EPISODE · Mar 10, 2026 · 44 MIN
PIPs Aren't the End of the World
from Leading Ain't Easy · host Ryan Calkins and Erny Epley
A Performance Improvement Plan (PIP) can feel like a career death sentence.For a lot of people, getting put on a PIP feels deeply personal. It can hit your confidence, make you question your future, and leave you wondering whether you are already halfway out the door.In this episode, Ryan and Erny talk about PIPs from both sides.Ryan shares what it was like to be put on a PIP himself, including how hard it hit when it felt personal instead of productive. Erny talks about how leaders should approach performance issues before they ever get to that point, and why no employee should be blindsided by critical feedback at evaluation time.They also get into:when a PIP is being used the right waywhen it starts to feel weaponizedwhy accountability mattershow leaders can communicate clearly and empatheticallyand why a PIP does not automatically mean your career is overThis episode is for leaders who want to handle performance issues better, and for employees who need the reminder that one hard moment does not define the rest of their career.A PIP may be a setback, but it does not have to be the end.Leading Ain't Easy was created by Ryan Calkins and Erny Epley, and is hosted by Ryan and John Moore.Ryan is the founder of Reframe & Rise, where he works with veterans who transitioned successfully but still feel something's off; helping them find alignment, not just a better job title.John is a certified life and career coach with 20+ years of experience helping people navigate transitions, find purpose, and lead with intention — drawing on backgrounds in corporate leadership, counseling, and entrepreneurship.Erny runs Bus Pro Network, supporting school transportation leaders across California with training and development, and joins the show as an occasional guest.Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen. Follow us on LinkedIn and Instagram for clips, prompts, and behind-the-scenes updates. If this episode resonated, please leave a review as it helps more leaders find us.
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A Performance Improvement Plan (PIP) can feel like a career death sentence. For a lot of people, getting put on a PIP feels deeply personal. It can hit your confidence, make you question your future, and leave you wondering whether you are already halfway out the door. In this episode, Ryan and Erny talk about PIPs from both sides. Ryan shares what it was like to be put on a PIP himself, including how hard it hit when it felt personal instead of productive. Erny talks about how leaders should...
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