friends and friends only gather around it's time for a very important episode of perhaps it's you if you somehow don't know by now my name is liz and my name is samantha and yeah it's the last time we're gonna be doing that that this is it yeah rip the band-aid off we are putting perhaps it's you on indefinite hiatus uh which is a way of saying that we're not gonna do it anymore i think we're calling it an indefinite hiatus when we both know the truth which is we're we're done this is it we're wrapping it up yeah and it's time I don't want it to be time. I kind of want to do it forever, but I also recognize that it's time. I would really like this to just continue for forever because it's been overall such a blessing, but it is actually time.
you are doing this even though you woke up today with a migraine. And I don't, I don't know. I don't know what that means or what that says, but we've really put a lot into this and maybe we've earned a break. I was thinking about, we recorded some episode where you had gotten like no sleep and you still came to my house to record. Why? Strangely, I have no memory of that. I'm sure it happened, but probably because I had gotten no sleep, I blocked it out. Yeah. We have been, I think quite dedicated.
I mean, it's been seven years, eight seasons and seven years, 200. Just saying that is wild to me. I sort of feel like we've just started, but we've done 220 some episodes regular that have been released to the public plus more Patreon bonus episodes. According to listen notes, which I don't know that anyone takes seriously, but according to that metric, we are in the top 1% as we close it up. You know what? We were baby. Yeah, we did it. We did it. I know, I know this podcast is never going to make it, but I sort of think that we did. I sort of think we did almost everything we wanted to do.
so beautiful we did everything we wanted to do and more i'm not sure either of us expected that we would be here seven years later having done all the things that we did we went to a fest i mean i know we're gonna do perhaps as you read it but like it's just wild to me how much we did how many friends we made that you and i are still friends no samantha's like what's really weird is that i still talk to you and i'm like oh my god it is so like so many podcasts have imploded you know whatever maybe not easily but like i feel like Podcasts and just projects like that in general have a way of like ruining friendships. And this is done the opposite for us, which I feel really grateful for. But yeah, I'm really grateful for the whole experience. And I'm probably going to continue to be incoherent during this whole thing because I'm still coming down from the rescue meds, from the migrants. So I apologize. Feel free to cut me off. You know what?
It's in spirit of the whole project. So don't even worry about it. It's all good. We're going out like we came in where we don't know what we're saying or what we're doing. We sure have we ever been doing it for seven years. Have we fucking learned how to record? No. Did we really learn anything about unsolved mysteries? No. Look, we did endeavor to be good at this. We did not endeavor to be good at this. I think we succeeded in that. Yet, we still have people who I think have listened from the beginning. Yeah. We make money. We don't make a profit, but we've made money off this thing.
um i mean we've gotten a quarter million downloads and you could be like well that's like you know for a famous person doing podcasts that's nothing but for two people no one has ever heard of it with no experience i feel like that's pretty good that there's a quarter of a million times people could have done anything and they're like you know what i'm gonna listen to what liz and samantha have to say that's wild when that person met someone on a plane who would listen to the podcast yeah a person they didn't know well they recommended it like they were talking to the person sitting next to them on the plane about podcasts and they recommended it and that person was like oh yeah i've been meaning to listen to that my mom listens to that or something like that like that's wild that's truly wild crazy Yeah. God, I don't even know where to begin. Okay. We do have a few things to like, to like wrap up season eight, to like wrap up the show. So we're going to do the listener stories that we haven't read. So people had some questions and then we can, we can reminisce a little bit more before we close it out. Does that sound good? That sounds great. Yeah. I mean, there's our update. That's the most important update.
Mac and I are going to do the Patreon bonus episode this month. And then we're going to, that'll be that, man. Oh, it's so brutal. So brutal to say. It's the end of an era. I'm really going to try not to cry. We'll see if that's possible. For the patrons of the Super Mystery Solver and Super Duper Mystery Solver.
you have, you already got a message talking about how we're going to do a printed coloring book of the best coloring sheets and send that out to you guys to thank you for supporting. That's still happening. I don't have a date on when those are going to go out, but just to thank you for your years of supporting this project, you are going to get that. So don't, that's not canceled just because we're wrapping up the show. We're still going to do that.
if people want to send in like fan art or whatever things they made over the years that didn't make it into a zine, maybe I can do like one last retrospective zine. I'm not sure about that, but if we got a bunch of stuff, there is some stuff that people had sent in that, that never got into one. So that's perhaps it's you podcast at gmail.com. If you had anything that you wanted to, I don't know, say, say goodbye, say farewell, whatever. That is a possibility.
and oh my god okay so i have a listener story to read so let's do that this is from listener amelia who has been listening for a very long time and also i need to thank amelia because she just sent us this box completely stuffed with japanese stacks those come from amelia yeah it's called a sakura box and it is like jam-packed of all of these different sweet and savory snacks and maybe i'll share some of them with you samantha um If you're good. It could be the beer for children. I don't want to know. Yeah. It has some interesting things in there that I had not seen before. And one of them is this like, like almost like a Kool-Aid packet, like a drink mixed packet, but it's to like make a non-alcoholic beer. And the Google lens translated it to bad boy beer. It was like for naughty children. I don't know. Very funny product. I guess I'll try it. I don't know. It's a very unappealing thing.
The beer flavor water. Okay. No, thank you so much for that. That's super sweet, Amelia. Thank you. So this is the story. She actually sent in two stories that I'm going to read. She says, my mother used to work as a seasonal interpretive ranger at Alley Mill in the Ozark Scenic Riverways National Park back in the 90s. She usually gave tours of the old mill and the one-room schoolhouse. As any old place should be, both were extremely haunted. Stories of little girls drowning in the mill pond, mill workers killed by machinery, et cetera.
Yikes. Okay. My mom witnessed a few minor events. Footsteps on the third floor of the mill, which was completely locked off because the floors aren't safe. Okay, that's kind of creepy. Random figures on the path around the mill pond at night, and a few items that would appear and disappear. Yikes. I guess we won't have to get freaked out by these stories anymore.
Oh, this is already a good one. Okay. Oh my god, I make fun of that toy all the time. Yeah, you see that in cartoons and stuff. And I was just like, there's no way that could have been fun. Making a hoop move with a stick. Anyway, hilarious that a ghost was still playing with that. The child was alone. So the woman called out and asked where her mother was. The child stared for a moment and responded, I don't know. The lady asked the child what the child was doing at the park. And the child responded, I'm always here.
Samantha, I'm always here. Don't want to think about that. Okay. But her daughter liked to put on a costume and play. My mother thought this tourist had- Like prank people? Okay. She's thinking it's Amelia. My mother thought this tourist had seen and spoken to me. Oh. I was a bit of a creepy kid with really big eyes and a very serious expression. The thing is, I don't remember this happening. Oh, okay. Maybe little Amelia was possessed. Yeah. I definitely did put on that costume and play with the old toys, but I never spoke to people. It wasn't until I was told the story years later, so I have no clue what I had done that day.
Did the tourist see and speak to me? Did she see me and embellish her story of talking to a ghost? But she's so freaked out, though. Right. Okay. Maybe it was a ghost that Amelia frequently played with. You know, just because there are children who dress up at that park doesn't mean she didn't see a ghost, you know? Right. Okay, so here's the second story. My maternal grandmother was a fucking genius.
Oh, sorry, grandfather. I was just assuming. My maternal grandfather was a fucking genius. This is not an exaggeration. He was born in 1925 and got as far as the eighth grade before he left school to work. The thing is, he could take apart any machine and put it back together by memory. He could fix anything mechanical. He could draw perfect schematics for something just by looking at it. Whoa. And when computers started being available, he figured out how to make and repair them with zero help.
Wow. He was never taught engineering, physics, mechanics, or even algebra, let alone calculus. He could barely read. His knowledge was completely innate. I often compare him to Nikola Tesla. Grandpa also survived polio as a child and was left disabled with one leg shorter than the other. And it says, vaccinate yourself and your family. Always good advice. Fast forward to 1943 and that pesky World War II thing.
Grandpa, having turned 18, registered for the draft, as it was law, and was drafted. What the fuck was the army going to do with a half-livered disabled man? Oh wait, he's got a brain. And thus began my grandfather's career in Army Air Force intelligence, which is what later became the Air Force. What does he know about the aliens? Yeah, exactly. According to various hints dropped throughout his life and vague information from my uncle,
the NSA intelligence agent, Grandpa got off some pretty wild things pre-1950s. The timeline is fuzzy, but he was in Europe during the war. Primarily, he designed, built, tested, and repaired airplanes. At some point, he traveled often to Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and did something. If you've never heard of Oak Ridge, it's basically a town that was planned and built by the U.S. government for research associated with the Manhattan Project, very top secret, like the town itself was classified.
He occasionally transported things in briefcases, attaches, if you will, all over the country that were handcuffed to his wrist. By 1950, he and my grandmother had settled in St. Louis and he had a regular job at the American Telephone and Telegraph Company, AT&T. Or did he? My grandmother and mother have been trying to find out more since his death in 1996 with zero luck. All of his activities beyond basic record service are completely sealed and classified. Still, it's been nearly 75 years and we have no idea what he got up to. Oh.
Thank you for reading my stories. I love P.I.Y. so much. Every episode makes me laugh out loud. Keep barking. Thank you, Emil. Oh, my God. Yeah, I want to know what Grandpa knows about the aliens. He's got to know something. Attachés handcuffed to your wrist. Yeah, I mean, that might be like airplane schematics, but I bet he knows about a lot of stuff we talked on this show. I bet he would know something about it. Thank God he didn't get got by the octopus. I was just thinking, Samantha, we need to close this show up before the government, a.k.a. the octopus, gets us. 100%. You know where next. I don't want to go out like that journalist, Samantha. I really don't. I know.
The truth isn't worth it to me. I'm sorry, everyone. I'm a coward. We're done. We're hanging out. Max said that I should say that we had to end because it woke. That we were like, sorry, guys. It just got too woke. And one of the last things Joe Biden is doing in his office is closing us down. He doesn't want us talking about unsolved mysteries for some reason. Sorry. Sorry. It's because it woke. For real. The truth comes out. Yeah. Okay. You have a listener story to read. I do. This is from Adeline. So the story goes, I'm Adeline, and here's my ghost story that I hope you will like. I'm sure we will.
A while back, like maybe a year ago, I had an encounter with a ghost slash doppelganger maybe? I'm not really sure. I don't like that at all. I'm already freaked out. But a time when I was getting out of the shower, I was looking in the mirror to make sure my hair was all the way washed. And while I was looking in the mirror, I saw in the corner, I already do not like this, in the corner of my eye, a corgi that looked like my dog Percy. But I was confused why he was in there because the door was closed. So I spun around and to my surprise, I saw that he wasn't there. I was confused and just went about my day.
then maybe a week later or perhaps a couple days i was getting dressed after a sport um not really sure the timeline is a little fuzzy here um but i was in my room putting a sweater on and again at the corner of my eye i saw a cat this time i thought it was my cat aviva pretty name for a cat um because it was a calico just like her so i turned around and i have a loft bed so i climbed up to go pet her and again just like the corgi she wasn't there i was very confused and felt it was strange it reminded me of the corgi incident um recently i have a flag and it keeps coming out like what okay i'm getting a little confused by your story at this at the end here i have a flag and it keeps coming out like slowly coming out of the wall for an unknown reason oh what no my mother uh oh she says my mother sent you a maria sent you a ghost story a while back and she gave me an idea to send you a thank you and i hope you have a good day well thank you and please pass our thanks along to your mom as well um i don't really understand the part of the end about the flag but the doppelganger ghost pets are really freaking me out and i want to know what your animals are up to yeah
yeah what is that getting out of the shower and seeing like yeah either your own ghost doppelganger in the mirror or your pet like that's horror movie stuff right there oh okay i have a story for you this is a friend of a friend story this is not something that was sent in but it's so good love it so um this was a while ago in madison this person was going to school and there was like a mass school email sent out that was like be careful there's a burglar in the neighborhood who has been knocking on windows to see if people are home before breaking into residences. So like, we just want everybody to be aware and like high alert for that. Right. And she's like, yeah, okay, whatever. I'm really tired. I need to take a nap. Right. And this was a, this was like a college living situation. So she was in either the first floor of the basement and just had like a mattress under a window. Like that was where. Do not like where this is going. So that's where she slept. Right. So she goes to take a nap. She's snoozing. And all of a sudden there is a knock, knock, knock at the window right above her. Well.
So now switch your point of view. Imagine you're the burglar. You're wearing your ski mask, going around, knocking on windows to see if people are at home. What you're not going to expect is that you knock on the window and immediately someone bolts right up in bed and stares at you, which is what happened. So she is sleeping, hears a knock, sits straight up and is just staring right at a guy in a ski mask who lets out like a little screech and runs away. Oh my God. Oh yeah, he didn't bring her to the house. Yeah, amazing. Hilarious. It's really one of the best stories I've heard.
I've loved hearing everybody's stories. Something that's been really amazing about doing this podcast is that once people hear that you're doing a podcast about Unsolved Mysteries, it turns out most people have seen a ghost. And they weren't bringing that information up to me previously. I don't know. Maybe I seem like I'm pretty judgmental or something. But the second you're doing an Unsolved Mysteries podcast, basically everyone was like, okay, so I don't believe in ghosts, but here's the thing. I saw this ghost this one time. And that has been wild. And I have loved that. I have loved that coming into my life.
I think we were just a lot more open-minded than we were when we started this. Oh, definitely. And so many of the stories we've received, either from listeners or friends or whoever over the years, are genuinely scary, compelling stories. I believe every single one of them. Yeah, wild. Completely wild. It's one of the many things that I never would have predicted going into this. Absolutely. It's definitely taught me... I don't even know the best way to phrase this. Yeah, real surprise there.
that you don't necessarily have to like know what something is to like believe their account of it that you like you hear that story you go wow that's freaky as fuck uh i don't know what that was but i definitely believe you're telling all the story like those are not the same thing yeah your experience yeah yeah to me like i have no reason to believe you didn't see what you saw what you say you saw do i know what the phoenix lights are no but i absolutely believe all those people saw something i just know what it was 100 we obviously believe in mothman all those people saw him i i you know i really feel like we have done so much and there's really nothing There's kind of nothing left for us to do except that we didn't get to the Mothman episode of Unsolved Mysteries. This will haunt me forever. I knew you were going to say that. That we didn't make it to the... But what season? Is it in the next one? I don't know. Bitch, it doesn't matter. We're never going to get it. I think it doesn't, but we always knew we were not getting to all 13 seasons. Let's be real. There's going to be things we're not going to get to because we would be doing this for the rest of our lives. And we just can't. Yeah, it's just not...
it's just not it's just not sustainable we like we've really been trying to keep it going probably longer than made sense and yeah just like logistically when our own lives blah blah blah like you know it just doesn't it just doesn't make sense to keep doing it i don't want to keep doing it when we don't enjoy it and it starts to be really shitty you know like that is the thing you know when your favorite tv series ends or your favorite book series ends or something i feel like it is better to end on a good note than to like draw something out forever and like it end up being bad or like you have a bad association with the end you know what i mean like sometimes it's okay for things to end and it's hard but i do think it's for the best like i would like to keep doing it forever and pretend that people really like wanted to hear what i have to say like that's been very validating but yeah it's time and also i go like oh but it is time though okay so people had um in our facebook group thank you to all those people god they're really the loveliest anyway they had some questions for us so let's see here tia wants to know how many boats is too many um i've been over this
it was six which is a lot that's a lot of boats five boats is a lot of boats you can have five six too many i feel like five is really fucking pushing it like Like at that point, they better be like different kinds of boats, I guess. Or like you're renting out boats. I don't know. But we established it at six for whatever reason. You can't change it. It was six. It was six. And if the boats are over a certain size, you're going to have to deal with the orcas, you know? So I feel like the orcas. That's on you. The orcas are policing that for us. Thank you to them. Thank you to the Orcas of Justice. A totally normal thing. The show created out in there. Totally, totally normal. Yeah, they are in charge of making sure that you don't have too many boats or that the boats are not so ridiculously big. So thank you to them. Okay.
Oh, Jodi. Jodi figured it out. Here's my invasive question. Does season eight finale equal finale of the podcast? Yes. You're psychic. Congratulations. You figured it out. Or perhaps you've been reading the writing that's been on the wall for like years at this point. Really, really trying to get, I don't know how we used to record so often, but really trying to get just like one more episode out. Okay. Kelly asks, how have your lives changed over the course of recording the podcast? Any moves, new jobs, et cetera. I mean, God, seven fucking years. Plus changed. COVID happened in the middle of that.
yeah i've had a few different jobs samantha and i had known each other like maybe a year when we started this we did not know each other that well but we had um because we're in the same book club we had like organized a couple events through that together and so i started i was like oh well samantha's a planner so i had a good feeling about working with you but honestly i didn't really know you that well no we barely knew each other we just were like talking about in some mystery so much and our friend alexa said you should start a podcast and for some reason we were like yeah maybe we will okay maybe we will let's rent this room at the library oh yeah that was way fancier than we needed oh my god how to use we didn't know how to use it sorry that first episode is in mono we didn't even know what that was until someone was like hey we did watch like half a youtube video on how to podcast okay i watched like two and a half yeah and you know what for intel we had to start going remote the sound on our episodes was great i don't know why because we were not using that board correctly at all but those episodes sounded good so yes thank you to alexa who just said that randomly, like, hey, that changed our entire lives. Thank you to the Brooklyn Park Library. Thank you to Minnesota for having the type of library that has a fucking recording studio you can just, like, check out in it. Like, that's incredible. We only recorded there once because teenagers use it so often. Yeah. Which I think is fantastic. Choir groups and stuff. That's, like, such a Minnesota COVID thing where it's, like, well, the recording studio at the library is not available very often because kids are doing their, like, choir groups and making music. Yeah, yeah, their demo tapes and stuff. There's, like, a limit of how many times you can reserve it a month, and we were trying to, like, both of us reserve it, and they were, like, no, that's not how that works.
So. Oh, my God. Jesus. Okay. Also Tia says, not a memory, not a question, but a memory of when I fell in love with the show. One of you couldn't remember the name of My Little Pony and instead said something like My Pal A Horse. Yeah, that's old. That's really old, My Pal A Horse. That was my, that was me thinking of like, you go to the dollar store and they have like knockoffs of popular toys. There's like the dollar store Barbies or whatever. And so in my mind, a dollar store, My Little Pony was called My Pal A Horse. And now every time I will be at like Walgreens or something and I will see a discount like bootleg My Little Pony and kind of laugh to myself because it does always have a name like that. It's like, what if an animal was friends or something?
Okay. Amelia asked us for a full pod animal update. Wait, did we finish the answer to what else has gone on in your life? Oh, my God. You're right. I just breeze over that. I think I was a nanny when we started this. I've been a nanny a few times. I was working at the acupuncture clinic for a while. I was working at a salon for a while. Did a lot of freelance writing. One thing I sort of regret but not really regret is that I wonder if it would have been helpful for me. I don't know. Maybe other people. It's really hard to say. But I just didn't really talk that much about having fibromyalgia.
And I don't know. That really has nothing to do with the show though. I just didn't, I didn't want it to be like me whining about it all the time, but maybe that should have been, I don't know. I mean, it's up to you. I don't know that, you know, it's part of who you are, but it doesn't define you. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, that's kind of in the mix also. I mean, you got married. I got married. I got a few different jobs within the same place. Your house got built. You got, you got a donkey. I got a donkey.
People are familiar with Elfie the donkey. I still think we might be the first podcast with a pod donkey. So that's a claim. I sure hope so. That would be a badge of honor if we had the one and only or at least the first pod donkey. Yeah, I think so.
Yeah. I mean, I mean, a lot has happened in seven years. Yeah. It's been a wild ride. We've changed a lot. Part of, I think, why we've decided that this feels like the right time to wrap this up is that we have changed so much and we're both ready to try new things and then move on to different things. And we just don't have the capacity to do everything, unfortunately. So, you know, we will be starting new projects, new things. You're doing a lot more art. You're painting, you know. Samantha's going to be doing the State Master Gardener program this year.
Yep, I'm enrolled in that. I should have done a module last week and I didn't. So that's going to be busy. I'm going to be busy with that. Yeah, gardening. I'm already behind. So yeah, I hope to become a master gardener this year. You know, in a way, I feel like both of us are kind of, I don't know if stubborn is the right word, but. It probably is. But like, I'm not sure we even realize like how much effort we at least used to put into this because it was just like, of course, like, of course, we're going to do these 5,000 things that don't need to be done. We recorded, we put out an episode a week for so long. And specials and shit.
and we were doing more you're recording in person yeah every weekend and it was i don't regret it it was very fun but it was a lot of work um and eventually that became unsustainable and so we reduced it and then reduced it more but we did for a long time it is it is a lot of work even when you don't really know what the you're doing you do have to kind of put in a lot of work all of the work you've done for the patreon if you've enjoyed things that you've received through patreon that has been 100 liz she has done all of that an incredible amount of work an incredible amount of creativity has gone into the coloring sheets uh just coming you know if we've had guest spots finding people to do them commissioning them tracking our finances like you've done so much and it is it's a lot that goes on behind the scenes even for something as small as our little show yeah well just because it's just the two of us so even with it being small like we do have other stuff to do like this isn't our whole gig you know right yeah so as much as like i would have loved to make something that was even better and even more polished and even more thought through like this really was like
everything we had to give we you know this was it was this or nothing it really was yeah like you're talking about how me putting all this effort into the patreon and i'm looking at this cross stitch that you made okay so at some point i was like oh let's have like a higher tier patron patron for people who want merch and like maybe you'll get you know once a quarter they'll get like a whole gift like a sticker or maybe a little zine or something and samantha was like yeah i'll make every single person an individual cross stitch i did commit to that which is wild to be to think about which is insane so i'm looking at mine right now here in the podcasting room I will say I am a little bit excited to have this table back in my life and not just have a microphone. I have recorded a podcast at a fucking metal table that makes so much noise. I know all of you are going, no, but too bad. That's the table that I have. And I'm looking forward to being able to use this table again. Even I have a drawer in this room that all the like Patriots have. I was like, oh my God, I get a drawer back. Amazing. Okay. No, no, I'm not going to get super emotional. Okay.
so for the full pod animal update okay oh can't be too good we lost gracie last year gracie r.i.p i don't know if curtis knows that was curtis's true love um curtis and lenny are they're still around uh lenny is worse than i swear he's worse every day he's just a hedonist he just does whatever he wants i think he used to be like a shy mild tempered dog when we got him and i think he learned that our love was like two days a couple months okay okay a few months maybe eased into his menace he learned that we would love him even if he was naughty and he was like well there you go yeah god um they're still about uh and how's elfie doing elfie's great elfie does have a brother from another mother he has a horse yeah i feel like who doesn't get very much love but you know he's just as sweet not really as cute but love him as well that's chance i feel like i have not talked about him enough on the podcast but elfie's doing great somehow even though they live together in my mind elfie is your donkey and then there's just also a horse there
you know what i mean it probably seems that way because of how much i talk about him but yeah he has a roommate who is a horse they are roommates uh my dog renly is doing great he's getting older has some medical complications recently but seems to be doing fine now and yeah but all the animals are doing well uh the ones that we still have with us yeah so i mean i suppose that's not bad over this I don't think I even had Curtis when we started this. No, I don't think so. Jesus Christ. So much has changed. Question from Helen. Oh, she says, during my recent re-listen. God, thank you, Helen. What a devoted, sweet listener Helen is. I have started to keep a tally of how many times you all say it's a, quote, insert name situation. I love it. I wasn't even aware that we did that. I wasn't either. But that makes completely sense. Oh, I guess it's just a regular Lenny and Curtis situation.
This does seem like something we would do. I'm sure we do. Helen, I'm sorry. You won't be able to hear your voice crush Mac much longer, but you'll get one more episode with him. Yeah. Okay. So now we're hearing from listener jazz. Also jazz has been with us since the very beginning. Jazz came to our meetup. I was going to say we met jazz in person. Love jazz. And jazz's question is what has been your favorite fan interaction?
It could be that one. I mean, meeting our fans in person is wild. That was weird. I can't say there were a lot of them, but it was weird. It was amazing. When we checked in at that True Crime podcast festival, some people were like, when we were, they were like, oh, it's you. And I was like, that's weird. They're like, you know who we are is weird. Like, it's not, this is definitely not a thing where we're like walking around town and people are like, oh, it's losing to me. Right? So, we've got sent so much lovely stuff, particularly handmade stuff. And both of us are crafty enough to understand that's a lot of time. Like, if you're making something, if you're sewing, somehow we've inspired two cross-stitch pairs.
that's wild but i mean i've got this whole shadow box here of all these like beautiful handmade like oh yeah felt things and embroidered things and just sweet letters people have sent us and stuff and like that it's just been it's just amazing so delightful people sent me so many things when i had spine surgery in 2023 and i can't thank you and i mean i can't thank those folks enough people sent me hand knit socks that i still wear all the lovely cards the books i have like a whole little special box basket with all the things that i've received as well um and that is wild to me especially considering we are such a small podcast i mean in the grand scheme of things we do not have a ton of listeners but the ones that we have have been so sweet and dedicated and generous very dedicated very very yes absolutely because i don't run our social media anymore i don't feel like i've had as many like direct fan interactions as you but i do think the ones that i've had have all been positive um and all of the things folks have sent us or even just the nice messages the reviews they're it's hard to pick a favorite because all our listeners are so sweet
We've had so many truly funny five-star reviews. Thank you for the people who gave us five-star reviews and followed the rules. That's some funny one-star reviews too, let's be real. Yeah. It really is a power to taking something someone negative has said about you and putting that on merch and selling it. I really highly recommend that as a cathartic. The cackling has to stop. I mean, come on. The thing is, Joffrey, it's never going to stop. Even though we're stopping this podcast, people can still listen to it. So the cackling will never, oh my God, I'm getting choked up. The cackling will never die, Joffrey. I'm so sorry to you. Cackling will never stop. It's the amazing thing about the internet. Is that typo still on our homepage of our website? There is like a little footnote of me saying that there was a typo there.
i forgot about that oh my god amazing okay so we have one last question from sarah which is besides the magic rock because you know we were gonna say that what's been your favorite mystery when you most want solved i should have known that this one was coming you start because i'm not sure i still have brain fog from the mic okay i really apologize that i don't remember the names in this case and that's really because i tried to block it out as much as possible this is actually my least favorite mystery but it is the one i most want solved which is the one where the the man is on the phone with his fiancee and hears her kidnapped Oh, and he, yes. Yes. And he, like, gets his truck over there to see her being driven away, but then his truck dies, and he just, like, sees her disappear. Like, it's so fucking heartbreaking and terrible. They put that at the end of the Unsolved Mysteries doc that we went and saw at the Alamo, and I was like, how dare you show this to me again? Because it's so fucking sad, and I don't think that's been solved, and I don't think there's even, like, any leads to possibility. Oh, God. Well, I think, I mean, that one is clearly one that's resonated with a lot of people because they put it in that documentary. I mean, and the reenactment of it is really heartbreaking. That one, and we've talked about it before, but the Audrey Moe plays in the swamp.
that reenactment just fucking haunts me um god and there's also i don't think we talked about it on here but when i was on um uncovering unexplained mysteries once i talked about a case of a woman that disappeared on a cruise ship uh and i went down quite a rabbit hole with that one and i don't know i don't know if i can go on a cruise ship like it just oh but see none of these are my favorite actually i hate all of them i hate all of them i hate that we learned about them my favorite ones are always like did this crucifix blink or like um to that thing where they thought those kids were in a satanic group that spelled skate just like the really stupid stuff is all of my favorite because everyone lives you know like anyone where everyone lives i'm like wow that was the greatest mystery ever well and you know i love i love the lost loves those have always been my favorite they always have a special place okay so we just did this like back and forth and somehow you got so many of the lost loves it just lined up that way and that's really weird
yeah but great i love yeah i love all of them that was staff watching over us yeah i can't think off the top of my head of the mystery that i want solved the most i think the ones you chose were solid there's a lot of reboot mysteries yeah that's that i feel like like the one um with the the friends who are on the bench and you know it was just like a complete probably hate crime um so many of those are very very sad yeah but hopefully because a lot of them are newer maybe those will get solved just to give the family some relief but yeah god um anytime we weren't talking about roswell that was great oh yeah great day we're not talking about roswell great day you know we talk obviously this is on some mysteries podcast but i feel like we got to discover so many other things through patreon and specials uh doing the um beyond belief factor fictions were some of my favorite things that we've done the reveal at the end there's just i mean i'm just smiling right now thinking of that parrot one you know what i mean like they're so funny no the beyond belief man we should have just done that as her
you know it was a joy to do seven years later i'm like we should have just done a beyond belief podcast that would have been more fun but probably it would have brought all this weird stuff into our lives the same way it wouldn't it wouldn't have i don't know that it would have had the same magic but and also being that it was a special thing that we did i feel like it also added to the novelty and made it more fun and more joyful but they were just so silly you know it's not you know unsolved mysteries these are real horrible things happen to people a lot of the time and so and beyond belief is just silly things that have never ever happened absolute dog shit made up bullshit it's incredible you know or like doing That bar rescue one where they had the pirate bar? We did that so early too. Doing Amy's Baking Company. Legendary. Legendary. Our listeners are jewels in the desert. I still tell Samantha periodically that she's a jewel in the desert because of that. And she really is, folks. She really is a jewel in the desert. That flat birth documentary that I took like 18 pages of notes on. That broke my brain.
I will never see humanity the same because of that flat earth documentary. But also I became the world's leading expert on the movie, The Snowman. You did? You did? And fear.com.com? I am going to spend the rest of my life looking for a bad movie that brings me as much joy as fear.com. As finding out that the evil website in that movie was fear.com.com. I'm obsessed. It's so, so like, God, when Mac and I first watched that, we were like rolling around laughing about fear.com.com. Anyway. We've talked about so many fun things. It's been a joy and a treat. I mean, okay, let's see. Let's see about her accomplishments here.
Yes, we did. We finished eight seasons. We outlived the official Unsolved Mysteries podcast by so much. And we outlived our hater other Unsolved Mysteries podcast. They're long gone. So goodbye. Yeah, we were the number one on a platform. The now defunct Repod platform? Yeah. 10 people liked it. Whatever. We were number one on that platform. We bullied them into giving us money. That's wild. Thank you to them. If anyone from Repod is still listening, fucking thank you. Because they literally gave us money for nothing. They gave us money just because they liked our deal.
It's the best. It's the best thing to ever happen. It was a one and only brand sponsorship. Everyone else sends you this cryptic email asking for all of these stats to maybe send you a free pair of headphones and you have to read so much copy and it's just like... One free pair of headphones. We were like, no, no. There's no way we're doing this. And they were just like, how about I send you money and you just mention us sometimes. And I was like, absolutely. Thank you for liking our whole deal. And then, yeah, I just bullied them into sponsoring our season seven finale also. Where I just kept being like, if enough people like this post, they should do it. And then they did. That worked.
And then someone commented that that episode had unhinged banter, which is one of my favorite. Cause we were like playing alien autopsy. We were, I mean, it did have unhinged banter, but that's a compliment. Yeah, no, I saw it. I see that as a compliment for sure. I mean, yeah, God.
I'm really proud that when I met the drag queen Katya and was introduced as having an Unsolved Mysteries podcast that she thought that was interesting. Like I think that made me seem like for five seconds, not even like kind of cool. And then I got to say that immediately that Robert Stack had a threesome with JFK and Elizabeth Taylor. And she was like, oh my God, no. And I was like, yes, this is the perfect conversation to be having right now. This is my perfect end. So thank you for that. That was, I mean, that was an amazing moment and just like my life. I'm proud that we launched Spooky Train Day and multiple people have done their own Spooky Train Days. Yes.
Yes, yes, yes. All of the train content. And when Samantha and I were talking about like, okay, it's probably time to like, you know, close up the shop. She was like, well, we're still going to do stupid train activities. And I was like, you have to do that with me until you die. What are you talking about? One of the requirements is that we still have to do silly, wholesome activities. Absolutely. They've been some of the funniest, funnest things I've done. We got BD Wong to comment on our Instagram once. That wasn't a soul match. Get it right.
What an amazing, oh God, we did it all, really. I forgot that he corrected that it wasn't a soul patch. And you know what? It's not. Look at him in that terrible movie. It's not a soul patch. He's correct. I humbly, but of course, before he commented on that post, I had referred to him as like Big Daddy Wong or something. Which that probably happens all the time, but it's a little embarrassing. There have been some things with this podcast where I'm like, okay, that's kind of embarrassing, but you know, it's all a lesson. You don't need to dwell on those. It's all been a lesson in, I don't, yeah, it's been such a blessing for me. I feel like it's opened up my life in so many ways.
Oh, it definitely has for me. I, when we started this, I didn't even like the sound of my, like I actively disliked the sound of my voice, which is, it's weird that I started a podcast, but anyway. And at some point during this, I was like, wait, people pay to listen. It can't be that bad. No, people want to hear it. People want, people actually want to hear what I have to say. Like that's wildly validating to go. I don't know how many times I've said wild in this episode. I'm sorry. I'm going to do it again. But, um, well, it's been a wild experience. It's been extremely, you know, confidence building and validating and just very encouraging. And even though, you know, this hasn't made us millions of dollars and I didn't get to buy a house in Malibu.
I think this really shows that there's value to doing stuff that doesn't have huge material gain. I think that's the real lesson of this. And obviously, there's a reason we can't keep doing it. That does take a lot of time and energy. And there's not always going to be room in your life for that because, yeah, there's bills to be paid. I understand that. But there is value to doing projects that don't necessarily have...
huge monetary rewards or huge financial success or that kind of thing yeah no i agree and i think it's also a testament to the fact that there's like people out like it's cliche to say like your people are out there but i think it's true like you start doing something because you love it like you start a podcast with your friend talking about unsolved mysteries because you enjoy it you think it's fun we were not expecting anyone to listen like we talked about the five listeners but we literally were not expecting anyone to care or listen and then they just showed up and there's a little community that has grown where we all enjoy each other enjoy talking to each other enjoy the same things and i've had this happen a few times in my life and i think it's true that like if you pursue something that you like you'll there's a good chance you're gonna find other people that also like that thing and you might form a little a little community of your people right i mean that sounds extremely cheesy but it's what's happened and that's how i feel about our listeners oh absolutely and there's such it's scary i mean we're not like performers so it was scary to like put this out on the internet for the first time and like the internet can be a scary place like i don't know you were petrified i think i was i recall messaging you being like i'm gonna do it i'm pressing the button i'm gonna do it now like this is happening right like you can't once it's out there you can't take it back right um and there have been a couple things that i could have lived without but in general it's been such a positive experience and people have been so receptive and encouraging and and we're we're mostly talking to people who are so lovely which is just like very different
than how I thought it was going to go. I was expecting a lot more Joffreys in the world, and it turns out there's not that many of them, or at least this project attracted our kind of people and people that we like. So I'm so glad that we did it, despite being like, oh my God, what are we doing? where we were like we recorded it and then we were like are we really gonna are we really gonna do this like that's so weird um i do have to thank mike and josh over at they don't do uh uncovering unexplained mysteries anymore and i'm sure they're not listening to this but they were so encouraging and they really reached out to us i i don't understand how this is possible i swear you posted that and we heard for them with like within the hour i don't know it was so fast like they had a google alert or something i don't know how they do i don't even think it was on itunes yet and they like reached out to be like oh we do an unsolved mysteries podcast we love what you're doing blah blah and that is not like we were expecting people to be like hey that's our thing you know and instead they were like They were just so great about it. And it encouraged us to like get our own equipment and stop trying to get into the library. This is how unprepared and little research we did. It didn't really even occur to us that there was another Unsolved Mysteries podcast out there that had already been doing it. They had like, and if you're a newer listener, maybe you didn't, you haven't listened back in the.
Arrow or we had Josh on the podcast a couple times. They were doing it like before it was on streaming. Like we kind of, like we came to it late. We were like jumping on the streaming bandwagon. They had like the DVDs, right? They were like trading tapes and stuff. Yeah, you had to like buy and trade them on the internet. And they had a cease and desist letter early on because it hadn't been on streaming. Yeah, Unsolved Mysteries got mad at them. But they actually like know a lot about Unsolved Mysteries in a way that we were just like, we're having fun watching it and talking about it.
But they actually had like a lot of knowledge that we still don't have. They could have come at us being really territorial about it. And instead they were so welcoming and encouraging and, you know, wanted to talk to us about Unsolved Mysteries. And, you know, I think in a way we were kind of posed. I mean, we weren't like OG fans the way that they were, but they embraced us in a way that I think like.
they didn't need to do and i really appreciate them to this day because if they had come at us with the opposite energy i think we would just quit never done this yeah i think that's totally true because we were so we were so uncertain about it we had so little invested in it and we just didn't really we really really didn't know what we were doing so we probably would be like oh this is a bad idea never mind Because we recorded an episode and then I think we were like, oh, wait, there are other Unsolved Mysteries podcasts. And we were like, well, then should we even do it? Like, is that even okay? Yeah, we had that conversation. But they were so encouraging for us to keep going. And I think almost immediately suggested that we do like a crossover episode. We had like not even recorded our second episode yet. Yeah, no, they were so enthusiastic for it. And we were just like, oh, wow. I remember when we like very first started, people that I didn't know well but knew would come up to me and be like, oh, I heard the podcast is really good. And I was just like, what? Like, why would you want to listen to me at Samantha Talk? Like, not only did I not think people would listen, but when they did listen, I was like taken aback.
It's like, wait a second. You're just like, I would get into a friend's car and they would be listening to the podcast. And I'd be like, okay, that's weird. Like, huh? It's like, oh, people, you're real. Those numbers correlate to actual people sometimes. That's interesting. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Call me Oscar. I got some people to thank. Okay. We have to thank Mac, who has been so helpful for this and has acted like this was a real thing. And not only has he helped us with, like, audio stuff, and he's filled in for Samantha while Samantha was serving some time. But the number of times that he's had to, like, go hide in this house because I'm recording. Or, like, when you're in person, we have to turn off the heat in Minnesota in the winter, and he's just been, like, upstairs shivering. A lot of times we've been under blankets.
recording at your house and poor man. And he never complained a single time, at least not while I was there. Maybe he complained to you. No, no, he didn't. And he probably should have because that's all I put up with. I would go on the record and say, I would not have been half as supportive of that. If I had to, every time he wanted to record a podcast about ancient Rome or something, I had to like go into another room and freeze. I would not have taken a while.
But he's very, like, beyond sweet and helpful and, yeah, just very nice. He's helped us figure out our tech issues more than once. God, because, yeah. Yeah, it is hard to record a podcast with the cheapest equipment and software available. Okay, I need to thank a friend of the pod, Stephanie, who took our promo photos. She did that. We, like, just started. And I was like, well, we're going to need photos. She's a professional photographer. She took our photos for a muffin and a LaCroix. It's what she got paid for. We use them for everything. And also, I have never looked better. And I will continue using that one headshot of me until I die, I think.
I don't care that I don't really look like that anymore. They're so good. So yeah, she was just like so sweet and nice about it. And God, lovely, lovely. I need to thank my friend Olivia, who I have known since I think the seventh grade, who made our outro music for us for free.
She never received any compensation for that. That music slaps, too. It has such a, like, Stephen Bosco, like, NYPD Blue vibe. Oh, yeah. Thank you to whoever, I don't know, made the free royalty-free stock music that I took for the front end of the podcast. That is from the YouTube Free Music Library. Don't know who made that. Thank you to them, to that anonymous stranger. I think people like our song. It's worked out great. I think so. And it cost us nothing, and we did get a cease and desist from Unsolved Mysteries. That's another reason to stop. Stop while you're ahead.
oh yeah stop before we get into any legal letters are in the mail but by the time they get here we've already shut her it's like oh sorry that place doesn't exist uh brian duffy who's done so much artwork for us he's been putting up for me for uh you know oh god more than 20 years but a lot of the illustrations the illustration of you on that cover of a romance novel with mothman which i was like i have a surprise for you and you were like i do not know about this yes he's done so much of that stuff of the illustrations and stuff so thank you to him he's on a bunch of the coloring sheets they will be in the coloring book when that gets made Yeah, super helpful. Thank you. Thank you. Shout out to Angela, who's the only expert we ever had on the show. She was on for two episodes to discuss forensic handwriting analysis with us. And that's perhaps the only time we actually brought anything new. We brought anything helpful to the Unsolved Mysteries space, which we had an actual expert talk about handwriting analysis. That was very cool. Thank you to her for doing that. We have to thank our history nerd, Rochelle, who did a bunch of extra research for us, which guess what we weren't going to do, as well as our resident librarian, Megan. She sent in a bunch of other information about cases and things. And she's been so sweet.
so lovely thank you um and arden also frequent guest arden who's also our was our like uh merch model she was our instagram babe to get people to order shirts so she's the youngest person we know so obviously we got her to model She got a lot of shout outs mainly for being too young, but she's also so lovely and has been such a supportive, helpful friend with us and acted like, I don't know, it's cool, which maybe it's not. She has some very funny story that she was at work listening to a different podcast, but we had the like promo at the beginning and she was like, wait, wait a minute. Why are Liz and Samantha talking right now? One of the cooler things for me was when we got a shout out on the purple stuff because that's my favorite podcast. So that was pretty cool when Dinosaur Dracula, Matt Dinosaur Dracula told people to listen to our podcast. I was like, hold up, what? That's just like a little surreal.
out of body experience right for sure for sure um and then south point community acupuncture for being our p.o box this whole time even after i stopped working there thank you jessica and um Well, I was a guest on the Sip and Shine podcast and the Thrift Therapy podcast. I don't believe either of those podcasts exist anymore, but they both had me on as guests and acted like that was like a get or something. It's like, oh yeah, I guess it's like no one has ever heard of me, but thank you. It was a get. It made me feel important. That was just like really fun to do. I never really pictured myself doing that. I don't know, but that was just very cool. So thank you to them. And yeah, God damn it. Like all the listeners, everybody who's reviewed us or sent us nice messages or like.
boss coffee or any of that bullshit like we really really do appreciate it we're super touched and we just can't believe that anybody wants to listen to what we have to say and finds us amusing and it's just been such a good overall like super positive experience and that's why it's hard to say goodbye it is hard to say goodbye but we've i feel like we've done some good that's true we've donated money to stuff we've raised money for causes We've brought people together. We sold pet bandanas to help the library. Not every podcast is willing to sew. We, like, we sewed and sold pet bandanas that I then sent out. Like, what? Anyway, yeah, we've raised money for stuff, for different things over the years. I mean, I think there is, like, the blessing of this not, you know, making us a billion dollars and changing our lives financially is that we've been beholden to no one. So that's... Other than Repod, but they don't exist anymore. They don't exist anymore, and they also didn't really tell us what to do. So, I mean, I was, like, still on there bashing Amazon or whatever. They never were like, hey, Liz.
Could you cool it with blaming capitalism for everything? And my answer was no. Give me more money. Give me more money. I don't know. Do you have a favorite episode, Samantha? That's so hard. I'm sorry. I should have just spread that on you. I also put a piece of bread in my mouth while you're asking that. Well, yeah. We're nothing if not professional. I know I've had favorite Patreon episodes. Certainly.
Now it just left my brain. No. I think doing like the Chicken People documentary was one of my favorites. I almost forgot about that one. Yeah, yeah. The various specials that we've done, I think have all been amazing. The Magic Rock episode, which I think is what was motivating us at the beginning was just to get to that episode. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a favorite? You know, I am going to give a shout out to our RIP AutoZone episode, which is the one from right after the murder of George Floyd. And that's a more serious episode than most of them are.
But I just feel like that is a rare example of I really said what I wanted to say. Like, I feel like I articulated myself well in that one, that singular instance. Or I feel like there's probably been a lot of times where I'm rambling and saying like, well, you know, racism is bad. And you've been at home going, yeah, Liz, I know. But you're not here, right? So I'm just like, I'm just trying desperately to make sure that I'm like communicating effectively and getting my message across. And I think sometimes I've, you know, overdone that. But I feel like that episode and just us being in Minnesota at that time.
That seems like kind of a, I don't want to say a high point, but that one definitely stands out to me. Yeah, I like it. And whatever episode I first used the rich person voice, whatever, or whatever I suddenly like, oh yeah, Samantha, for that rich person's mom. do you know what i'm talking about was that the reclusive i was muted sorry was that the reclusive corset maker no but that's such a good one that was a good one too we've seen we've had so many good ones there's gonna see the thing is as soon as we stop recording i'm gonna think of 10 000 more things that i want to say but the truth is that's always gonna be true i'm always gonna want to i'm definitely always gonna want to complain more always i'm definitely gonna be like oh but there's also these 500 things that were so sweet and funny and whatever it's just never it's never enough favorite episode could have been the one where we complained about joffrey that was really good that was so fun and amazing yeah people were so receptive to it behind us yeah i have fond memories of that episode too i think it's a really great way to respond to criticism i would really recommend that for anybody but also just like you know you don't have to really you can listen to other people's opinions but you don't have to agree so
you know, if someone is saying like, oh, the thing you're making is terrible and I hate it and it makes me want to die. You can just be like, okay. Yeah. You don't have to actually, when people have unfair criticisms of you, like you don't actually have to take them seriously. No. You can make fun of them. You can make memes for the pre-Raphaelite art of men being dragged to their watery graves and label it Liz's voice. It's fine. It doesn't matter. You know, you can reflect on things and be like, is this a valid criticism? I feel like most of the criticism we got has been so blatantly misogynist. It's been really easy to be like, no, I don't have to listen to that. Nevermind. Because it's always been like.
vocal fry or you know there's just oh there's like you sound like two hens or whatever it's like wow definitely not listening to you for sure so i hope i hope my voice did kill a few misogynists i hope that is my final legacy i can only hope we haven't been able to send all the men to the moon but we couldn't accomplish all our goals one of our yeah you know there's always going to be something left undone samantha and that's sending literally all men to the moon oh well we tried you know and Is everybody just take a moment to appreciate Samantha for putting up with me for this long? Not only does she have to talk to me on the record to make this podcast, but she listens to me complain. You have no idea. So much. And every year without even realizing it on her Christmas card, I write.
Samantha will correct me if this isn't true. Every year I write, like, thanks for another year of listening to me complain. Well, to be fair, on your Christmas card every year, I say Merry Christmas, bitch. So we're kind of even. It's beautiful. It's really beautiful. Yeah, I'm glad we have this record, in a way, of us becoming, like, that's so weird. Who has that? Just, like, documentation of us becoming friends. So I will be in the old folks home listening to my own podcast going, wow, that was a really good time.
you know what when we retire to anoka and buy our haunted mansion and pretend to ghost to haunt people who come on the ghost store we'll have so much time to start a new podcast maybe it's true like i i am feeling definitely emotional about this ending but i do also think that it will open us up to think about new stuff in a way that i am excited about because we've been thinking about this for so long and you know, I could have gone to high school almost twice by now, right? Like it's really been quite a while. So I'm excited to see once we open up that mental space, even more than our time, just like what now, what are we going to do? And I really don't have a great answer for people like, oh, what are you going to do next? Well, Samantha's become a master gardener. I don't really know. I'll be working on art stuff.
You can follow me on Instagram at everybodylikesliz. If Instagram goes kaput, which it very well might, I have everybodylikesliz.com. The website is back up. So you can see whatever creative projects I'm working on. But I'm not really sure what is in store for 2025. I'm excited to see where it takes you, though. I don't have a public platform and I'm not going to start one. So bye forever, I guess.
Love that. You might see me featured on Liz's Instagram from time to time, however. Sure. And if you want to send us a message, you can still leave us a five-star review. I mean, the old podcast will still exist. You can still do that, or you can email us at perhaps it's youpodcast. We're not going to shutter the Facebook group. We don't even run them, so that's kind of out of our hands. Anyway, I'm not super active on Facebook, but I am still on there as of now. And so you can still interact with each other in the same ways you have been. Occasionally, you might be able to interact with us on that platform. I don't...
I don't know if you have plans for the Perhaps It's You Instagram, if you're going to keep that going. I mean, we're not going to delete it, I don't think. Yeah, I'll just leave it up and I'll check on it from time to time. But it'll kind of just be a ghost town, I think. So our library of episodes isn't going to go anywhere. I don't know. We haven't really talked about what we're going to do with the Patreon episodes that we haven't. We've released a lot of Vault episodes, but we haven't released all of them. There's over 80 Patreon episodes. We haven't really talked about what we're going to do with that if we'll release them to the wider public. Obviously, we're not going to keep accepting your money when we finish putting out content.
But maybe that'll be available in some form at some time, those unreleased episodes. I don't know. We'll decide about that later. I know. I know. It's been so fun. I'm sad we didn't make it to the Mothman Festival, but I do blame COVID for that. COVID is 100% to blame. We had plans to go. And then we sort of realized that's not a thing we're really going to be able to do. We'd have to drive there. Neither of us want to sit in the car for that long. Yeah, physically, that was just like a really tasking. I don't know what we were thinking, but we did have the drive to go that one year. And I even called the hotel and they told us it was going to be like $1,000 or something completely ridiculous. And I went, I have to discuss this with my business partner.
Oh, yeah. Now we're business. We were business partners. My former businesswoman. Oh, my God. So, yes, we'll be done taking your money. The coloring books will still go out. Maybe a memorial zine will exist, but I'm not promising that. Yeah. Leave that last five star review, baby.
We'd love to hear, you know, I'm sure there'll be discussions in our Facebook group about, you know, what you loved about the podcast. I look forward to seeing everyone's reactions. I hope you're not sad to see it or too sad to see it end. I hope we can focus on how much we loved this thing that we made. I'm already so sentimental about it. It's kind of ridiculous.
I like that we are able to be sentimental about it. You know what I mean? Like, it never became something that we hated. We've loved it right up till the end. It's been an overwhelmingly positive experience overall. And so now we have this thing that we can look back on fondly. So I'm happy about that. I'm really happy about that. Yeah, even when I was complaining about making it, like even when we got on the mics and immediately were like, I don't want to make this today. I was enjoying complaining about it. We still had fun. Yeah, we still had fun. Like, I still enjoyed that.
I don't think we would have done it if we didn't enjoy it. And so even when it was hard to do sometimes, there was still a reason that we did it and we still enjoyed it and got a lot of fulfillment out of it. So it's just a project that I'm really fond of and will always have. And you can look back to us trying to record at the library and trying to get that cord in from the other room. And we were going to like cut a zip tie or something. We may have actually cut that zip tie. Sorry if anyone's listening from the park library. Because it's set up for recording music. We just needed two mics in the one room anyway, whatever. So funny to look back on stuff like that and be like, oh, yeah, we've really done a lot. We managed to like travel and go to all these events. And, you know, an extra shout out to the patrons. Like this podcast wouldn't have existed so long without you. If you didn't give money to this podcast, like I get it. I do. You're good with money. Good for you.
You made a wise financial decision. Yeah, you made a very good financial decision. But without people giving us whatever amount of money a month, we just want to be able to keep doing it because there's just like hosting fees and a bunch of expensive. And as we surpassed hundreds of episodes, the hosting fees got kind of expensive. So thank you for your money. Yeah, who knew? And it just enabled me and Samantha to do a bunch of fun stuff together, like the spooky train day stuff and the Halloween stuff that I don't know that we would have done as much of without that extra motivation. So an extra thank you to them. And I hope that that felt like it was worth your money.
This has never been about like trying to get as much money out of you as possible. So I remember when we first started the Patreon, like really debating, like, should we do this or not? Like we don't, I was like, no, for the wrong reasons. I was on the team. Like, I don't think anyone will give us one single dollar. This is no. And Samantha was like, well, we'll just see. And we put it up. We hadn't even offered any rewards yet. And people started signing up and it was like, okay, I guess people do want to support us. So that's amazing. It's just amazing to think about. Yeah. Thank you so much, everyone. Thank you for listening. You know, solve some mysteries or don't, but absolutely keep barking. Bye. Bye.
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