EPISODE · Jun 5, 2023 · 38 MIN
Physician Burnout, Career Decisions, and Lessons from the NICU with Dr. Susan Landers
from My Favorite Mistake: Learning Without Blame in Business and Leadership · host Mark Graban
Episode page with video, transcript, and more My guest for Episode #213 of the My Favorite Mistake podcast is Susan Landers, M.D., a retired neonatologist, author, & speaker. She practiced full-time in the NICU for over thirty years and wrote a book about her experience: So Many Babies: My Life Balancing a Busy Medical Career and Motherhood. Susan is an expert in physician burnout, breastfeeding medicine, & donor human milk banking. During her career, she published over thirty peer-reviewed papers. In this episode, Susan shares her favorite mistake story about a career decision that she thought was a mistake for years… but things turned out fine. But how did she get disillusioned with working in healthcare and how did that lead to burnout? How can we recognize burnout in ourselves (and others) and how can we help? How can we take better care of ourselves? Mark's new book, The Mistakes That Make Us: Cultivating a Culture of Learning and Innovation Questions and Topics: What was it like to experience burnout? When and how did this happen to you? The symptoms of burnout? Tired vs. burned out?? Is it generally true that others notice it before you? Speaking up if you see this in a loved one: alienating themselves Can you talk about how you recovered from burnout? How prevalent is burnout in healthcare? How much worse is it due to Covid? Systems thinking — how often do leaders make the mistake of blaming people for getting burned out? Read about the signs of physician burnout Get a checklist for signs of burnout in working mothers --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/favorite-mistake/support
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Dr. Susan Landers, a retired neonatologist with over thirty years in the NICU, reflects on a career decision she once believed was a mistake—leaving academic medicine—and why it ultimately led to greater professional fulfillment. She shares candid insights into the pressures of medical careers, balancing motherhood, leadership roles, and the emotional toll of complex patient care. The conversation also dives deeply into physician burnout: how it develops, why loved ones often recognize it first, and what recovery truly requires. Drawing on personal experience and research, Dr. Landers offers practical guidance for healthcare professionals, leaders, and families seeking to better understand burnout and create healthier, more supportive systems of care.
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