Platform Engineering • Ajay Chankramath & Nic Cheneweth

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techCheck out more here:https://gotopia.tech/articles/429Ajay Chankramath - Founder & CEO at Platformetrics & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"Nic Cheneweth - Principal Consultant at Thoughtworks & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"RESOURCESAjayhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/chankramathhttps://github.com/achankrahttps://x.com/ajchantwhttps://chankramath.comhttps://platformetrics.comNichttps://www.linkedin.com/in/nicchenewethhttps://github.com/nchenewethhttps://x.com/NicChenewethhttps://ncheneweth.comLinkshttps://effectiveplatformengineering.comhttps://epetech.iohttps://dora.devhttps://dora.dev/research/2025/dora-reportDESCRIPTIONAjay Chankramath (founder and CEO of Platformetrics) and Nic Cheneweth  Cheneweth (Principal Technologist at ThoughtWorks) explore the evolving world of platform engineering. They discuss why a product mindset is critical for internal platforms, how control planes and API-first design create scalable foundations, the real challenges organizations face when implementing Backstage, and where AI and agents are beginning to change the platform landscape. Throughout, both speakers emphasize that cutting corners on architectural foundations ultimately compounds problems at scale.RECOMMENDED BOOKSChankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering • https://amzn.to/3OnxN8iGregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdbBlueskyInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!