Play as Sanctuary with Dr. Deborah MacNamara

Play is often treated as something extra — something we squeeze in when the “real learning” is done. But what if play is actually essential? What if, for many children, play is a sanctuary?In this episode of the Teach Outdoors Podcast, I’m joined by developmentalist, counsellor, and author Dr. Deborah MacNamara to explore the idea of Play as Sanctuary and what true, restorative play looks like in outdoor learning spaces — especially in schools.Together, we unpack why unstructured outdoor play matters for children’s emotional and developmental health, what’s really happening when kids struggle during free play, and how educators can support regulation and resilience without controlling or shutting play down. We also talk honestly about the tensions teachers feel between holding space for play and meeting curriculum expectations — and why that tension might be worth sitting with.Dr. MacNamara brings deep wisdom from her work with children and adults, as well as insights from her books Rest, Play, Grow and Nourished, helping us make sense of big feelings, big behaviour, and the role play has in helping children feel safe, seen, and restored.In this episode, we explore:What true outdoor play looks like (and how it differs from structured activities or recess)How children’s four irreducible needs show up during outdoor playWhy some students struggle with unstructured time — and how to support them without directing their playWhat “big behaviour” during or after outdoor time is really telling us developmentallyCommon fears educators have about unstructured play — and what research and clinical experience say about themHow restorative play builds genuine resilience (not just “toughening kids up”)Why play offers children rest — and how outdoor play restores in unique waysHow teachers can honour play while still feeling accountable to curriculum and learning goalsAs we wrap up, this conversation is a powerful reminder that play isn’t optional — it’s a developmental need. For many children, outdoor play is where they regulate, process, and reconnect with themselves and others.✨ Resources mentioned: You can explore nature-based resources, ideas, and online courses for educators at teachoutdoors.ca — perfect for pro-D days, staff learning, or self-paced professional growth.If this episode resonated with you, consider sharing it with a colleague who could use permission to slow down and trust play a little more.Until next time — get outside, and keep playing.