Hey everybody, it's Jason Ellis who's like kind of a comedian now. I'm on the road. The Jason Ellis.com is where you can see all my tour dates and you can buy tickets from the same website. Crazy right?
Chicago man, Zaines on April 30th. I'm going to be there. Are you in Nashville, Tennessee? Because May 1st, I'm going to be there too.
What about Miami? Yeah, May 21st, I'll be there. And then the modern theater in, in, I can, what? I don't know what it is, but it's in Florida.
I'm going to be in O'Kahler, May 23rd. If you know, if you're in O'Kahler and I'm saying it wrong, you know what I'm saying, it's in Florida and I'm going to be there. And then Canadians, I'm coming to Canada. So watch out, every ten, I'm going to smash.
I would say this, you don't have to agree. But after this, I think we're friends. All three of us. But like, holy fuck, this wasn't the friendship I was going to have.
Seeing any of his ear, I feel like cats have like sensitive hearing and he was just putting his ear where I was singing. He didn't seem to really care. Jesus, dude, get a room. Dude, you guys mouth right up in, like you know when Aerosmith's saying sweet emotion and they both get up on the phone?
That was what happened with Rumble Bean. How often do you think Joe Parry accidentally made out with Stephen Tyler in the 70s? I don't know. On stage.
Because I mean they were hammered. Yeah, well, like you guys remember the some kind of monster documentary with you? Of course we did. Yeah, this is going to hurt.
I don't know if you should do it. Uh huh. What was your least favorite part? Going.
Oh, Lisa, well, there's a part where every part was. It was really, well, they were like talking about how like they would take showers. Take it up. Like, bang women in the showers and then sometimes the lines got blurred.
And I was like, but yeah, I'll get just said that they're gay. That's wild. Wait, what? I didn't catch that bit.
Yeah, I was in the documentary and I was like, well, that's weird. Wait, the lines? No, you went there in your head. Maybe the line's got crossed as in maybe they slept with somebody else's girl.
Oh, you think that's what it was? Yeah. Oh, all right. I've interviewed Metallica.
James said to me, like, exit only. All right. So he was like, well, I would assume he'd be the top and any sexual. Okay.
Yeah. Mutation. Yeah. Who tops headfield?
A lot of any Metallica lineup past or present? I hate this episode. All right, dude. I'll go.
No, I love that you're like, I interviewed him. He was like, no homo. Because I was one of those things where I idolize a guy and somehow I talked about a question that made him answer it with exit only even though I clearly wasn't asking him, does he enjoy anal? I just said something where he caught.
I don't know where it went, but he said, I remember he said on the phone, no, dude, exit only. And I was like, no, this is what I meant. And I'm not like, oh, no, I'm not. Yeah, we're not going there.
I wasn't trying to go there. James headfield. It was, I felt I remember, like, I don't know the interview. I just remembered that bit.
And as far as I was concerned, my life had been ruined. All right. Well, I'm a huge Metallica fan. And so I apologize the right way I called them gay, but if they don't want to be, but I don't know, that's what I thought because they were like all in the shower together, banging women.
I don't know. Maybe I don't know. I never. Wow.
It's crazy that there were so many shocking things in that documentary that two out of three of us don't even remember that moment. Jake, there's no way you can there's no way you can get that. Like, I want to hear how that was said. By the way, we were starting out the episode and there's already something that's going to make people like be totally shitting the comments.
And I love that, which is what just call them and tell you, yeah. No, if anybody should be triggered, it should be me. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm which is weird because I've done gay stuff and there's nothing wrong with that. No, I don't want to tell. Like, I feel I can be wrong, but I feel like James and Lars are super not gay. Yeah.
But I do think last is done enough, Coke to to accidentally have done something that would be perceived as. Yeah. But is we don't need to say that you don't need to say, but all right, let me just say lines were blurred. I took it the wrong way.
I'm wrong. But you're I would think that you're the smarter out of the two of us. Dude, I don't know that I am. You and I both skateboard.
I've had a lot of concussions and I don't know. But I just was like, they were talking about being in the shower with each other. Like, by the way, band, a bunch of chicks with your friends, like in a shower, super rock star. Yeah.
But like, if I was doing it, I'd be like, maybe this is gay. I don't know. I don't know. You're right.
When you were younger and it was the the the horny, like young guy where it was like, we're going to, I'm going to let you do me right now. And you're like, OK, but when you're older, someone's like, I want you to do me right now. And I'm like, I'm not doing you in front of my friend. That's freaking gross.
Yeah. Back then it was like, Oh, yeah. And then maybe regret it a little bit afterwards. But if you're drunk and wasted, then you don't you can definitely like, I hate doing this.
But there's this. I can't remember all the times where that has not faced me. Yeah. I've just gone.
I've done it in front of guys where they're like, are you and I'm like, hell yeah, I am. And then I'm like, you know, I'm going to knuckle it out after it. Like, dude, I was just bone that chick in the same room as me. And I'm like, I did it in a car with you.
I did it in a van with you. Like I didn't know I didn't see any gain. And it was more like this goes coffin it up. And I'm not going to that.
You know what's gay saying? No. Yeah, that's what's gay. Yeah.
Have you ever said no to a girl and then like, because I say no to a girl, the girls all the time, the other way, they're number one thing. It's like, what are you gay? And I'm like, that's so funny. Yeah, that is that is really fun.
I'm like, you never get told no. It's a very white dude comment. Yeah. Yeah.
Like, what are you gay? And I'm like, no, you're just not that hot. How about that? Like, wrap your head around that one.
Or I am in a relationship and I'm not a fucking bimbo. Yeah. Like, I don't know. When I was younger, I used to think that everyone on the road was gold.
And I'm like, no, that's full as gold. Like, I don't want that. And you're older and wiser. Dude, yeah, my dick is an old wise man.
You're the horse, right? I'm divorced twice. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
It's all right. Three times. Three times. I'm going to talk about.
I'm still losing. I'm still working on my first. Yeah. Wait, are you?
Shut up, Michael. Yeah. You're better than us. Yeah.
I'm still listening to NPR. You're good person. Yeah. And his house hasn't burned down.
He's a bitch. Oh, dude. Yeah. By the way, I told you I didn't talk to anybody today.
My brain is just starting to brain right now. My brain is just starting to be. Yeah. The first couple sentences, I was like, oh, this is not working.
You're good. It's odd. And this is something you'd only know in our line of work when the first words that you speak all day come back to you through headphones. It can be a little joke.
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I didn't talk to anybody.
And then you get backstage and they're like, we assumed you didn't want anybody to talk to you. And I'm like, no, I need people. Yeah. Like the waiter, I'll be like, will you take my order for 15 minutes?
I just need to talk to somebody. I kind of like the on the road not talking. And then like, because it's like, to me, I have a certain amount. Yeah.
And it's like, from doing the radio for 20 years, there was a time where I would do so much that when the show would end, new friends would always say, like, is there something wrong? And I'm like, what? And like, you just don't seem like you are on the radio. And I'm like, dude, that's me squeezing everything I've got out.
Like, is it me? Because my radio show was definitely like, this is like, this is I am who I am. I talk about what's in my life. Yeah.
But it's also, you know, there's times where I was on the radio where I'm like, I want to say anything to anybody. Yeah. But instead, I'm going to scream it. Yeah.
You know, so then with ends, I have nothing to say. I'm like, I'm not sad. I'm just, I need to not talk for a little bit. And I think that with the comedy being on the road traveling, especially when you look like many people don't talk to me.
They're scared of me. Oh, yeah. So I just sit there with resting bitch face by myself thinking of stuff. You know, green room, if it's new guys, new guys don't approach me that much either.
They're like, oh, hey, is it cool if I'm going to do 15? I'm like, yeah, man, it's fine. Great. You know, I've never like fuck off.
I'm like, yeah, man, like whatever you want to do, whatever you're comfortable with. I'm very approachable, but it still doesn't. It's usually after the show they'll talk to me, but I kind of like the. It's nothing and then it's go because it's like the battery is completely full.
Yeah. I mean, like, you know, drug wise, like the biggest thing you feel is a transition, you know, being sober and high. And like, yeah, I guess you're like hit me. Give me all the adrenaline.
All right. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes a whole sense. It's so funny that you're unapproachable.
Holy shit, dude, I'm the most approachable person. And like I started to do me failing. I go, I was like, what's it like to have everyone be famous for being nice? And he goes, well, he goes, you know, when I go, oh God, I go, I'm literally currently building the prison that you've already built for yourself.
And like, I now I'm just finally getting recognized and I walk through airports and people like, hey, dude, after my house, bring out old ladies, they grab your upper arm and they lock you in. And they go, I'm so sorry about your house. And I'm like, oh fucking lady, it's seven in the morning. It is really cute.
But imagine, imagine you, and I barely complain about it. Imagine you were walking through your day, you're crusted, and then now you're in a surprise funeral procession line, you know, where like, oh, fuck, this lady just brought up the saddest thing in my life. Yeah. And then you also, you don't want to be rude.
And you thank you. Thank you so much. But then they go, no, but how are you? And I'm like, oh, that question.
Right. Yeah, I can relate to that a thousand percent. Like when I got divorced, it was serious. I got fired, got divorced.
Like everything was falling apart. And I was moving into comedy. And like, as you know, like, that doesn't like, that's not an overnight thing. That's like a even bigger kick in the dick.
It's like, oh, yeah, you want to be in comedy? Well, just so you know, you suck. So enjoy that. Yeah.
And then every now and then somebody would be like, oh, no, wait, Jason, man. Yeah, that's got to be tough. She's doing good, though. And I'm like, yeah.
Oh, yeah. The worst thing is when you're at a party, right? And like, I'm a pretty social person. I fucking love people, but you're at a party and you're having a good time.
And then the empath comes up to you when you're going through some shit and goes, how are you? And you're like, I'm good. I'm good. I'm demanding a real answer.
Yeah. But no, seriously, how good are you? Yeah. Like they won't take a no.
Come on. I know you're going through like, you know, look around. We're having a good time. Like where I just went to the kitchen to refill my toastados and but no, but really how are you?
I'm like, oh my God, this isn't the time because I'm a cryer. I'll fucking cry. Me too. And I'll just cry.
It's healthy. Yeah, it is. It really is healthy to get out. Ever since my house burned down, like at the Comedy Cellar, everyone's in one, I'll just start crying, which is funny because that table is like, you know, it was the tree so kneel table, you know, like hardcore roasters.
And now I'll just be there and I'll be like, ah, shit, no man, I got to cry. I go to the front table and I cry and then everybody just accepts it. And yeah, it's fucking wild. You had no problem with that at all, dude.
I feel like there was a time there where I grew up. You don't cry. Yeah, my father never did. So I felt like if I did it made me weak.
Yeah. And then, you know, the amount of stuff that I went through in my life and I think it was just the point where people knew so much about me and my failures and successes, but failure mainly, you know, because of social media, they want to roast you for it. That I just gave up on whether you think I'm cool anymore. Oh, yeah.
And I was just like, you know what, I'm not that tough, you know, like, and it kind of and no, this wasn't overnight, but in a way, over time, I realized that I'm tough for the most of you because I would admit it. Yeah. And like you're all don't act like all the angriest guys in the world. That's you fighting back tears, dude.
You know how I know that because I was that angry guy. Yeah. Well, I mean, fear and anger and depression. Oh, that's all one number.
And so it comes out as one thing or another. And I don't know. Yeah. I like one of my biggest anxieties was that I would just go somewhere and cry.
And like, and now it's funny because like I got through two divorces and a house brain down and I just went to jail, which is fucking crazy. I saved a guy's life. I was hammered. It was on the anniversary of my house brain down and I was fucking.
I was like, so drunk that I was. How's it burned down when everybody else's has burned down? No, burnout. No, it did.
It's already been a year. No, the month anniversary. OK, OK, my brain is not. Dude, no, but I was like right there with you.
I was like, I lose a year. It's entirely positive. Yeah, no, no. No.
So it was like it was right after it. Right after it. So like I went through divorce, fire, and then I was just like I was like coping with booze. And I like and I was so drunk that like I was literally going, I'm going to me, but I was just fucking walking on the street.
I'm going to me, but and I was going into this diner to get eggs. So I get emotional. I talk about this. Well, wait, wait, no, I'm not sorry.
We're just so we're not sorry, right? No, but I cry on the show. Yeah. Oh, frying is strength leaving the body, I believe.
All right. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I cry. I feel like a clip where your crying goes viral way. Oh, then hook us up.
Hold on. It's mainland some tears, bro. Hold on. Let me chop some onions.
Yeah. Anyway, I did just have him here. Yeah, we had that idea once before. Oh, I'm sorry.
Please. Pete, continue. Um, I so I was a martial artist, which, you know, you're a martial artist, but like I'm 47. So I'm like, you know, the special message you did.
Uh, Taekwondo, hapito, a kickbox. Shit. Um, so but like one of my favorite songs is by tool. It's invincible and it's all about being an aging warrior.
And I'm like, dude, I don't have skills anymore. And anyway, this diner owner comes out of the diner and he's fighting a busboy and he punches him and knocks him out into me. And just instantly I was like sober for a second and I've all sand volleyball dove and caught the dude's head. So didn't hit the ground?
Yeah. That's the worst part of it. Yeah. Well, it's split my hand open.
Like that was the force. And so I'm bleeding all over the place and the diner comes over to like finish them off. And I push him away as I see and he falls down and scratches his elbow and then the police get there. And then dude, I got my ass kicked by the car.
Yeah. Wait, the guy that hit the guy and tried to finish the guy after you saved his head from snapping open on the concrete and I also said the cops, you're the one that did all of it and all you were doing was walking past this guy sounds like an asshole. Yeah. I was actually going into his diner to eat right.
And I was like, uh, yeah, I was like, and then so and I also saved him from a manslaughter charge. Yeah. Like because dude, the force that that had would have hit like, dude, everybody talks about a kickboxing, boxing the, the concussion you get is bad enough, but it's the one where you're asleep on your way down and the whipping of the back of the head. It's a, that's what like, that's why I've always said, like getting knocked out and fighting.
It's not good, but skateboarding, getting knocked out. Like the one, the concussions I've had from skateboarding, I've never woke up in hospital from getting kicked in the face, but I've whipped off on a skateboard where I woke up in hospital. I was completely gone in another world for a long period of time, heavy concussions. Nobody's hand and foot can do it the same way.
And that concussion where you get hit and you fall and then you whip the back of your head, that is, that's why people die. Yeah, dude. Like, and it was weird because like I've seen enough fights and I've been enough fights where like, like it's that it's this body motion where it's the neck. And then have you ever seen a hip and it just be like, I can, I can balance between two chairs and you walk on me.
Like there's like, there's like ragdoll knocked out and then there's like, like stiff. Yeah, you get stiff. And I was like, I just was like, fucking, I dove and I caught it. And then my hand was on the ground like this.
So I was in a, not a position of strength. And dude, when I shoved the guy away, I shoved him as hard as I could. And, and like, dude, he, I was like adrenaline, like he fucking flew. And then he slipped and I was like, Oh, fuck.
And, and then the cops were like instantly there. But it's still, like, I mean, if you're telling the truth, yeah, I assume you are. Yeah. This guy, like when somebody gets knocked to the ground and they go in to finish again, it's kind of cold hearted, you know, like I've had profiles, dude.
I've had guys down when they're down. I have not that guy, you know, like the ref doesn't need to pull me off. And the guy that you saved initially didn't verbalize. No, he was still out.
Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I hope your audience isn't too sensitive to understand. That dude is fucking Mexican. And I don't think he was here legally and he got up and ran.
And I remember he gave me a look that was like, like, thank you, but I'm fucking gone. And I was like, Oh, okay. Oh, wow. And I was just like standing there.
And the cops were like, because the bad guy was like, that's the guy. I was so drunk, I couldn't even talk my way out. I was like, no, I saved his life. I was like my hand and they go, they go, that's from punching.
And I go, you don't punch with these knuckles. Yeah. And the cops are like, what do you know about punching? I was like, a lot shit.
This isn't going on. And they, they handcuffed me and the diner guys, their friend. So they kicked the shit out of me. Wait, they assaulted you.
Yeah. Did you resist the rest? Um, yeah. OK.
Yeah. But this guy probably gives him a letter for coffee. I think I think they get to take shit to this diner. Right.
When the cops assaulted you, can you explain like what the strikes were? Sorry for if that's. OK. But I really am interested in police.
OK. Like what blows they give you because I kind of want it. Yeah. Well, first of all, I've been doing a joke on stage.
I'm like, do you know how the police win fights handcuffs? Yeah. Like, dude, I always make it easy to win. But the first two dudes that were trying to get the handcuffs on me, I'm a keto guy.
So I like, like, literally was behind my back tweaking their wrist. So like, I probably fractured a bone in both of her in the wrist. It's the end of the soul police. Yeah, which by the way, I know it's cool to be like, fuck the police.
Like, I love the police. Yeah. I have a stalker in the police save my life so many times. But this is bad behavior.
I didn't. I should have done that. And yeah, and then I just got real rowdy. I, but dude, it was it fucked me up for a long time that I wasn't able to fight the police, you know, like, because I used to fight like when in Taekwondo, you'd fight in groups, maybe one in five.
And I could always hold my own. And I was like, oh, shit, like, I was laying in jail going, oh, I'm fuckable. Like, and I was like, dude, I'm a dangerous thing to realize. No, I don't like I'm a martial artist or I was aging warrior, but like, I don't walk around.
I de-escalate everything. But like, I just kind of was walking the earth going, oh, I could, I'm fine. Like, I could take you. I could take, I don't think I could take you, but I don't even want to try it.
But I went, oh, shit, maybe I can't. Oh, this is interesting. Now, this is something you guys totally have in common. Yeah.
Yeah. That you walk around, like, I'm not looking for it. I'm actively trying to avoid it. I'm actually looking to de-escalate.
But I'm armed with the knowledge push comes to, push comes to, I could pretty much clean house if I have to. Yeah. And you're confronting that maybe that was the case, but is no longer, which is something inevitably at some point you'll have to do as well. Yeah.
I mean, to me, it's, that makes me more of a man. You mean, taking a lickin, it's good for you. Oh, dude. I was very fortunate.
I had like a name being a pro skateboard. A lot of the gyms that I got to train with, I trained with the best dudes in the world. And I was never at their level, but I was inspiring with the best dudes in the world. And I got, you know, I got humbled for so many years when I had pro fights.
I usually kind of, I would win because the guy I thought was like me. It was just a guy. Like the people that I would train with were like, were, you know, they had belts. Yeah.
From, from the biggest organizations in the world. And they'd be like, go for you, Jake, keep working. And I'd be like, this guy's training me like I'm a toddler. Yeah.
Yeah. And you're like a giant guy and you're like, you're scaring like all that stuff. And yeah. But yeah, I mean, there is power in that.
And like, I don't know, I like, I've been working with my therapist. She was a ground troop Marine and she's like, she's like, Pete, don't be scaringable. Well, I, so I went to court and I got, I know I have a violation for disorderly conduct. And so that's why I think I can talk about this.
But I'm not going to go into detail because, but I watched the tape and it's at five angles from five different comps. Cool. And then I have it, but I was out to dinner with my manager last night. I'm like, I'm not showing anybody.
Oh, there's a, I might be vulnerable. I'm going to be vulnerable. I'm going to tell you the awesome part that's not awesome and then I'm going to be vulnerable. So I had been terrified for like a month because think about it.
Like I was like, Oh, fuck, I can't, I can't fight. I can't beat people up and then immediately I'm in New York jail. So I was like in the scariest place you can be right after you found out that you can't fight anymore. And then I got out and it was like, so there's a long period of time between the court case where, and you know, I'm like, God, I just feel fucking vulnerable.
I was like walking around kind of scared and then my lawyer sent me the video and he goes, Hey, he goes, I'm going to send you the video. He goes in, he's not good. He goes, it's not the way you remember it. He goes, you did catch the guy said, you did save his life.
He goes, you did push the guy. He goes, there's just something that if we don't strike a deal with the DA, he goes, it's not going to be good. I was like, Oh, okay. And I'm like, what the fuck did I do?
Dude, when I resisted arrest, again, I'm going to go into detail. I held my own against five out of the six. And that's bad. And by the way, every black friend that I know is like, if you weren't white, you're totally I was I was about to say like, if you had got any better, they might have shot you.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was. So then I got the beat down in my life, which like you've had beat downs and like you fought.
So it feels so bad. It almost feels good. You know, like, and like, like one of these bros, he Bruce three, my ribs, they're still Bruce because they take a long time to heal. Yeah.
And I remember he did that. I was like, all right, that one's really bad. Yeah. And, but yeah, I was so I was like, I was crying during the beat down.
And I, here's how it ended. I go, I go stop beating me. I go, I'm famous. Which we both know that I'm not famous.
Like, like, I know. Oh, I got to do what I just said. Dude, I would have kicked you again. I think they did.
I'm thinking about it right now. Yeah. Yeah. No, you did not.
Boo. I was, I had used, I had used my legs and my, my, and my fists and I already handcuffed. Like, and I started to win again with handcuffs that were chained to the thing, but I realized I had four inches of play and I swept, I swept two of them down. And I was like, I know.
And by the way, if anybody's listening to this, like you don't respect the law, blah, blah, blah, fair enough. Yeah. But you don't, you can punish me if you think that's what, but like, yeah, I've literally gone to jail and court and whatever. And it was wrong.
But I saw the video and I called my therapist and I was like, oh my God, I mean, we need to talk. And she goes, what? I go, not proud of this. Full remorse.
I go, turns out, I'm not such a bad fighter. And it like, like knowing that I actually held my own more than I wish, I wish I wouldn't have, but knowing that. I don't know if you do. I don't know.
Wait, have remorse? I know I'm sure you have remorse, but I think that the thing that was bothering you the most is that you can't fight and now you know, you can. Yeah. Okay.
With the consequences. Yeah. I think you're disappointed that you beat up some cops and, and disrespect to the 30, but I think you were way more disappointed when you thought you couldn't. That's what I'm kidding.
100%. And my therapist, she was an Afghanistan marine ground troop and she was like, yeah, that's the fucking warrior. And I was like, all right, cool. So like, as a life moment, bad, very bad.
Yeah. As a self esteem therapy moment, really fucking great. Yeah. Two truths can be in opposition to each other and be true at the same time.
Of course. I'll tell you. I don't think simple minds can't understand that. Yeah.
And there's probably gonna be people listening to this. I don't know. You know what? You're gonna go fuck you.
Okay. Fuck you too. I don't know. It's you.
You're not a bad person. Well, can we might have a drinking problem? You're not a bad person. I mean, I did.
And then I also told you that last night I had a few whiskeys. But generally speaking, I only drink like one night a week. And I'm going into a comedy festival. So yeah.
Yeah. You said you're gonna leave it. Yeah, this is your life. You're doing what you gotta do.
Yeah. Well, honestly, since jail, I probably drank, which is the way so many great sentences started. You hear that? No, but since jail, I probably drank four nights.
Okay. And that's been how long? February. Yeah, everybody.
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So yeah, nothing I say is so incredible. You know what's helped me with this stuff? Because I've always thought of myself as a first of all, I was a pretend tough guy. Then I put in, you know, I've been training for like 20 years.
Like I said, I've been being by a lot of people. I've been, I've moved around with people that are gym. Most of the people that I move around with are way younger, better athletes and me. They can't touch me.
I can't touch me. I can smash most people. But I know that on the streets, you know, that my mouth, I'm somebody, like if you pick on somebody, I'm going to help. Like if it's like a girl or somebody is little and it's a group, I'm going to step in and that's come the beat down is coming for me.
I'm saying, yeah, and to me, I have to come to turn. It's like for my sobriety, I have to come to terms with I'm not going to be here forever. I'm going to die and I have to be okay with that. And that's because it used to bother me.
It used to like irritate me that like one day it's going to end and I leave in this little bit of fear everywhere I go all the time because one day it's going to end. One day I'm going to be so old that one day I'm not going to remember me one day in my arms not going to work. It's like skateboarding like one day I'm not going to be able to skate the way I can't skate. You know, I'm ready to, especially these days, a lot of people talk a lot of tough stuff and I'm like, push comes to shove and you see me on the street.
Let's say there's a group of you and you're like, oh, no, you think you're tough now? And I'll be like, I never said I was tough. I just said, because I'm scared. I'm scared to fight.
I'm definitely scared to fight like five people at a time. But if you want to go, we can go and if you knock me out, you can knock me out and I'll wake up and I'll go to the hospital and get taken care of. One way or the other, I will not be intimidated by anybody ever. I'm okay with dying.
I'm okay with being knocked out. I'm okay with breaking my arm. I'm okay with all the damage that the welcome bring to me because I've seen it. I've felt it and I accept it.
If it happens, it happens. I'm not looking for it, but I don't sweat you. I don't sweat anybody. So you cannot intimidate me anymore.
If you go to pull a gun, I'm like, okay, well, that shows me your most gay than me. Because if you're really a man, put the gun down and let's do it hand to hand. And if you get slept, when you wake up, I'll help you up. And obviously most people don't play it like that, but I will not live in fear from anything anymore.
So when things like that happen to me, I just get calm because I'm like, I better be at my best. And if you win, you win. Yeah. And I've never thought I'd get calm and I get happy.
It's weird. It's like, and happy, happy. My friends saw me fight years ago and they go, you're a psycho. They go, you got, you, it was pure joy.
I was like, well, fighting a street fight or like street fight. Yeah. Okay. Wow.
And, but it didn't go very far. Jesus, Pete. I know. But my friends were like, you're a psycho.
You were enjoying that. I was like, Oh, yeah, I love fighting. But I mean, you don't take martial arts because you hate it. Yeah.
And, but they were like, no, the happiness level that you had was crazy. And I was like, well, I don't know. I always fought happy. My kickboxing instructor was this.
He was like the Muhammad Ali of kickboxing James Berghans and he fought happy and like, I don't know. But did you always fight? You're not a good father. Did you always fight happy was there ever a time that you weren't a fighter?
No, I mean, my brothers and I, we fought all the time and like, we fought neighbors. There was these neighbors that we had the blazers. There were eight of them in three of us and we would meet in the woods like every other day and like, they're training now. Like you got to take days off or whatever.
We're like, no days off. We're fighting the blazers again. I mean, older people take days off. You have to put them.
Yeah. Well, I'm old and I take days off. Like dude, we fight the blazers every day. And every time, every day, like, like minions, the brains are just reset.
I think we can beat up the leaves. I'm like, and they just never could. And yes, I grew up fighting and then I saw. There's eight of them.
What if it must have been very little? Yeah. He's more of a cheerleader. Yeah.
I hope you at least fought him last. I don't know. It's like, I don't know. It's kind of like if you're in a fight and a dog's nipping at your ankles, you know, you don't get it away.
But anyway, like, you don't want to fight. There's a saying my master, master Fox used to say, which by the way, something made up master. And I never want to fight because one person goes to the hospital, one person goes to jail. And so I've always de-escalated.
Like, I had this ex that should start shit with other women at bars. And I do come up to me and I remember we're in near city. So he comes up to me and he's like, what did you try to do? And I go, all right, that's good.
And he goes, what? I go, that's good. I go walk with me. And he's like, no, man, I go get angry, get angry.
And he's like, what? I go push me. I go push me. I go, you're girls looking.
And he's like, what the fuck? And I go, dude, we're not going to fight. We're not going to fight. And he's like, what?
There was a moment where he was like, oh shit, this guy is about to annihilate me. And he's joyful. And by the way, I had my whole and I ended up buying him a beer. But I made him look like he was sticking off of his girl and controlled the whole situation.
And then, yeah, there was no fight. Yeah, did winning is ever rated. De-escalate. In the gym winning?
Yeah. On the street? I don't know. I really avoided it all costs.
But I have heard people on the street before and I didn't feel victorious at all. I felt really bad. I know there's people out there that like that and celebrate after it. Anybody that I've ever knocked out before, I was like, oh my God.
This is terrible. Like I'm not that person. I know there's plenty of us out there that are into that. But I am.
It freaks me out. I'm worried about their safety. I don't know if I'm choking people out. I don't like knocking people out.
I don't like hurting people, man. Really? Like if it's for the sake of competition, because I'm a competitor, I want to win. But I don't want to hurt anybody.
Yeah. When I say I get happy to fight, I'm happy to fight the physical interaction, the technique. But like the last Street Fighter was in, other than the cops. This is the last place I thought this was going to go today.