Paul O'Sullivan: We'll force Hogan Lovells to come clean on SA State Capture role

I’ve found that travelling South Africans tend to speak more openly. Perhaps it’s a function of being away from home. Whatever the cause, it certainly adds an element of freshness to my interviews here in London. But forensic investigator Paul O’Sullivan falls outside that generality. Whether we’ve been together in his Johannesburg office, a hotel near Heathrow Airport, or, as here, a pub in Central London, he’s consistent: speaking from the heart, sharing what he knows, holding little back. South Africa’s most famous private sector crime fighter is in London this week to support his friend Lord Peter Hain, who arranged a series of events to celebrate the centenary of Nelson Mandela’s birth. We met last night ahead of a well-attended DA Abroad event. As you’ll hear, the discussion quickly moves onto matters close to the corruption busting O’Sullivan’s heart – like last week’s apology from McKinsey and why he and Hain are determined to force the global legal firm Hogan Lovells to break cover and admit its role in South Africa’s State Capture saga. Fascinating as ever…