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EPISODE · Jan 15, 2026 · 1H 26M

Pete Rock on CL Smooth split, Nas & 'Illmatic,' 50 Cent & G.O.A.T. hip hop producers

from Joe and Jada · host iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by hip hop producer legend of legends Pete Rock. The iconic beat maker tells Joe and Jada about his falling out with former group mate CL Smooth, their legendary "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" song, the story behind producing "The World Is Yours" for Nas on his incomparable 1994 debut 'Illmatic,' the Dr. Dre and DJ Premier beats he wishes he had made, his top five producers that rap, the call he got that led to him producing "Down With The King" for Run-DMC, and how he heard 50 Cent's "How To Rob" before the rest of the world did. They also debate whether Ice-T or KRS-One can claim to be the first gangsta rapper, if Nas' "Ether" diss for Jay-Z is the hottest beef record of all time, and what the pioneers need to do to help protect the culture. 5:00 - Heavy D's influence 8:00 - Split with CL Smooth 13:30 - "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" 20:00 - Run-DMC 23:00 - Producing "The World Is Yours" for Nas 32:30 - Why MC Shan was dissing him 39:30 - Jada fans out over "Don't Curse" 47:00 - Top 5 producers that rap 49:30 - Knicks & Giannis talk 1:00:00 - Fat Joe & his neighborhood Hermes bum 1:10:00 - Styles P's "Gangster, Gangster" feat. Jada & Sheek Louch 1:15:30 - Beats Pete Rock wishes he made 1:18:30 - Hottest beef records & first gangsta rapper 1:28:00 - Hip hop pioneers need to step up 1:31:30 - Favorite instruments to sample [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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