Perspectives on Stigma in Medical Care

In this powerful episode, hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller explore stigma from two deeply connected vantage points: the clinical world of healthcare and the lived reality of addiction and recovery. Dr. Christopher Suelzer, a retired internal medicine physician with decades of experience treating veterans, shares his perspective on how stigma within the medical community affects patient care and trust. Then, we meet Gloria Haynes, a woman in long-term recovery whose journey from addiction to becoming a respected peer recovery coach reveals the transformative power of support and self-worth. Together, their insights challenge us to dismantle bias and see the humanity behind the diagnosis.Segment 1: Professional Interview SummaryDr. Christopher Suelzer, a primary care physician and long-time advocate for veterans and people with substance use disorders, offers a candid look into the role healthcare providers play in perpetuating or alleviating stigma. He describes how stigmatizing assumptions—often subconscious—can erode trust, reduce treatment efficacy, and undermine patient autonomy. Drawing from real-life examples, he emphasizes that providers must challenge ingrained biases, receive better training, and prioritize compassion alongside clinical skill. Dr. Suelzer also explores the systemic nature of stigma, how language and charting practices reinforce it, and the urgent need for exposure to recovery narratives in medical education.Segment 2: Personal Story SummaryJodi Miller sits down with Gloria Haynes, a certified peer recovery coach and perinatal community health worker whose recovery journey began in a Cook County jail. Gloria recounts her descent from a fast-paced life in Chicago into addiction, homelessness, and incarceration. Through court-ordered treatment and a critical moment of surrender, she found her way into long-term recovery. Gloria’s story highlights the impact of supportive judges, the healing power of community, and the strength that comes from lived experience. Today, she works with pregnant and postpartum women, physicians, and recovery programs, using her voice to inspire connection, empathy, and change.TakeawaysStigma in healthcare can lead to delayed treatment, inadequate care, and broken trust between providers and patients.Recovery is not just possible—it’s powerful. Seeing people thrive in recovery changes how professionals understand substance use.Self-stigma is real, but connection, community, and purpose can break through shame and transform lives.Person-first, non-stigmatizing language matters. It shapes how people are perceived—and how they perceive themselves.Both systemic change and individual empathy are needed to truly support recovery in medical and community settings.Podcast InformationHosted by: Dean Babcock and Jodi MillerInterview Segment Producer: Angela ShamblinPersonal Story Producer: Shawn P NealExecutive Producer: Shawn P NealMixed at: AdvoCast Studio236Episode Hashtags#BeyondSubstance #RecoveryIsPossible #AddictionRecovery #StigmaFreeHealthcare #PeerRecovery #SubstanceUseDisorder #VeteransRecovery #DrChrisSuelzer #GloriaHaynes #JodiMiller #DeanBabcock #NaloxoneSavesLives #MATWorks #PersonFirstLanguage #EmpathyInMedicine #HealthcareBias #CHAMPIndiana #WeCare #ShawnPNeal #AdvoCastPodcast Information:Hosted by: Dean Babcock & Jodi MillerExecutive Producer: Shawn P NealAudio Engineer: Shawn P NealMixed at: AdvoCast Studio236