EPISODE · May 14, 2025 · 58 MIN
Playing God or Saving Nature? Gene Editing, Artificial Wombs & the Return of Extinct Species | Ben Lamm PT 2
from Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
Welcome back to the second half of this eye-opening discussion with Ben Lamm, CEO of Colossal Biosciences. In Part 2, Tom and Ben dig even deeper, tackling the massive ethical questions and transformative possibilities that arise when humans hold the keys to edit and design life itself. Whether it’s confronting the future of embryo screening, germline editing, the potential for designer babies, or the international arms race in biotechnology—no topic is off limits. Ben shares insider stories on Colossal’s dire wolf project, explains misconceptions about cloning, and reveals the unexpected hurdles and breakthroughs in the world of synthetic biology. They discuss how these advances can directly impact human longevity, environmental crises like plastic pollution, and even set the stage for building the living cities and ocean habitats of tomorrow. This is a no-holds-barred, jam-packed episode for anyone intrigued by the future of engineering life—and the urgent questions we all must face as the bio-revolution unfolds. SHOWNOTES 33:30 – The Moral and Ethical Responsibility of ‘Playing God’ 34:58 – Human Genome Editing, Embryo Selection, and the Coming Revolution in IVF 39:14 – The Personal Side: Ben’s Own IVF Journey and Making Hard Choices 44:41 – The Slippery Slope: Intelligence, Disease, and Future Human Potential 51:36 – International Competition: US vs. China in Biotech and Human Enhancement 58:46 – Accelerating Gene Editing: Multiplexing, Cloning, and Animal Selection 1:09:12 – Rewilding and Ecosystem Impact: Fact vs. Jurassic Park Fiction 1:22:42 – The Longevity Escape Velocity and Radical Life Extension 1:44:08 – Innovations for the Planet: Enzymes That Break Down Plastic & Ocean Engineering 1:49:40 – The Future of Synthetic Biology: Designed Environments, Health, and Next-Gen Conservation FOLLOW BEN LAMM Twitter/X: @federallamm LinkedIn: Ben Lamm CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS ButcherBox: Ready to level up your meals? Go to https://ButcherBox.com/impact to get $20 off your first box and FREE bacon for life with the Bilyeu Box! Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to https://www.vitalproteins.com and entering promo code IMPACT at check out Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impact Netsuite: Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning at https://NetSuite.com/THEORY iTrust Capital: Use code IMPACTGO when you sign up and fund your account to get a $100 bonus at https://www.itrustcapital.com/tombilyeu Mint Mobile: If you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at https://mintmobile.com/impact. DISCLAIMER: Upfront payment of $45 for 3-month 5 gigabyte plan required (equivalent to $15/mo.). New customer offer for first 3 months only, then full-price plan options available. Taxes & fees extra. See MINT MOBILE for details. What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business: join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER SCALING a business: see if you qualify here. Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox: sign up here. ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast, Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS: apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Welcome back to the second half of this eye-opening discussion with Ben Lamm, CEO of Colossal Biosciences. In Part 2, Tom and Ben dig even deeper, tackling the massive ethical questions and transformative possibilities that arise when humans hold the keys to edit and design life itself. Whether it’s confronting the future of embryo screening, germline editing, the potential for designer babies, or the international arms race in biotechnology—no topic is off limits. Ben shares insider stories on Colossal’s dire wolf project, explains misconceptions about cloning, and reveals the unexpected hurdles and breakthroughs in the world of synthetic biology. They discuss how these advances can directly impact human longevity, environmental crises like plastic pollution, and even set the stage for building the living cities and ocean habitats of tomorrow. This is a no-holds-barred, jam-packed episode for anyone intrigued by the future of engineering life—and the urgent questions we all must face as the bio-revolution unfolds. SHOWNOTES 33:30 – The Moral and Ethical Responsibility of ‘Playing God’ 34:58 – Human Genome Editing, Embryo Selection, and the Coming Revolution in IVF 39:14 – The Personal Side: Ben’s Own IVF Journey and Making Hard Choices 44:41 – The Slippery Slope: Intelligence, Disease, and Future Human Potential 51:36 – International Competition: US vs. China in Biotech and Human Enhancement 58:46 – Accelerating Gene Editing: Multiplexing, Cloning, and Animal Selection 1:09:12 – Rewilding and Ecosystem Impact: Fact vs. Jurassic Park Fiction 1:22:42 – The Longevity Escape Velocity and Radical Life Extension 1:44:08 – Innovations for the Planet: Enzymes That Break Down Plastic & Ocean Engineering 1:49:40 – The Future of Synthetic Biology: Designed Environments, Health, and Next-Gen Conservation FOLLOW BEN LAMM Twitter/X: @federallamm LinkedIn: Ben Lamm CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS ButcherBox: Ready to level up your meals? Go to https://ButcherBox.com/impact to get $20 off your first box and FREE bacon for life with the Bilyeu Box! Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to https://www.vitalproteins.com and entering promo code IMPACT at check out Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impact Netsuite: Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning at https://NetSuite.com/THEORY iTrust Capital: Use code IMPACTGO when you sign up and fund your account to get a $100 bonus at https://www.itrustcapital.com/tombilyeu Mint Mobile: If you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at https://mintmobile.com/impact. DISCLAIMER: Upfront payment of $45 for 3-month 5 gigabyte plan required (equivalent to $15/mo.). New customer offer for first 3 months only, then full-price plan options available. Taxes & fees extra. See MINT MOBILE for details. What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business: join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER SCALING a business: see if you qualify here. Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox: sign up here. ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast, Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS: apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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