Pazazu Algarad

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It's giving season. Our main topic for today is pazuzu algorad. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. This topic was actually sent to us by one of the listeners and I believe it was a key.

He said you should consider this topic and I thought I have never heard of this before and so I looked it up and this is some creepy stuff. He's a creepy dude. The last time I got this big of creeps researching a podcast was when we did medieval torture devices. Which was cool but severely creepy.

This is just creepy and severely creepy. But it ties into a recent podcast that we did. So I'm excited to talk about it and talk about that tie in. That relationship.

Yeah. So we'll give you the back story first. Okay there is a fruit fly. I've got fruit flies in my house.

Not a ton but just enough that there's always one there but I cannot find what they're doing. You know when you've got fruit flies and you'll find a garbage can someone there's like a cloud. I've never found ground zero. Anyway, sorry, squirrel.

Okay, pazuzu. That's what it's like to live with me. So what's a pazuzu? It's not of what well.

Like I said, it's what? But it's also a who. This pazuzu is a fellow his he was born John Alexander Lawson. He was born in 1978 in California.

And we don't know a whole lot about his early life but at some point his parents got divorced. He and his mom relocated to Clemens North Carolina. And then his dad went back to California. And he decided to change his name from John Alexander Lawson to pazuzu, Ila Alligard.

You can see the attraction. Yes. You can see the attraction is such a beautiful name. So pazuzu is actually you know the movie The Exorcist.

Yeah. It is the name of an Assyrian demon that was in that movie. It played by Eileen Deats. She was the actress that played it.

He used to tell people that he had magical powers and he could control the weather. So why not name yourself after a demon? Hold on, Decker kind of controlled the rain. Well, he actually controlled the rain.

This guy was just nuts. That was rude. I was rude. I was true.

Here's an interesting thing. I'm learning Arabic. And Al means like of the or the I thought Algra because he also will tell people or he's dead down. But he would tell people that he was a Iranian descent and apparently there's not an Iranian drop of blood in him at all.

And no, he looked pretty pretty Nordic blonde hair blue eyed. Yeah. So Algraad. I thought I wonder if that's an Islamic thing.

And I don't know if this is just coincidence. I don't know if Algraad meant something to him. But I typed it into my translator that I've got on my phone as closely as I could because they don't really have a G. And this is Algraad.

Algraad. They have a J sound. So I typed it in as closely as I could come up with. And Algraad means locusts in Arabic.

So it's a very interesting book. So it's a very interesting book. So there's actually a book. So he's very interesting looking.

He's got a bunch of face tattoos and he filed his teeth to be pointy. He filed himself. He didn't go in and have implants put in or he just got out of file and went to town in the bathroom one day which just does not seem very healthy to me. But that's me.

So there's a gal named Patricia Gillespie and she produced a documentary which you can find on YouTube. It's called The Devil You Know. And she said it was one of the reasons we don't know much about his childhood. I mean because his mother was around.

He was around. We'll get to his demise eventually. But she said it was really hard to get a true grasp of what his life was like because he would reinvent stories about his childhood. Basically he was a pathological liar.

And so you just you never knew what was true and what wasn't. And as she said, he told people he was from Iraq. He told people his father was some high priest. But the people who knew him as a child described him as a little off-kilter, a little emotional.

Things that might indicate the beginning of a mental illness like harming animals, consuming alcohol and drugs at a very early age. There's like big time in alcohol by 13. Yeah. He was actually diagnosed with the mental illnesses schizophrenia, alcoholism and agoraphobia.

And I forgot to look at that. But isn't that a not many men around people? I don't know. Fear of agoraphobia.

Oh, I can't take you anywhere. Okay. So we checked. Agoraphobia is an anxiety paranoia, you know, crowds being around people being in situations that might trigger anxiety.

I'm sorry. New places, things like that. Yeah. So that's kind of what I thought but I wasn't entirely sure.

Now his mom's name was Cynthia. And she originally, you know, when he was younger and that was noticing that that maybe he was a little off. She actually got him some psychiatric help. And so he did, you know, for quite some time get some help and was doing really well.

But eventually she ran out of money. She couldn't afford the treatment for him. So he stopped going to treatment and apparently once he stopped going to treatment his mental health deteriorated very quickly. Cynthia was interviewed for this documentary documentary.

It's actually the W. No Iceland, the I.C.E. by slant. So if you want if you're interested, that's what you're gonna find it.

And what she, she being Cynthia described in her interview as they were making this. She said he wasn't by any means an angel but he wasn't a bad person or a boogeyman or whatever phrases people have called him. And I mean, I haven't watched this documentary. I want to because it I think it would be interesting.

But I'm sure that at one point he wasn't a boogeyman. I'm sure at one point, you know, he was just struggling with this mental illness. But as soon as he stopped getting treatment for this, he turned into the boogeyman. You know, he turned into a bad person.

But I agree with her and just a little bit that I've read I think he just started out as you know, just having some issues. And here, you know, when we we've done, we've talked about serial killers on this podcast before, and we've always tried to tie in a paranormal experience. And usually you can find, you know, a haunting story or some ghost story, you know, ghost sighting or something that ties into it. I couldn't find one for this one.

But I did find our paranormal tie in with this one. And again, if you remember listening to what two podcasts ago when we talked about mental illness versus possession, a lot of people who knew him said that his change was very dramatic. It wasn't, you know, something slow that happened over several years. I said, you know, he went from just kind of a normal run of the mill, American kid, but you know, I had some issues to just almost overnight, you know, the face tattoos and the real dramatic changes and heavy drinking.

And when we have talked before of possession, that's one of the signs of the second stage of possession is just a very dramatic switch, very dramatic change of behavior, very dramatic change in dress. You know, and everyone's gonna, especially in your teenage years, you're going to experiment with, you know, preppy and experiment, I'm just going for my own experiments. I mean, preppy to new wave that doesn't age me at all. We're goth.

Or goth. I mean, you know, I see teenagers and you can tell that they're experimenting. But this wasn't an experiment. This was a I've been this way for a long time and suddenly boom, I'm extremely extremely different.

There's a difference in that. So it was in 2002 that he changed his name to Pazuzu, Ila, Alligard, kind of an homage to the Assyrian demon referenced in the exorcist like we mentioned. But all these things kind of happened at the same time, name change. And so to me, I'm gonna say that he had some mental illness.

And I think because of the mental illness, not only was he an easy target, but I think he also wanted it. Yeah, we talked a little bit before about the different levels of possession. We said it's not something that happens to someone extremely quickly. There's a caveat on that and that caveat is unless you want it to, right?

And I think are you inviting it in? I mean, it has been possessed if you're resistant to can take an awful long time. If you're if you're trying to shut it and stay away, it's not something that happens quickly. But if it's something that you are embracing and inviting in that can happen very quickly.

Right. I consider this fellow to be a perfect storm. He had the mental illness, which is going to make you more open to it anyway. And then on top of that, the lifestyle he lived was an open invitation.

I mean, he was a he was a very prolific and what sort I'm looking for obvious, proud, St. worshipper. When they went into his house, I posted on the front of his house to me for the house sign on this front. If you Google this, you can actually very easily find video, the sheriff's department videoed inside the house before they demolished it.

And all over the wall, because he believed he was Iranian, he looked up some Arabic, Arabic words. I'm not gonna say he learned Arabic. I don't think he had that kind of mental capacity. And I'm not saying, Oh, it's much better because I do.

But I just, he wasn't in the mindset of let's learn a foreign language. I think he just looked up a few words because you would see the same couple words over and over in the house, like spray painted on things and the walls and the one one of the words that I saw several times was ablas, which is the devil. And it was painted. I probably sat in the video six or seven times.

So describe what a good housekeeper he was. So every once in a while, my mindset is if my house looked like an RC, Willie showroom, which is a popular Utah furniture store. If my house looked like an RC, Willie showroom, my life would be happy. That means said it does not.

But it's not filthy. I mean, sometimes the dishes could be done a little more often. And sometimes maybe I could sweet one more time that week or something. But really all in all, my home is pretty clean.

And when I watch an episode of the hoarders, it makes me realize that I'm doing a bang up job. This house was pretty much an episode of the hoarders, broken glass on the floor, dead animals, feces, dead animals in cages, feces, sporting dead animals. ground into the floor. They found substances that they're pretty sure was blood.

On the walls on the walls on the floor. It was gross. And that the walls, the main, the corn, the house was all very satanic, very dark, very, very negative. Yeah, you could you could see the floor.

Didn't he have a girlfriend that lived there with him to fiance? He had to fiance. So one of the things at the same time, at the same time that we know of, did he have more? We don't know.

And wasn't that his mother's house? Yes, his mother lived there? Yes. And as far as hygiene is concerned.

So it was her home. People that knew him, like one of his psychiatrists said that he bathed no more than once a year and hadn't brushed his teeth in years. And the reason for this, he claimed that personal hygiene stripped the body of its defenses and warning off infection and illnesses. So he thought any sort of hygiene was actually bad for you.

When it's like, dude, it's just opposite. Well, cleanliness is next to Godliness. And that's not where he wanted to go. No.

Very sure. But you're just going back to the house and just the state of the house and the things that were on the house. And it wasn't just confined to the inside. I mean, the front door had a picture of the devil in the front of him in the back.

I'm sure that at one time this home was quite nice because in the backyard, there was a pool. And I know what you're thinking, pool sparkly blue water. No, this pool was emptied. I mean, when I say emptied, it was, you know, of chlorinated water, there may have been six inches of murky sludge from rain or whatever in it.

But there was stuff spray painted on the back of the house. There was stuff spray painted on the walls of the pool. I mean, anybody with eyeballs that could see this home from any angle is going to see something satanic and dark on the home. And, you know, just this behavior, his behavior, his looks, his pointed teeth, his, oh, he, he would tell people that he regularly made animal sacrifices, which I totally believe based on all the dead animals in the home and, you know, the animal feces and, you know, a lot of the blood they found in the home will get to this in just a second.

But some of it was animal blood. But just a major, major rebellion against the city and its residents, because this, the city is a very heavily Christian city as are most cities in, in the southern US. You know, I would, I would say this was probably in the Bible belt. And so, you know, he's just pushing against kicking against the pricks, I guess, is what they would say.

So he did other stuff besides just animal sacrifice, animal sacrifice and making me feel good about my housekeeping skills. Going back to his two fiancees, not one, but two fiancees. He really kind of is vaguely similar to Charles Manson. In fact, he kind of patterned his group, or he wanted to pattern after Charles Manson.

Right. No, I mean, he did this kind of purposely, it was like his mentor in a way, his family. He has this strange charisma where he actually could draw others who felt socially excluded, kind of into his circle. You know, your social outcast, oh come on, I shall take care of you.

And he encouraged them to engage in the Bakari, the Batchari, sorry, I can't talk, engage in the Batchari. He had a friend by the name of Nate Anderson, and Nate told people, I'm just going to read this, he had a twisted sort of charisma. It's the kind of charisma that isn't going to appeal to everyone, but certain minds are going to be drawn in by that, the misfits, the outcasts, people living on the edge or people who wanted to live on the edge. We're drawn to him.

And just his energy and his aura and just his off-kilter charisma. And Manson could attract women and soak at Algorad. So he had two fiancees, like we've mentioned before, their names were Amber and Crystal. And his home, which was actually his mother's home, kind of became a hub for his family, his, you know, for all these misfits that were drawn to him.

And this is kind of, you know, his hub of operation was his mother's home. So kind of the rules that he had were a lack of rules, they could come and stay as long as they wanted. And he did not care what they did in his home. So the mess that's in there can't be attributed just to him, but could be attributed to all of his followers, all of his family, all the people that came in.

And they didn't care, they didn't care, wasn't their home. So here's some of these activities. Self-harm, drinking the blood of birds, performing rabbit sacrifices, copious drug use, and staging orgies. Well, there you go.

The Votchery. E-drink for Mary for tomorrow, you'll die, I guess. Orgees on feces with a dirty, gross person that hasn't bathed. Yeah, doesn't that sound like a lot of fun?

None of this sounds fun at all. No, no. So it's interesting on the video that I found, you know, the Sheriff's Department. I mean, they can't handle the stench and, you know, they go through the home and show you all the rooms in the home.

And then they go outside because the story gets even more interesting once we make it outside. But they're outside. And the cameraman says, you know, there's like four or five people that are, you know, going through the home. The cameraman says, is that stench out here or is it coming from inside the home?

I mean, it was so bad you couldn't tell where it was coming from. You know, because they'd been inside, they'd been inside for probably the video that I watched was maybe 15 minutes. So they'd been in the home for probably 10 of those minutes. And they went outside and he couldn't tell if the stench was outside stench inside stench.

That's how bad it had been. It was dark. And by dark, I'm talking heavy dark because as you went in, it was well lit. When it was dark and I could even feel the energy of, you know, just the dark energy just watching the video.

I'm just like, oh, bazoo, zoo, besides just some self-harm and self, you know, just giving himself over to demonic stuff. He was charged with accessory after the fact of involuntary manslaughter because there's actually several deaths attributed to him and by several probably three or four that I can think of. Okay, so this was in October 2010, that he was charged with this. In September of 2010, the body of Joseph Emerick Chandler was discovered in Yadkin County.

And bazoo zoo was accused of concealing information from investigators and allowing the murder suspect to stay this house and knew that he was the murder suspect. If you don't know, I don't think you can be charged with accessory, but he knew. So four years later, so I was already kind of got this record on the set October 5th, 2014, bazoo zoo, who's 35 years old at this time. And his fiance Amber, who was 24, they were both arrested because skeletal remains of two men were found buried in their back here.

So when they went outside in this video that I watched, they actually showed, I mean, the holes were still there. I don't know, maybe I just have a little bit more innocent mind than I think, but Chad and I really enjoy watching forensic files and deadly women and Lieutenant Joquinda, we like these. And one of the reason why I like them is not because I like the people are killed, that's terrible. I like watching how they catch these back guys.

I like watching, especially forensic files to see how they catch them. They can do amazing things with forensics. It's amazing. So in this backyard, the holes where they found these remains were still open.

They had big blue tarps with piles of dirt on them so they can sift through and find bits and pieces. I don't know, when you watch forensic files and they say, oh, they killed this person in the very dim in their backyard. The smarts of my brain tell me this is not how it works, but I always imagine this very neat rectangle that's dug and then he laid out flat. You bagpiped it way too many funerals.

With their little arms over their chests, clutching a flower. These were just little round holes that were just dug and they just stuffed them in. I was like, oh, that's kind of a harsh reality for me. I don't know, maybe I just want these people to have been buried nicely after they've been brutally killed by some psychopath.

So I know, it was a little disturbing to me to see just this little, literally they walked out the door and dug a hole just right there. I'm just stuffed them in. And I think they were dismembered. I think they were dismembered.

So just part of some pieces were just thrown in these holes. Yeah, that was part of the story is they dismembered them. So it was about a week later that these men were identified and they were identified as Joshua Wetzler and Tommy Welch. And they actually had disappeared in 2009.

So they'd been buried in the backyard for five years. So they arrested Pazuzu. They arrested Amber, his fiance, who was 24 years old while his other fiance, Crystal, was 28 years old. She was actually charged in connection with the death of one of the persons whose body was found.

And then she was suspected of helping with the burial of Wetzler. And if I'm a member, I don't have this in my notes, but I think he had killed one of them. And he just sat in the house for like a week or two. And then he called Crystal and said, Hey, what you doing?

Come help me bury this body. And hadn't at least one of these been kind of a friend previously? I think they both been friends. I mean, yeah, they kind of got on the outs for some reason.

And so that was the reason enough to kill. Yep. So they think that Pazuzu had killed Joshua in 2009. And Amber helped bury his body.

And then apparently, Amber had killed the other fellow a couple months later. And Pazuzu had helped with that burial. They'd both been shot in the head. So I don't know.

I mean, there's not a lot of information of yeah, and I know at least one of them had been dismembered completely, you know, they cut off everything. I mean, arms, legs, every extremity, every extremity. We want one of those, but everything, anything that could could project out project is a good word. I was going to use a different one that was better.

Anyway, when they found the remains and I don't know how police were there were some details that were left out. Maybe I need to watch the documentary. I don't know how police were alerted to the fact that these bodies were buried in the backyard. But shortly after they found these bodies and exhumed the bodies, they deemed a home unfit for human habitation.

And April of 2015, that could have been determined before they found the bodies with the way that houses. I could have told you that before they found the bodies. But at that point, they said, no, you guys are out. And I guess they had given Cynthia the mother a timeline to get it cleaned up, you know, and they do this with all order homes if you've ever watched orders, you know, you've got to get it cleaned up by this time or you've got to move or, you know, and she didn't make it and they actually extended it for her.

Because I don't get the impression that she had anything to do with anything. I think she was just the mom and... But she didn't do anything about it either. Exactly.

She didn't stop it. But you wondering, you know... She was complicit, not in, you know, omission, but in just not taking care of it or notifying authorities about what's going on. Yeah, and I'm thinking if you've got a dead guy hanging out somewhere in your house, you'd say something to somebody.

Just me. And they actually demolished them. There's actually pictures when I was trying to look for some sort of a ghost story, you know, someone's seen an apparition or, you know, hearing noises or something. I came across a photo of the neighbor actually, just the home, or the land.

And in the picture, it's just, you know, it's flat. Looks like he's seeding it with grass or something. And apparently the neighbors were very, very, very happy when it was gone. And I would have to agree if there's a...

It's a normal looking residential area. I mean, it was a rather normal middle-class home. I mean, it wasn't no shack in some shabby little town, at least from when the pictures that I had seen of it. It could be a house in your neighborhood or my neighborhood kind of a thing.

Right. I mean, it had a pool in the backyard. And pools aren't cheap. So at some point, it was quite a nice home.

And I don't know if that was originally Cynthia's home. I'm assuming that she bought it since they moved from California. But at one point, it was a very, very nice home. Yeah, it looked kind of like a brick rambleer home that would have been built in the 60s, 70s.

Yep. So obviously, Algorad has gone to prison. But his story doesn't, you know, just stop at prison. In early, it was October 28th, 2015, he was found dead in this prison cell in Raleigh, North Carolina.

The death was ruled a suicide. He bled to death as a result of a deep cut on his left arm. I think they said it was on the inside of his elbow. And the instrument, which he cut himself as unknown, they kind of think that he used his teeth.

And I'm sorry. That's what I read. But that had to have hurt really bad. I will never kill myself that way.

With your file sharpened teeth? Because, ow. I'm a wuss. Ow.

That would not happen. The autopsy revealed... I don't remember what the autopsy revealed last time again. The autopsy revealed that his death was due to excessive blood loss.

There were a few things that they found in the cell, like an electric razor, a clear bottle of red fluid. But they couldn't find anything that... That could have made that kind of a cut. So they figured it was his teeth.

So two years later, in 2017, Amber, who was the fiance, played guilty to second degree murder, armed robbery, and accessory after the fact. So apparently, she was the one that shot Tommy Welch, one of the fellas that they found buried outside. She shot him twice in the head with a 22 caliber rifle as he was just sitting on the couch. We don't know what he was doing, but there he sat.

And she shot him. She was sentenced to a minimum of 30 years and eight months in prison with a maximum of 39 years and two months. And then fiance two, she played guilty to conspiracy to accessory after the fact of first degree murder on June 5th, 2017. She was sentenced to a minimum of three years and two months with a maximum of four years and ten months.

So, honestly as creepy as that is, this would be, I think, an interesting place to investigate just with the heavy, heavy energy there. Yeah, that's a lot of stuff going on. And for quite a while, it wasn't just a few weeks or months, it was multiple years. Right.

And then just to throw back again to the discussion we had a couple podcasts ago about the mental illness versus paranormal. And I think he had it all. And it would be interesting to know what kind of stuff paranormal wise was happening in the room, where you're inviting that and you're living a lifestyle that invites that in. Were they hearing voices?

Were they seeing things? Were they able to actually see some of these spirits? Were they not that I'm jealous? I don't want to hear or see anything like that.

But it would be interesting to know what kind of went down behind those closed doors. But part of me also doesn't want to know what down behind those closed doors because what I do know is creepy enough. So, yeah. Hey, before we go over to the bucket list, I would like to remind everybody to check out our shop at AdvancedPairnormal.com where you can find Sage sprays.

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My turn for bucket list and my bucket list is ancient Egypt. I mean, I can't go to ancient Egypt ever because it's already happened. But I would like to go to Egypt and see what the ancient Egyptians did. There you go.

I actually have a friend that's actually a former student's mother that I kind of follow on Facebook. And she and her daughter just went there a couple months ago. And now I want to go there. I think that would be a fascinating place to go.

Go to the pyramids. Oh, the Sphinx. The Sphinx and Valley of the Kings. Yeah, and just see all that stuff.

I'm fascinated by ancient Egypt and just everything that went on. See the Nile. I want to stick my feet in the Nile. And when I go, I'm taking ghost hunting stuff.

No, I don't know that they would be keen on me just jumping in there doing my ghost hunting thing, but I can pull stuff out on the sly. I've done that before. I was there. I have ghost hunted on the sly.

So that is my bucket list. Maybe it can be my graduation press. Sound straight from school. We'll go to Egypt.

Maybe. And you can use all your Arabic. Yes. We're doing it.

We got two years to plan. Okay. Saving up now. That's the top thing on the bucket list.

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Go. They've got great food and it's great. We're going to actually go there again. Sometimes soon.

Sometimes that's better to go when it's warmer because one of the best places to investigate is actually outside. Yeah, that cross by the creek is a really neat area. Yeah. So very active.

Yeah. But if you're looking just for some really good food, it's a bar, but I don't care. And you shouldn't either because it's got great food. It's a great I told Raven I said this reminds me of a cafe from downtown Provo when I grew up that was just you know, the just like a morning cafe kind of thing.

I mean, the old cafeteria cafe deal. It was great. The food was great. It just reminded me that it's a bar, but I think it's really a restaurant with a bar in many ways more than than just a bar.

I'm sure on Friday and Saturday nights and at nights it's it's a bar during the day. It's a it's a great restaurant. It is. It's amazing.

If you remember our last junk drawer, this drug drawer needs no rating. This is not sketchy. The rogue will not be making weird faces at me during this one. It's been a while since we've done a stop.

Just weird faces because the content of the last drunk drawer was no part two. No, no part two. Sorry. So we're gonna talk about a stone, but this the stone is more of a shell.

It's abalone shell. So abalone is nicknamed the sea ears because of you know, it's kind of flat and a little bit oval shaped, kind of like a curved ear and it has small little holes in it, which lets the animal breathe, right? Everyone's seen abalone shell, right? Just a swirl of ocean-like colors.

It's a protective stone. You're a distant. Shimmering. On the inside.

Yeah, on the outside it's all rough and great. It's a protective stone because you know, as a shell it protects the abalone inside, you know, on the little, so it's the same for us. A little mollusk. It's the same for us.

It's you know, literal protective stone for us as well. And so if you're confident, it seems to kind of leave you or your fill-in safe, just grab your abalone shell. Give it a hug. And I mean, I mean, that to be silly, but I also mean that.

I mean it. Hug it. It's a really popular one to overcome anxiety if you're feeling a little off, but it also kind of helps you stay true to yourself, especially in the matters of the heart. So if you feel that you're finding yourself, you know, fear and self-sabotage of getting into the way your relationships hug that abalone might be the stone for you.

It enhances tuition, it's not tuition. I hope that was enhanced tuition. I'll go get yourself. I don't know.

Is enhancing tuition, making tuition more? In that case you don't want your, it enhances your intuition. It helps boost your imagination. It can help you come up with new things if you're trying to think of a new idea, especially in the business or professional fronts.

So if you need to work through any emotional issues, it's good because it kind of encourages peace and calmness in highly emotional situations. You know, so think of the ocean. Think of rain. You never hear of people stressed out sitting by the ocean or stressed out when it's raining.

Something about water is just very calming. So it brings out. So how do you use it? You hold it.

So when I said go hug it, I wasn't just being dumb. You literally just hold it. It'll make you feel loved, cared for, protected, and it'll make you feel 100% your best. So you really need some abalone.

A lot of people will use an abalone shell when they're doing a saging. That they'll burn the sage and hold the abalone and then use a feather to help move the air. But I've seen that in an awful lot of an abalone shell being used as kind of the ashtray for the sage as they're doing cleansing in the sage. Absolutely.

So I'm just going to read this last little bit because I think it's cool. Whenever you feel overwhelmed by the demands of your job or your personal relationships, you can always hold a piece of abalone in your hands. You will feel peace and calm washing over you. And I've actually seen a lot of abalone jewelry, earrings or, you know, pendants.

It's pretty pretty and it's very popular. So it's a very relaxing one. And the page that I kind of looked up some of this information on says, abalone will bring a little piece of the ocean to you. So if you want to have a little piece of the ocean with you all the time, grab a little piece of abalone.

I like that. I never knew that. I didn't either. Stay spooky, my hunty friends.

I love you, Nicholas. Hey, have a good night. My ears hurt. You've been listening to the Supernatural Hour at AdvancedParanormal.com.

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