Pat O'Shane: The Difference between Law and Justice

For almost three decades, Pat O’Shane, the fiery daughter of an Aboriginal mother and an Irish father, was one of Australia’s most famous magistrates. In 27 eventful years on the bench, she was frequently under attack, her name never far from the word ‘controversial’ for some of her decisions and public comments.In this interview with Julia Baird on Radio National, Pat, now retired, talks about everything from justice to her crippling depression and the immense stress the job caused her, as well as the pact she made with herself never to show her tears.From RN Swam Songs with Julia Baird