Paul Hawken: Carbon is the flow of life

What is there to question about the dominant framing of “climate crisis”? What does it mean to understand carbon not just as an element but as the flow of life? And how do we begin to recalibrate our senses of delusion or reality in a world where often up is portrayed is down and down as up? In this conversation, we are joined by Paul Hawken, a world renowned climate expert who invites us to move beyond the fixation on carbon in a reductive, objectified equation of emissions and sequestration, and to look to the roots of why the planet and its communities are experiencing distress to begin with. How do we counter the climate movement’s co-optation by technological, capitalist interests? We invite you to… tune in and subscribe to Green Dreamer via any podcast app; subscribe to kaméa’s newsletters here; and support our show through a one-time donation or through joining our paid subscriptions on Patreon or Substack. Disclaimer: Please note that Green Dreamer’s interviews are minimally edited (both audio and non-verbatim transcript) for clarity and brevity only. All statements should be understood as commentary based on publicly available information, and the views expressed in this interview are those of the guest and host only and do not necessarily reflect the views of Green Dreamer. While we have made reasonable effort in our interview research and production process to ensure accuracy, we do not present our content as factual assertion and we are unable to guarantee the completeness or correctness of every piece of information shared. As such, we invite you to view our publications as references and starting points to dive more deeply into each topic and thread explored.