Phenomena (1985)

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For back with another episode of Horror Movie Night in this week, we're talking about a movie that Scott picked. Oh my god, I almost said fantastic. Phenomena, also known as Creepers, as it was released in New York. Hardly knowers!

Yes! Now Scott, I have a couple guesses on why you picked this one. First of all, maybe the star of the movie. Probably not the star of the movie.

I will tell you. We'll get to that. OK, but I know that this is one that dates way back to the Reddit Horror Club days where someone picked this movie that you and I had talked about being huge fans of. And I'm going to throw this out there.

I feel pretty confident in saying this is my favorite Dario movie. You know who else says this is his favorite movie? Dario Argento says this is his favorite Dario Argento. Really?

Good, which is a good one. All right, so Scott, why is his most bombastic and least misogynistic? I want to clear it is. It's like, it kind of is really nice.

But you know what? And we're going to get there. Obviously, we've got so much plot to talk about. But holy shit, the speed run that is the last 10 minutes of this movie is is unbelievable.

Like, like there's part of me that's like, I don't even want people to watch the whole movie. I just want them to show up and just hit play when she's in the pit. Of course, I just be like, enjoy the last 10 minutes of this movie. But Scott, why did you pick this movie?

Well, it's, you know, it's 40 years old. And that was it. It had been on my long list. You know, I think that we're going to see, especially in the second half of this year, that I'm going to pick stuff that I'm a little bit less confident in, but stuff that I, what confident in us having like a super like funny episode, but able to discuss things that I probably wouldn't have picked otherwise.

Because I mean, phenomenon is like, it's a fun movie, but it drags ass in the middle. It's a phenomenal movie. Boy, man, damn it. Yeah, it does.

It does. It does a lot of bullshit in the moment. It's a lot of bullshit, and which is like, I kind of like new comes with the territory, but there's a lot of bullshit between some really amazing moments and sounds and just so I watched, I watched the anchor bay DVD that I had. And I'll say that one of my big complaints on that bad boy was no subtitles because yeah, man, sometimes they have a flow in you know, subtitles.

Like just sometimes you want to have those subtitles on so you can only half pay attention, you can like be doing something else and reading what's happening. Because yeah, there's some like just people chatting scene scattered amongst this movie that kind of just, yeah, this movie would be a delightful 45 minutes. Supercut. It's crazy.

I would say an hour and 10 because you're cutting out 25, maybe 30 minutes of material and all of it would be just talking, which is fine. I am a bit confused about a couple of things and we'll get there. But I just have to ask you guys a question. You know, look at me today.

I must look like a dork. And it's not like this decapitated head with like a scorpion and weird bugs on the front of the part. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Crazy. Who farted? Who farted?

And it's actually quite good. That looks awful. Nice. I went with the alchemist focal banger because man, this movie is an absolute focal banger.

It's so beautiful. And even on my anchor, I have the anchor bay DVD to for the viewers at home. I have this steel book collection. What else is in the collection?

So it's do you like Hitchcock phenomena, tenor, the card player and trauma? So like two of his like weird thriller, like two thousands, thrillers. Yeah, about to say two of them. Yeah.

Trauma. But it's it's an interesting little set that I've gotten from Best Buy. I want to go if you if on our TikTok, I'm going to do a special special feature. Yeah.

For this episode. So keep an eye out. You know what's so fun. Cheers.

Yeah. Cheers to you as well. You know, I never want to watch trauma, but I always love thinking about that movie's existence because I only know I originally only found out about it because of there's an entire conversation in May where she goes on this weird ass date with the God with hands, you know, and she's like, you know, do you want to go do bubble blind? She was like, you know, you want to see about their trauma, make plans for a date or another date.

And he was like, I'm going to go see trauma. And she's like, Oh, you've never seen trauma. It's just such a funny. I want to say that that it's like a double entendre.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's also like such an interesting little time capsule of that era because I believe May was 2004. 2003.

Oh, just to basically trauma must have been very new. When it was written, right? Right. Yeah.

What? Yeah. What? That's so true.

And it's not it's not easy to find that stuff. Like that's a video store. Fine. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. So I like that. That's a I also love saying like, Oh, you've never seen trauma like it's forest scum or like, no, I think it's also it's funny in his characterization because he's like, Oh, you're a weird girl, but she's like, I'm a weird girl, but I don't. I'm not like horror movie weird.

I'm like psycho weird, you know, so I'm talking about that movie. So so such a great film. So anyway, let's get into the possible or the almost insurmountable task of giving a little explanation of what this movie's all about. We start with and also I really enjoy the fact that this even though it's got very odd supernatural elements, it still really feels yellow.

Like it feels so Italian and it's in the Swiss Transylvania, as they say, but it is so very, very yellow. So all right. A young girl is brutally murdered in what we find out is referred to as the Swiss Transylvania. And she, you know, she's decapitated and it looks like the unseen killer drags the rest of her body off.

So eight months later, Professor McGregor played by, he's a renowned forensic entomologist. So a bug doctor, he kind of does like body farm type stuff. And it's interesting for 1985 for that to be, I mean, that's probably seen pre cutting edge at the time, right? Yeah.

Well, I want to start with this attack scene real quick because there's some like cool, effective moments in there. And what I'm thinking about is when she's trying to run away and her hand is at her face. That's the best part of the whole thing. The scissors goes just straight into the hand.

I'm like, that is so successfully unnerving. Argento is really good at using scissors, you know, like in horror. And you know what's so funny is that two things about that one, I found out that all of the close ups of the hands killing people are attacking people are the glove hands are darier, gentle stands. And that was something that he was doing a lot apparently.

So that was something he did in a lot of his movies at that time. I don't know if it was every single movie in the 80s, but it was kind of like a trademark he was doing by the time that phenomena was in production. So that's one thing. And the second thing is is, I actually am not going to say about that because it's going to ruin my double feature.

Okay. Take it back. I revoke it. Now y'all.

All right. So eight months later, Dr. I'm sorry, Professor McGregor played by Donald Pleasance. He is wheelchair bound and he has like a chimpanzee assistant named Ina.

And unless this chip man, no, no, we're going to get into a little bit of the back story of this chimp and she was an absolute fucking terror. But we'll get them. So her name was Tango. But anyway, so we'll get there.

Tango on Jane. Fuck. That's great. Anyway, so they have the decapitated head that they have found and it is such a great like close up.

This is like a such a gross out movie. Like I don't think that a lot of giallo's are really gross out and this has so many bugs and like rotting corpse close ups. And it's very fun because I like to put myself in, you know, I like to imagine 40 years ago, you know, seeing this movie when it was new and being like, holy fuck, this is so gnarly. Anyway, I was trying to do the math because they say eight months later, they find the head and I, the way that I had the math come out, it was that this would have been come, this, the events of this film, which I believe take place over the course of let's say a week, maybe 10 days, right?

OK. Yeah, I would say it's pretty short. Yeah. Um, I'm thinking that that week would be early May, which is when this film, when this episode is dropping, which was totally coincidental.

But the only thing that kind of puts a wrench in that assumption is that later on Jennifer Connolly's character calls her famous movie star dad's lawyer and is trying to get ahold of him so that she can get picked up from the school, but that she's at, because she hates it and she feels unsafe. And she says over the phone, she's like, oh, he's gone for a week. You won't be back until after Passover. Now Passover is typically right before Easter, right?

I'm not sure, but yeah, right. So it would be actually closer to the point where we're recording it. So anyway, I just thought that was very interesting in general, because I'd never given a second thought to when this movie would have occurred, but the math is a math in any case. So they have this whole back and forth.

They're explaining how they are doing forensic research using insects who eat dead flesh and then use it to lay eggs and then the maggots come in every 15 days and they bought lots. That's how they do their math. We cut to Jennifer Connolly being driven to this girl's school in Switzerland. And her name is Jennifer Corvino.

So it's very easy when I say Jennifer, even if you've never seen this movie, you know, I'm talking about Jennifer Connolly. Very. I love when I make it easy. Yeah.

You know, Dario, I don't make a lot of things easy, but he did make this easy, which I appreciate. Really interesting side note about that is that Jennifer Connolly was 14 years old when she was shooting this movie. And you don't see that a lot where teenage characters are played by the actual appropriate age. We're just talking about this with Beverly Hills, where one of the characters was it was like, you know, six, seven years older than her character was supposed to be in any case at the time of filming.

I did find it interesting that Jennifer Connolly was the age that she was supposed to be playing that said the on the alternate side of that. It's a very thin line. It's a tightrope when you watch this movie because like I don't feel like Argento was trying to sexualize any of the young girls in this, but the camera lingers on them a little. I mean, maybe maybe it maybe felt different 40 years ago, but maybe I'm just being hyper, you know, well, so I kind of like to point out something I figured out in the special features because you're on to something that I was curious about.

I didn't know if it was going to like work into us talking about it, but it's, it makes me, it's interesting because Luigi Cozy, who was a special effects artist on your has a little feature on the DVD and he's talking about how particularly our end character is not played by a child, but it was small, but like by by a person who is like, and that's obvious to us. But like, we can't, you can't work a child like into the night and like with all this stuff. And it's like, yeah, of course. But then that's why I feel like Dario uses a Jar Jento in so many films, passes, so many of his things because he's just like, well, it's my kid.

I can do whatever. And then he gets real weird about it and it makes me. Yeah. And this, yeah, we're probably never going to discuss like a lot of those movies where Asia was the protagonist because I don't, it gives me a real.

We're going to discuss one on pop, bro. I don't think we're going to bring it here. I'm glad that you have for that. My out there for you to scratch.

All right. So in any case, Jennifer is being driven to the school and her dad is a famous movie star and he's never around. But we find out through many conversations that a couple of things about Jennifer one, she can commune with bugs. That's fucking cool.

And so she's like very chill about this bumblebee that's in the car. And like, I never seen two adults freak out so bad about a single bumblebee in my life. But I mean, I was looking at it. I'm thinking like, did you need to have an happy pen or, you know, she's like, they don't want to hurt me.

And she'd be like, it was cool. I really liked that they probably gave that that be a bunch of like sugar water and put it on Jennifer Connolly's hand for that scene. I mean, you know, I want to give some major props to the bug actors in this movie because they are really pulling their weight. Man, they really are doing an amazing job, which is actually, it can usually be a hundred times their way.

So they're doing a good job of doing this. So my little picture is a man. Thanks for listening to horror movie. All right.

Let me speedrun through a lot of this. So she is also a vegetarian and she is a sleepwalker and she is not well received with any of the girls at her school. No, but she does. The friend Professor McGregor and Ina because he immediately accepts that she can communicate telepathically with insects.

Cool. She then begins to have kind of these sleepwalking premonitions slash seeing through the eyes of the killer, the mass killer who murders her, murders another girl murders her roommate. The the knife on on a pike kind of thing is a very cool. Look for a weapon.

Yeah. Well, this is this scene that we're talking about right here where she sees that happen also has a very interesting needle drop. Dude, Iron Maiden. Hell yeah.

Dario Argento gets a pass on a lot of his poor less less well thought out decisions because he loved heavy metal in his eighties, like demons, this opera. You know, he and also the theme for this is so good. I'm absolutely starting the side B of guitar printer, which is the Argento part with the phenomena theme because it is so good. Oh, it's called you.

So you can't go wrong. No, so good. All right. So we continue to have this, this kind of exposition that Jennifer is just not going to make it at this school because of her sleepwalking.

She the headmistress, Frau Buckner has her go under some, you know, like they put in some apparatus, which is that's a crazy thing for a. Why they have mastered to be like, what? And the funny thing is that Jennifer is like, oh, you're not going to find anything different. I've gone through all of these tests before.

I'm like, is this, was this really like, do they have ESP tests all the time in 1985? Yeah, it was like, what kind of records did you send? Did your other school nurse send a sporting school? Anything wild, absolutely wild.

But because of having that test done, the and the sleepwalking, Frau Buckner's like, I got to get rid of her. All right. Before that, she has another girl who's basically going to spy on Jennifer. And then they all are like making fun of her as the bug girl.

And then she's like, she forgives them and she gives them a wonderful gift. A swarm of flies. Everything you might want. Yeah, I mean, it's, I love you.

I love that scene. Yeah, it's, it's, I really, I think the thing I love so much about this movie, and I don't, I don't want to say I love this movie. I just love things about it. So like, speak to me clear.

But the things that I love about it are just the things that happen that you can't find anywhere else. You know, and so like, this girl can control flies, you know, awesome. She does. It could easily just be something like this.

Yeah. Yeah. But it ends up being, it's just something. But there's not another beside Joe's apartment, which I hope I didn't take anybody.

That's like much of a trolling sort of bugs. It's kind of unheard of. It doesn't do it anymore. People don't do that.

No, I mean, I would love to see more movies where there, somebody has the mutant power to control bugs. In any case, she, so the, she goes back to, oh, this is right before Professor McGregor gets murdered by the unseen assailant and Ena has to watch helplessly. But right before that, Jennifer wakes up from her like little nippy nap after controlling all those flies, realize that she's going to get card off to a mental asylum, runs away from school, goes to see Professor McGregor. He gives her one of the sarcophagus flies from the glove that she found in one of her previous sleepwalking exturgions, and it has now grown into a full-fledged fly.

So this must have taken the place of the course of two weeks, right? So this fly, now they're pals and it's, she communicates with it and says, take me to where you come from. And it takes her to this abandoned cottage and then she gets scared away by a groundskeeper, but that is where all of the dead girl bodies are being held by the killer. From Buckner takes Jennifer to her house.

She tries to sedate her, but it makes Jennifer sick. And so she's like, you know what, I'm just going to do the old-fashioned way. She's knocks her over the head. There's, I miss the part where this whole inspector Geiger back story, where he's like also, he's like the Swiss policeman who's detected whatever who's trying to also crack this case of this unknown killer of girls at this school.

He comes in to, he asks about this mental hospital that Fout Buckner used to work at. And she admits, yes, she worked there. And the story unfolds that she was essayed by an inmate or two there. And that she had a baby from that.

And he, his name's Patau Patua. He lives, he's got a malformed face and he lives in the basement of the house, which is also where all of the bodies are in a pool of sludge and maggots. Of course, if there's a pool of sludge and maggots, Darriar Argento isn't going to let that go to waste. So he drops Jennifer right into it.

We get the grossest scene. This is the beginning of the crazy, the craziest 10 minutes to end a movie. See now what's interesting is, I know I own the DVD, so I obviously have watched it once before, but I think I've watched Creepers Way more, which is edited down to 83 minutes. Oh, it's cut down to 83 minutes and it's rearranging everything.

Ending is still definitively the same, though, because this was like, this is the most immediately, like, I remember this moment shot. You know, I mean, like it sticks with you. It's fucked up. It's gross.

It's disgusting. But boy, is it lodged? It's taking your brain because of it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't even imagine so gooey. And we've just been so close up with insects all movie.

And now this person gets completely dropped in and just like, oh, yeah. Yeah, it's very, but she gets out. She does get out and then we get some more kills. Might be worse.

If you wonder, just die by swallowing that insect. I love you. If I go into a vat of insects, I kill myself. Listen, you're not allowed to drown out.

Insect is top three more ways to go. I've just decided. We're sure. But yes, she escapes and my God, the 10 minutes that ensue at this point, because we get a child in the corner.

Yeah. We get the reveal of this face. That's like, I mean, I'll steal someone's potential double feature, but given off some real funhouse vibes with this face. You're only giving up your own, your own feature for that, by the way.

Don't worry. I know that my double feature is secure. But yeah. I hope I stitch the stitched clothes, stits close eyes like crazy man.

That's just being chased by this child finds a motorboat. Child charges her with a spear. Yeah. Bad ass.

It's so it's, it is a little sometimes a long walk, but it is. Really it is so it is so amazing. This this last 10, 10 minutes, 10 minutes, 10 minutes, 10 minutes. How?

Finatively 10 minutes. That wouldn't keep saying 10 minutes if you had. No, because I could not believe it was like one of those things where I can be like, how much longer? And I'm like, there's still five minutes?

It's like so much happens so fast that it feels like 30 minutes, but it's genuinely 10. Yeah. So he tries to spear Jennifer. So Pat Tao tries to spear Jennifer.

Mrs hits the boat's gas tank that she's trying to escape on. She then uses her fly powers. And I just had a realization, guys. Can we call it pest control?

I think we have a new shirt. It's just the creepers cover that says, that's pest control. Oh, yeah. But she fights him with her bugs.

And then the bugs like ripping his skin off as far as you can tell. Do you use like all bloody under there? Yeah. So did you hear?

Did you read this thing? So the guy who played the sun, his name was David Marota, I believe, is how you say it? He said that his death scene involved being smeared with glucose before being having 40 million insects released on him. And I mean, you know, people talk about doing all these crazy things in horror movies and the directors kind of being like, oh, you'll be fine.

That might be the craziest part of this movie. Yeah. That's great. You know, Tony Todd years later would have enough puts put to ask for money for this.

I wonder if this dude even knew that that was going to happen. You know, I don't mean like how do you even know? Also, how do you even know? What is your insect wrangler like?

Like what is that? Like to the body fart? They got some copper. They got some copper.

And then they brought him and they're like, and this looks like 40k. This is kind of fucked up. I'm like, I'm looking around right now. I think that's the only is the character named Pato, which I think is how we're talking about.

It's a real Pato syndrome. It's because of the syndrome that he's named after what the birth defect is. It's a chromosomal abnormality. That's fucking wild.

Well, I think that our gentle is rude. Our gentle probably was like, you know what, I've put enough mental energy into these characters. We could just name this one after what it really is, you know? Yeah.

It feels really able. It does. Very much so. It was like, I have an Argento.

I'm not surprised by any of that. We also then so we get like kind of this. I think that our gentle was like, there's not enough murder in this. The lawyer that Jennifer was talking to on the phone just randomly shows up and he gets decapitated by Bruckner.

It's so out of note. It's also one of those. We're going to go back to Matt Kelly scene analysis. When we talked about alligator, I was breaking down how the logistics of where the alligator's head is making no sense.

I love that there is a choice to have this wide shot where you can clearly see nobody anywhere near the staircase that he's running down, which in plot just delights me on how fast she must have come running out of foot. It's not like it's like a heavily wooded area down that staircase. It's like clear. It's so good.

That is the moment I've always remembered about this movie is that in the last two minutes you think it's over and then there's just a surprise decapitation. And then you get the straight razor wielding chimpanzee killer. So I mean, it really is kind of a two for right in that last second there. Now the funniest thing about this and I wanted to bring up Tanga, not Tanga.

Her name was Tanga at the champ. She is crazy. She was incredibly difficult to direct. One, because Argento wanted to avoid coming off as comical, because it's an acting chimpanzee.

So he really didn't want to show her butt on screen. So he tried very hard to either have her shot from the front or have her anything with a table below her waist so that she didn't see her butt. I can only think of two times you see her butt and one of them is when she's going to go get the medicine and the other one when she's out the window, which is so funny to me. Additionally, during the film's climax, the hand wielding the straight razor hitting Frabrockner was Tanga's own.

She was the one holding this dull straight razor and she scarred that actor. Your name was Darya Nicolodi, I believe. Oh yeah, Darya Nicolodi. And that scene, which was shot earlier on in the movie for whatever we earlier on in the filming, Tanga brutally attacked Jennifer Connolly bit off part of one of her fucking fingers and they had to retrieve it from Tanga.

And then they had to run Jennifer Connolly and her severed piece of finger to a hospital. I have it fucking reattached. So to think that she even ever acted again. The fucking model.

Did she act again? She the next movie? I mean, she did was opera. She went back.

Wait, Jennifer Connolly was an opera? No, no, no. Oh, sorry. I'm talking about the woman who got attacked by the straight razor.

Yeah. She did it. Yeah. She did it.

The fact that she even became Jennifer Connolly like to act and became Jennifer Connolly after that is crazy. I think the crazier thing and I'd love to find this clip is that the way we know the story is because she told Conan about it in 2008. It took all this time. Oh, that's great.

It was years and years. Like, you know, 20 plus years, 23 years after this movie came out that Jennifer Connolly was on Conan and told the story. And it's, and I just don't know how a 14 year old could, I mean, maybe you're more resilient at 14 years old, but I mean, if maybe, and then she had to work with the show. It's like breaking your arm.

More after because that happened early on in the filming and Tanga was incredibly aggressive to Jennifer Connolly the rest of the shoot. Listen, I, when I was six years old, my neighbor had a Rottweiler and I held the ball playing, you know, I got, they were like, play, play. Okay. And this was a good, you know, moment, but I held the tennis ball a little too long and the dog got excited and bit my finger and that has instilled in me a complete fear, a very strong fear of dog.

I'm much better now, but it instilled in me a year's long fear of medium to large dogs. The fact that Jennifer Connolly probably had to go on set maybe a few days later and act with his monkey again. This chimp is why. I feel like we may have married a little bit of information about the actress who's attacked by the monkey.

And Daria Nickood. Oh, whatever. Yeah. She's, I think she still, well, she was doing conventions.

Maybe it's still doing conventions. Well, no, because she died in 2020. So I don't think she's still doing conventions. Nope.

But she was, I like taking her ashes to conventions because I wouldn't put it past some people. That's a very Italian thing. Maybe she was married to Dario Argento. So is Dario and Dario?

Yeah. Dario and Dario. They divorced after this movie, but she still did opera for him and that she claims that she wrote Suspiria and Inferno. Oh, shit.

And she also has a screenplay writing credit for Pan Genie Horror that we covered. She was the writer of that. Pan Genie Horror so far. That's amazing.

I want to, I had a revisit that. Do you think that Pagan Genie Horror is, is Phantom of the Opera enough? Because it feels kind of like Phantom of the Opera. I feel like, I feel like, and this is down the line, but there's probably going to be some offshoots or just like about, because we talked about this on Dark Man too.

Like I don't think Dark Man is enough for an episode to talk about it, but this, this, the references that are included, I think Pagan Genie would have a little bit of that. Fair enough. Maybe just if I want to watch it. Any excuse.

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I'm going to go with Malignant because the amount of scissor kills in this and sharp objects and the close-ups are very obviously what Malignant was kind of aping. Oh! I can't believe this. Oh!

Alright, so this movie towards the end ends with a woman in a pile of mud surrounded by corpses. So I'm not even going to leave where this DVD is on my shelving unit. I'm just going to go a couple movies down the line and grab Poltergeist to pop in. That makes sense, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah. I had that written down too. I did have Saturday Night Fever just for the VGs, but what I am going to do is, and I already said Joe's apartment, but there's an artist, his name is Jimmy Gonzalez, the filmmaker, but he's also a DJ, a VJ who has remixed. Well, I know him because he did a video in Aztees, soundtrack and film clip compilation, like mix, which I love, which I actually watched after phenomena because I was like, this is the vibe I want, but he did one called Last Night at DJ took my life, which is a compilation of Giallo films and soundtracks mixed together.

And it's, you know how we talked about putting on trailers or putting on clip shows or something like gatherings and just having something on in the background? Like this is sort of like the party mix of Giallo. And phenomena to me is like, a lot of times, the most music video of Argento's stuff, like where you could just like kind of throw it on and watch it, but maybe the Creeper's version would be the way to do it, a little less lag, but you know, just that. So space tunes is the artist's name and it's one word with a Z and it's just that compilation is so great.

So I would watch that again just to get just to get some more without having to sit through another full maybe Argento movie. Love that. And if you are loving everything that we're doing, there's so many places that you can go and support, you can get a couple of t-shirts from us on our Dash Early website that is hmnpodcast.dashaly.com. Yet these reduce, reuse, reanimate shirts that Scott and I are both wearing did not plan on that.

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Alright, so I just have a quick little thing. I don't know because there's not much to say about it, but I finally watched Creature Commandos on Max, which is a DC cartoon, DC's Gunverse cartoon. And I think it was only eight or nine episodes, but it was a lot of fun. It was that kind of that animation style that they do for the, it's not quite as anime as Castlevania, but it also is very similar to that.

There's a lot of gore and some fun voice acting in it. I enjoyed it. I kind of was scratching my head about the little wrap around at the, in the very end of the last episode, but it's a good time. I'm hoping that we get to see some of the Creature Commandos in live action, Gunverse, DC stuff, because like weasel from Gun's Suicide Squad has re-prized its role in here.

Also still, voice by Sean Gunn, but Sean Gunn also voices another character called GI Robot and GI Robot hates Nazis, which is awesome. We also have Alan Tudike, who's playing Dr. Phosphorus. We have David Harber, who's playing Frankenstein.

Like Rillow, Place Frank, Rick Flag, Senior. They're good. It's a nice little cast of voice actors. Just some silly fun.

I think the episodes are 24 minutes long, so I burned through it over the course of a couple of nights. Love it. I'm going to bounce off of that with another superhero TV show, because by the time this comes out, it'll be done. But Daredevil born again.

I remember when we were first discussing that this was going to be directed by Morehead and Benson. It was like, oh, that's really cool. And then there was this element of they announced it was going to be darker than the original series. And I think a lot of people who loved the first three seasons of Daredevil were kind of like how much darker can it possibly get.

We watched Kingpin smash a dude's face in a car door in the first season. Well they found out away and that way is introducing the character of Muse, who is a street artist who uses victims' blood in all of his paintings by draining them entirely. And there's literally a scene straight out of Texas Chainsaw where someone is strapped down, having their blood drained out of them while they look at a bunch of drained corpses dangling from hooks in the subways of New York City. So they found a way to make it gnarly.

Now you really sold me on it because I was like on the fence. Oh no, it's good. It's definitely better than season two of Daredevil. Not so far.

I mean, we've got two episodes off to go at the time we're recording this. So far I don't think it's better than seasons one or three. But those are like immaculate episodes. There are seasons of television to begin with.

But yeah, it was fun. And you know what it does that I love, Scott? Because it's the Disney Plus version of things. Forty minute episodes instead of hour long episodes.

Right on. Can't complain about that. But yeah, it's as good as I was hoping it would be. But yeah, I had to give a shout out to the Muse character because that was fucking wild.

I had forgotten that I had heard that. I think that the last I heard was that they were contemplating putting that character in, but knowing that they did it. It's a new character. Yeah, I just introduced them like the last 10 years.

Yeah, I didn't know anything about them until I was like, yeah, I was like, all right, fucking, I'm into this. I'm into this fucked up version of Daredevil. So Kyle, you can take us home. I don't think I talked about this flick, but it deserves to be talked about a bit.

So we're going to be talking about the movie called Efis. And if you follow me on social media, you might have seen me post about it. But Efis is a movie about baseball and it's about, but it's also a lot more than that. It's in the came out this year and it's about a group of mostly older guys, mostly past the prime, mostly just recreationally playing baseball on the last day that a field is going to exist before it's demolished, before it's going to be built upon.

And this is in October. And it's just a really lovely piece about there's not a big narrative arc. It's just a lot of characters on different teams that have their own like shit going on, but they're here to kind of pay their respects. But it's also like this thing about masculine relationships and being present for a thing that's going to come to an end, but not being attentive to the emotions of it.

But then also like in the guys of baseball, which is at this point in the movie is almost 100 year old sport, it's a really lovely, somebody described it as like an art film about baseball. Somebody actually said finally an art film or a baseball art film and nobody said finally, but it is a really, really lovely piece. I would have been following it because John R. Smith Jr., who is the lead in my short film, The Woodman, was part of it.

And when this film went out on the festival circuit, he was like the promo image and like I was just watching it and being able to re-show him about his involvement. Yeah, yeah, it's actually going to come out. If it's not already on VOD at the time of this recording, it's going to be in the next month or two, but it should be out soon. Music box films put it out and it's really, really worth it.

So not only that, John was my lead in, but two of our actors that were also in, who were in my more recent short that should be coming out soon, are also in it. One of our production assistants was on board. So it's just this New England film community had sort of involved themselves in this film and then in turning my film. And it's one of those things where you just hope that your friends thing that they're involved in is good.

And not only is this good, it's a really fucking incredible film. It's called Efis. And I highly recommend people check it out. You don't have to be a sports movie, but you don't have to be a sports fan.

It's not about a sports team trying to overcome. It's not the mighty ducks. It's not, you know, it's not, it's not field of dreams. It's not any of that stuff really.

It's kind of its own thing. But I mean, we're fun fact about Mac Kelly hate watching most sports. Love watching a good sports movie. Just always, always felt like I remember, I think my parents, when I lived in California, my parents came out to visit me and we went and saw Moneyball.

And I'm like, I could not care. I maybe watch the, I actively maybe watch one baseball game a year. That's not like me being at a party with nothing to do with baseballs on the television. Like I'll watch this shit out of Moneyball.

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