Peace or Plunder? Redi Tlhabi & Michela Wrong on Rwanda–DRC Tensions

Redi Tlhabi speaks with journalist and author Michela Wrong about the murky peace deal between Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo. What’s really driving this latest effort: justice, minerals, or Trump’s quest for a Nobel Peace Prize? Wrong unpacks the long-standing roots of the conflict, Rwanda’s covert military interventions, and the DRC’s strategic value in a world desperate for critical minerals. Together, they explore the price of transactional peace, the manipulation of genocide trauma, and the fragile political future of both nations.Michela Wrong has spent more than three decades writing about Africa, working for the likes of Reuters, the BBC, Financial Times, Guardian, New Statesman and Spectator. Her books include “In the Footsteps of Mr Kurtz”, the story of Mobutu Sese Seko, “I didn’t do it for you”, on Eritrea, “It’s Our Turn to Eat”, an examination of Kenyan corruption, and “Borderlines”, a novel set in the Horn. Her latest book, “Do Not Disturb”, is a critique of Rwandan President Paul Kagame’s repressive rule.01:50 The Assassination of Patrick Cara03:33 Rwanda's Involvement in the DRC06:53 The M23 Rebel Group08:21 US Involvement and Peace Deal10:18 Skepticism and Hope for Peace11:10 The Role of the US in African Peacekeeping19:13 Paul Kagame's Leadership and Tactics21:02 Kagame's Recent Disappearance24:50 The UN Report on the DRC26:36 Joseph Kabila and Eastern CongoProduced by Emilie Gambade, Bernard Kotze & Joel Seboa You can listen to the podcast everywhere, including Spotify! Support journalism that protects democracy. Become a Maverick Insider. https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/insider/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.