PFAS In Turnout Gear with Guest Dr. Graham Peaslee

Send us Fan MailTurnout gear is supposed to be the last line of defense, so what happens when the fabric itself contains PFAS forever chemicals that were never clearly disclosed? This week, we pulled a crucial interview from our archives with Dr. Graham Peasley, the researcher who tested dozens of firefighter turnout gear sets and found fluorine consistent with PFAS treatments across manufacturers, enough that his lab changed how they handled the samples. We talk about what that discovery means for firefighters who wear the gear, touch it daily, and store it around the station and sometimes at home. We also slow down and make the numbers make sense. Parts per trillion versus parts per billion is not a trivia question when PFOA and PFOS have documented links to cancers and immune impacts at very low levels. We address the online pushback and the consultant op-ed culture head-on: how to evaluate sources, what “trace” really implies, and why uncertainty about skin absorption is not the same as safety. Along the way we cover real exposure pathways, from hand transfer to station dust, and how AFFF firefighting foam fits into the broader PFAS story. Then we get practical. We share straightforward steps departments can take now: keep gear at work, wash and decon consistently, rethink storage locations, and treat labeling and ingredient disclosure like essential safety information. We also dig into the hard end-of-life problem: landfilling vs high-temperature incineration, and why repurposing old gear into bags or blankets can create new risks. If you care about firefighter health, PFAS exposure, and fluorine-free turnout gear that still meets NFPA performance needs, this conversation gives you a clear place to start. Subscribe, share this with your crew, and leave a review so more firefighters can find it. What policy change would you implement first at your station?DISCLAIMERThe views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of AFSO21's Weekend Wrap-up Podcast and its hosts. Furthermore, any views or opinions expressed by guests are their own alone and unless otherwise stated, do not reflect the opinions, beliefs, or official policies of any organization, institution, or employer they may be associated with or employed by.  Support the showContact AFSO21's Weekend Wrap-up Podcast - Email us at [email protected] always, keep supporting your local fire and emergency services, stay safe, and keep on listening!