Pierre van Heerden: How it costs twice as much to set up a supermarket in NZ than Australia

Grocery Commissioner Pierre van Heerden wants a third supermarket competitor to set up shop in New Zealand in order to tackle the country’s supermarket duopoly, but reducing the barriers to entry won’t happen overnight.“What we've been told by these players is when they come and they want to open up a large store in New Zealand, the cost to get a spade in the ground is double that of Australia,” he says in a new episode of the Of Interest podcast. “Now that is significant. And when they look at 'do we open up a store in Wagga Wagga or Tamworth or wherever in Australia' versus coming to open up in Auckland where there is massive demand or any of the other centres, really, the cost is double that of Australia. And the timeframe often is more than double as well. So when they do their business cases, they look at that and say, 'well, we're going to be better off by going elsewhere rather than here.' Now the government is saying that they're going to change things to make New Zealand more competitive for international players. And that's really what we're looking at.”The Commerce Commission released its first annual grocery report on Wednesday which revealed ComCom’s efforts to boost grocery competition over the past year hasn’t had much impact. The report found between 2019 and 2023, price-cost margins on non-fresh products across the New World, Pak’nSave, and Woolworths brands increased by 3.1 percentage points on average, while fresh food margins rose a lesser 0.4% on average.The Commission defines price-cost margins as a measure of the difference between the price a firm receives for the sale of an item and the direct supply costs incurred.Broken down, the price-cost margins for non-fresh products in that period rose the most at Foodstuffs North Island’s New World stores which reported a 3.9 percentage point increase in that period.In second and third, Woolworths NZ’s Countdown stores, now renamed back to Woolworths, reported a 3.6 percentage point increase, and Foodstuffs South Island reported a 2.9% percentage point increase during 2019 and 2023.The consumer watchdog said the report provided “clear evidence for stronger action” in NZ’s $25 billion grocery sector.Speaking on the Of Interest podcast, van Heerden says the Commission wants to make sure the barriers to entry are reduced enough to make NZ’s supermarket sector more competitive. Barriers to entry for potential new supermarket hopefuls also include things outside the Commission's control like planning regulations including zoning requirements within the local council’s District Plan, and the resource consent process in some cases. The Overseas Investment Act 2005 can also create additional costs, delays and uncertainty in relation to site acquisition by overseas entities looking to enter or expand in the New Zealand grocery industry, van Heerden says.Asked if a giant entity would be needed to enter NZ’s supermarket sector – which is currently controlled by Woolworths NZ and Foodstuffs – as a third entrant or if a smaller grocery player could work as well, van Heerden says it can be a combination.“We would like to see someone who can come in and has the scale to do it nationally, because that's the way they're going to get the best prices from suppliers. You know, they can get good trade spend or discounts in their stores as well. Because when I look at Auckland as an example, in Auckland, the concentration or the market share of the major supermarkets has come down by 4% from 74 to, I think it's 70%. What has caused that – Costco coming into the market. A lot of the Asian supermarkets are growing and we've just seen Foodies open and they sold out from what I've seen, you know, four weeks' stock in three days,” he says.“So consumers are anxious and they want to get better deals and they will support these players. But I want to see that same level of competition out in the smaller areas. And if a big player comes in and as in Australia, a hard discounter where they really give very good prices, I think that will shake up the industry and it will ensure that the big players are more competitive.”Van Heerden says the supermarkets have “said all the right things” when contributing to the Commission’s work on the grocery sector“If you look at the comments that both the major supermarkets have brought out since the report came out, they all say they work, they work with us, they support the objectives. But I want those words to change into actions. I want to actually see it happening. I look at, for instance, the refund policies and the pricing issues. We've raised that now with them since I started. And quite honestly, the response has been, 'yes, we're getting it done,' but the actual actions have been slow. So I'd like to see them ramping up those actions and letting their actions be the same as what they're telling us, that they're happy to work with us to get things done,” he says.The Commerce Commission's grocery report can be found here.*You can find all episodes of the Of Interest podcast here.  Audio soundtrack opening is licensed from Shutterstock, Track 1219389 Monetization ID TFGEPGEI0LHEIJAI