People pleasing - how to stop putting yourself last with Emma Reed Turrell

My guest today is clinical psychotherapist Emma Reed Turrell, who I first heard being interviewed on one of my favourite podcasts, How To Fail with Elizabeth Day.   Emma was talking about her new book 'Please Yourself' - 'how to stop people-pleasing and transform the way you live'.   In our conversation today we talk about the 4 people pleasing types that Emma has identified through her clinical practice, and how most of us will have tendencies towards each one in different situations.   I asked her about some of the steps we can take to start saying 'no' and set up firmed boundaries, but without swinging so far the other way that we end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater.   I was also interested in Emma's views on people pleasing in men, as this isn't just a female trait (I personally identified with many of the stories she shares in the book!).   I highly recommend reading the book, which is available from all good book stores.   Emma also puts out some great content on Instagram and you can find her here:   https://emmareedturrell.com https://www.instagram.com/emmareedturrell https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-reed-turrell-mbacp-accred-42328436 https://twitter.com/etcounselling