EPISODE · Aug 26, 2025 · 42 MIN
“Playing with fire”
from Deadline: White House · host Maria Aspan, Barbara McQuade, Tyler Pager, Nick Corasaniti, Tim Miller, Nicolle Wallace
August 26th, 2025, 4pm: A ratcheting up pressure campaign on the Federal Reserve: Donald Trump says he’s removing Fed Governor Lisa Cook. Nicolle Wallace discusses the implications for democracy as Trump’s second term looks more and more like a descent into authoritarianism. Later, an update on Congress’s investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and more on the states wading into the redistricting fights. For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewhTo listen to this show and other MSNBC podcasts without ads, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts.To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Nicolle Wallace drills down on the democratic implications of Donald Trump’s removal of a Federal Reserve Governor and looks at the states now contemplating a redistricting fight of their own.
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