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EPISODE · Apr 28, 2025 · 1H 17M

Phil Heath - A Different Conversation

from The Excellence Cartel · host Jeff Black / Jason Theobald

In this episode, we sit down with 7-time Mr. Olympia Phil Heath, joined by our good friend Matt Christman, for a conversation that goes far deeper than sets, reps, or supplementation. This isn’t your typical bodybuilding interview. No drug talk. Barely any training or nutrition. Just real, unfiltered insight from a man who’s lived at the top and learned through the process of winning—and losing. We wanted a different kind of conversation with Phil. One built on the kind of perspective you only earn through time, setbacks, and self-awareness. If you’re looking for a raw, thoughtful, and unexpected look into the mind of a champion—this one’s for you.

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