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EPISODE · Jul 7, 2026 · 1H 23M

PJ Turned CIA Spy Breaks Silence on Human Trafficking in America | Ep. 299 | Pt. 1

from Mike Drop · host Mike Ritland

Former U.S. Air Force Pararescueman and CIA officer Nic McKinley — a Harvard grad dubbed "the real Jack Ryan" for his operational background across spec ops and intelligence work — breaks down how his 11 years as a PJ and later role as country chief of a special CIA unit exposed him to the realities of child trafficking and illicit markets, work that eventually became the foundation for DeliverFund, the nonprofit he now runs that arms law enforcement with technology, actionable intelligence, training, and data-driven tools to fight human trafficking. We dig into how smartphones and gaming platforms turned into a direct pipeline connecting predators to kids, why the policy fixes are obvious but the people with the power to enact them won't touch it, and what it actually takes to hunt a human trafficker for a living. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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