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Well, there's a bright interior intro welcome to the Wis show We are back after hiatus. I am not dead yet yet. Yeah, although I got to take it The first couple days after that whole cancer surgery thing. Yeah, kind of wish it had been it was an adventure like a c-section I have no tears for you well first off They cut a hole in my side and they put a great big tube in there It was like nine inches long to drain out blood and then before I got discharged in hospitals.
I got that out I'm like, oh, okay, how's that happen? I now know what it feels like to be stabbed. It was not a pleasant sensation I had drains and once they said I take a deep breath and when we say go blow out really hard And so I did and the ink got the drains like that didn't help still hurt. Yeah, it hurt Are you saying you haven't been stabbed before?
We can fix that yet. Oh, okay. You got nice. So what pain was worse this or running into the chain at the Zeiss building?
You know, it's interesting that you drop parallel there because after I ran the chain at Zeiss building we talked about me peeing blood Maybe that's what you do the cancer, which I never did people out from that. However since the surgery that has become regular occurrence I go on a walk I pee blood They they sure me it goes away and that it's okay, but uh, they make me wear this catheter for two weeks Which is really exciting and it's yeah, I'm sure everyone is so So yeah, I gotta tell you that thing is about a big round of piece of cox cable like from your cable DB company It is not comfortable, but I have to turn this bag of pee and this bag of pee after a walk is like looks like fruit punch Um, oh, this is so gross You know women go through a monthly thing then we leave for five days one more. Sorry. Wait, is this is this a wisp show?
Or are we talking about life on the rocks, please? Did we change podcasts all of a sudden? It's like a testimony where I can have like the medical girl. Share money meeting Next onto my vacation.
I don't think testimony meetings are correct for that I think it's share money meeting because when when I do go to church, that's all it is Is yeah, I was walking down the street and I got hit by a rock in the forehead and I said, you know, thanks god And the church is true. Amen. That's and for those outside Utah. That's a very inside LDS reference That we'll get into another day on our religious podcast that someday do maybe never That's about as religious we'll get anyway.
I am your host castle to my right. We have the aunt hello and her weird raven that she purchases on her My awesome. It's an awesome raven. I'm gonna hide that.
It's awesome. You're just jealous. I'm very backyard You know you need to come up with a different catchphrase because you're just jealous is kind of old and played out Well, I know I don't want to be kidding I'm gonna be here. Gary's making it.
Um to my left. I have tennis log whisper You know Greg actually called me Tim on his podcast and they called me beaker and that was totally fine with that And then he also mentioned how I hate tennis log whisper and we should probably kill you and bury you so that name goes I'd be careful. He could flick pee on I got a whole bag of pee. I'm sure I can get some pee on you too Why don't I always devolve into pee I'm the one that pees on things not you.
No, I got a bag. I can see it But see tennis log whisper is a hard-earned nickname. That's that name is got soul. I earned beaker That that name is got soul I do feel for you that you have to have that nickname because that was a hard-earned I didn't leave that cross base.
I really did not I know she had to walk out of cross base through the home to get out of the home I didn't want to leave either, but I also wanted to take some trouble. I'm getting any Uh, and then last but certainly not least we have brandy aka peaches with us And lurch went camping which I don't understand camping is awful. I pay a mortgage payment every month So I don't have to camp. Uh, that's what people do who panhandle the interest Walmart they camp every night Uh, and that's why I came work And that's why we still talking to the slob whisper.
No, no, I'm not the slob. I'm I talked to the slob That was a little example of how I talked to the slob that was that was in the same city coded messages That's how I communicate. That's how I communicate with the slobs is there's some burps and Ascratting's I do it three fingers. It means come here.
I am the one that like when we're investigating and I burp I'll call it out. I'll be like if that was me Also besides lurch not being here tonight silent dawn is also taking hiatus which i'm sure you'll notice or is he or is he is No, he had family come into town, but we wanted to try and not have a lot as long a hiatus as we possibly could have That was about as confusing a statement as I've ever made. That's okay. Tesla got bored and wanted us to hang out with him.
Yeah, I'm a shut in. He's lonely I'm a shut in. I got tired of him calling me every day because he's bored and has nothing better to do Hey, if you could go to the you could do it I did after my surgery and you could go to the gym On the days when the senior citizens come and be left by 80 year old women and just feel the awesome I got left by a year old to walker at the hospital Well, you would feel right at home because they all have urine bags also So when you get better like are you gonna go start doing like the old lady water robics at the gym? Hell yeah There any style like went to 90 year old grandma's and castle Yeah, and that's the worst part setting up the studio like I can't lift anything so I'm not supposed to can you lift that?
Will you move that? See I would have helped you but I was I was helping some lady lift her car because she doesn't know how to drive apparently That was interesting. Can we pretend that didn't happen in the city? Yeah, we can pretend but it doesn't make it true It was actually right down the street from your house before we get going with our actual paranormal stuff You guys have to show that story because it was kind of awesome So we got here a little bit early And we were looking for a place to eat which apparently nothing is open in Utah County after six o'clock at night Sunday so I was driving through some parking lotch because there's a bunch of restaurants all right next to each other We're trying to find one that's open and there's this lady at the exit of the parking lot out onto the street And there's a big like cement median that separates the cars going out and the cars coming in like an island Yeah, like an island and uh she was on it Literally she was literally on the island and uh I go to turn and she kind of weighs me down So I get out and she's like oh I forgot this was here And she had pulled up and had the front end of her car sitting over the top of it And so I'm like okay, give me a second and I pulled my car out of the way because there's people that were trying to get out of the parking lot as well and uh She she's in a car and I go Can you put it in reverse for me and she's like yeah And then so she puts it in reverse on my did you try pushing the gas to see if it'll come off and she's like I don't want to do that.
I'm like okay Hold on And so peaches and I went up to the front of the car and I grabbed the front bumper and lifted up Enough so it could come off the island and she could back up and I left it up and the car started backing up And I'm like okay, sweet We got it And I look up and uh the lady is now standing next to me and the car is driving backwards on its own And so I had to run and grab the car and stop it as peaches jumped in the throat and parked it in the park And just take off in the parking lot without anybody in it Can we pretend this happened in West Valley or magna? She was special she was on something nice way Nice, it's very possible that at that point I ghost was driving her car because that's kind of what it looked like Yeah, we just in reverse All right, well before we get going we are actually recording tonight on our new computer Thank you everybody who contributed to our indigo go I know we've already started delivering on the perks that were listed I know we did the the private ghost tent we've already done and we'll actually talk about that here in a minute The shirts are ordered shirts are ordered for those ordered shirts I know we owe a presentation and as soon as I have gotten rid of my bag of pea It never gets old Uh in like a couple weeks I might send a text okay, we got to stop talking about the magna p on the podcast But it's funny now it's funny now and we'll talk about it in this episode and as soon as lurch gets back He's just gonna go overboard with it like he always does love you lurch We all have our moments But uh as soon as I am not a shed in anymore We will work on getting that presentation done what I'm excited for is I'm pretty sure one of those perks is gonna be claimed tonight Yes before I leave your house my wife mrs. Castle claimed the tennis lob whisperer special On purpose or did you make her she did it on her own? It's her idea Yeah, she was a little bit disappointed that nobody picked it because it was such a great perk And tim to your credit.
I gotta say there's some good stuff in the fridge Yeah, you know what okay, and so not many of you know about this I already I already looked through this fridge back here and there's a bunch of diet pepsi So did you not see the big tub of ribs in the bottom? Nope? I know what I'm having for dinner one thing about about castle is he actually is a pretty darn good cook So there you go. Yeah, I may have by the way making ribs when you're holding on the bag of pea I think I'll just go with the I'll take one of those two leaders home I'm not supposed to lift over 10 pounds.
I was more like me running around with the stick directing other people making the ribs lift that This here, that's awesome. Taney, but they turned out pretty good And so yeah, and there's like half a rotis or chicken in the front bridge Makes a really good that's a little bit of also in the front fridge Anyway, so I'll just throw five all day So there are options anyway, but again everybody. Thank you There's a couple more little components that we're gonna put on this computer to put where I want it to be But it is up and functional and we will be probably recording on site now at some places Because we have the means to do so I believe Caleb was our top donor as well. So he will be receiving the k2 meter sound and his brother Colton sorry Colton if I mispronounce that he's not sorry Basically purchased a private investigation for Caleb for Caleb's birthday And so he came to that investigation which we should probably talk about and sadly enough This was five days after the cancer surgery and so by the way, I don't know if I told you guys this but it's actually we figured out It was staged through the recancer.
So it's actually kind of advanced But anyway, I was unable to go to that investigation because I was shut in with a bag of pee And so I kind of had to follow it live on facebook We did try to bring you a little bit like really pictures She was sending you pictures and I did have the live feed going on for a couple minutes Nate all her who was there got a pretty good EDP And I actually have a few EDPs and I'm gonna reference and then I'm gonna put them at the end of the episode If I was a little more mobile and a lot less shitty any I would put them in the middle of the episode But what else do you have to do? Hmm your shitty any what else do you have to do? Well, it's yeah VVP will be the end of the episode But there's some evpe's one is I'm going to kill you now. I think from the investigation went on Was that the one from Nate?
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was awesome And then I've got some elemental Evpe's that will probably play because we're gonna talk about elementals after we talk about your investigation Um, we can't really talk about where the investigation was at per se Um, but we can tell you it was an old jail that's slated to be demolished in fact by the time this airs it might be a pile of rubble Um, so it was kind of a one shot once in lifetime opportunity to investigate this particular thing And it would be awesome to go back. I'm sad that it's gonna be Torndium So since I wasn't there, I'm gonna have you guys talk about it because I was not Over to you Um, so we kind of just you know did a walk through and I think that the the the cool I'm going to kill you now evpe We got your Nate got on the walk through Um, I actually have listened to all of my evpe's and I only got one that's a I mean, it's a hello. That's pretty boring This building was so cool.
There were we determined over a hundred spirits. Um, I was like when we asked questions like that All eyes turned to branny We I know they crossed over about 100. Um, there were three type threes. There was a jerky I'm gonna say it was was it a type two?
I never asked that the one that was trying to gouge my face out Yes, he was kind of jerk There's a photo of that by the way, there is a little swear because I was sitting there and I could feel something full in my hair And I said it's something full in my hair and gave him city. Yeah, and so right then mark took a picture took a picture He took the picture. He took the picture and so did everybody and we were like wow, there's something there And then he went and showed it to brandy, which I didn't know when he came back He's like um see this bitch right there. Yeah, and I could just see kind of a streak across my stomach I'm like, oh, hey, there's a streak you go.
Yeah, that's you know a spirit like this with a tan claud in front of your face Punching a punch to you in the face. I don't want to do it one time or another. Yeah, no We plotted them. We gave him a name to what's his name was that the uh, I can't remember So do the name oh Aloys.
Yes, that's right. Aloysius. I came up with random names that night Yeah, and then the types three there was a type three back in there. They're like a bomb shelter.
Then you named him Barnaby Yeah, that was on the old shooting range in the basement That was a pretty cool venue. That was a cool. It smelled like parts of the Caribbean down there. It was awesome Like the Disneyland right parts of the Caribbean.
Yes. It's not like a bunch of drunken pirates No, like the Disneyland right like you could turn the lights off and just sat me there and I would have been happy It smelled like mildewy water then. Yes, it was very mucky. It was really muddy There was the headboards down there that you had one fun.
Um, good luck activity I got I think I got more pictures there with actual like, you know streaks and things in it than I have gotten anywhere I think it's the we've gotten more there from everybody that took pictures than we have on A lot of our recent investigations like we took a lot of pictures at the Rollins Penitentiary and at the Stanley Hotel and you know, Those places are both very active and very very haunted and this building we were in just about everybody that took a picture Got at least four or five pictures at something. My favorite was the one where you can actually see the type three's face Oh, that's right. That would be one. Yes, I sent it to you.
I sent it to twice There's one of just the picture and then the one I circled the face so you know what we're talking about Okay, because I put out an email to the team yesterday to send me all their photos because let's be honest Castle sucks at taking photos at investigations. I do really well audio photos. I get done at the other night think oh Maybe I should take the pictures. Well, see you don't take pictures and you only do audio because you like listening to your voice Damn you.
Well, and you're really good at yourself on pictures You're you're really good at getting ebps too. I've listened to like five hours of audio from that and I've got one Actually, I'm an essentially two ones a good ebp But the other one is a good example of tagging because I thought I got a sentence I listened to it like five or six times and stopped at the end of the sentence and clipped it and saved it and thought whoo And then when I continue like one second later you hear me go there's whispering You know, I it's interesting because of the off-Broadway theater investigation we did back in it was a February or January we did that January January Since since I've been a shut in I have been listening to where she's leaving. Well, that's my perk She needs that horrible diet. She's trying to steal my perk.
She's drinking my diapers. I guess you pay for it Anyway, I'm parched now. She's gonna get cancer too. Probably But listening I got some phenomenal examples of contamination that I will probably play in a future episode I bet we got tons of contamination that saw theirs too as well Well, it's interesting if I find out who these people are if you listen, I love you, but I'm going to kill you But I left a recorder up in the sound booth in here And I like exactly the kind of whispering you don't want on your recordings I was When they first start talking about who's that something because it was kind of the random kind of stuff you sometimes get on ebps But then as it went on it was clearly bodies So I mean if this was you and you know who you are and you're listening If you want an example of how to talk on an investigation just coming out with me for about five minutes Because I'm pretty sure that's how you're gonna be able to handle with me Because I'm a loud talker and I look people straight in the eyes when they whisper and I go whispering for the recording I've actually had people walk away from me after I've done that.
They're like, he's kind of rude One thing that I did notice about maybe we have a new nickname, surly tim Swarly surly tim Now one thing I did notice about my recordings at this undisclosed location is We didn't do at least the groups that I was in at the time of recording. We didn't do any really ebps sessions There's a lot of chit chat and it You know just talking and there's nothing wrong talking about an investigation But we might like keep in mind and even just for me maybe not recording until we're doing an ebps session or having some Times when we're just quiet so we can record stuff and maybe I could just put my recorder in quiet places But we didn't have some a lot of chit chat. Yeah, and I know so I do that too. Like I said, it's I've been a shut in I've actually gone through quite a bit of audio.
I got a really I'm looking at brandy why I say this because she's only one of them Who is there with me when I got this ebp? Brandy caden and the other brandy and I did an investigation here in this city probably a month or two ago And at the time I was making fun of type three spirits. It was more than a weekend Yeah, it was more than a weekend I was making fun of type three spirits because I couldn't understand why they would want to get kicked out of heaven and hang out Someone's basement and I have a crystal clear just as class A's can be ebp go. It's gravy Which I will probably throw either in the end of this episode or maybe I'll save it for another episode Or maybe I'll do both.
Well, they're glutton for punishment. So that makes sense Right, so what other activities you guys get at the old jail? I think for me it was a lot of pictures not very many ebps. Um, we got a lot of flashlight Evidence I got a lot of Touching I actually had a spirit named Susie that for whatever reason glummed onto me and stayed glummed on the whole time We were there.
Um, she crossed though eventually Um, how about you guys? Uh, we did have interaction with the spirit that was talking to Brandy telling us that we didn't belong there That we were trespassing and I had to explain to the guy that uh, you know, we actually signed a waiver said we could be here and you're dead So it doesn't matter what you think Um, and a lot nicer way The guy was the guy was rude to Brandy Um, I know Mark and Alica got they heard some footsteps and they were in the room they were in I was just the two of them and they weren't moving and there was no one above them Uh, but they could hear some footsteps. I know we got some flashlight session going on in the basement as well with Phil Um, I know that a bag of equipment got moved We spent probably a half hour looking for it And when it was finally found it was found in an area that I had just been in like five seconds ago It wasn't there and I ended up losing a flashlight. I don't think I got lost I think it also got carried away, but I never could find it.
It's gone Gone after buying a new mag like some kind of stuff. Yeah, I mean, I went to and by the way I bought mag like filters for everybody so you can have blue and red mag like Yeah I need a mag like for it to go with since Red and blue. Um, so anything else is interesting happens that pretty investigation Um, I know that was one where Tim uh, broadcast some of the investigation live Um Onto facebook and that may be something that we do more of in the future We made periscope or do some live facebook I did the best I could we were in the basement at the time I was trying to broadcast live And my connection was not that great and it could have been a combination of like, you know, the crappy city we were in Lovey price and uh It's some reveals the location of the investigation. I said it on the the Life E2 So if you watch the light feed well then In a way, the old price jail is what they're talking about since it's out there.
Um, I don't know how confidentially wanted it to be or not I don't think that was just a decision we made E regardless it's being torn down. It wasn't it wasn't a non-disclosure waiver it was um If you die, you can't do this I read the waiver they didn't say anything we couldn't say anything about where it was so it was just like Uh, don't get hurt and there was like five paragraphs of if you get hurt It's not our fault and then the very last very short one was like don't ruin our building that we're turning down Okay, so there was one funny thing so I took a peach I ate my peach So I had this pit and I'm walking around trying to find a garbage can to put my fit in And part of me thought their turn building down to sit the pit anywhere because it doesn't really matter to turn it down But there's that part of me that's like not just go put in trash can I could not find a trash can anywhere carried it around for like An hour came back up through a room and they're doing an option They they could say they had a bunch of equipment sitting around with some signs out They said just you know make sure you don't tear the signs off because we're doing an option of some of this equipment So I go into this room where they'd staged a lot of stuff and there's like 30 It's like there's all the garbage cans all of them So I got to take my pick of which garbage can to put the pit in because they were all there Oh, you're really option Just the one garbage can just one or they make it a better price because the It's gonna be fine. Oh, she's gonna make a peach tree kit. I saved in like 12 bucks by the tree it people.
There you go Um, we do have some investigations coming up that we will probably talk about our next podcast Did you ever residentially want to talk about? Yeah, kind of you remember the residential I talked about the last podcast where I said There was a kind of a simpering female and a semi-pissy male that wouldn't stay in a photo I said a lot going on and made a dreamcatcher spin podcast listener remember because they think we're also After listening to some audio we did get an audio of the male saying leave me alone So I talked to the homeowner called her back and said and I think I might want to do a time into a cleansing So we're actually gonna go back to that home and do a cleansing this week sometime. Oh good. So Excuse me, I clear my throat.
Um other than that It's been kind of quite because I haven't actually not scheduled anything because of the whole surgery thing So here's something that's our podcast listeners that do this, but I have gotten We've gotten two requests for residentials and in the request It says please contact us by email and so I have replied back to you to send you know And I've not got any feedback. So If you send in or if your friends send in for us to do a request You know, make sure they're serious about it You know, it's been one interesting thing with this whole investigation thing that I find kind of fascinating I know that you run into this a lot since I have you scheduled a lot of the residentials But we'll get people sometimes will contact us. Oh my gosh Satan's having a Satan's general conference in my living room and this is not in the Exaggeration by the way, no, this is actually part of what was Lee said, you know and kids are levitating off the bed Yeah, I can't enter my house without speaking watton, you know, and I need somebody here now You know and so you call them up and you're like, hey, we can be there tomorrow. Oh, well tomorrow's not good.
We're going camping. Um, how does Wednesday the 29th sound three weeks from now, you know, and then you get that scheduled in like Tuesday the night before we have a thing so we are going to see if we can push that back to Four more weeks from now, if that's okay Which always kind of I find curious because like how bad is your problem? And how bad do you want help if you keep what if it's the type three channeling through them at the time and they keep you scheduling That is the possibility that sucks to be them No, and I did have one with a gentleman scheduled an appointment and then his family was not okay with it and that's fine Yeah, we've had a couple of those work. They wanted to do it and then one family member's been really Adamly against it and so they've so I get their things but I would say please discuss it with the your entire adult's household Make sure it's something to follow through on because I get weirded out if there's No closure things.
All right, so My show of hands since everybody who's listening can see our hands Who has gone and seen conjuring to yet? I have not what get out wait you you set up the itinerary for us to discuss the movie Well, because I saw that I know that you guys had I just haven't had time. It's been a crazy couple weeks Well, then are you gonna leave the room? No spoiler spoilers.
I don't care. I'm gonna see it The movie's been out for a month if you haven't seen it by now then it sucks to be spoilers I got a chuckle though because and there are spoilers if you haven't seen it and you really care about spoilers Spoilers too bad keep listening don't turn off the show because we're awesome Leave the room now The one part of the show that kind of bugged me just a little bit and I know it's for moviegoers who were like unfamiliar with and wearing warm But the whole premonition of Ed's death That was that was the level of reaction of the theater like I actually thought Ed was gonna die and I'm like, I don't know He died in 2003 heard five. I can't remember. I want to say later than that.
He doesn't six We talked about this in the day. He had a stroke in 2003 and then he passed away in 2006 So like the movie takes place in the 70s and people were actually like concerned that Ed Warren was gonna die in the movie I'm like no silly it had many good years ahead of him And so that part of the movie I thought was a little fun but fun in the fact I had to chuckle at people's reactions when they saw the the premonition coming true and I'm like no he's not gonna die Um This is brandy gets premonitions. Well depends on the premonition. I said the people's reaction was scary Yeah, that reminds me of it.
You know, let's talk about that for just a second. Um, what was it about roughly two years ago? You had that premonition slash three it was in January of last year. Okay, so about 18 months ago So tell us about your premonition slash three in the head ready Well, sorry, I'm eating so I told Tim the slobwhis worm.
Oh, you walk home I'll tell you that I had a premonition dream that I was Speaking in Spanish and I was choking out castle at the same time in somebody's residential investigation And I guess later on it happened. I don't remember that part of it. It happened at family tree What was interesting is I was the because I know I relayed the dream on the castle after she told me about it and Uh when castle told me what happened to me because I was in the basement at the time When she started trying to choke out castle. I'm like, that's exactly like her dream that she told me about like a year ago Yeah, mine is the the Spanish but there was no Spanish But there was her choking.
We're trying to choke him out and I thought it was interesting that like it was probably a good Year leader that uh after she had the dream that I actually kind of came true You know, there is something to premonitions in certain dreams not all dreams but certain dreams And I think we're gonna talk about that in a few trepis. So in fact, we were gonna talk about last episode But we went long um and tonight when again asked what we wanted to talk about I said We're not talking about that we're gonna talk about the little mentals which we're gonna get into here in just a minute Um, but anyway back to conjuring Enfield case, which is what conjuring to is based off of um, it was actually a fascinating case they called it uh Britain's Amityville, um and it basically consisted of the single mom Uh, two daughters who basically had polterdis activity going on in the home. Uh, it's considered one of the most well documented Paranormal cases ever. Uh, there's photographs of one of the daughters levitating.
Um, there's a photograph of one of the curtains swirling up Unnaturally on its own They got audio recordings of uh the entity there in the home talking through One of the girls, uh, you can actually go here that in youtube and it's actually at the end of the movie you can hear some of that audio Um, the actual audio I actually have and after this episode airs so people can actually find it I have a website bookmarked that has Interviews with the girls when they were the younger and uh, that also has the photos of her levitating Which in my opinion, uh, when you're looking at the photos, it looks like she's just jumping off of her bed Um, it does not look like it would be her levitating at all just the body position of the movement and they have They have four photos It's two of them are like when she first started and when she was landing in both of them on two separate occasions And in all the photos, it looks like she's just jumping off the bed Right and it's an infill-dunitioning case that's one that actually started looking at I actually started studying the infill case Back about 94 95, uh, as when I first started, you know, listening to recordings and stuff the photographs And so it's kind of neat to see make a movie about it One thing that I thought was interesting and I think everybody in this room is gonna agree with me though Well, except for Dan because she doesn't see the movie Um The movie was almost a textbook uh example of uh type three demonic entity controlling a type two entity Uh to kind of make it do its bidding The spirit to identify itself through the girl talking in a deep graph male's voice Identify himself as Bill Wilkins, uh, which was a gentleman who had died in their apartment Uh several years prior to them moving in um So is this something that was attached to the home? Uh kind of um so yes and and no I mean the uh bill Wilkins Um, I don't know if he was actually the spirit that was there Uh for the movie purposes. Yes bill Wilkins was there and he wasn't actual He was the guy that lived in the house before them and he did die in their chair like that's all true Um The what the activity started happening and they they touched on this in the movie Um and and the research that I've done it was shortly after the girls started playing with a weedy board Okay, nasa. It's the arrow board Same thing They made a weedy board and played with the bedroom or spirit boards potato potato Tom was talking to demons Talking to the devil.
Um Anyway, uh and then on top of that the girl was about I can't remember her exact age But 11 kind of right on that verge of puberty puberty And that's it's not a common for puller guys to be to focus on somebody right about that same age um, and so it's kind of a perfect storm if you will of uh of things coming together to Create this perfect situation for this these things to happen now There's stress in the home too like the they were being bullied at school mainly her little brother because um, I believe he did have a stutter That part of the movie is also true. Uh, there was there's bullying going on the family So just just a whole combination of things that single mom financial stress um Just a whole lot of combinations of things that are Common when we come into when we come into these cases you'll find a lot of those kind of things I'll be some kind of stressor in the family and then the spirit board. Yeah, and basically What happened is the girls invited in a type three spirit, uh and with bill wilkins there still in the home, uh, that spirit used bill basically to Tera to terrorize the family and identify itself as bill wilkins Um, and we see that a lot when we go into homes a lot of times you'll see a human spirit that is being manipulated by Uh an evil or demonic spirit to basically do a lot of the activity Um, it's not real common to find a type two spirit that isn't working with, uh, a type three spirit You know another thing I found interesting in the movie is um luring Warren when she got to the house Uh, you know, she has a gifted medium, but she wasn't able to sense anything in the house Like she couldn't see the spirit she couldn't hear them like she normally could Um, and it's later revealed in the movie that the type three was actually blocking her abilities And you know as if I was just we're gonna move you go and I wasn't into the paranormal I'd probably be like, you know, that's kind of great for the movie and all but having witnessed it firsthand at your cousin's house Yeah, but brandy got blocked there brandy was blocked and she couldn't sense The type two or the type three that was in the home. I was actually I found the type two before anybody else did And uh, you know, I've seen brandy boo though who also worked with us get blocked Uh, in fact there was a period of time back around christmas where she was blocked almost entirely Uh for a period of time.
Um, and so it does happen Um, as far as personal criticism of the movie go Uh, if I would have to give it a critique I don't know that I liked that the type three look like Marilyn Manson dressed in an unsuit Um, you know what I find fascinating is uh, before peaches actually went saw the movie We I was showing her some of the photos and video of the interviews and whatnot and she confirmed that uh There was a demonic in the house and I said what it looked like and she without having seen the movie Or any of the posters or anything. I just thought yesterday. Yeah, she just read this other movie yesterday She actually described to me almost exactly what the type three in the movie looked like really so the actual I'm I don't know if they talked to lorraine and Only they did that. What's what I like, you know, what she said she saw but like I said she was blocked So I don't know how much she actually did see for the movie.
I don't know like I didn't research that part in real life But um the type three that she that peaches saw in the photographs looked almost exactly like the type three that they portrayed in the movie I'm guessing if it was that close that they probably did go with uh raine's description then of what it looked like Uh another part that I really haven't been able to get much out of research wise Uh, but wasn't the movies I don't know that I particularly liked the tie between amityville and And feel like they didn't move. We had a tie that type three and from one case to the other Yeah, I think that was for cinematic purpose. I think so um, but again, I I can always guarantee it wasn't the same demonic spirit that was terrorizing the two families Right, I just haven't looked at the case and haven't had a chance to look at the actual case record with all the information I do know that there was a couple occasions that not all the evidence that was provided as actual evidence The the girls did admit to having faked some of the possessions or not Uh, there's no doubt in my mind that there was a spirit there Um, just some of the stuff that I've read and I've seen in the pictures and on the interviews Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind that they actually had a demonic spirit But the girls did admit to faking some of it because I think they did like some of the attention they were getting Um, that's why I believe just looking at the pictures of the levitation But I think that was some of the things that they did fake and in all honesty I mean, we've seen that in real cases too where we've seen Real stuff but in the same home we've had stuff that's made up Uh, in fact in particular comes to mind the case that we did early on Uh, where they sent us this ghost picture, which was way too good That was my first residential if you guys it was way too good And uh, you know, Brandy's looking at it she goes, I'm seeing energy cells But anyway went to the house we did find stuff and we got evidence of stuff This is where you actually saw a hand didn't you? Yeah, actually saw a hand reach out and touch the flashlight in the flashlight Actually, oddly heard the spirit that was in the closet aiming myself or I was thinking the master bedroom when we both heard the I heard that too, uh, suzan was her name.
Um, and she had committed suicide if I remember right Um, was miserable. I mean, you could just she was palpable in the room But one of the kids there had actually made this photograph Uh using an app, uh, to try and convince people there's a ghost in the house What there really was but again, it's fake evidence and that's sad thing about that though It makes it so hard, uh, you know, I mean, we we cheat, can we have Brandy and she can actually see these things first hands when we go in We know what's real and what's not but From let's say you if you didn't have a brand if you're just a team that didn't really have somebody with any abilities, uh, you know, it kind of destroys the credibility of those individuals when they provide evidence that is not real when it's faked Well, see, and when we first looked at the picture like, uh, for me, I was just I'd have, you know, always been, uh, excited about the paranormal. I've always been interested in it This was like the very first residential case I've ever been on and I was somewhat inexperienced When I came to looking at photos, but since we've gone back and looked at that same photo Like it's easy now for me and some of our more experienced investigators to look at that and Actually point out, uh, reasons why that particular photo is fake Where part of it is like, uh, the spirits, you know, in the doorway of the bathroom coming into the bedroom And the spirit looks like it's supposed to be in the bathroom But you can see her shoulder on the outside of the wall instead of like where it should be blocked by the doorway Right and then on the other part of that is you look at it and again She's supposed to be like he was laying on a couch like so I'm adding something along ways on the couch And you've got the armrest the spirit was also in front of the armrest of the couch But you know the way it was positioned to look like again, it was supposed to have been in the doorway of the bathroom So you can like I said just looking at the picture now like it's it's obvious to tell that it's a fake And I've actually had people at work too that you know, they'd say oh my brother I'm not took these pictures and shut them to me and I just looked at them and I'm like I hate to break it to you Like these are all fake. I got the app on my phone.
I mean she was like none of these are real Like I'd like try to argue with me and I'm like okay. Well, I'm like if you believe in that's great But this is my opinion well and we've all had a few of those and we've all had a few cases where you know something They provided, you know, I've had we've had clients that uh, you know, are there are friends and we've seen activity at their homes But at the same time they'll send us stuff like oh, you see this, you know, I'm ready to look at she's like yeah, that's nothing you know, it's kind of lead you to believe are they Making photos now because we kind of dealt with it. Yeah, you're looking for attention or my advice would be at that point is like yeah If we have confirmed that they're just being your home and you want to coexist with them great In my personal opinion, I'm sure Cass will probably disagree with me on this one But I would say just ignore them leave them alone Um, they're not gonna do anything to you. You don't do anything to them They'll just kind of coexist.
They might let you know every now and then they're there I mean I this is me speaking for personal experience because I do have a spirit in my home And I don't try to communicate with her just because I don't want to open that possibility that another spirit might be like oh Look what he's doing there. I want to be on the two. I want it So I mean let's bring my house every now and then she'll poke me or she'll jump on the bed or she'll hit you know, she'll say hi to me Uh, she doesn't think my dad she'll open a closest bedroom door Um, so I just I just ignore them. I don't try to find evidence that you know, she's there so I can show people You know, I every now and then all the knowledge that she's there I'll say hi to her but I don't actually try to investigate my own home Uh, and I mean if you don't have anything bad in your home I would say you should probably just do the same just kind of coexist with him and just like don't make it a habit or a daily Exercise of trying to communicate the spirits in your home and I would actually agree with that Uh, you know, we've talked about type one type two and type three spirits If you get a type two or type three spirit your home, you're gonna want to get rid of everyone I want to send a pack and uh if you get a type one spirit your home what should be honest with you if you're listening to me You probably do have some in your home It's actually more rare not to find spirits in a home than it is to find spirits Uh, but most type one spirits are pretty innocuous.
They just kind of hang out do their thing. They don't bother you, you know, even in my own home I have got five Um, and I'm okay with it being here because you know occasionally here little kids laugh Um or this or that or the other Occasionally I'll say hi, but you know, I don't actively pull out tools and try and get vp's here in my own home But again, they don't bother us and so we don't bother them that actually reminds me of a story I don't know if I talked about this lab pod last podcast that I talked about the maple sturd again Hmm. I don't know but I don't I think people would be okay hearing it again. Okay.
Anyway, uh about It's probably about three weeks ago now. Um, I was getting ready to go to work and uh, mrs. Castle. I think was at work Um And my kids were downstairs and so I like how she struck their shoulders like I don't know Yeah, mrs.
Castle's in here. Let's just record. Um, we should mike her up She shakes her head vigorously now. She can be a silent mrs.
Castle. I do have the guest microphone. We can set you up, uh She's good. Um, she's really silent.
She's more silent and silent on uh Anyway, so I started to get ready for work and we've been working on a painting project here in the house And so there's a couple of those roller like paint roller extension handles kicking around the house And we just got new computer desks and so on of our old computer desks is still in the master bedroom We need to move it out. We have to disassemble it because it's kind of humongous Um, and so I went downstairs to get some clothes. I could go up and hop in the shower And as I went upstairs, uh one of these paint handles and it wasn't even in the room. I don't know how it got there But it was like kind of propped across the doorway into the bathroom.
That's kind of weird And I'd run back out and grab something. I came in and my the keyboard drawer on the desk was pulled all the way out Uh when I came back the second time, uh, it's kind of weird too so I pushed it back in and You know and stuff like this happens periodically. Uh, so not too worried about it I got in the bathroom and I just got done drinking a diapepsy because it's delicious Um, not really and I set the empty can on the bathtub, but I'm editing the bathtub Now my master bathroom has got a separate bathtub shower They're completely separate. It's like a jacuzzi tub and then next to it's an actual shower and so they're like different things They're not one connected.
Oh, she gets to see my grand hand gestures as I try and explain this. Okay, you gotta keep going Whoa, calm down there trigger I turned the shower and I went for the water to get hot and as I turn the shower I see my shower and get pushed in like three feet into the shower like way in there Okay, and so took a shower hopped out was drying off was nowhere near the bathtub And also the Pepsi can go swoop in from there to the bathtub into the bathtub So I'm like, okay, that's like four things in like 15 minutes And so at that point I sat around you text. I'm like, hey, could you have any come like Snoop around my house and see what's up. See if I'm trying to get my attention And I turned out that Mabel who's one of the spirits was at the end's house that I've currently come down and paid a visit and was Being a little prankster.
Well, it's funny because at my house She's actually pretty quiet. I can feel her climb on the bed and sometimes I can feel her play with my hair I think sometimes I just am used to her and so I don't notice her as much But after Castle told me that story it was I don't know Maybe a week later and I was sitting at my desk listening to this and me please and I set my headphones down And they were set in a way that they weren't gonna wiggle and I was just sitting there kind of staring at them Just thinking about whatever it was I was doing Thinking about how you suck up on any of these yes, probably And they kind of sat up It wasn't like they were sitting and they settled and kind of kinked down They lifted up and I thought huh and it took me a minute to get my phone to get my camera Because I thought I wonder if that's Mabel or if If she and castles ghosts come back and forth now and play with whoever they feel at the moment So I heard it took a picture of it whoever I missed him And so anyway The point of all those long stories is you know if you get a type one spring house, you may see things here and there But I wouldn't sweat it unless you've got most people are getting terrified at night and things are in your house. It was a key I wouldn't sweat it Back a little bit about fabricating evidence because I know we talked about that just briefly So overall the country was a good movie. I'd say definitely go see it.
Oh, yeah I'm not the far rambling review of the country I don't know if I like this much as the first one, but I thought it was really good It wasn't a scary, but it was just for me as an investigator It was just so close to like what we actually do and how spirits actually operate as far as the hierarchy I definitely see the first one was a lot more scary. So if you're gonna get scared go see the first one Rent it whatever the second one, uh, if you're looking to see like what we actually do That's probably the closest movie I've seen to what we actually deal with Did you ever see the picture the guy who played Maurice the guy with the mustache the British guy You're see pictures of what the real one look like? Yeah, so the website I'm gonna link actually it's it's a Hollywood something or other Exactly website, but it does real versus real So like the movie versus what actually happened So it did side by side pictures of all the characters and they're the actual people and it did show that they could not have cast that guy better He was perfect thought on it could have been a doppelganger That guy looked like a twin Um, but I did want to talk a touch more about fabricating evidence There's an individual who's named my shelby frame from naming who used to run a group here in Utah that a name very similar to ours Um, who chunked in those guys actually used to work with until they caught him fabricating evidence on public ghost hunts Um, and he has kind of become a pariah among the paranormal community However, he still builds himself as mr. Para normal to a lot of outside groups Uh, like there was a science fiction con that he was gonna go do talks on ghosts and Uh, we periodically get emails asking if we'll come do stuff as him not realizing that we're a different group Um, but I'm more than happy to let those individuals know that that gentleman is a heck Uh, I think we recently got an email someone thinking we were him asking us if we're gonna be in Kansas that we can Right, uh, you know, and he still travels around But again once you start fabricating evidence, uh, your credibility is shot Speaking of fabricating evidence, there's that video I posted recently on our facebook page That's a perfect example of someone fabricating evidence Um, I like I said, like I said in the comments on the video when I posted it I personally will not post a video or an EVP of anything that I if I question it at all Uh, I'll get advice or opinions of several investigators before I will post it if I have any doubts that it's legitimate evidence Yeah, this guy what he did has he set up a a little basketball like a little rubber kid's basketball on his stairs And almost immediately when he said hey, can you move the ball the ball goes flying off the stairs And the guy just kind of like sort of freaked out like he was scared, but not really Well, the best part about that particular one because I've seen that video that you posted is the camera turns just as the ball shoots off Yeah, I'm always weary about that too like when people are recording videos of you know, supposedly activity in their house and the camera always seems to point at the right Spot at the right time or just pans away just at the right time Like I've been I've been filming for two years now That's when I bought my first camera and I've never been that lucky to where I happen to point the camera at the right place at the right time I've got hundreds of hours of video and there's it's just damn near possible to get the camera in the right spot at the right time Well, an EVP is in particular.
I mean unless You know, you have something where it might be contamination I mean an EVP is an EVP and EVP is are so easy to get I don't understand why anyone would try and fabricate an EVP because they're not hard to To get probably that's how hours of videos of ping-pong balls and all sorts of balls trying to get them to move And waiting for me to jump in with the dirty joke there, but she didn't I've got plenty of video balls laugh out loud. It's fine. This is castles like She's trying to explode She's putting silent on to shame I've filmed several things like trying to get them to flashlights just all sorts of things And I have yet to get anything moving on video so to get something like that guy got is it's in my opinion is damn near possible I haven't even seen anything move in real life. I mean on an investigation and most of us.
I know I've seen flashlight draw Had the block tossed at me. I mean, I've heard things move. I've seen them. I've seen them I've seen things like I've seen things like I've seen things like you know That are in places that they weren't when I was in the room before like so things obviously were moved But I didn't actually see them getting I say but you know seeing things move to knowing things move We've all experienced it to some extent like you said to actually get it on camera.
That's like the perfect trifecta of If I ever get something moving on camera, I'm gonna sell that shit to somebody Like any and that oh in the box Charles guy moving the box and that is actually on our YouTube page or not our YouTube page on our if you go to wisps.org under our Under our media under videos. There is videos that moving that box I linked it from the pod gob one youtube page directly to our web page speaking of which I'm starting to get new evidence up for 2016 So go check out our page over the next couple weeks. You should see new e dps new photos All that stuff should be showing up in one of these days I'll have new video for the last two years You know the best part about this whole podcast tonight is we're gonna talk about elementals And we're almost out of elementals We have the end print up itinerary for us every week We follow the first two things on it and then the rest of us kind of like You know, that's okay. I think it was like three things lined up man I'm good.
You know what though we do have a few minutes. So do you guys want to talk about elementals at all or you know what we can start on it Um, there's so much to talk about elementals, but we can kind of touch on it briefly And if you've got questions, maybe you can send in the questions and we can Focus on some of the listener questions that we get, you know what let's hold off on on the toast because all righty Tim just threw something at me and reminded me I decided on your hand. I'm gonna throw that was $250 I'm gonna throw it on throw. Don't even Brand new so um, um, Tim Found it.
Where did you find us? You know, I was after doing live broadcast I decided I wanted to see if I could get like a night vision camera for my phone And the first thing that popped up was the FLIR 1 and the FLIR website itself The FLIR 1 is a thermal camera that they have made for FLIR FLIR is a company that makes thermal cameras like high-end thermal cameras. FLIR is the company that makes High-end thermal cameras. So I don't even know another brand to be honest with you.
I'm sure there is another brand to be They're like the premier company for thermal cameras. It's kind of like when you To give you an idea what FLIR is when you say craft macaroni and cheese, I mean even if it's not craft It's just craft macaroni and cheese. Like is your oxygen machine? Like is your oxygen machine even though it's a cannon or FLIR is kind of that to thermal cameras.
Uh, FLIR is Kind of what you call it. You call it a camera, even if it's not a FLIR brand. Like Sony have electronics like Sony's just every other time. I've got another one.
I've got another Levi's. There you go. Exactly. We could play this game all night.
So so so so FLIR is like the Levi's of thermal cameras anyway, so Uh, I know a couple years ago they did come out with a thermal camera case for the iPhone 5 and the iPhone 5s Which was great if you owned that particular phone Which is a problem because like iPhone or Samsung or anybody else comes out with a new phone model like every three and a half months And so if you buy a phone case three and a half months or now it's gonna be the wrong side So what FLIR has done now is they actually have two models one is for androids and one is for apple For good phones? Yeah for apple um for iPhones They're all good. They all make phone calls and they all contact the people you want them to Um, so it actually plugs into the same port that your phone charger plugs into So either the USB port or the lightning port depending on which flavor phone you have So and and with my phone I actually have an HTC so when I first got it, I was all excited and plugged it in and I'm like oh great I can take thermal selfies I had to buy an adapter that actually makes it so I can turn my camera around and face the correct direction Which by the way, FLIR if you have that problem through phone, you can contact FLIR and they will send you an adapter for free Why don't I have this horrible vision in my mind of tintaking naked FLIR selfies? Yeah about that I know it So I may have some second ability So it's actually it's $250 you can buy it from FLIR from their website But I also did find it on Amazon and it is available for Amazon Prime So if you did want it for free to day shipping you can get it on Amazon both both models Uh is it cheaper on Amazon or the same price?
You know the the Apple version I believe was actually like $10 cheaper. The Android version I believe was the same price Uh, but yeah, you can get it if if you have prime you can get it on Amazon You can get the free to day shipping otherwise I purchased mine on sunday last week and it showed up on friday So and so can you record and stuff with it on? Yes, you can actually you download their app. It's the FLIR one app which is free You can actually you can actually take video or you can take stills What I'm gonna try to do because we talked a little bit about the live feed on facebook or possibly in periscope I'm gonna play around a little bit and see if I can actually get the FLIR to work with one of those apps So we can actually do live broadcast using the thermal camera Yeah, because I think that would be pretty cool I don't know what you guys think about that if you want to send me an email tim at whisk.org or beaker It was not org I don't get to me But I'd like to hear your ideas or thoughts on that if you'd like to see stuff like that I can't guarantee it's gonna work right now because I haven't really played around with it too much But that's something I'm gonna look to doing in the future I'm gonna try to do more live broadcasts so you can kind of see how we investigate if you're not able to make it with us or I probably won't be doing residential investigations We like to keep those private but some of our more public events if you're not able to join you might be able to you know Tune in on facebook and you know kind of watch us live We have a public private semi-public investigation july tonight if we may try it that night And so we'll see how that ends up.
Oh wait Tim's not gonna be there No, but you can do it Come here phone. We will try that. Anyone any of the admins on the wist page can log into that and broadcast is us So there's a possibility. I'd probably stay around 10 maybe 11 o'clock at night It won't be flier, but we will try and do some uh Yeah, I would let you borrow this but it doesn't work with your crappy phone You mean the microphone now the crappy phone you got?
But yeah, we might we might in the future be trying to do some more live broadcast It probably won't be very long But uh, it's definitely something that we're looking into possibly doing and those who are interested in this flier thing By the way, keep in mind. This is a $250 phone attachment, um, which is a good price because a low end actual Fermi or camera if their lowest end model starts around $900 And then to do actual steals and video recording you're looking at the $3,000 plus range three to $6,000 I think the video you're looking at like $10,000 just do the still pictures You can get down to you can still get the $3,000 range. I've looked into it I just it's one of those things I kind of look at and go it was like one of those but I'll never get one Yeah, I've been looking at thermal cameras wanting to buy one of those and they're investigating and they finally they've I mean They didn't make it for investigators There's a lot of practical home uses like you can find leaks and like your tubs and whatnot or your windowsails and stuff like that So there's a lot of practical uses for it outside of the paranormal world But I bought mine specifically for paranormal investigating because I'm a nerd that way and again for $250 That's actually a really good price with a lot of the features that are only available on some of the more spending models And the video quality is actually really good What what is the resolution you know the resolution is off top of your hand? I'm not on top of my head.
No, but I did watch several YouTube videos comparing the flier to some of the other Uh, phone attachments out there that are made by other brands And basically everyone said the same thing that the the flier had the best video quality out of all the ones that they've used The only drawback and in my opinion, it's a it's a bonus for me Uh, the camera itself has its own battery pack built into it. So I mean you do have to charge it Uh, which means it's running itself. It's maintaining its own power. It's not draining your phone as well Which is funny because I heard some people complaining about that, but I look at it's the fact that it's not like you said draining your phone Yeah, I think that's I think that the wind in my book.
Yeah, it sounds like more phone time and more uh, uh, uh, Uh, camera time this thing's very compact if it's in the palm of my hand Yeah, I would say it's probably a hair bigger than maybe a matchbox car Uh, but not much bigger than a matchbox car Boy that sure dates me doesn't matchbox cars. I used to play with matchbox No, they just don't make those I worked at target back in 2000. We sold matchbox and caught wheels and all that stuff. Yeah 16 years ago.
Yeah Anyway, we will call that for show tonight. Um, next time we will talk about elementals. I promise Um, just a quick teaser what an elemental is basically is it's a type of inhuman spirit Um, they usually have got some real sort of specific properties Uh, there's specific ways to deal with them. Um, and I think we run into almost every kind You know our investigation there if you go on the internet, uh, and look at all mental you're gonna get a lot of world Warcraft links, um, a lot Well, and I actually there's something you don't think they are until you've read like three pages and then it tells you about how Then finally they use the word game.
It's like god dammit Thanks for watching out like a page note. Hey, to be honest, we've done a lot of research on these, um, which is incredibly difficult because You get into some really bizarre stuff when you start talking about mentals. You know, it's like fairies and Leprechauns and weird crap that I don't believe in. Um, that's the cool creatures.
Exactly. If I were to sum up, oh, go ahead But if you kind of dig below the fluff, um, and the mythical creatures and the fairies and the leprechauns and the garden domes Um, there actually is some good information in there and we will train to steal it down in our next episode Uh and talk about them, but some of the sites are like, oh, some are positive, some are negative They're pretty much all negative. Uh, I don't think I've ever run into anything that inhuman that is not negative. Um, that's just the nature of Inhuman.
I want to see with you a little bit at our next podcast But not today. So this is a great letter. Fine. We'll disagree later.
We'll disagree for the next two weeks Let's let's plug some stuff, shall we? Oh, yes pluggings. Let's plug the you know, obviously radio Ronin Go listen to them because they're awesome bacon cell bacon cell. We've got Greg's guide to new music Uh to the park hopper, whatever the rename there show to park hoppers.
We've got life on the rocks, please Which is a bunch of raunchy ladies talking about awesome things from what I hear. Yes, um, Runcast the runcast and the addicted athlete. I believe those are both hosted by uh, our good friend Josh Hansen. Are we prepared yet?
Also hosted by Josh and um, and we got them all I think so if we've left anybody out, I'm sorry level 22 We don't love you. Oh, yeah, it's almost right. Oh, it's somebody shows now. It's hard to plug them all Um speaking of plugging.
We just got a pod to bash listen to the whisper show and ignore the rest of them. Thank you. Yes Uh also real quick. Do you want to talk about the paranormal festival?
Yes, I would love to talk about the paranormal festival save the date october 1st It's one day only. Uh, we'll be going from 12 noon to 9 p.m Um There will be a lot of guest speakers there. I believe last time I mentioned Scott grandma will be there That was actually incorrect information. Uh, I was told Scott is not coming this year.
Oh, it's too bad Um, if that changes again, I will let you know what is right now. Uh, Paul and Dan Welch told me that Scott's not coming this year That's too bad. Scott for those who don't know Scott was on paranormal paparazzi He's about a 55 year old man who often wears a pink tutu and a Hello Kitty shirt and runs around with ukulele and as weird as that sounds He's actually pretty awesome guy. He gave me a lot of good advice last year Before I knew who he was.
I wanted to whack as ukulele across his head because it was really annoying He's one of those guys who just uncomfortable being a goofball that he does it just for shock value And he's really fun They actually put out a map of the conference center today. I saw that a lot of the booths that are still available There's probably about four booths left and looking at the map. There's there's gonna be I want to say 60 booths there like there's a lot that makes me come by ours because we're gonna have swag We're gonna have swag we actually talked about a little bit before the podcast of what we're gonna have Stories. Yes, so and there's also been talks Bags of pea Keep pea from his catheter.
It's only three months. Oh, please don't do that I'm gonna do it. It's a castle or dry heaving Throw up on your couch. Um, there is a pea for everyone.
There has been talks of Us doing a live broadcast there at the paranormal convention as well I don't know if that's gonna happen or not But it is entirely possible thanks to all of you that chipped in and donated for a new portable computer You know what we are going to live broadcast there one way or another it will happen Now what's interesting and just for their plug this particular convention is this will be the third year in a row that there's been a Paranormal convention in Utah The first one was at the Maverick Center and it was incredibly mediocre It's actually where I met him in brandy was it first one. That's why it was awesome And it was to be honest with you the venue hall itself was probably only Maybe six times the size of this room. It wasn't very big And to be honest with you it wasn't bad. I mean that's investigations planned different locations each night The attendance was not awesome, but the event itself was actually pretty decent Then last year's was I can only describe last year's as I'm gonna get a disaster It was really bad.
The venue was not air conditioned and so it was really muggy I think the second day they had one paying guest and 11 paying guests the previous evening And they had vendors that were selling stuff that the venue was selling But like a 300 markup and so I could either go by the corpse from the vendor table for five dollars or I could go by it for a dollar 50 At grand hallow, which is where it was held at. Um, it was just last year's was not good. However, this year it is being organized and run by different individuals So it should be bloody fantastic. I think I said there's been a lot of planning involved There's been a lot of fundraising involved to make things happen.
Um, it actually looks like it's gonna be amazing It was a little off on the booth cap. Not quite sexy. It looks like it's 40 close to 40 But that's still quite a bit that's still considering more than the last one. I think it's a lot bigger than the first one too.
I think some of the issues with First two though is I don't think uh, I don't think their advertising was that great? I don't think they really got the word out and I mean when you hear paragon is it paranormal? Is it parallimpics? Is it paragliding?
I don't think it really explains what it is. Uh, this year they've named it, uh, the Utah Paranormal Festival Which is very clearly states what it is and I think there's enough buzz out there That's gonna be a great event this year so on October 1st a market near counters. I'll continue posting Information about the festival, but again, this is being held on cover first. Like I said from noon to nine It's gonna be the Karen Gell Miller Conference Center in sandy Utah the address there is 9750 South 300 West Number 150 e tickets will be $10 if you purchase them in advance 15 at the door And if I remember correctly, I believe those kids under 12 are free and by the way those ticket prices are Phenomenal compared to what they were last year's I think last year's they were 30 and they were before they were 60 I think so But I know the first year they had a couple different packages because you could buy like the gold package They got you in and got you on the investigation Right those ones are expensive, but again, there were investigations involved They know which made it not quite so bad I know that they've been doing a lot of fundraising investigations and it looks like there is one coming up I believe the end of this month july 22nd Uh, it looks like there's a investigation at the Benson Grissomel And I will post information on that one.
I like what they do with this these fundraisers because I'll do like right here It says $25 per person, but if you buy two tickets you save $10 you get them for 40 bucks So yeah, and they're doing these rock bottom just to try and get in as much Uh, as many people as they can. Yeah, I can reasonably. I mean they're actually gonna have a good investigation But they're again trying to raise funds for this. Um, and all the money they raise for these investigations is going straight to the paranormal festival They're not pocketing any of this money.
They're making zero money off of these right This is going for the cost of renting the venue the cost of getting speakers and panelists there to the venue Um, anyway, we hope to see some of you guys come on out. It should be a good time Like I said, we're gonna record their we're gonna do live podcast. Um, so I know I will be there uh, castle will be there We'll make D&B there. I believe peaches will be out of town.
I'm gonna be there I'm gonna be depends on what time I flight like I might be able to show for a few Calling a bomb threat should cancel that flight peaches will be there Um, and I don't know what lurch is we're just gonna run a bomb threat. I'm gonna like, yeah, I'm not gonna like it Uh, I don't know what lurch is works. It'll be like but uh, he may or may not be there But you know, you can always come down meet meet us if you haven't already or you can stop by and say hi on the podcast Can ask us questions come tell us how bad he is. Maybe we'll use my idea to have autographed photos I still want to get my photo from our photo shoot last year.
Have I not said this to you? No, that's an idea. We're kidding Maybe now that I'm a shot in with a bag of pee. I have to do that Shoot, I'm gonna ask people if that's something that would be interested in shoot castle on email and let them know what like you're like P No, no, no, but peaches just said the autographed photos like we did that photo shoot See if people might be interested in purchasing like an autographed photo for like a dollar or something like that Let us know like email castle and then give him all your email.
How do you think that's a good idea or if it's a good idea email me And again, if you want to email any of us. It's castle with stud org Dien it was stud org peaches with stud org or tint with stud org or beaker with stud org or lurch at west I think the pattern Even a son with don't it was stud org and he won't ever check it. So don't ever ever do you do? Yes, w tim the slob was bird.
Oh, you know, I can actually make the whole phrase that was stud org I'm gonna do that tonight. That's how my list of things to do to that I have to send me my picture first since I've been questioning about forever and I'm your favorite sister Okay, I can probably do that. Um other than that. I think it is time for Tim to claim his tennis lab was special Yeah, it is.
So we will call it a night. Thanks everybody. I'm night. I'm yours You're listening to the Wisps was at your investigative studies for paranormal science They're grown as adults.
They like to sit in the dark and talk to each other, but they all love their moms So that should account for something