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EPISODE · Apr 8, 2026 · 50 MIN

PMP495: The Fierce-Hearted Leader with Leanne Nicol

from Principal Matters: The School Leader's Podcast with William D. Parker

A Quick Note to Listeners: Before this week’s interview, Will Parker and Jen Schwanke take some time to answer a listener question. This week’s question is: I am an AP, and I’ve been invited to apply for a principal position. What should I keep in mind as I step into a series of upcoming interviews? Listen in to hear their response! Meet Leanne Nichol: Leanne Nicol is a Sydney educator, experienced principal, and certified master coach who supports education leaders in culture, strategy, and wellbeing. She has led in Catholic primary schools and worked with Sydney Catholic Schools on review and improvement processes. As founder of Fierce Hearts, she helps leaders align purpose and practice to create flourishing school communities. She’s also the author of the upcoming book, The Fierce-Hearted Leader: Living, Learning and Leading from Love — a guide to leading from the inside out. The Fierce-Hearted Leader: Leanne describes being a fierce-hearted leader as someone who leads with both strength and tenderness. She expresses that she considers being a school principal as the best gig in the world; it brings joy to her soul. At the same time, it can be a really challenging role. Leanne shares how it breaks her heart to be people struggling at a human level. Being a fierce-hearted leader means remembering what brought you to the education space to begin with. This type of leader can deal with the challenges of their jobs while still finding joy in their work. Embodying the mindset of a fierce-hearted leader is hard, and requires you to really know who you are on a deep level. Leanne talks about how fierce-hearted leaders have to actively choose peace, serenity, and calmness throughout their day. Nurturing Culture and Human Flourishing: Today’s educational leaders often feel pulled into compliance and crisis management. Leanne talks about how leaders can balance accountability requirements with nurturing culture and human flourishing. She shares that leaders who do this best in the practice of gathering themselves and their work into their mission. Leanne challenges listeners to spend some time reflecting on their vision for their life and their passion. Leaders can balance accountability requirements with human flourishing by figuring out their passion and being loud and bold about it. Staying Connected: You can stay connected to Leanne Nichol via Linkedin. The post PMP495: The Fierce-Hearted Leader with Leanne Nicol appeared first on Principal Matters.

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