Perspectives with John Gruber
from Crossword Hosted by Jonathan Wold & Luke Carbis
John Gruber's Dithering podcast with Ben Thompson was the original inspiration for Crossword's 15-minute format. Five years later, John joins Luke and Jonathan for a wide-ranging conversation covering open versus closed platforms, the history and impact of Markdown, and a missed opportunity in WordPress. Luke goes on about the good old days, Jonathan starts thinking about a rival platform, and John makes a prediction for the ten-year follow-up episode.
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