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EPISODE · May 15, 2026 · 1H 26M

Paying More For Less & Why Books Are Sexy | Chloé Cooper Jones

from That Sounds Like A Lot with Matt Buechele · host Matt Buechele

Matt Buechele breaks down the impossible cost of modern life, and why everything feels like a luxury experience or a gambling app. Then, on his way to jury duty, Matt reflects on America’s inability to sit quietly in a room for three hours without pretending to be racist to get out of it. Then he sits down with writer and journalist Chloé Cooper Jones for a conversation about chaotic weekends in upstate New York, swimming in lakes that may or may not heal you spiritually, and the strange intimacy of male friendship. They also talk about disability, ambition, why reading is sexy, and the freedom that comes with getting old enough to stop caring what strangers think of you. Topics covered:  - The Fiddler on the Roof audition  - Disability in the media - Writing for the 14-year-old self - Looksmaxxing & longevity biohacking through reading - The “saintly” trap & disability as inevitability  - The labor of being seen - Mortal peril as a love language - The Anti-Inspiration Narrative - G-suite infidelity Chapters: 00:00:00 Dynamic Pricing and the Rising Cost of Living  00:01:26 Matt’s Jury Duty Experience  00:03:13 The Used Swim Goggles Gift  00:05:28 The Farm Stand Fiasco & "Trump Ate My Dog" Shirt  00:11:52 Lake Minnewaska and the "Pearl vs. Maniac" Dynamic  00:17:17 Running 18 Miles to the Beaches of Normandie  00:25:22 Growing Up in Kansas and the Power of Libraries  00:31:38 The Theater Audition That Changed Everything  00:40:42 Rejecting Expectations and Chloe's "Easy Beauty" Memoir  00:58:04 Dilemmas: Sharing a Car with an Ex & G-Suite Infidelity  01:08:55 Teaching Writing at Columbia and the Reality of AI  01:18:19 Final Predictions: Politics, Handwriting, and Florida  FOLLOW THE SHOW ►Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatsoundslikealot/  ►Threads: https://www.threads.com/@thatsoundslikealot  FOLLOW MATT BUECHELE ►Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattbooshell/  ►TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattbooshell  ►Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mattbooshell.bsky.social Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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