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It was awesome. Loved the day. But I haven't been on track yet. It rained about two-thirds of the day today. But we had a super clean GLTC race. And the temperature fell probably like 20 degrees. It was nice this morning. Yeah, it's a little chilly now. We actually had one dry time attack session, right? That's right. And pretty fast times. A lot of street-made cars. A couple track-made cars. No real unlimited cars, though. But pretty solid day overall. It's funny, though. It's not often that the GLTC field is faster than the time attack field. And I think the top seven or eight cars in GLTC were faster than the fastest time attack cars. Really, really? Yeah. So they're qualifying, what, like 128? 2728. 2728. This track.
If you add 100 horsepower to your Civic Type R, you don't go any faster, I don't think. So we got Austin and then Patrick from Valvoline here. What's up, buddy? What's going on, guys? This is like your favorite track, right? It's my favorite place. It's kind of magical. How far is it from? You're in Louisville, right? I'm in Lexington. How far is it from there? It's like five and a half hours, but I just drove. It was supposed to be a seven and a half hour drive. And I think it was eight, but my wife.
I think I was in the car for nine, and I think she's right. Is she mad about that? She's not. Are you ignoring her now? Is she, like, hoteling it? No, she's been taunting me with baby pics. So halfway through almost, it's like, all right, I'm here to Kentucky. Gotcha. I want to come here and hang out with you guys. It's a fun place. You drive tomorrow, right? Yeah. You've got Civic Step R, a few bolt-ons, but pretty stock. And you did a pretty fast lap here, right? Yeah, yeah. So, like, I ran a 31.9 here last year. That's pretty solid. Nice. On RS4s. That's really solid on those tires. Yeah. So I've got, like, baseline laps here, which I think is kind of funny. Right.
The difference between, so my S2000, which you've ran S2000 around before. So that on RS4s with Ohlins and like a test pipe. Right. Like a 32 dead. Okay. Stock exhaust besides the test pipe? Yeah, stock. It's a really tight sound restriction track if people haven't been here. I think it's the tightest in the country. 98? 98. Laguna is I think 101? Yeah, it depends on what day at Laguna. There are some sound free. The only sound free day here? July 4th. July 4th. Yep. America! So freedom is the only time that you can have freedom here.
So then I ran a SS1 Elite for a little while. Oh, that's right. And it on RS4s, on like a green track, would run like a 30. Yeah. Just kind of funny. I feel like I'm noticing a thing. Why is it always RS4s? And horsepower doesn't do anything here. Yeah. So I always run an RS4s because you can run like, I think we're like iron. Right. And I always drive. It's always for just driving my car. It's a 60 heat cycle tire. Yeah. Yeah. Like I was at Putnam and had my dad in the car and drove like a complete buffoon. And I was like, oh, the tires are clapped out. You know, like they're almost like to the wear bars. Went out to this big dirty skid and like third gear and got back in. I was like.
They look just like they looked before. I bought a set when I first built my GLTC car in 2019. I was like, I've got to get some tires. And I didn't want to buy some crappy, because I just needed to sort it out for a year. Turns out that's three years. It's still not done. But I bought a set of cast-off ones from Mealtab that they had done WRL with. And he was like, yeah, they're pretty much done. Turns out, got like 12 weekends out of them. You can't kill them. I used to win the RS3s, and they're amazing. Yeah, slightly slower, but they wear about the same. Yeah, they wear about the same. And then, like,
And then when I had the Camaro, it was like one of the only tires I could find for it. I never thought, I was like, this is the craziest thing running a 305 square setup. But, like, it was crazy because, like, they're still, they're actually not that bad on highway. Yeah. And they're, like, fairly quick. They're probably, like, two seconds off, I'd say, like, an RT660. Right. And you get that any given tread. But, yeah, the hottest 200 tread wear is, like, a little bit faster. Yeah, but Continental's got a new, like, Enduro tire. Yeah, it's supposed to be pretty quick, but it's expensive for what it is, really. Yeah, everything's expensive. It's not, I don't think it's, like, AL52 fast. Yeah. But Andy Hollis said, I think he tested it, and I think it was, like.
It's fine, but really predictable all the way through effort. Good job, Don. Thanks, man. Pretty solid day, though, on track. I think the only car that hit a wall was a spec fit. I didn't see that he actually touched. He did touch. He kept driving. Little kiss. The fender and the bumper.
Right now he's on track looking for the transponder. My brand new flashy boys. One of them's out on the racetrack. So hopefully he finds my transponder. Did you guys use a driver today? I didn't. I did not drive. Abe was learning how to do timing and scoring, too. That's complicated. Yeah, it's a process. Kevin built a whole lot of really intricate systems that make his job easier. But Kevin has skills and abilities as a computer programmer, but I do not. So historically, we've had two timing leads, my brother and Kevin. My brother's got a one-year-old now. He's like, man, I need a little time off. And Kevin's like, man, I really want to drive more. I'm like, oh, no. Oh, no.
And it's a hard job to sit in the tower all day. You don't get to do anything fun. You've got to come early and check everybody in. So basically, we're going to train up some people to be in the tower. Kevin can troubleshoot, set things up, and then get to drive, right? So we're going to train a bunch of timing people this year. And Abe's the first one to learn. And he can train people, too. I was hoping I could convince Abe to buy a Type R this weekend. I want Type R so bad. I don't think I've said this on the show, but I'll complain about it for a minute. You have talked about Type R's and your lust for them on the show before. That's endless. But my commute to work is 20-plus miles in the morning, 20-plus miles on the way back. It is highway miles. They're not fun.
A Type R has a 20-inch wheel that I'm sure will wear quickly. A tire that will wear quickly. Premium gas is expensive. Brake pads are expensive. And the drive itself is not particularly rewarding. Why would you just burn that car down on the highway? What's your commute like? If I worked from home, it would be different. But I just don't want to burn a car down driving to work. That's why you get the fit and get a Type R. He's got the best fit, too. It's basically a spec fit. It will absolutely not. On the interstate, at that speed, it'll do about 29.
Really? Yeah, which means that a Civic Si is more fuel efficient. No, it's not. It is. We're making numbers up. The new 1.5 Si's are more fuel efficient. But with three dudes ripping, I don't think so. Check this out, though. It's the same basic engine except for a turbo.
A little practicality with, well, all the practicality with the TypeR. So, on the way here, in the West Virginia mountains, in Virginia, and North Carolina, and South Carolina, that I'll drive through to get here. Yeah. It got 32 miles a gallon. Dang! On 200 Trevlar tires. Dang! On the way to, uh, on the way to Mid-Ohio, it got 35. I mean, that's pretty good. Awesome, impressive. And, and, and, radar sensing crews. I almost don't believe you. Amazing. Oh, we can go, I'll go show you. That's incredible, actually. Direct rejection cars are awesome. Yeah, until they need service. Yeah, until they get, you know, take them apart. There's, like, a goop everywhere. What, is that walnut blasting? What are we going to do? Yeah, well, so we have, we have a solution port to you at work. Really? Yeah, so you run, like, a fuel line cleaner. Okay.
then you do like an intake and it's crazy. Like, uh, I was doing a demo once when I worked on the sales side and we had this guy's like 150,000 mile, uh, it was like the finance guy. He's like, man, this thing has been running rough for, you know, 25,000 miles. And he's like, it's probably the problem you guys have been talking about. So we like scoped the thing and it is like, it's caked up. It's stalactites. So we're like doing this. They're like, you know, we'll see how it goes. We run like, we've done two tests on it and we heard this like,
Oh, no. And it was like, oh, God, we screwed something up. It ate the goop. The truck was at that limit. It was like a valve unsticking. Well, it was. We looked, and there was a massive piece of carbon that fell off and went through it. But the guy called us next week. He's like, man, this thing runs like a top. That's awesome. Yeah, it was great. Do you guys sell that yet? Yeah, it's on our professional series. An additive for fuel? Yeah. So it's all on our installer side. You can get it at our...
install changes or someone that carries this. Interesting. I didn't know that there was stuff like that. Yeah, we got a really strong like that. I don't deal in the new car world. Like, if it's in the 90s, like, eh, it might almost be too new for me. Yeah. Like, it's got two airbags. That's one too many for Apple. I do have a 2009 fit, and, man, it feels real fancy. So you like to on the car and go call Kenny Wong and get some hot food? That's right. Street driving a car with a 7. It's true. It's true. I love those. We were just talking about, so, like, we've got a 76 model, a 4-minute Ford. Right. It's, like, basically the tractor. That's an old one, too. It's an old one. Pinto motor. Oh, that thing, you fired up, it sounds like a tractor. Didn't they start racing those in, like, the mid-60s?
You can see where it's been wrecked. Yeah. Because it looks like they just, like, we're going to hacks all this off. That was back when, like, it was acceptable. Be like, I've got to fix that tube. Cut said tube. Butt weld. Grind it down. Yeah, exactly. But it was really fun. So it's like, I've learned, like, car control with. And, you know, it's not worth anything. It's, like, in a weird year where it doesn't, like, fit in a series. Okay. And also, when you're in it, you're like, this would be terrifying. Even if you were in a wheel-to-wheel series of just those, it's scary. Like, decapitation. Right. Could be. So I ran an NCM once. Yeah. Because Matt was holding all those, like, cool, you know, like.
You know, come out here. It's like 75 bucks. You're going to have to trust. And I was like, sweet. No one to hit me. I am my worst enemy out here. So when I was like old Hoosiers, it was like 30 degrees, like freezing.
And I'm like, that would be so hard. Is it Formula Ford where they're allowed to run the fit motors now? Yes. Yeah, because the Ford motors are so hard to find. They're Formula F now, right? Yeah, that would be sweet. I'll look at that, but the price was still great. The oldest, the ancient one is what, Speck? Formula V? The Volkswagens. Yeah, the Volkswagens ones. Yeah, they're real basic. They don't even have springs. It's just a portion of stuff. Eat that mic, eat that mic. Get that mic up. So you'll have this. So this is Ride for Reality with Danger. Coming over to Deception, you have the gator strips at NCM. So I'm like warming up this car that has...
Terrible tires all stuff like it's free finally, you know, I think the date codes are in the tires. Oh, they were so I ran them for like three years It's an old Hoosier and it like they weren't kept in like a it was kept in a barn Oh, yeah, so I go over the session. It's like a little like four wheel like nice skid which you feel like you're completely broadside But you're like yeah, three degrees of angle. Yeah, and I go over the gator strips and it was like it was a moment of bliss and monumental pain because I could feel the gator chips coming through. I was like, oh yeah. It hurt, but I was like... You got some 16-gauge aluminum right between you and them cojones. I fell from my feet like a wave. Rippling up. Trimmers! Trimmers! You know, in cheap hotel, you pay extra for the massaging action. It's free on a Formula 4. It's true. Well, I mean...
It seems like they still work, so you've got a family man now. I was going to say anything. I mean, we don't get into details how they work. But then I blew the head gas in that day and still fix it. It's been like seven years. I've got a customer who's got one, and the money you can pour into an old 2.3 Pantone or whatever they are, 1.9. I was at runoff in 2012, and Bill Luxon's dad was racing, and that year they had like 100 Formula Fords. It was like an anniversary for Formula Ford. No, it was Road America. Oh, yeah. I was at that one, too. There was one guy that was running Formula Ford that literally, he brought two spare motors, went through both of them, started borrowing motors, and was running through those motors. Went through like four Formula Ford motors.
At run-offs in 2012. And I don't even know how expensive those motors are. I mean, if you look in the Pegasus catalog, everything's there. But it's just built motor stuff. And then you get the machine work, which costs the same as the parts. And then, you know, it's still a stupid car. That probably went through like 20 grand worth of motor. But it was really cool watching that race. I think there were literally almost 100 of them. Yeah, they were real busy. So watching them for the race start was really, really cool. The limit in SEC areas is 25 cars a mile.
And like, what is that at Road America? 100 cars. 100 cars, yeah. They're so fun. They're so forgiving until they're not. It's like an S2000. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I got it, I got it, I do, I got it. You feel like a god until you feel like a dummy. Yeah.
How long have you been at Valvoline? It's been six years. How did you start there? I started in sales. I worked with distributors. I covered North Carolina and Virginia. Then I was given the heavy-duty business to grow in Florida. That's how I started out and then came into this role. I cover influencers and sponsorships. It's been great. It's fun. It's been cool to have some influence on the things we're involved with. You get to drive a little bit sometimes? You get to drive a little bit sometimes. I feel like I'm an inside man in the corporate world. It's fun to have basically your point of contact at a partner who's like, man.
What time is my session? That's the coolest thing, dude. I always forget that you're not only a sponsor, but you're one of our drivers. We've even had to yell at you. It's great, dude. I freaking love having you at the race. But it's fun to have your regular driver dude. You're not faking it. To me, that's the coolest part. You're here to do the thing.
being in the corporate role and being the, you know, I'm the ambassador. I can do whatever. He's your race. That's the coolest part. I love it. I just need to do some things in my car to make it more competitive. That's true. I don't think it's going to look really nice. I was saying earlier, 100 horsepower probably wouldn't change it much. Maybe half a second. Today, I've been dealing with an awful lot of chatter on the internet about how the McLaren 600LT is ruining street mod. Oh, is that all over the internet? Oh, yeah. That's why I left Facebook. I was like, well, not really. A lot of street mod guys are pretty quick. I drove a 570 around here. Right. So, I've been listening to a lot of Bert Kreischer, so story time.
Dude, Burt's the best. Yeah, I heard him on Smoking Tire. Actually terrible. Two Bears Racing, yeah. I was like, I don't know, maybe it might not be kosher. I was talking with Matt Farah. Don't you mean it might not be Chrysher? Well, I don't know. Yes, yes. Oh, so bad. So bad.
Here's the link. If you want to tell Tom about our GLTC series and we have a path for him to get his license. It seems like they want to go endurance racing. Oh, it'd be so funny. I love the format, too. They were saying they might do a private show. Yeah. Well, the best was like... He bought a car. I don't know what it is yet. Farrah was naming off everything that he needed. And then Brent's like, oh, and what about the costumes? The costumes? I can get you whatever you want. It's the freaking best. It's going to be great. Oh, it's amazing. You can get a race suit. That's kind of anything. We got Nick Steneford wearing a tuxedo. It's a tuxedo suit. It's so cool. You can get some cool racing. Former buddies here to drive. Yeah. Very cool.
This was back when the S2000 was coming here every weekend. There's this guy wearing George's in a hipster white t-shirt that you look at him and you're like, that's probably a $100 white t-shirt. Is that Mike Cohn? But this dude, he didn't have a helmet. He looked lost. He had his girlfriend here with him. And he's like, yeah, whatever. And I was like, you do? I was like, yeah. I'm an instructor. You want to go out and see the track? He's like, yeah. So we go out in the S2000. He was giggling like a little girl. He's like, a blast. We put the top down. We were sliding in turn seven. He's loving it. He's like, dude, this is so sweet. He's like, I've never done this. He's like, would you mind taking me out of my car? I was like, yeah, dude. He's probably got like a Corvette or like an M3 or a Miata. And we go in and he's like.
That's my car over there. It's like right when the 570 came out. It was a riot. The only thing is, they're like so under-tired though. Especially in the front. They love the industry here. The 600LT is... 245 in the front, 285 in the back. It's a street-mod car tire-wise, which is crazy. 285 for a rear-wheel drive is a limit street-mod. But I don't think... I think it'd be slower than the Camaro I had. I think here, it's just got this mechanical grip. But it was fun. It was like... Once you got it going, it's a land missile. I was like, this thing is... It's got way more than 570 horsepower. Yeah, they usually dyno out at 600-something. Dang.
He was like, man, he's like, this is sweet. He's like, but I feel like, I feel like it's being hard on my car. And I was like, no, it's fine. And about that time, he had a big dip over there before the big deal. All the lights came out? No. Well, yeah, that too. He's like, yeah, I got the carbon fiber package. You just, you can feel and hear. It's fine. That low guy. Don't worry about that low guy. Oh, that hurts my soul. All that British hand-laid carbon fiber. So I get in the car and I'm like trying to set it up and I'm like, you know, track mode, all these things.
And I was like, okay, if I move your seat. And he's like, if you can figure out how to move it. And I was like, okay. And I can't figure out. It was an early one. You got to get the McLaren app. Yeah. Well, no, what's that done? Scan the QR code. No, no, they put the, it has the same seats on both sides. Right. So, like, there's not a driver and a passenger seat, like, with the controls. Oh, no. So, right-hand drive, most of them. You got to jam your hand in between the consoles? Yes, it was here. I was like, this is, he's like, right? He's like, this is the dumbest thing ever.
It's like an Infiniti G35. Are they like that, too? I think so. We're only building one seat. You know, the house that you live in costs as much as this car, but we're only building one seat. You know, we've got limitations. Oh, man. That's awesome. I was talking to Jason, who owns the LT. Shout out to Jason. He's a listener. He did indicate that he, too, buys the extended warranty. Does he really? And it's an annual contract that McLaren can cancel at any time. They can cancel it? Yes. And you pay per year, and it may be the first year. Do you know what year his car is? No, I don't.
The first year, let's say, is maybe $3,500. The second year is $4,000. The fifth year. And it goes up to, like, 14 years. Yeah, you talk to Andy Hollis. That's what he's doing, too. Exactly. And he is approaching, I think, Andy Hollis' level of expense. Oh, really? Yeah. This is a thing. $115,000 in claim. Oh, my God. Andy holds, I think, the record in the U.S., right? Yeah. And he was saying that the car jumped time at Gingerman. Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine? I know someone else's that did that, actually. Man, this is not a good McLaren show. Jason, you got to tell that thing, dude. Give a little shout out to the best exhaust. They sound really good. And they go, it's like.
I want to have him on the show. I hope he's around maybe. Yeah, it seems like a really good dude. He's been at a couple events. He had a BMW. I forget what event. And I think he just bought a Shelby.
An Omni Shelby GLHS. Oh, nice. There was a full caged one that was for sale for a while. It was like an SCCA ITE car, some regional and like turbo four-cylinder. I think he just bought that with the hopes of somebody running it in GLTC. Oh, that'd be so cool. Wouldn't that be the sickest GLTC? Maybe I'm spilling some beans he doesn't want to spill, but hey, that's what happens here. I shouldn't have showed me, but yeah, that's like maybe his plan. Man. But yeah, that would be a weird... That'd be so sweet. Should I take the McLaren, the BMW, or the 86 Shelby? The Dodge Omni. Oh, speaking of weird things in racing.
This is awesome. I don't know if y'all saw the news this week. Kendrick Motorsports? Yeah. Cupcar in Le Mans? Yeah. We had a national sales meeting this week, and I got a call from Pat Perkins there. He's one of the head dudes. And I was like, oh, this must be important. That's so cool. And so I ran out, and he told me. Wait, hold on. I didn't hear the news. What's the story? They're running a cup car at Le Mans. A NASCAR cup car. Not like...
Like the new generation NASCAR. They're going to run a lot of sequential NASCAR. Neat. Yeah. As exhibition or does it fall into a classic? I think it'll be an exhibition from reading the article, yeah. That's so cool. And I picked up Kyle Larson from the airport because he came in for it. Man, that is a hard flex. Were you in the Type R? I was not. Oh. Riddle car. Yeah, no. So we had to go with a riddle car and pick him up. But I was asking him because I was like, dude.
So me and my buddy Kyle, we're talking about Le Mans next year. But he was funny. He was like, yeah, Mr. Rage called me, but he's like, I'd like to. Like, he even tweeted about it. He's like, I need a driver, but he's like, man, if Chase and I could go, how rad would that be? It's like, him and I were talking. What if it's like, you chase like Colton Hurta and like.
I was like, I'm just talking hypotheticals, but that would be like the general team. That would be cool, man. I think I should go. There's definitely a business purpose. It seems like an expensive thing. You know what? We could work on that. What if we gave you a thousand stickers and just had you fucking slap them everywhere? It's like Caswell did for five years. I'm the sponsorship guy. I love stickers. Yeah, that would be cool. Yeah, it'd be sweet. It's only one of them, though, right? It's only one.
But I did see, it was kind of funny. I saw Denny Hamlin had tweeted, he's like, this is interesting. So I'm like, now it's Toyota going to go? Yeah, how many cars want to go? Wouldn't that be so cool if there's like 20 NASCAR companies? Yeah, what if there was just a NASCAR class? Europe would love it. Like, they think it's rad. What if they're like faster than GT3? I know, right? It wouldn't be that slow. They're big beasts, but they're not slow. Well, the new ones are ridiculous. Yeah, it's basically, it's like a Australian supercar. Yeah. The transaxle is like a beefed up Indy car. Right, right. They're awesome. You went to that, so that's one thing I wanted to ask you about. You were at the one in LA. Yeah. What was that like when they paved an oval? It looked kind of like, I don't know, it looked all right. It looked
Yeah, exactly. So Pharaoh was with us. So him and Zach came. And I was like, hey guys, I picked this race or whatever because it was so amazing, something unique. You're not going to see that every year. It's weird. This is something really cool. It's either going to be amazing or just perhaps I don't know what to expect. We had a freaking blast. I think the in-person made them better than the broadcast. Really? Yeah. Cars look slow on TV. Eric Meadows, who was a GLTC driver, he was running the dyno. He brought the dyno down. He was out there too. Yeah, he went out. It was crazy because...
Qualifying was, like, fun to watch. Right. Because, like, there's new cars. Like, the guys have limited testing. And I've got, like, a whole new appreciation for, like, short track racing. I've been, like, talking to the guys. And, like, these cars are all over the place. They're handfuls. How banked was it? That's the thing. It needed some banking. It was only, like, three or four years. It wasn't much. Yeah. But they were, like, diving in the corner. And so the cars were dancing. And, like, it looked like a lot of cars overheated. Okay. Because they couldn't get any air. Yeah, yeah. And so I was, like, if you're in the lead, like, so Joey, like, dominated. I was, like, yeah, clean air. Yeah, so. Nose to tail ain't gonna work. No. But the format was fun. It was, like, it was, like, you know, classic
That's so weird. Walking in was just great. You know when you go to a sporting event or a race, you walk in, it's just like, I don't know, I guess the right fancy word would be like the ambiance. So it had cool vibes. Yeah, the cars are street parked. Oh, really? That's dope. And it was the first time I'd seen the test car with all the cool crap on it. But this is the first time I'd seen our car and its livery and everything else. And I was like, dang, look at those honches. They really have good lines going on. Yeah, they really do. It's the prettiest cup car I've ever seen. I can't wait until maybe like 10, 15 years from now when those chassis are real cheap.
Austin and I were talking for like half an hour earlier and like this came up and I was like, oh man, the sequentials are going to make them too expensive. You just put a T56 in it, like LS swap it, you're good. I want a NASCAR truck. Oh, that'd be sweet. We know a couple people that have bought them. Yeah, you can get like an old Craftsman series or whatever. Five grand for the roller. $3,200 with the trans. You can do like the most redneck thing. They're like, oh, a 5.3 in that thing, a hot cam, buy 500 horsepower. So our buddy Cody and Eric Streeter, who's been on the show, they were building one with a 6.7 Cummins and a big auto-building for Pike's Peak. It just became too much. The stuff you can do with this, it's so cool. The chassis is amazing. You just do it.
whatever you want. It's tubes. It's heavy-duty, big tubes. So, like, talking to – gosh, I hate the name drop, but, like, Parker Clickerman. Oh, no big deal. He's a man of the people, but he's, like, talking to him about – because he's raced everything, like, through the Penske program, did, like, open-wheel stuff, and then he's been on some, like, rad shows with, like, Zach and stuff, and he's, like, they're just so fun. Yeah. He's, like, they're just – you're, like – and, like, talking to the different drivers, too, like, co-drivers, it's funny. They all want to drive, like, truck cars. Right. Or trucks, because they're, like – they're on the limit. They're raw. Right.
There's probably something to be said about sitting at Redline for the majority of a few hours. It's got to be gnarly, dude. And you're pretty much putting it into a skid up to a wall. Or taking the Larson Line on the wall. To me, that's the coolest thing about Indy is those cars are way more raw than F1 cars almost. F1 cars are fast and crazy. But Indy cars, it seems like they want to kill you. And that's cool about NASCAR, too. I love that that's sort of like an American don't give an F ethos.
It's only fun if it's almost killing you. Run it. They're just physical. The cars are just hot on the inside. I love when they have the heart rate monitor there. And some of the guys are ice cold. Some guys are 180 beats. It's pretty cool. The new cup cars have me interested in NASCAR again. I haven't really watched a lot because the last eight years I've been busy building this. And all of a sudden I'm like, man, that is kind of rad. I love a lot of things about it. I actually had this thought because this week I was presenting Steph for...
What we did, so everyone got super hyped on the Good Life Midwest video. Hey, cool. People came up to me after and were like, I'm so stoked. I don't know what you just showed me, but I love it. Which video did you show them? It had the crazy bumping music. It was a 60-second video. Oh, I know which one. They were like, the drift car, I got to get a ride in this thing. And then some people were like, I just want to see it. I don't want to ride it. But yeah, I think we should do, maybe get some Good Life peeps to a race. Yeah. And go to sit in the box. So I've never been to a NASCAR race. What? We can fix this.
It's a good thing. Now I know you didn't grow up in the South. I've been to like Country Short Track, but I've never been to NASCAR. Well, you know a guy. I do know a guy a little bit. I went to Bristol for the first time last year. On dirt? Not on dirt. Not on dirt? A lot of the guys, they said the dirt was like a novelty. It was fine until it rained. It just became snappy.
wild. One of the guys, Jeff Andrews there, was like, hey, you've got to go to the end of the track and just stand there. And watch the cars coming at you. Because you see they're on the roof pretty much. And you get sucked in. It's wild. At first, my dad and I were there. We went up and sat in the stands and had a hamburger and we were watching from there. And you could feel getting sucked into the track. And I just thought, I don't know if you guys listen to Dale Jr.'s podcast. He did a great job, too. He's amazing. I've heard a bunch. My dad is addicted to the show. He's the one person I would definitely fanboy on.
But my dad is always like, you know this guy? And he sends me a Dale Jr. download. I'm like, no, I don't know that guy. That's got to be a good one. I saw that the other day. He had some old guy on there, and they're like, the thing is, you get one of these tracks, it starts raining, you get the cars out there, creates a little board to see action, and it won't rain in that spot. I mean, that might be real. That rumor spread like wildfire. I'll tell you what, you get a race going here, it won't rain. Everyone's watching the same show.
That's great. I mean, I feel like NASCAR has been doing a lot lately to kind of change what they've been doing. I don't know if I love some of it, but it's cool to see them, like, taking big jumps. Yeah. I mean, you're seeing more road courses, you know, the Bristol dirt things, always real big. Obviously, the Coliseum was a real big thing. It's so interesting. I can't wait for Sonoma, like the Roval. Yeah. Especially with the new cars. I think it's going to be a lot more interesting than the old cars. Are they going to run the short configuration of Sonoma again? I think so, yeah. Or Watkins Glen also, you know? Watkins Glen. That's a fun track. Is Charlotte going to be a Roval? Yeah. So we've got St. Louis is like the world.
Speed Technology Center. Yeah, Gateway. Gateway. So we got that one, and then we got... They're doing a cup car race there? Yeah. Good for them. Good for Gateway. That race has kind of been floundering for a decade. Yeah. That's awesome. They got some funding there, right? Kind of like Nashville. Nashville was cool to watch. Yeah, FD also went to Gateway. But yeah, good to see that track coming back. Yeah, the FD was funny because we sponsored the Indy race there, and so our banners were still up while FD was doing the thing. Nice. Free logos. Yeah, I love it. I love it.
The FD stream is fun to watch. Like, all of a sudden, I'm, like, super into watching FD. Because, like, I know a bunch of the drivers and, like, buddies with Jared. You know, like, text Jared. And then, like. Jared randomly popped in our Good Life meeting the other day. Exactly. I was, like, just sitting there chatting to Jared. I'm, like, oh, hey, Jared. He's, like, hey, you guys having a meeting? We're, like, yep, you're in, too. Whenever Jared's in Chicago, he's, like, it's just a blue line ride away. Yeah, he pops in. Crack a beer. Hang out for 20 minutes. All right, gotta go. Yeah, he's, like, chilling there. Like, we were all talking and stuff. The partnership team invites me to about a third of those meetings. I'm always bummed. They're, like, man, it was a super good meeting. Why don't you put me on
They forget to invite me to Patrick's meetings. I know. I'm busy with other stuff. I rode in Chris's FD car at Colorado. Holy crap. In the Z. Yeah. So in the drift taxi, when we watched it, it was in the front, the back. Did you ride in the Ultimaniac drift taxi or the old one? The old one's even gnarly, too. That one's fun. It sounds like a NASCAR. Yeah, it does. With a VK, Nissan V8 of it. So what happened was, something happened with the Ultimaniac. We were going to go out at night, and he was like, let's take the Z out. So we get in it, and we're like, roll up to the line.
And he's like, just so you know, we're at full tilt. He's like, those guys derated their car. We're testing some stuff. He was at like 1,200 wheels. Full FD spec. One run. Tires go. This is like classic FD guy. He's like, it's got too much grip. And I'm like, what does that even mean? And he lets them gap in. It was like a freaking rocket ship. So fast. And then we're like riding the wall. And people were like hands over getting hit in the face with like tire charge 11 life. And I think we hit like a guy three or four times.
People put their hands out. It was chaos. It physically hurt. That's what it's like at Pike's Peak, right? People are right there. Well, at Pike's Peak, the race, you mean? Like PPIR. That's what we saw. PPIR last year was absolutely bad. Who was attempting to hit you as a flagger?
Chris. Forsberg, yeah. That was two years ago. So that was back when we ran a different configuration. And so there was one blind left-hand bend, and people were spinning after that. It was like, you know, right before you get onto the oval again. And so I was the only flagger, and I was talking to Swan and Cone. And so if there was somebody that spun to my left, I had two people over there that would wave their hands, and I would throw the yellow so they knew that somebody had spun. And it happened, you know, ten times over the weekend. And there was a bunch of times where Turk and Forsberg just stared at me and then would, like, try to get me with a wing. I swear they did it over and over and, like, looked at me the whole time.
and like turn their heads. I'm like, you're trying to spray me with shit and hit me. You should probably wear safety goggles when you do that because the amount of like asphalt. Have you seen, so they got those barricades. It's like two feet wide, three feet high and they've got like cutouts for forklifts to lift them and move them and at the end of the weekend or on Sunday afternoon you walk around and those cutouts for the forks, it's a 12 foot spray of black that comes out in a fan shape through the fork cutouts and it just sprays. It's so disgusting. I don't know what they do with the black. Like all the rubber. It's everywhere. I like to call them track turds. But with drift cars, it's like track dust and it's like It's a new website. trackturds.com Yeah, trackturds.com
People walk around with like tire shards and be so proud of them. What if you start collecting them? It's like a geologist, right? Like you're collecting tractors. This one's from Road Atlanta. This is a GT radial for PPIR. Chris Forsberg himself right here said that this tractor hit me in the eye. Delicious. Goes down great, put some butter on. You've driven there, right? It's pretty fun. I almost rolled a gator there last year. Was it on the dip? Yes. It was the dip right afterwards and I cut it a little bit and the gator came up on it. It felt like it got on two wheels. It was the fast gator, the one that Ben Green unrestricted.
is violent. It's violent in like a heavy street mod build or everything up. It's violent. It's also violent in a slam GLTC card. It's insane. Did you see what I did?
The in-car of me and Ben's car? No, no. Oh, yeah, watch that video. I did watch that video. You drove Dustin Williams' car, don't you? Dustin's car. The SC1000 was great. Actually, it's funny. I owned an SC1000 for a long time, never driven one with Aero, and I was like, this is so easy. That's a cool build, dude. Shh, don't tell anybody. Sorry, I'm going to say they're really hard with Aero. So we went out, had fun, and then Ben, Thornton came over, and he was like, I've got to find two tents. I'm in second. Will you take my car out? So I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Partner, family, you're coming through. Well, you know, Ben Lin's like, he's going around the paddock like, do you want Patrick to drive your car? Do you want Patrick to drive your car? So we go out.
And they're like, it's probably somewhere in the middle. It's just two tenths. So we go out. I found like five miles an hour on the banking. Really? What did you do different? Stayed flat? Stayed flat. Ben's car should have been able to do that. And so we were looking at it. And I was like, yeah, but I lifted like right here. And they're like, no, no, you didn't. They're looking at the trace line in the video. He's like, holy crap. I did like a full lot.
Like a 180 degree? On the dip? Yeah. So the dip for people listening who haven't been there. So there's a tunnel to get into the paddock. Yeah. It's an interior. It's an ex-IndyCar oval. It has an interior road. It's like a mini Daytona. And the dip is directly over the tunnel because of settling in the 90s. And it's like a bunk. And it ain't that bad. It's not that bad. But it's just, and it's basically. Is it across the whole track? The whole thing. Yeah. So like no matter what line you take, you're going to hit it. Yeah. At the bottom, it's a little better. At the top, it's a little better. But it's fastest in the middle where it's the worst. Yes. And so when I went through, I'm like.
I watched way too much Stifted Dale. I've been blackwagged. Now that I have a program, it's not an issue, but it's like, we're in a doubt, you know, flat out. And so I'm going out through the amount of logic. It's like...
If you lift here, things can get bad. You're going to be in it, and those front wheels will pull you. It happened so fast, I didn't really think much of it. And then I saw the video, and I was like, whoops. So you had literally a bunch of counter-steer. He thought it was awesome, and then I looked at it, and I was like, maybe you should have nodded back a little. You didn't even realize? I didn't even realize. I was like, yeah, I got a little loose there. That's so funny when self-preservation takes over, and you're like, man, it felt like a crazy lap. And then you look at it, and you're like, what did I do? That's so cool.
We were talking about earlier, when I had the 1LE, I was like, it's actually just like this. A little damp. A little damp, yeah. Cold. Turn 4 is so fun, especially when no one's looking. And that car is the easiest thing to slide in the world. So, go around through there and do this big, nasty slide. And it's like, you know when you're like, I'm going to get in trouble. I hope they don't see it.
Oh, they saw it. Halfway through, I could see them pointing. See somebody key in a radio? I'm a child. And I got done, and you can hear me in the video, sorry, sorry, and then go to second gear and then do it again. I totally forgot. I'm like, I'm a goldfish. It's got to be such a good drift track on 4th of July. It's got to be so good. Did you ever drive here before they put all the track out paving in? I brought my Focus here, and it didn't have all the track outs. Austin was here when it was gravel and one trailer. Yeah, there was a temporary trailer here for the office. Really? Yeah.
Back a long time ago. 2010, 2011? 12, I think 12, 12, 13. Yep. The place is amazing, though. It's unreal. It's like maybe the nicest country club track in the country. This is my favorite track. Although, I mean, I haven't been to Monticello or Thermal. Those are gorgeous, I guess. This is my favorite track that I've driven in the country. And then Groton is right below it. Although, I haven't been to Groton since 2011, so I have no idea the condition of Groton. It's probably pretty bad. A lot of gaps into the teeth there. A lot of big teeth gaps.
The track to drive to race, I love racing in Ohio. But this place is maybe the most fun day I've had. Maybe right there with Blackhawk. Blackhawk has such good old school vibes. Blackhawk's just like, I love Blackhawk, don't get me wrong. It's basic. It's marginally on the sketchy side of my head. Have you ever done a track walk at Blackhawk? Yeah. I did one with Gary Cummings. Curves are like 90 degrees. And he kept walking. He's like a 65-year-old monster dude, big old guy. And he's like...
What the fuck are they doing here, man? Like, that right there. Oh, my gosh. Have you guys ever seen the Grand Prix of America in Savannah? Oh, yeah. I've done it. How is that? Jayzilla does it. Yeah, Jayzilla was doing stuff there. Hutchinson Island. Yes, that's what it is. That's where I got to know all those guys. I showed up. I think I just moved to Charlotte. We'd gone here, ran with Jayzilla, and kind of met the guys. There, we were forced to all go out and grab beers together. It was really fun, but it was so sketchy.
Half the track is, like, an old, worn-out road. Yeah, it's like a public road around a golf course. At that point, you go through, like, two, three-way stops. I have a picture. I mean, dumb things I did with the SDW. Run top-down at Atlanta. Run top-down at Hutchinson, and there's a picture where you can see that my front left wheel, the inside wheel, is off the ground. I'm trying to, like, on turn it. It's so, so, so. You go from, like, blacktop to concrete to blacktop. And you have to take, like, don't you have to take a barge to it?
No, you can drive across the bridge. But it's wild. There's tons of oscillations. And then there's a part where you're going through the golf course. And it's so bumpy on one side. You track all the way left just to keep the car. That place was built for an IRL race in 1997. And that was it. Maybe it was cart. We talked to Jay Zillow about that years ago, like in 2017. He was here today, James. We were talking about maybe doing something next year. We've been trying to get a date that works together. We're only here this weekend because he wasn't doing Saturday. So we were able to get this weekend instead of...
Another weekend. We had a whole weekend and another weekend. And that didn't work out. We were going to kill Audubon. I think it was Audubon. One of them. But, yeah, I would love to do, like, a collab with them. But I don't know about that place. That place sketches me a little bit. When we walked in, it was funny. Like, we walked in, like, wow, this is sketchy. Then we went and drove it. It's even sketchy. Is it fun? Oh, it's awesome. I mean, it was like a... Fun means a lot. It looked like a target. Yeah. It just feels like you're ripping around on roads. On roads. Yeah. The GT3s or whatever. Yeah. That's what it felt like. The cars moved around a ton. But, like, when we walked in, it was like...
It's like, that barrier is backwards. There's shards coming out of it. And then there's a bowl, kind of like a banked bowl. And you're like, oh crap, that's a barrier in the middle of the track. It's like, I've got to track out for that. So that place, you can actually just go and drive around that place normally. Sort of like Belle Isle used to be. Belle Isle was like that. And then they just put concrete barriers so you can't run actual laps. We had a car just randomly parked on the track at one point. So we're driving along and no one caught it. And we're like, oh, there's a Hyundai on turn seven.
The Belle Isle 20 years ago, there was a VW club in Michigan that we would do. Mive? Yeah, Mive. We would do a meet there every year. And I was the only Honda guy. But it was Belle Isle. It was cool. And it was before they, like, fixed it. And it was, like, half the track was there. And you could, like, bomb the gators and stuff. And there's, like, a family having a barbecue on the inside. We got, like, three Jettas and a Civic, like, two wheels up in the air. It's great, dude. Oh, man. Yeah, that was pretty sketchy. Pretty similar sketchy, probably. Yeah. That's the sketchiest place ever. It was, like, an Econoline van, like, three kids with a football and a baseball.
It's like racing around like one of the parks down at like Lakeshore in Chicago. Literally exactly like that. Except for you can't get tickets in Chicago. We've tried, but you can probably get them in the truck. The sketchiest thing I've ever done was I somehow got a weasel by way, and this is like where I live in Charlotte, into doing Greg Mitchell's dirt race at his ranch. Oh, yeah. I've seen videos from that. The triple B 100. 100 miles? It's 100 laps. In his backyard. It's like a 12-second lap. That's awesome. It's amazing. You put it in like two.
On purpose. On purpose. Like a kidney shape almost? Yeah. But the best was there was just like redneck guy there did the National Land. It was beautiful.
Complete with a flyby. Nice. A little ultralight that was landing. An X and L flyby? Oh, Jim's going to be landing at 5 p.m. Let's start. You're talking about the drones flying between the cars and that was not dangerous? He was doing that in an ultralight. His legs are dangling? He's literally diving, and it's like me. Not the time car. The time car. Like sideways. And this guy's like diving. There's four of us there. At Greg Biffle's house. Yeah. And I thought he was dirt flying. I was like, man, there's like some red dirt getting flown across the windshield. And I look back, and I was like, it's the freaking plane. No, that's just prop wash. There was a guy. He was like, man, I'll take you what? He loses his engine. He's going to kill somebody. And dude, he was right. Guy's got a straw coming out of his mouth. Isn't that same?
conversation this guy's like he did the national anthem he's out there he's like this your first time running here just be 100 and i was like yep sure is he's like let me give you a little tip now on the back side you got a hill over here and he was right like it was all flat and then like there's like a viewing area that was just a mound of dirt and he's like if you overshoot this turn you just pin it You got to hit the hill. You might hit that stuff over there and just kick you right back out on track There's gonna be a point where you're not gonna be able to stop either the brakes won't work or the throttle spin because there's so much dirt He was so right. I was like it won't turn it won't stop and it's accelerating When that dude's saying that to you, you're probably like what are you talking about? And then in that moment, you're like I get it now It was amazing. I was like, we were just rubbing a little bit. Hand them drift. Don't you just mean dirt racing? We were just dirt racing. And the best was we did it. And I was like, oh, my God. I just went door to door with Biffle. That's so cool. And we didn't wreck each other. I was like, this is like.
My dad's going to be so proud of me. What a little tear coming out of your eye. He wheels up next to me, and we have this moment, and you can see us reaching out of the car to each other, and the sun is setting between us. You live a magical life. What if we do a Formula D all-star event, and that's what it was? Dude, that'd be really cool. That'd be really cool. Well, I think we did a pretty good podcast here. What do you guys think? That was pretty fun. Pull up the picture. I've got to see this picture. Hey, if you have that picture, I'll put it on track to you. Yeah, let's do it. That's freaking cool. What's the Valvoline plug? Everybody knows what Valvoline is. Hey, wait, wait, wait. Don't go to the website. You've got to go to Instagram. You've got to go to one Valvoline. That costs extra. Well, no.
So there's a few oils that I've liked. I like Schaefer's. It's pretty good. It's a weird synthetic. They got a cool logo. They do have a cool logo. Got a good shirt. They gave me a shirt to PR. But now that it's at AutoZone, it's AutoZone, right? It's not as cool. It's not as cool now, right? They all sound the same. Is that the parts? No.
Being able to not like I couldn't find VR one forever. That's the other oil that we used like it doesn't break down with heat like I got all the PSI when the oil is 270 degrees. It's such freaking good oil. I love VR one It's so good. Yeah, and now you can buy it apart stores. Yeah, like unbelievable distribution So yeah, I get it everywhere and it's it's funny cuz like everyone thinks our company's like massive like I crack up when some people be like gotta make the suits happy I'm like our CEO drives an e46 and three really that's awesome
in our high mileage oil was because his Integra was leaking. And he's like, can we figure out how to stop this? No way. So this thing's got $250,000. The CEO drove an Integra that leaked? Yes, with like 200,000 miles and it was leaking. That's my favorite story I've heard out of all these amazing people. We need that guy on the show. Yeah, Sam's great. So he loves racing. That's awesome. He knows everybody's name in the building. When we hire somebody new, he's like, how many employees are probably?
That's a hard question. I don't know, actually. And not including, like, the service stations. Just, like, the corporate. A couple hundred of us. Okay. So, yeah, you think Veveline's got 4,000 employees and, like, a tower. Well, I thought about it this week because it's, like, kind of surreal. It's, like, you know, you wonder, like, how this stuff comes to life or you see an ad and you're like, you know, who did that? And it's, like, I was looking at a room this week and there's, like, 60 of us. Yeah. And, like, you know. It's just people building the brand forever. Forever. And then, like, Dr. Berhalik was in my group who's an amazing guy. Like, he lives and breathes, like, butter oil. Right. And, like.
It's crazy. People are like, is it good stuff? I know the guy who makes it. He's like, it's a pretty small guy. Yeah, yeah. I can 100% vouch for VR1. 100%. And before Valvoline was anything to do with grid life, it was, man, Schaefer's a pain in the butt to get with. My brother saw some demonstration in the airplane world that Schaefer's a lot of airplane guys do. And it doesn't break down very well, but I saw a bunch of dudes at an SECA Majors race run a VR1. They're like, that stuff does not break down with heat. Just run it. Don't have enough oil cooler in your ITA car? 300 degrees? It'll work. And that's my life.
I've never spun a bearing with VR1. I'll put it that way. So he's been using VR1 the entire time. And it's funny, because even when we were scoping him out, he had another, this was years ago, he had another oil brand sponsor. And he actually didn't use their stuff, because you could look in the videos and see VR1 bottles turn backwards. It's such freaking good oil. Yeah, and he's building rotaries with 2,000 horsepower, and he's like nerds out on it. Yeah, it's good freaking oil. And I have no stake in the game with VR1. I can tell. But it's freaking good oil. It's good stuff. I mean, across the board, it's great. We've got a new product, extended protection, that's what I run the Type R.
And I don't run 530 or 040 like a bunch of guys. I run 020. What's recommended. What's recommended. And it's great. With variable valve stuff, you almost have to have the right oil for the phasers and all that stuff. Yeah, and the clearances are tight, so you've got to get the heat out. And I ask Warholic all the time, because he also does the Hendrix stuff, too. And I'm like, hey, is this okay? I'm like at 280 degrees. He's like, ah, it's fine. He's like, keep running it. Don't worry about that guy. Yeah, very cool. I love your products. And I'm glad you can hang out to them. Yeah, it was fun. I appreciate it, guys. That was a super fun podcast. We should get some food. We got a little lost in here.
Thanks for coming up, buddy. Of course, man. So Austin, I started this thing years ago, and now we got him back once in a while. Once or twice a year. What was it? 2016? 2015. 2015. Dang. That's a long freaking time. Seven years. The Abe Broman episode was episode 100. Really? We're on episode 454. You should have him back for 500. We're approaching 500. That's a great motor. Yeah. 454, that gold 7.4 liter GM. Although that old, we've got that 455. We can put that in the truck. That's true. We should. We beat the shit out of Greg Biffle in his backyard. We got any sponsors for this? Yeah, we should do. We got our buddies right over there. Yeah.
Fields Auto Works. Yeah, Fields Auto Works. Fields Engineering. They got some really cool products. They could do trackside support. The Cardinal and S300. And the Scioto. Yeah, I said it wrong the first time I had to redo the ads. Such good dudes. That car speaks to me. Yeah, it's so pretty. I want one so bad. Really, really cool. But I can't afford anything nice because I have a bus. That's true. I also have that, and I don't have as much money into it as you do. And also, we'd like to thank those guys at Apex Pro. Patrick, you are an advocate for Apex Pro. They have really cool stuff. I love Andrew. I've raced with him.
we want to do it again sometimes. So handsome. That's too much handsome, dude. He is, and he's so nice. Patrick and Andrew in the same car. I know. Jeez. And I'll let you have a free plug for Valvoline if you want. Yeah, I think we plugged the shit out of him. Go buy some Valvoline. I authentically use VR1, and I'm so stoked that I can like, oh, I don't have it, I can go get it. Because I would just get it from Amazon or a distributor or whatever. I saw a barrel of it. There was one time when they signed on, I was just instant messaging with him or whatever, and he's like, hey, do you need some oil? And I was like, I've got to do an oil change on the bus. And he's like, what's your address? And two weeks later, there's literally a semi-truck in my front yard, and the dude's like, do you have a pallet check? I'm like,
I was like, I've got to make a good first question. This is the house. Out of a pellet check? One more story time. Because it's the best email I've ever received. And I was so pumped. And we got our group message with the Winning Formula guys and other folks in the Kentucky factory. He's buddies with Aaron and all them. Because he lives there. Yeah, Emil and all those guys. So I get this email. And the subject line says, I need some oil. Not oil. Earl. Earl. It was Martin Martin. And that was it. That was the email. I need some oil. It was an address. It had no copy. It was just, I need some oil. The subject was. And I was like, I wish everybody sent this great email. What can did we send him?
He's got to fill his giant brand new bus and he's probably got some cars His RV well his RV life just helps everybody does it's out of control Yeah, very very interesting RV life if you're not followed mark martin's RV life. He's a great diesel I'll keep that in mind. Abe and I both drive a big old Cummins, dude. You might be able to do extended drains, too. I just do it once a year, man. I mean, mine's a 91. She makes some oil dirty, but we run her 12,000 miles between Phillips. Which is only like a third or half. I like how you said between Phillips, not changes. She's a good old smoky girl, but what are we going to do? The Valvoline flow is all through my junk now, so I love it. I mean my cars. We're not talking about private parts like your Formula Ford on the curb. Thanks for coming on, dude. We're glad to have Austin here.
I came to talk about airplanes soon. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. Crazy life. Thanks for coming, everybody, and we are out at ATL. Slip Angle was created by Austin Cabot and Adam Jubey, co-hosted by Derek Yarbrough, and production by Abram Schmucker, who mixes all of our terrible audio. If you like the show, please rate us and review us on iTunes, and come and find us in the Pit City Grid Live to say hello.