Phil Martin - The Zen Path Through & RagTop Jim & Renee Oliphant

We'll be joined from Minnesota by social worker, writer, meditation teacher, and author of The Zen Path Through Depression, Phil Martin.  Phil joins us to discuss The Zen Path Through this difficult time.   We will also be talking with close friends and  singers Renee and Jim Oliphant from RagTop and see -what they have been doing during this down time in music. Dr. Mara with more on living with passion as a way to bring light into the world.