Pete Enns: Changing Our Minds Around Certainty
Episode 101 of the The Pivot podcast, hosted by Andrew Osenga, titled "Pete Enns: Changing Our Minds Around Certainty" was published on October 14, 2025 and runs 57 minutes.
October 14, 2025 ·57m · The Pivot
Episode Description
Welcome to The Pivot—relaunched! Joining us this week is Pete Enns, author, Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, and cohost of The Bible For Normal People podcast. Pete emphasizes that his response to the question "What have you changed your mind about and why?" is constantly evolving, mirroring his own personal growth. He explores how embracing change respects both our human experience and individual journeys. The discussion also reveals how God, and faith broadly, accommodates questions rather than offering definitive answers.
Thought-Provoking Quotes:
“I’ve changed my mind on a lot of things, and sometimes it’s still like, I used to know, but I don’t think I know that anymore. I used to think this, but now I think something differently. And that’s why I’m open to change about pretty much anything, even some of the most fundamental questions.” - Pete Enns
“We live in a universe that is filled with mystery. The more we see things, the more we see what we don’t, and things that were certain become less certain, not because science is stupid, but because science is skeptical and it moves forward and it sees things and has to make measurements and tests.” - Pete Enns
“I think primarily my goal is to let [people] know that the Christian world allows discussions and even encourages them, which is not what they hear on TV, like it’s one thing or nothing. God can handle it. Maybe God even likes the questions.” - Pete Enns
“Evolving faith is redundant. Faith always evolves or changes. It never stays the same, because human beings, we’re growing, we’re developing.” - Pete Enns
“I do not think about God the same way now that I did when I was 24, 25. How could you? You live, you breathe, you experience things.” - Pete Enns
“God is always affected by our experiences and our intuitions. You’ve probably heard, ‘Don’t trust your intuitions, don’t trust your feelings. Those things are irrelevant.’ But that’s what makes us human. Our emotions, our experiences, our intuitions, are always involved in how we think about God. To accept that, I think, is just simply to honor our humanity.” - Pete Enns
“The Bible is more of an invitation to communion than it is the divine answer book that answers all the questions we might have.” - Pete Enns
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
Westminster Theological Seminary
The Sin Of Certainty by Pete Enns
Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss
What to Expect When You’re Expecting by Heidi Murkoff
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
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*All episode music is by Andrew Osenga.
Guest’s Links:
The Bible for Normal People Website
The Bible for Normal People TikTok
The Bible for Normal People Facebook
The Bible for Normal People Instagram
The Bible for Normal People YouTube
Connect with Andrew:
How to Remember by Andrew Osenga
Hold the Light by Andrew Osenga
*The Pivot is produced in conjunction with Four Eyes Media.
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