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What? Yeah, I told me can't be silent with episodes. Are we on the right show? Is this right studio?
I hope so And we also have the end with us today I don't know if you listen to the last episode. You know it actually went really smooth like we didn't get off topic at all It was actually it was smooth as buttermilk. Maybe the filters are bad thing you're fired I think you know I think it's what it is is our defiance like you you know want to be the filter so bad that we just try to you know Don't stop it. Yeah, pretty much.
Let's see if we can get the anriles. I think we're doing it just to piss you off Okay, you know you're clipping today Dan. I don't know what that I am because I'm doing the energy water. I guess that or it's got the venom in water That or last time we were here in Tim Pied on your microphone.
I did something microphone. Whoa. Hey, you said we're gonna tell That's Tim to microphone now I'm the filter. Oh, yeah, I was gonna say lurch isn't here today.
He is up to his eyebrows and homework He said it was CS homework which I don't see us stood for chicken shit. He didn't like that He's been testing. No, he was just kidding. But yeah, he said a lot of tests But not lately and so lurch does not hear this episode also brandy aka peaches is not here this episode So it's just gonna be myself Tim D'ann and not so silent dawn today.
It's gonna be boring Today's episode we have a bunch of investigations talk to or talk about What's interesting this time of year for us is when things start to get busy for us about I would say April about April things die right down We just don't get a ton of investigations April and they just seem to get fewer and fewer as the summer rolls on We still usually do a couple investigations every month But usually through the summer stuff that we've set up or kind of public things But people call us and say I have problems boils down to almost nothing through the summer I think part of that is because people are outside and don't think about it once You know how we can start rolling around they start thinking about a little bit more and they're indoors a little bit more And seeing that's kind of my thought on this weather has a lot to play in that too I think there's a lot of factors with regards to I think it's a combination of a little bit of everything But I think the biggest thing is the days are longer the sun's out more so people are outside. They're playing sports They're going to like Powell. They're going up into the mountains camping See that would be an ideal investigation for me like I would love to be up in the mountains during a thunderstorm and just Investigating the woods. I think that would be fun I would be curious on how much stuff is in the woods though because I think I'd be curious to know how many spirits inhabit woods versus I mean if you kill someone to bury the body it's usually on the woods, right?
Yeah, but I mean you'd have to go somewhere where there's bodies bear I mean I suppose you could really find spirits anywhere We've talked about that before but I mean if you just went to some random campsite I'd be curious to know how I Mean you could have like you know say the like the Provo river for example I know there's campsites around there and you could have had something like maybe drowned in the river I think if you went to kind of a really busy area I think there could be pretty pretty high likelihood somewhere where there's like a established campsite where the spirits are gonna gravitate to where they Were comfortable or happy so yeah, but if you're an established campsite But I mean if you went hiking off into the two leads of the high you went as I think you'd well You're not gonna find a Provo Canyon despite videos that have been released recently as Bigfoot because he doesn't exist Yeah, I actually posted a video that saw a bit of a cornfield bigfoot that you know I've never seen a Bigfoot that was been so short and skinny before in my life that was not very big at all Well and bounce back that video. I know we've kind of already got a topic. We don't have a topic I noticed in that particular video that their camera and I didn't listen to you guys can correct me I just glanced at it But they're they start their phone up. They're kind of videotaping the floor of their car It was a little girl in the backseat using her iPad But to me it just seemed really odd that within moments of getting that camera up and going Yeah, there's something walking through the the weeds out on the side of the street and you hit the little girl go as soon as it happens What was that?
It was like four. Okay, I did listen to the audio I thought yeah, maybe that part was legit. I think I think it was a Scripted in my opinion you do think it was gripping. I think so that's why I was getting asked What's just how quick between the time the camera gets up to out the window?
It seemed? Yeah, it's really convenient that I mean, it's like almost instantly after the girl starts the video that hey There's something there but back to a busy season versus low season It seems like everybody's out and about and I think when fall starts to around in schools in and people are spending more time at home The days were getting shorter I think people are home and are noticing things that are going on in their homes and like you mentioned Tim I think weather plays a factor. I think it plays a huge factor I've been on investigation the summertime like when it's you know, you've got a thunderstorm going on and the activity level is just crazy awesome Well, I was gonna say in the winter I mean you get more static electricity indoors because it's drier as it gets colder and a lot of the equipment we use is electro You know like emf meters and whatnot and so I wonder if that extra Natural ambient emf helps spirits manifest so to speak well, I remember when you're in Colorado at this Danny Hotel They said they seem to have more activity as the weather gets colder like in the winter time It seems like they get more and like the stuff just kind of comes down out of the mountains and well Actually pick up their little tell me if you remember and I could be remembering this wrong So Randy can correct me but I vaguely remember her saying that and I like that better when it was cold You know, I actually have a Vietnamese guy that I work with and he talks to me about this stuff sometimes and he was actually saying in his culture What they believe is it's you're not gonna you might not notice it more actively might pick up a little bit more in the Winter time because a lot of spirits come across especially no female spirits They are like kind of cold to touch like when they tell you they're cold now in the winter time if you're already cold This spirits can get closer to you and you're not gonna pick up on it as much because you're already kind of at the temperature They normally are which they kind of make some feel more comfortable being around people and that might be a reason I like I could be a little bit that could be either way we went from a summer of Investigations that were few and far between or things that we'd set up to what I would turn the busy season We did what three investigations last week four investigations Yes, four and I was gonna say we've already got two on the calendar coming up And I have had two of my there's a guy in my ward and the lady that does my lashes they've both contacted me and said We've got people that are interested in giving the investigation. I got a guy I work with that is also Talking to me about possibly coming out to his house I say we've got two scheduled and I know we probably got eight that are they've expressed interest And we just have to pin him down on a dare time I make that sound like we're like and myself I'm down to get him on my down ladder or my my down line We should just be like the old like 1950s You know door to door salesman get a suitcase with a pamphlet or something and just knock on the door and be like y'all got demons Well take care of demons gonna exercise the demons we can sell snake water well It's a snake we'll be in well better none of it works We'll sell rocks and holly water and sage you need this to get rid of the demons that are guaranteed to be in your home right now So that is gonna be our topic tonight We're gonna talk about three or actually for the investigations.
We've done since our last podcast and then we are also gonna talk about And it's interesting cuz I saw it well we'll get there. Let's talk about our investigations first So Dan why don't you start what which investigations you want to talk about? Let's talk about the fire house. Okay, that's that's the only information we can give you is the fire This is the one that referred to as super secret.
It's what our super secret at a podcast the reason why it's because It is an operating fire station. I mean there were actually firemen there while we were investigating Right. It was like kind of fun. Yeah, they investigated with us at some point The head guy had to send some of them off to check out a fire and they came back and I mean it's it was and they shared their experiences Which was interesting to right?
So one of my music students works there, which is kind of how we got in and He told me afterwards an experience that he had and I'm like dude that would have been nice to know beforehand But his experience he is a light sleeper and in this firehouse the bedrooms are upstairs But there are two that are downstairs and he's kind of higher up in the rankings So he I say the downstairs bedrooms just why I saw look like the you've been here for a while You kind of get a semi-private bedroom versus the dormitory dormitory style, but he will sleep downstairs I guess the chief that's there Cool, so it's just interesting that's coming about seeing his personal residence right he I guess he will not sleep downstairs He refuses to sleep down there those bedrooms were kind of creepy But my students like I don't care I'll just call my students out and they want to name out over here. Yeah, probably good So my student goes down there and he says you might sleep down there and he said one night It was you know two three in the morning and there's a TV right outside the bedroom door And he said the TV came on It was static and it was loud and he got up and went to you know See who was watching TV and there's nobody there anyone upstairs to see you know Who was up room around early in the morning? I says everyone was just out like a light so And it was interesting because when we got there and Each each investigation we do is completely totally different I wouldn't say any investigation is ever the same of any location we do we've had investigations and we've gotten better at Our submission form on the Wisps.org webpage. I actually went through and created a form The people have to fill out to request investigation one of the things is to basically limit the number of people there We didn't investigation how long goes that to me where there weren't you all the one in plain city?
Yeah, where it was it was a fun investigation But they invited like all their friends and neighbors I mean it was a there's probably like it was damn near barn raising it was like 10 to 15 There's four of us. Yeah, and so it was a little bit I mean it was again we accomplished quite a bit there But it was like listening back to all we had brandy there if it was just like you and me and without a medium like we Probably would have done anything right and the reason why is just it was there's so many different conversations going on that the audio was atrocious I mean a lot of our listeners go on the public hunts And imagine one of those but just kind of free form with nobody to shush anybody and Well in such a small area too because like when you're investing in someone's house They're not huge like Benson Gris Mill or off-Broadway theater like right you're talking about a house that has like five or six rooms tops And they're all like right next to each other so right when you got 15 people it gets loud and everybody's talking about terrible things like sports and Hey, ouch I just slapped your hand. I know you didn't make you feel like the case thing. I've ever seen you do Anyway as a We go in these different investigations I mean sometimes you get you know two or three people sometimes it's just one person there with you sometimes there's 15 people And so it becomes a little bit more difficult to investigate based on the number of people there on top of the investigators And this one was a little bit different because again We did have a full firehouse, but it was fun because the firemen did come and participate and there were only four of them Maybe five six of them but at the same time like they kind of respected what we were doing and you know If they had a question they would jump in and ask the question, but they weren't like carrying on like full-on conversations outside of what we're doing They like they actually were very very respectful of what we were doing You know they weren't poo-pooing it or yeah after Chuckle because at the end of the night when I spoke my stuff I went to firemen's like so how much does it cost to get into this kind of thing?
You know an antics point that yes I got this great big pelican case full of you know 20 pieces of gear and really there's only you want to be an investigator I'll give you a price right now $50 by an audio recorder You're good to go I was gonna say if you want to just get started the pieces equipment I know we've talked about this before but as well I told the farmer they said an audio recorder twist on flashlight K2 meter and your phone camera my phone camera I've got the best pictures with my phone camera than I've gotten with other cameras which I still use but it's been my best one I mean really with those are the only two pieces you need and And I told us I basically a hundred bucks and you're good to go But like Tim said you can even start with just an audio recorder and like your phone camera You can't afford to be up to it like 50 bucks an audio recorder pretty pretty cheap you're good to go The only reason on top of that that I recommend the K2 other flashlights is for a little bit of a Instant gratification for lack of better term because you can actually see you know responses on the flashlight or through a K2 meter and those are good for public sense or I actually like those for residential because You'll homeowners lets them see you know And they don't have to wait to hear the audio or wait for us to go through photos I'm honestly like if you can't afford to get to meet another expensive begin with their like 50 $60 Accompass it's basically the same thing as an EMF detector more or less and you can get accomplished for like five ten dollars I'm gonna get them at the dollar sure yeah, you can get an expensive compass So when you can get an investigating for really cheap if you want yeah So really I mean even if you just do a public investigations You can get into some your own personal equipment for and then from there you can you can nickel and dime you know The funky things yeah, I spent a lot of money getting gear your phone is a great one It's got an audio recorder It's got and I'm grateful how will you have because there's certain situations where certain pieces of gear or handy You know someone's like oh shadow walks across your all the time well guess what I just have no shadow detector Let me set that up early so good laser goods work great. I can go ten investigations without ever playing out my shadow detector You know I've got a whole Case of equipment myself and if I'm doing a residential all pull out my flashlights my K2 is it usually when I use most my equipment is At the big public counts not because I'll hand it out to people usually people who I've seen on several hunts or no on some level Usually let them use my equipment just because I know I'm gonna have to hunt it down at the end of the night Or if I do at the other night need to hunt it down I know where to where to hunt But the fire station investigation we did was pretty neat we found a there were three type one spirits in the dormitory I'm remember their names again their names were Emily Mort and Roman Roman Roman Roman Roman I think yeah, and more it was actually short for more than work Because he was upset and I was like well I'd be upset to him anymore Yeah, but if you're old that was kind of common name back in the olden days But yeah, we found out that Emily had died of a heart attack She was like 41. Yeah, she I think he's 40 41, but she died of a heart attack and had been like a chain smoker her whole life Roman I believe I've committed suicide because he had And I remember about more In the corner I could feel him like I was like as soon as brandy get there I'm gonna see if there's a grumpy man standing right here because you mean other than me yes Geresevo grumpy men the one that I thought was interesting. He wasn't actually in the fire house.
He was outside was the spirit name Christian Oh, I didn't know everyone outside there was you know this you just don't know that you know this Christian Wasn't he's not involved in the fire house at all from what I understood I know there's a portal nearby and from what I was told by both peaches and caden this Christian spirit is the one that came and found me At the residential that we were doing before we did the fire house. That's right I'm still not sure as to why I have a theory, but I'm not a percent sure on as to why we'll talk about that investigation here just a minute back. Yeah, I do remember that now you say that you know, it's interesting because I was talking to Caden because Caden was there honest with this investigation And he mentioned to me today that he goes, you know that particular location that fire house was just a couple blocks from another investigation We did a really bad investigation that if near where this portal's at and so Is interesting that this place is in proximity to that one home that we had that a lot of really negative stuff In the basement of the fire house there were two spirits in the basement one was a type two male And his name was Jack if I remember right. Yep, and he was kind of a disco araguy.
He was a jerk. He was a jerky He was a druggie. He died of arrows Uh-huh, and then there was a type three spirit down there that was kind of just passing through Well, the thing I find interesting about Jack. He was a sadist He liked to see people suffering and he would actually go with probably still does I don't know if you guys crossed him or anything.
No, we got rid of it, but he would go I believe a few minutes early on runs with the firemen just to see people suffering and yeah He was kind of a sicko Yeah, and at the end of the night actually we ended up getting rid of Jack and the type three we sent them back in and so hopefully My spirit's there an hour of Christian who was outside more Roman and Emily. It was a good investigation It was a pretty low key investigation. It was a pretty quiet investigation. I mean I've seen a lot more evidence a lot more activity on other investigations, but I think it was good and it was fun and I think the firemen there actually really enjoyed it and It's interesting because this isn't the first firehouse.
We've done it's actually not the first time we've been contacted by a fire department There was another fire department that I can't say where that had an ambulance that was having issues They actually had to take it out of service because they were having so many issues with this particular ambulance And come to find out there were two spirits that were in the ambulance that were basically perished in DUI traffic accidents And they had stuck around more or less to help other people who were passing Through the process which I thought was kind of interesting. So let's since we talked about Christian Let's talk about what happened at the residential investigation team So towards the tail end of the residential like this is a residential we recently did and they were still having issues So we came back we should probably back up and say that we did this residential immediately before we went and Right before the fire station we actually left the house and went straight to the fire station Well, it was one that we did within the last like month or so and they came asked us to come back and check on some stuff and We kind of took care of the lion's share the problem the first time around. Yeah, it was just there's just a We talked about that investigation. Oh, it was the one where Tim got I got stabs.
I'm using my air quotations staff in the chest Oh, is this one that I went on the first time? Yes With the rock with the Native American yeah, I had the pink care bear that had an object attachment to it Okay, so we went back to the house because they were still having a little bit of activity and it was mostly family members I believe the ladies father was still with them But one of the one of the spirits that we got rid of had come back so we had to go get rid of him again Which happens that's not uncommon some investigation some of the darker ones especially you may have to go back Two three sometimes four times before you solve the problem seems to get better each time you go But it usually seems to take a handful of times before it is gone gone That's kind of what happened here They've had a little bit residual stuff hanging out just a little bit. Yeah, and we're able to get rid of it out of the basement And I remember Filling this need to like not be in the basement like we all had to go upstairs So we did and then I remember getting kind of drawn back into that back bedroom again with the mirror Like it just something didn't feel right about that mirror So I kind of put my cell in it and that's when the like the door started closing on me when I was standing in the door Way to the bathroom like the door just on its own like no one touching it just started slowly closing on me That's right I forgot and I remember saying okay, you need to stop and as soon as I said that the door stopped moving And we tried to debunk it and I say we spent probably a good five ten minutes trying to figure that door out See if it was something that was on we've from what we decided it wasn't anything that we did that or in any way that the door Sitting or anything like it was just kind of kept trying to close on me Yeah, the home had this bathroom mirror and this mirror was like the creepiest bloody Mary Mary ever did see I mean, I was like creepy. I say creepy.
It's just the most average looking bathroom mirror in the world I mean it's just right above the sink it's one of those I bet it's probably four four and a half This is a black family and you could probably buy the same here at Target and Walmart and Chumko and I bet you say it's probably about a five foot by five foot mirror and it's like the kind where the sides fold in and I try to find it behind us to the trifold mirror and but this mirror you walk into this bathroom, it's a newer house I mean, it's probably 20 years old maybe And See what comes back from this mirror just as plain Jane boring trifold mirror would give you the biggest TV Geebies you look into it and you almost started getting dizzy just looking into the mirror Well, it's when you look in the mirror and you're almost afraid to look into the mirror because you're afraid of what might be looking back at you You can almost feel something looking back at it at a particular mirror and we've talked about it before and mirrors are kind of Icky in the paranormal field. That's a technical from by the way icky Yeah, mirrors mirrors can tend to be portals for things. Uh, they can be misused and by both Things spiritual and by people. Uh, so mirrors always give me the heebie TV is a little bit Especially if it's older mirror.
You don't know where it came from or what history is talk about that a little bit with the Funerals of people in the 1800s. Oh, yeah, well back in the turn of the century Uh, it was common that if somebody died that have a you know nowadays you have a viewing you go down to the local, you know Billy Bob's uh, mortuary and you or a church or church and you have a viewing um, and the next day, you know, you should back up to The local church and mortuary and you have the service and then you bury grandma on the ground kind of thing Um back in the turn of century used to have oh, they called awake and it would be inside your home or inside their home Um, and so you just have grandma or uncle or whoever, you know laid out in their casket and then you take freaky pictures of them Yes, it's yes you would. Uh, you know between my cough and Tim's cough. It's like we're bunch of playgrounds in here Anyway, but they would cover the mirrors with black cloth And the idea was is they didn't want the spirits to get confused and to not know how to move on And so it was customary to cover any mirror or any super shiny object Uh in the home to prevent that from happening Right.
Well, and one of the and they I've seen paranormal experts do this even to this day is if you've got Spirit problems to put mirrors in your windows facing out Um, and that supposedly repels spirits. I haven't we need to ask brandy how well that works And they can just be small mirrors, right? Right. Oh, yeah, these are just little teeny, you know, probably four or five inch diameter mirrors in the windows See, I thought I saw a red somewhere I could be wrong on this but in some cultures and they used to like put mirrors over their eyes when they were dead Uh, I even not heard that but it could be I know they used to do coins, but that's that will be something to research I don't look into that.
I'm talking mirrors over the eyes. I think I've seen or heard that somewhere where they put mirrors over the the deceased's eyes Now type three spirits are near a big event. These that we've talked about they can choose to inhabit a mirror And mirrors can kind of become portals in and of themselves Um, in fact, yeah One of our locations where we had an entity that Tim and I named Bart actually Tim named him Bartholomew Bartholomew I call him Bart and it really pissed him off even worse. Um, I'm gonna tie him to christian And what's it tell you my theory is I'm gonna tie those two spirits together.
Okay. Well, what's interesting though is the room where Bart inhabits Is like a dressing room and as you get in this room, there's probably 20 or 30 mirrors in this room of various shapes and sizes on all four walls Um, it's just kind of the creepiest room that you can imagine as far as mirrors go and another secret super location and another super secret location Um And so this mirror in this bathroom was just like kind of the epicenter of everything in this house Um, unfortunately because it's a big trifold mirror, it's more or less built into the house I'm sure you can replace it because if it broke, it's not like a little wall mirror that you can Take off take out the dumpster, huck it out and go buy another $20 mirror wall martens a little more I just need a chance to paint glass to come out and re-glaze it. There you go. It's a little bit more of an involved mirror It's a true place.
It would probably be a few hundred dollars to to get that one replaced But it the first time we went to the home we thought we had dealt with things But the mirrors still have some issues and I think this time around we're done fact Actually you need to touch base with the homeowner so you were we're at with that So this time like I said, I put my selenite on the mirror Like all over the mirror and kind of held it for a second and like painting that they had above the bathtub was also gonna make creepy vibes So I put selenite on that too And you can kind of feel like after I did that I'm not saying that the selenite didn't think I'm just saying like shortly after that You kind of feel like the heaviness that was in that room kind of go away Let me curious because this is again most investigations if we're gonna have to go back two or three times It seems like each time we go back the problem is lesser and lesser Well, it's almost like you know how toddlers are teenagers kind of push about the stuff or you can go And then eventually they figure out where their limits are and I kind of get the same impression it's like well, let's see They kick me out is it? Did they just say to come back in? No, I still not say I still not say okay. I give up So it was after that with the mirror in the door closing all that I remember we were just kind of wrapping things up with the family And that's when out of nowhere I just felt like really sad and depressed and just kind of started Bawling more or less and had to remove myself from the house Which by the way for anyone who knows Tim the slob was where he's a big dude and Tim doesn't cry though I've seen Tim cry on a handful of occasions and Tim doesn't cry without a really good reason.
I mean Tim's just not the kind of dude who just sees a sunset and bursts into tears So if Tim cries You're something paranormal and freaky going on. Yeah, especially just out of the blue It's usually some kind of a I know it's a spirit like to use Tim to project certain emotions Yes, that's it's usually Sad It's or anger or frustration. This is the ones that I get the most anger frustrations. Just Tim It's mostly just sad Well, what I think is interesting is everybody's got their own the lobrometers I mean Tim I agree because I think that if there's a sad spirit it usually manifests through Tim the most I don't feel sadness and spirits.
I usually feel the anger grumpy annoyed Um, I mean if there's a sad spirit in the room, I'd probably be like, yeah, whatever Not something but you put someone in there that's on that other end of the spectrum Those are the ones that I can feel the best so so I actually Step outside and caden came with me and we both got that you know being that he's a medium and he can you know tell the stuff already But we both kind of got the feeling like, you know, whatever I was feeling it wasn't at that house that was actually at the firehouse which um, we were not too far from you know And it was like it said it was our next investigation So this is the first time that this ever happened to me where it wasn't at the current investigation where I felt the emotions Like something from the next investigation came and found me and started protecting its feelings onto me Well, it was and I bet it was probably three or four miles away from the firehouse And before we actually got to the firehouse caden is like, yeah, it's it's something involving suicide someone said And then once we got there, that's when we found out that uh roman had actually committed suicide due to extreme financial debt Which I find interesting because it's not like, you know, I am financially sound myself like you know, I've struggled with With the debt myself. So I just kind of having that kind of tie in between me and the spirit of the came and family was kind of I thought was interesting And it's interesting that you know that you'd feel from that distance But I mean we've had also occasions where brandy who isn't here tonight, but as a medium She can feel stuff from quite a distance away in fact. We've actually had investigations where I'm gonna pick on lurch because he's not here to fit himself Where lurch may be instigating something with a darker spirit and brandy will actually feel some effects Usually all the way up, you know, a county or two away. How about we're in sanniquin and she's in murray and she could feel it Yeah, and so it's possible for things to project Quite some distance actually In fact, it's interesting anytime we do it's something really dark If I talk to brandy, she's like, oh, that's why I lost time because she'll actually almost blackout for a period of time When stuff is going on where she'll just lose time on the clock where she'll look at the clock and then next thing She knows it's like 20 30 minutes later.
She can't really account for that missing time So she actually told me that it was that christian from firehouses when they came and found me And being that there is that big portal nearby What we were getting from the ghost meter pro we were actually asking you to ask him questions And I just started asking the questions like it's just for some reason at the The investigation the night before and during the fire station investigation through the echo box I kept getting the names of some people that we got at a different investigation Um, that you know, it's a super secret location. We've got a few of those Um the one you and I did right? I was getting the names of those people through the echo box two nights in a row at two different locations So I started asking questions like Were you sent here by someone and we were getting yes? And I'm like but I just started asking the questions just like it was just coming to me like I don't know why I was like putting this together But uh basically through the ghost meter pro and I'm not 100% sure on this But from the responses that we were getting that with the portal nearby and our friend Bart who has all his mirrors That he uses as portals Uh and the responses we were getting from the ghost meter pro christian was more or less sent by Bart To try to convince me that there's something wrong in the super secret location so we can get brandy back there and he can Try to attack her again.
Oh interesting. That would make sense That's that's kind of what we got through through caden and the ghost meter pro is that that's what basically why christian came and found me He was trying to convince me to go back to the super secret location now. We're venturing in speculation area Uh, I can't confirm any of this, but that's just kind of like the feeling that I was getting Well, and it's interesting to say that like I said now we're venturing into speculation So bear with me as we speculate, but I mean I just mentioned that that particular location where Bart is at there's probably 20 or 30 mirrors that he straight-up told brandy that he uses as his portals right as gonna say and the location where we're at residential location Had a problematic mirror. Um, and so I wonder if there's a tie there between even those two locations that that particular entity is using Uh, like you said, we've actually had a few instances and I think we've talked about it briefly where Things have specifically targeted, uh peaches.
Um, I know somebody contacted us with uh An investigation, uh, at a undisclosed location and stuff like that they wanted us to come investigate and the more we did research Well, didn't they just straight up at one point and just said just send your medium? Yeah, well, I'm gonna say like they didn't want the rest of the team. They just wanted her to go by herself Right. They were telling us, uh, you know, what was going on and lady said basically her boyfriend was worshiping state and type of deal Uh, you know doing black magic, wegibords and Basically said had just had your medium drive by just you know just sent her over and just every single one of us in the team was like, you know What doesn't smell right with this?
This doesn't pass the smell test and you know, as we kind of looked at it and looked at the situation Just everything pointed towards, you know, how do we get brandy alone? Um, and we've had a few things like that crop up over the course of Well since was has been around since brandy's been on the team. We've had a few occasions where we've gone to cases where You could tell that it was probably devised specifically to be problematic for her And she's always gotten warnings kind of ahead of time through her gift not to go on those particular investigations They know we talked about the scary investigation and twillah, uh, that was one of the ones that had her grandma and all of her spare guides Basically again in the same thasen salt lake that said if you go here you'll die And you know and just to touch back on the house and salt lake the more information they gave me that I just got to point where said You know what we're not gonna be able to help you on this and we'll go deal with any dark location But in this particular location when I heard what was still going on the house on a regular basis You know, I'm I'm not gonna take myself for the team into a house where you know black magic or wegibords are currently in use You know, we'll go somewhere where that stuff has happened before and people are feeling the after effects of it You know, whether they've moved into a house or bought a new house or put that kind of stuff behind them and want to clean slate But if they're currently doing those kind of things, there's really no Reason to go that there's nothing that we can do to fix the problem if they're just gonna bring it right back Right, it's like trying to help someone comes over that's buying, you know, a 30 pack every day It's like trying to help an alcoholic who works at the state liquor store. It's probably the best way to put it Or someone quit smoking the works at the smoke shop Right, exactly and so with that particular house, I just said look, you know, until Like the lady wanted help but her boyfriend who she lived with was happening with all the stuff I said as long as you're with this guy and live in the same home I'd love to help you but we can't you know, we've had a few investigations.
We've had to tell people look We've done what we can do but until this changes in the home, uh, You know, don't call us. We'll call you kind of thing And so we've had that a few times, but that residential investigation is interesting because that's the one where we found the creepy Pink care bear that had an odd just attachment. I'm a little porcelain doll Yeah, in fact the second time around we found out we located a porcelain doll that was hidden in the storage room that had some I don't think they only had an attachment as much that had some energy. I had some residual energy on it But yeah, it was it was interesting because myself and Kaden hung right in on it That there was something going on in that storage room and we kind of narrowed it down to a bin And as we in fact, it's kind of funny because we opened the bin and started fishing around in there The homework is rich by the way, we don't just like going people's homes and art fishing through their uh, Stuff through their belongings, you know, we usually ask hey, can you mind if we look in this bin?
But we pulled out that doll and I was like, yeah, that doll's not been because it gives us the creeps That's a clue. We call that a clue. Um, But that was an interesting night ball for those but the night before and I don't think any of you guys here went to cleaves cabin though Yeah, we didn't know work prevented me from going but it didn't keep me from going to the family tree that night Which we'll talk about also. Um, but cleave Evans we've had on the show if you haven't listened to some of our older episodes Um, the cleave Evans investigation episode is pretty good.
We actually brought him on as a guest And that's gonna be pretty early on so if you're looking back, yeah, it's gonna be one of the it's like episode 10 I believe maybe earlier than that. I think you're right. Scary one Yeah, the scary one is the name of the episode and cleave talks about some of the stuff going on in his house And his is one of we have like we're telling the family we're just talking about one with a creepy mirror in their bathroom We also heard a cousin's house that we had to throw that mirror away that It was a tiny mirror, but it took mark and myself to carry it out Like it just felt like it kept getting heavier and heavier as we were trying to go throw it away Well, it's interesting because we're telling the family that we went to before the the firehouse investigation You know, because they were kind of concerned I said look, you know, if we're in a rate an investigation on a one to ten scale Of one being like cast for the friendly ghost and ten being like amity bill They're easy there Tim we told him it was like a nine and a half and scale the crab out of them No, we told them there's probably like a 2.5. Maybe it may be a three but more like a 2.5 2.5.
You said three and i'm like not two Yeah, I think we settled on two. We settled on 2.5. I said three because we had to come back I said two because yeah, but cleaves house for instance on that same 10 scale. Yeah, that's like a nine I'd say eight and a half is where I put cleaves house and we've since gone back I think i've been to cleaves house four five times and I think i say his house now is probably like a three or four I was gonna say he's still got activity, but he's down to about three and I know what the issue is I just need to get back up there.
He's got some object attachments because last time we were there I know I missed one. I felt it and I should have called it out. Um, and I know exactly what the object is But yeah, so his house has gotten progressively better. It's livable at this point But he also has a cabin that he has for sale and he's had a bugger over time trying to sell it And so he asked if we would come up to his cabin and Do an investigation up there essentially and I took myself I took Nate Elder one up with us.
I took Alica Amy and some other investigators. I thought that's right I took Hayden up there And it's interesting because we got to cleaves cabin and you walk in and it's a beautiful cabin And his home is beautiful too, but you get to his cabin and it has that same dark kind of icky feel and as uh We went through the cabin uh, K-9 identify two portals in the garage as A garage on the bottom level on the basement level and kind of a concrete garage and there's a portal in there And there's a portal in his downstairs Living room area if we went through there were probably I would say 10 negative entities 10 type three spirits in this cabin I mean it was just it was dark and as we got investigating The spring for the recording. I you know, the only reason why I'm tagging that is because on our last episode Uh, we actually had some email us that there was a couple people contact us actually there There was a there was a little bit of whispering and I'm almost positive that it was brandy whispering something to me because she does that on occasion Usually it doesn't get picked up on the audio though So there was some whispering on the last podcast that some people asked us if it was a EVP Pretty sure it was brandy whispering something to me Anyway, so back to cleaves cabins as we got in there. Um, we heard some audible growls Um as we started searching around a couple people kept seeing like glowing eyes in his furnace room in this cabin And once they cabin it's it's more of a house in on the side of a mountain.
It's it's nicer than your run of the mill cabin Um But as we got investigating we figured out that the previous owners had been involved in some pretty dark stuff and had taken some stuff Up there the cabin actually wasn't related to his house Um, it was its own issues up there essentially Um It's kind of funny though because we went through the house caden goes oh, there's no object attachments here in the house Okay, so I you know got walking through and he had this owl that was up above the front door As soon as I saw this owl, I just kind of stood and stared at it for like five minutes And that's probably an exaggeration for like four and a half minutes, but uh Something's had really wasn't five it was four minutes and 59 seconds. Okay, what's somebody left of that? Um So I went down to can I said are you sure there's not an object attachment this house? I'm pretty sure there is and I've gotten pretty good at picking up on object attachments They have a vibe if I see something has an object attachment just puts off a I can't even explain it It's just it's almost like the object is looking at you.
Um And so that's kind of why stare at for a few minutes. I'm trying to think Deans Raven has an object attachment and we might need to get rid of it No, it's pretty awesome. It's staying attachment. It's kind of attachment Anyways, we went through the house in fact you might find this interesting because we're investigating and we're using uh, dosmeter pros and Different things and as we were investigating um, Alec was down in the basement.
Uh, and the basement it's basically a living room Was down there in the basement. I was down in the basement and caden was down in the basement And there's three couches in the space and they're kind of set in a kind of a u-shape Basically one on all but one wall. Um And we're each on our own couch as we're sitting there in the dark, you know asking questions trying to get flashlights turn on we were doing flashlight activity Um, alica asked she goes does that mean anything if I can metallic taste of my mouth? Um, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, why don't you explain that for a stem?
Well see um One of the things that a demonic spirit will do sometimes right before it kind of more or less attacks you As uh, you'll get that metallic copper taste in your mouth almost like you're sucking on a new penny Yeah, which which i've experienced before and i'll tell you it's not a fun experience because shortly after the copper taste there was the uh, The foul body odor decaying flesh combined smell and then you know, then I was dry heaving and and you're fearing for my life After that that's it's not fun, you know, and we did get a couple of loaders there nothing that overpowering But uh, yeah, as soon as alica's like i've got a metallic taste my mouth. That mean anything i mean kid i'm both like um, uh, come over here to work Right now, uh, and so i got issued in caden at one point it was getting attacked. Um, he was fighting for all he was worked to keep from uh, Basically having a psychic attack um at that point essentially After dealing with that for a few minutes that he said it was time to kind of clean house and we went in we were able to Hopefully not the cabin is interesting though before that though we got upstairs And I said caden I said there's an object attachment here and he kind of stood there close his eyes for a second And he extended his arm in two directions goes i'm feeling stuff from both these directions and his right hand was actually pointed I mean his eyes closed but his right hand was pointed directly at that dam owl and uh After a few minutes he was at that owl isn't it like yep? And so we took the owl down and their best to cleanse i told cleave to get rid of that dam owl and uh It was like a sculpture owl was it a stuffed owl?
I mean um it's all enough stuffed owl will send you to the federal prison. Um, and so what it is is it was an owl that Someone had made that looked like a real stuffed owl, but it was actually rabbit fur instead of feathers Um, and so it was basically a replica stuffed owl any owl or just certain owls Um, I think we'll send you to prison. I don't know. I mean not that I I don't know I just know that contact your local tech I just know that burning parts of birds are praised like not so you know about owls, but you don't know about seagulls I don't know Yes, yeah, let me text it Yeah, she said all of us attacks I love the group text that go on just between the two of you because the rest of us don't care Well, you should about seagulls on the road in Utah if you find i did see what you're supposed to contact wildlife And I know that from my previous work experience.
Okay. Um, because there are seagulls Yes, but the california seagull is the utah seagulls a bird and the colorado blue spruce is our tree Unless you're a native american with permanent. I don't believe you can own any parts of birds of prey. Um, parts Hey, we've still got off the subject.
Yeah, we've filtered again. Hey, we're a paranormal You were like me a normal had to mix it up in life Anyway, it was interesting because I ended up taking a photo of this owl among my 30 or 40 photos And the next day when I saw peaches, I said hey, do you mind just checking out the photos from the investigation the night before? And it's interesting because she was able to confirm All the different places were caden had seen things Um And when I got to picture the algae puts the dog there's an object attachment with that. I was like, yeah So I was vindicated on my owl object attachment.
Uh, you could just feel it. It just had a vibe. Do you want a cookie? No, it's not that I need to not be that Um, perhaps you would get the man a guy a pep.
So you found an object attachment. Let's get the man a guy a pep. So you'll hear any arguments from me on that one Um, so that was cleaves cabin. It was It was it wasn't the biggest venue we've ever done, but it had some definite creep factor I played his cabin probably a six on the 10 scale of dark Bad locations.
I kind of wish I could have been there for that actually I kind I could have been there for that But I decided to attend a different investigation and lay some groundwork for an upcoming episode of our podcast Where would that be? I'd be the family tree restaurant. We've never been there before. No the family tree in case any of you haven't ever listened to any rishos ever The talk about like every up the family tree is the place that apparently we only investigate And we don't go anywhere else by the way, I have to clarify something like hook with the family tree Um because we talked about a lot and me and Tim got discussed in this the other night Yeah, I noticed that we kind of we kind of make it seem like it's a very bad place And from a spiritual standpoint, it's a very dark location Um, I I think it's easily if not the darkest one of the darkest places It's one of the darkest places, but me and Tim are always like oh, it's terrible.
It's terrible It's terrible and we don't want to drive people away from the family tree because actually their food's not bad Their food is phenomenal. I like I enjoy eating there and I sort of told Corey that the other night that Yeah, I mean if you guys weren't in Santa Kwan and I didn't live in Salt Lake like it was closer I'd probably come here once a week like I really enjoy their food They've got they really do have good food. I mean it's like room cooking I just have one word They've got great scones If you I mean you order a scone before you order the scone ask him how big it is because if you take four people in each order A scone you're gonna have scone coming out your nose hairs. Yeah, they're easily the size of a dinner place If you move your scone, you'll find your stake underneath it I was talking to Greg Pascal before this because I was actually up recording Gray's got new music right before I came down here and yeah, that's the same thing he mentioned He's like I love their scones.
They're almost a male in and of themselves I mean there's a lot of bread in those scones So imagine your dinner plate your scones twice as big Yeah, their scones are it depends because of the shape berries I've seen them around I've seen them long but like even either way it's twice as big as dinner plate Even their long scones are about the size of a loaf of french bread Yeah, pretty much I mean they're massive and they're delicious They're amazing Um, anyway, so I just want to clarify because we got talking and we talk about the family tree lot And when we do we're always talking about how bad it is The restaurant and the food is phenomenal I think we'd like the Fort Douglas military museum If you go see the museum, it's a great museum It's a fine location to go look at military history But if you do it from an investigative standpoint, Fort Douglas is a pretty dark location too And that's kind of when we say how bad the family tree is that's what we're talking about the investigative aspect Not the going to visit me Yeah, the restaurant itself is it's awesome and I highly recommend going there at least once a month I would actually venture to say that well, I wouldn't venture to just slide out the truth Is that if you just go into the restaurant to actually eat You're not even in the dark part of the building The dark part is not really open to general public Yeah, the only way you're getting into the dark part of the building is if you Decide to throw a party for like 30 or more people and you ask to use the banquet room Yeah, yeah, the banquet room is kind of the dark spot In the basement in the basement yeah in the main dining area where you eat That's the skin walker's territory he'll come in if you know he'll go to country he'll come protect you Yes, he will he's very nice. There's also the little girl kimber that will come and play with you She's a very friendly spirit that's on the side the main lobby side But I went there to Want to investigate with our friends at the badass baredellos If you haven't had a chance to investigate with these guys, I highly recommend it Um, investigating is fun in and itself, but it's awesome I find it more enjoyable when you kind of like investigate with other groups just to kind of see how everybody else does it It's it's I don't know how to describe it. It's just it's everybody does stuff a little bit different has some different things that they like to do Right when I've you know if I've ever investigated I mean even on the chunk of hunts where just you don't take it Holders come I mean even they've got different techniques and I think oh I've never seen that before that's interesting So you can always learn you know from other groups and they can learn from us And you know there's sometimes there's stuff that other groups are willing to do that maybe you know one group is not willing to do And it's kind of fun to experiment a little bit with some of some investigating techniques like for example While I was there with with them. I've never seen anyone use the dozing rods before I've got a set But I almost never use them.
Um these things were it was they were going like crazy like the responses were instant But only when one particular person use them when they actually have Um A little plastic tubes around the dozing rods that you're basically holding on the tube and the dozing rods are you can't control the rods They're free swinging so it's not the person you holding the rods you know it's not the person controlling the rods Um when we got the investigation going Um there are some people that wanted to check out the basement because they've heard they've listened to our show and they've heard about the Basement and they wanted me to take them down there and I'm like okay So we're down there and someone pulled out a spirit box and And you know we made sure that everyone knew they kind of like I kind of told them I'm like don't I'm like there's this one spirit that's down here. Let's not try to talk to her. Let's try to talk to other people And that's exactly what they did we're trying to talk to the people Someone was it was it was see. Yeah, they were trying to not they were trying to avoid her Um they were actually really good at trying to invite the positive spirits, but they were in the wrong part of the building to do that Um that would be the public side of the public dining.
They were in the basement and Lucy's dungeon Um trying to talk to camera watch it. Lucy's dungeon. I'm gonna make a sign next time we go Panging that sign over the doorway the basement. Yeah, they were they were in Lucy's dungeon talking to cambering To me.
That's just like a work because I know camber doesn't want to go anywhere near Lucy or her dungeon But I remember someone pulled out a spirit box and and uh sometimes when I'm investigating and we're using like an echo box or whatever Um, I tried to I close my eyes to just kind of the height in my Uh hearing a little bit because I gave him a stark I could still see like people's lights and stuff like that So I just had it shut up all light all together and I heard a voice in my head that wasn't my voice And it said and kill everyone. Yes kill everyone you want to burn things It actually told me quite the opposite of that. It said go check on Jen And so I did go kill Jen yes go stab her with a pitchfork Celebrate celebrate her death with the blood of your enemies Um So I went upstairs I excused myself from the group that I was with and uh went upstairs and just sat up there with her and her friend And who's another psychic? And I didn't like I said I didn't tell him the basement why I was leaving I just got up and left and about five minutes after I Came upstairs a one of the other investigators Uh came up and and said hey does the name hang community thing to you guys And the two mediums that they just kind of looked each other and they're like no and I'm like mean something to me You know hold on hold that thought for just a minute It's interesting that you say the name hank and I know we've invested in her thing.
I want to play a quick evp right here Okay, anyway, you can hear right there and 10 point about actually can hear this bear box in here castle come across But right after you hear castle here that really high-pitch females voice say here comes hank Um jay, I hear that yeah, yeah, and I'm I played again, but it's podcast people just rewind a little bit and you can hear it again Um or it's also on our website with sta.org if you really want to go here here comes hank Anyway, sorry can go ahead. So yeah, what I found fascinating is I you know i'm upstairs with uh Jen and her friend and And I like I said, I didn't tell anybody why I was up there other than I told Jen and um Which at this point there's no communication with the people down stairs as to why I left but the girl comes up and goes Does hank me anything to you guys and they're like no one like it does to me And they're like well We just got through on the spirit box that hank is coming and trying to find you Jen And this is this is right after that someone or something told me that I needed a basically protect Jen And uh the rest of the night um I actually they at one point hank was standing right behind me And they told me that and and they're like, well, can you film can you film standing behind you and I told them all no But I could like I knew he was standing right behind me But I just kind of didn't want to give him that the satisfaction right um more or less But uh he ended up standing right behind Jen and what was what was really interesting that during that investigation is she was using the dowsing rods And I said is there someone here in this room that you want to attack and the dowsing rods immediately spun around and pointed right at Jen And I'm like is there somebody here that you uh you want to leave and every time I asked that question the dowsing rods were Friend and um I found out after they started doing this that the main reason why an was there is because Jen had a bad feeling That something was gonna happen to her and her friend and was there to uh help protect her Oh interesting and getting the getting responses from the dowsing rods and we're also using the obvious for at one point I put it on phonetic mode and any of you that have ever used the obvious you know it's it's uh It's just a really garbled like computer generated voice that comes through that thing right um we were getting in phonetic mode Uh if phonetic mode really clear it was coming through saying an I'm like what about an and it started saying go And I'm like she's not leaving anywhere and then so I kept asking like the dowsing rods Is there someone in the room that you hate and it kept pointing the an like is there someone in the room that you like and it kept pointing the Jen Oh interesting and uh what I thought was the most interesting out of that night was uh using the phonetic mode in the On the obvious and like I mentioned the the voice is just kind of like computer generated Um, I might have this on audio. I have to go back and listen to it But myself and several of the other investigators actually heard my voice come through the obvious Oh, that's interesting because the obelisk is a just a computer generated voice. Yeah, you know That's why I'm saying anyone that's using it that you know that's just a computer generated voice and my voice actually came through the obvious Which is interesting because on echo box, you know, it's not uncommon to hear people's voices come through on the echo box Um, but the obelisk there's no rhyme or reason for someone's voice Yeah, I've heard my voice through the echo box and I've heard through spear boxes But this is the first time I've actually heard my voice through the obvious which I thought was really kind of fascinating and creeping all at the same time But I remember at one point like, you know, just kind of testing out the dalting rods I'm like hey, can you point at eva and it you know straight pointed at her and Uh, you know, it answered questions like instant instantly when general's holding the dalting rods when I tried it nothing And like I started passing stuff around that you know Try to get other people to use the dalting rods because they had a couple sets and it was just the set that she owned that when she held it It's the only time it would do anything and I uh, you know, she tried to put them away and I'm like What can I just I just want to ask one more question.
She's like, okay, and I go Are you only wanting only want to communicate with Jen and immediately we got a yes response and she got freaked out I'm like you can put them away now I'm like I guarantee you could pass those dalting rods around this entire room and have everybody try it and it would only work for you Now I'm curious because like I said, I've got a set that was given to me an investigation and uh I'm gonna be curious now to pull those out next time we go family tree because I usually don't use them just because I prefer the scientific stuff My favorite thing is I asked uh I asked Hank if Lucy sent him after Jen and we got an instant yes response And uh, I know that you were wrapping up with cleaves house I think you were actually home at that point and I know you don't live extremely far away No, I only live probably 15 minutes. So I actually I actually asked I asked Hank and Lucy I'm like, do you want me to have castle come down here instant? No They don't like me. I'm like, do you want me to have lurch come down again instant?
No Like they don't like him either But but what was funny is uh hearing about your investigation in the cleaves house according to uh, caden He saw projection of Lucy at cleaves house. Oh, I forgot about that Yes, well, I was down investigating family tree, uh, which is interesting because I think we talked about that uh podcast before last Or maybe it was last podcast I can't remember when we went to the life on the rock studio into investigation there Laura Hicks had actually had a lucy projection up at her house and Lucy is known to do that She'll actually Kind of project her she never leaves a family tree, but she can appear to and can do things at the locations where she appears at Um, but yeah, we did we actually had a lucy made a cameo at cleaves cabin for for a minute Um, there's actually some interesting things that they're actually I named two more type three's that we had uh Bob the blob who's just kind of a black floating bob blob of goo Um, and then we had shimp which was kind of a weird looking goat dog cross thing Which is funny because chimp was one of the original three sieges Yeah, well, I named this particular type three shimp because he was problematic so was bob Um But we have a future plans to go back to the family train. I know Tim's been working around the clock's trying to get some public per chance set up The end of october, um, we're still working out details of that. Uh, so keep keep tuned You'll find that one way or another.
We will be doing something there in october more than likely Um, uh public investigation. Uh, we had another topic which we're gonna cover tonight, but I think we might just leave it alone Uh till the next uh To our next podcast and I'll just kind of tease a little bit. Uh, there's a few paranormal Not public pages private pages on facebook for the utah paranormal groups that kind of touch base and Communicate with each other and somebody brought up a question as to whether or not anybody investigated while under the influence of something Uh something being drugs alcohol, etc. Um, I was quite surprised by some of the responses Amazed by some of the responses and almost a little scared for some individuals Uh, but there are some folks who like to investigate not our team, thankfully Uh, while in a heightened way of a state of awareness stoned and or drunk, uh, it's probably the best way to put it I have a story for that that we'll touch on and yeah, we'll I don't know when that's gonna be though because I think our next episode Our next podcast will actually be at the paranormal festival.
It will so it might be a couple episodes down Dan, it's your responsibility to remember that because i'm in charge of remembering Um, actually I think I have our next two episodes lined up for us already I think you do too. So it may be a few Uh, and just to kind of tease that as well, we actually will be recording well not live for you guys. It'll be live for us We're actually in recording episodes from the weekly rest we always record live. Yes, we'll do it live To record later to play record dead.
Um, but we'll be recording from location. How's that? On location at the family tree It'll be probably a month from today actually or would that be the paranormal festival? No, that will be our next episode will be the paranormal festival So the next one will be the paranormal festival which will be held october 1st Uh from noon to 9 p.m Um, we're gonna have some special guest speakers this year.
We're gonna have uh, jimmy lynn darling I believe she is the lady that has that really haunted clown. Um, I believe she'll be there with that again Uh, we also have a special guest speaker from the tv show ghost of shepherd town. Uh bill heartly will be there And then we also have uh april miller and berry strong will also be there Um, they'll be they'll be special guest speakers will also have the panels of the uh, well the ufo and zombie panel I will have a psychic panel and a paranormal panel and there's an itinerary yours truly will be on the paranormal panel. No, I won't That would be better if I was on there Mwah, that's saturday right saturday.
I said we're october 1st. Uh, it's at the karen gell melon conference center Uh in sandy. I believe the address is the website doesn't have it. That's Awesome.
We will be recording there on site. Um, our next episode should be kind of interesting because we're gonna be grabbing different people Um to come talk to us. And so you're probably gonna get some interviews with some different people probably some of the guests that tim has talked about Um, I'll post the address on facebook and we may even talk to some of you guys if you show up Excuse me. Why?
Or if you know facebook, you know, shoot me an email at uh, tim at wisps.org and i'll send you the information for the paren world festival Tickets are only $10 Uh children 12 and under are free if you wait until the day of the festival tickets will be 15 dollars at the door I can tell you up front that this event has happened Uh, three years in a row the first two years were done by a different individual This year the planning has been done by a different group and they've actually put a lot of work into it Um, and so it's gonna be better than the last two years and on top of that Um, the ticket prices they have Grop significantly because the last two years the tenants hasn't been that awesome and the ticket prices were kind of astronomical 25 or 30 a person this year they're only 10 so yeah, and the year before that I think they were what 40 or 50 person Although I think I think it depends there was a couple different packages because you can buy like the early access and then there was uh, with an investigation And I said the first year I know included an investigation so the ticket prices were actually pretty reasonable considering Uh, but last year they were pretty steep for what you got but this year it's very very reasonable Um, and it should be interesting if you were interested in the stuff we're talking about you should really come to the show You're gonna get me a lot of other groups. You're gonna see people's evidence. Um, you can buy stuff Uh, like k2 meters things of that nature. It'll be it'll be worth your time Yeah, come on.
I'll also find the information for this because they've recently announced that there will also be an investigation that night Uh hosted by a camera which group it was but uh, it's gonna be going from midnight to four in the morning at the off-Broadway theater downtown So if you've never investigated there or if you've been there like it's one of my favorite venues So I'll probably be hitting up that investigation after the festival that might be kind of interesting so they are doing investigations You're gonna uh, yeah, it's it's well they've been doing fundraising investigations throughout the year They just did their last one their family tree. That's when I went to uh, but they're they're also doing Um, bad ass paid outlets will be there. I'm gonna be there. I'll take that right.
I'll be there so that's at least one reason to come I've got a throat out there too, but what we're talking about is that we're gonna be doing in fact I'm asking for the first time this is gonna be suppressed for everybody in the group But we'll be doing a wisp fundraiser there and for two dollars you get a sit on ten this lab whisper is lap for two minutes So uh, if you want to sit on ten's lap make sure you come by the booth bring two dollars Let me talk about it over pops up. Yeah, he does accept credit cards. Oh, we are still not gonna be making any money Actually, we have some really we have some really cool wristbands that I had made. Yes There are some wristbands will be selling those for I believe a dollar piece Um, we'll also be taking t-shirt orders if you would like a wisp t-shirt Um, since we are self-funded and we don't actually charge for our services Um, we will be taking orders for t-shirts and we'll order them as people desire them So you won't be able to buy them because I'm too poor and everybody else here is too poor Well, and I also felt that would be a great way to kind of like make sure people have the sizes They want like right that we don't have to we don't run out of inventory We just that way that I have a box of quadruple X shirts in my garage.
You will have the shirt you want Yes, exactly. Um, so if you want a wisp t-shirt it'd be great to show up and you can order you a wisp t-shirt Um, and it will be most awesome Yes I actually got feedback on the shirts that we ordered for our lasso fundraiser and for indiegogo And one galley think it was Sandra Sandra. That wasn't you. Um, sorry.
I just seers Sandra on the page In you. Um, I took her shirt because she literally closed me and she sent me an email. She says this is great This is a great shirt. It's embroidered.
It's awesome So we'll be doing the same thing. We'll just we'll be taking orders and we'll have the shirts made And then we'll send them out to you. Um, I'm just gonna throw this out there David Ward Caleb, I expect to see you at the Fs hole. Yeah, if you guys aren't there, you've got on my list You're going on the list.
Um What happens when it's kind of in Caleb's backyard, so especially if he's not there. He's toast Caleb and Kelton. Um, so anyway come to the festival. It will be awesome.
Anything else we need to plug? Uh, shows? Let's plug some stuff. Oh, before we plug shows, um, it is October's coming up Which is the season of Chunga Hunt's.
Um, I haven't heard dates yet. Um, I've been in contact with Chunga, but I haven't got dates yet Um, but I know this is the month where we generally do it. Uh, I don't know when, where, or how many investigations we're doing yet But keep your eye posted on the Goblin Ghost Hunt's webpage or the Pod Bash webpage or our webpage Um, and there will be hunts in October. Um, I guarantee there will be hunts in October.
Um, most likely So I'm working on some even if it's not a Chunga Hunt. I'll make sure we've got stuff in the works even if Um, and I know that with some of the challenges that the radio run on folks been working that it may be kind of a call worker this year But I know that they're still trying working hard to put some stuff together and like Kim said if they're not able to pull it off We will certainly be doing some stuff to you know You know what I was just saying since we already know that we're gonna be filming or not filming a recording on location with the family tree coming up here Uh, you know after we're done recording maybe we can buy some of the if there's some of you listeners that want to come and have lunch with us Uh, contact us email Gary or email Castle You know what we'll give you the information you come down and have lunch with us after we've been recording I'm actually gonna Maybe I'm gonna change that up a little bit. I like where you're going with that Um Given the fact that it's gonna be you me a couple owners of the venue and probably mr. Pascal himself Um, I think there's a room to have two other people to guess record with us.
Oh, yeah, we can do that Um, and so if you're interested in recording with us Um, send us or send me an email castle at wist.org Um, and we will pick somebody um, and we will record I don't know how we're gonna pick somebody but we'll pick some couple bodies and maybe the most creative you know Yeah, it might be fun. Yeah, it's rated PG. Tell us your scariest ghost, uh, experience I was gonna say actually the most creative reason as to why you need to go investigate or I like this a record at the family tree CC me on all of these CC Yes, Tim, Tim, what's that work? I want to read these I want to be able to help choose whoever comes up with the most creative reason as to why we should pick you to have lunch and Podcast with us at the family tree.
We will pick one or two individuals and we will have you as a guest On location for that particular podcast. So castle are you buying lunch or are they they got by your lunch? You gotta make your way down there. But the prizes you get to be there Ooh, I'm too part of our lunch too.
Um, we could do an indigo go to raise money for people to pipe your There they could just find their own lunch Don't forget to listen to radio Ronan. Um, Greg's guide to new music. I think I'm gonna be on the next one I think you are but by the time our show airs that his might have already been on that's true level 22 Um runcast one of my new favorite shows life on the rocks, please, you know, that's one of the there's a lot of shows I'll be honest. I don't get to listen to them all.
I always listen to radio Ronan I never listen to this show because I'm here live. So what does it listen to? And life on the rocks is one. I don't catch all of them But I that's one I will make a point to look and see what their episodes about and I'll listen to it Looks like it's something that's interesting to me listen to the great guys and music with the one that I'm on He played a lot of good songs today.
Like I was like he always plays good songs He does but I mean it was like it's weird because like I've never really explained my taste of music to him But like it seems like every song he picked today was kind of like tailored for me It was kind of like it was all stuff that I would listen to it was really cool. So do we miss any shows? Probably bake and sell bake and sell Screw you Kenny. He probably doesn't listen to this anyway, so no, um, I'm too good for them There's a lot of shows still listen to them if there's something for everybody and as I understand it There are some new shows in the works.
Um, anyway, uh, have a good night send those emails castle at west dot org cc to tim at west dot org We will forward them to the end so she can see Um, and we'll see you guys later have fun storming the castle. I don't know storming castle. I hurt funny storm castle You're listening to the wisps was that you investigative studies for paranormal sites They're grown as adults. They like to sit in the dark and talk to each other, but they all love their moms So that should account for something