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Aug 26, 2025 42 min

“Playing with fire”

from Deadline: White House Hosted by Maria Aspan, Tyler Pager, Barbara McQuade, Nicolle Wallace, Tim Miller, Nick Corasaniti

August 26th, 2025, 4pm: A ratcheting up pressure campaign on the Federal Reserve: Donald Trump says he’s removing Fed Governor Lisa Cook. Nicolle Wallace discusses the implications for democracy as Trump’s second term looks more and more like a descent into authoritarianism. Later, an update on Congress’s investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and more on the states wading into the redistricting fights. For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewh To listen to this show and other MSNBC podcasts without ads, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts.

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Nicolle Wallace drills down on the democratic implications of Donald Trump’s removal of a Federal Reserve Governor and looks at the states now contemplating a redistricting fight of their own.

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