PMS 2.0 1382 - AQ Shipley, Jeff Passan, Texans GM Nick Caserio, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Beautiful people, and welcome to our home in the boat, the Thunder Gnome, on this football Tuesday, July 29th, 2025. This program begins now. Football! It's happening all around the NFL in training camps in 30 cities.

Well, I should have done that before I went for that one. You get it. Oh, I got it. You get it.

There are 32 teams that are at training camp right now and trying to build the best team that they possibly can to maybe make a run at the Lombardi. We were chit-chatting about this before we went live about how, you know, predicting how tough a schedule is going to be for any team at this particular point is a pretty outrageous thing to try and do. Who knows what injuries are going to come before the season? Who knows what team's going to turn it on?

I mean, did anybody think that the Washington Commanders were going to be good last year? Absolutely not. They almost went the whole damn thing. Now, obviously, the Philadelphia Eagles are as dominant as they were, and they're certainly maybe in the middle of starting a dynasty as they're combating against, obviously, another dynasty that's happening in Kansas City.

We know a few teams that are going to be great, but there's going to be teams that aren't going to be shite. There's going to be teams that have been habitual, shitty football teams that are going to end up being good this year and going to surprise the hell out of us. And all those things that are happening at all these camps right now are what lead to that potential success. So whenever we see a highlight, we should be excited.

Whenever we see these guys working their ass off, we should be pumped up. Whenever we see them getting a little bit of a scrum and getting excited about a little physicality, we should be jacked up. But we need to understand that there's so much growth from now until the actual season kicking off. There's so much development.

There's so much finding of a team that can happen in the next few weeks that can turn you from being maybe ass into maybe die-nass-dee. That's what training camp's all about. Now, obviously, before we get started, we've got to send our thoughts, prayers, positive vibes to everybody that was affected in the Midtown Manhattan shooting at 345 Park Avenue yesterday. An asshole, a piece of shit, traveled from Nevada all the way over there, walked through Midtown Manhattan with an AR-15, went into the Blackstone and NFL building at 345 Park Avenue, and four people end up dead with another one in critical, stable condition that worked for the NFL.

Absolutely horrendous act, absolutely terrible, and the fact that they are linking it from a note in his pocket to football being the cause of this is obviously devastating for us in the sporting world and sport community. We think football is a beautiful sport. We think it is the best sport on earth. Yesterday was obviously a cause in an asshole's mind to go do something terrible and horrific in New York.

We said nothing but positive thoughts to everybody that is going to be affected by that. We saw the Blackstone offices getting boarded up. Couldn't even imagine the mindset going back into that building, let alone just people at 345 Park Avenue, but everybody in New York, obviously you're around a lot of people when you're in that city, anything to pop off at any time, whatever, something like that takes place where a guy just walking through the city with an AR-15 perspective is pointing real quickly that, hey, we've got to be on our piece of cues up here. We've got to understand that although we're all hoping for a much better society and a perfect world, and I think the majority of humans all feel the same exact way on what earth and planet earth and the United States could be, there's always going to be people that are, without a lack of a better word, and I've said a lot, evil.

There's going to be evil people. Now, he said he thinks his brain has CTE, and he had mental health issues beforehand, and that was obviously being used as a reason for all this to happen. Can't happen, okay? Can't happen, and we hope it never does again, but the reality is it will, and we've got to make sure that we are continuing to provide society with a reason to be happy and peaceful as opposed to continue to move on, worrying about assholes doing asshole things.

With that being said, from football, I don't want to say I speak for football, but we hate the fact that we are being associated with this because all we're supposed to do is make lives better. That's what sports are supposed to do. We're supposed to unify people, not supposed to get people to drive across the country with a gun and go kill people they don't know, okay? That's how we feel.

I think that's how everybody from sports feels that I have talked to, and absolutely devastating. We will now be, hopefully, a little bit of a distraction from all the potential negative happening, or a little bit of a celebration of what the football world has going on that isn't that, like training camp and dreams taking place all over the world. You know, we talked to Peter Schrager yesterday, and he said that the NFL Network execs tell you that August is actually their most watched time, and obviously the NFL Network doesn't have playoff games and everything like that in January and December and February, obviously the Super Bowl, which is when everybody else's numbers are through the roof because they have the games and everything like that, but everybody watches the NFL Network in these training camps because every team has optimism. Every team has a highlight coming up.

Every team has a new player doing something that's like, wait a minute, that's the missing. That's the missing piece we needed right there. There's a chance that this could be the best year in the history of the NFL, and it's all starting right now. The talks table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.

Hey, there's some baseball stuff happening. Bryce Harper with his beautiful hair. Great. Handsome face.

Oh, yeah, dude. Incredible baseball resume. Yeah. Hey, hey, man.

Manfred came in. Hey, boys, how we doing? You sourcats. Hey, how you doing?

Bryce, are you? Get the fuck out of here. We don't want to hear you negotiating with us. We don't want to hear.

Because allegedly there was something about going around PA as well. How's that whole thing going to go? I heard some rumblings at the All-Star. Sure, sure, sure.

I was talking to some of the players about some of their peers and everything like that. Literally, right? I was also embedded in it. This feels like there's some big shit right around the corner here for baseball.

Like, very, very big. We're talking about baseball being in a surge. Hey, that's what we've been talking about. I think we all think baseball is doing a little something.

Yeah, big stars are showing up in the biggest moments, and that's when you get the casuals in. That's what any big-time sportsman. That's what the kind of running MLB has been on. A whole run derby up to 5-6% of what it was.

Baseball, good right now. Yeah. But then if you forecast the future in this moment, it's like, oh, no. Is this all for naught?

Are we about to take a massive step backwards, and they're not going to be able to get a new CBA? But is this other company implemented? People are going to get pissed. Are the players going to not only maybe get struck like a strike, but are they going to get held out, locked out of this entire thing?

I mean, it feels like there's some real shit going on. When does this all happen? And we're going to get passing on at 1245, 1240-ish. This feels real for baseball, yeah?

Yeah, I think so. I mean, it didn't really happen, but it kind of started with the COVID year, because they basically were saying, hey, if you're one of these players who's making a bunch of money, you're going to have to take 60% of your salary, because we're having less games. And all those guys are like, no, absolutely not. So obviously, you get guys who are signing $750 million, or a guy like Bryce Harper, a judge, they're making $400 million.

Like, if a salary cap is implemented, like, guess what? Those guys are going to be standing to make a lot less money, probably, you would think, because teams aren't going to be able to pay these exorbitant numbers for one player. And let's just say the stars of the game, when it's been played one way for forever, they're not all of a sudden going to be the ponies who just say, yeah, go ahead, you can cut my salary in half. That's fine.

That's fine. I mean, yeah, I mean, some of these guys stand to lose, like, a lot of, yeah, hundreds of millions of dollars, and they're just, they're not going to go quietly into the night. I laugh, because, like, that is the reality of the situation. Yeah.

That is a real deal. If a salary cap gets put in place, they'll start putting percentages on each player, and your best hitter gets this percentage of the salary cap, this pitcher gets this, just like football, though. Yeah. And that's going to obviously cap things.

I assume it would make a lot of ass teams more competitive, because if there was a cap, there would be a floor. They'll have to spend to the floor, right? So we'll talk to Pastor. We'll talk to Pastor and a little bit, see what he's got going on.

Anything else happening in baseball? Oh, yeah, there's still, you know, some gambling allegations. What? More negativity?

Yeah, same team, too. So it's kind of, we'll see what we go. I don't know what's going on in Cleveland, specifically in the bullpen in Cleveland, but they're saying a lot of these guys are very suspect right now, very suspect. What do you mean, what do you mean?

So like Emmanuel Classe, who two years ago, he was arguably the best closer in baseball, and he's just been bad this year. And then, so this comes out that says, like, we think he might be, we don't know yet, he's placed on administrative leave, there could be a gambling situation. So then some of the sleuths go out and look at some of his pitches. Yeah, there's this situation where he had, what, 22 pitches with an 0-0 count, with the bases empty, and this guy went through and was basically like, wow, a lot of these are uncompetitive.

How about a hon and rute out here going, could have made a lot of money if we knew what was happening here. Pretty obvious. Now, these are all allegations, obviously. And a ball can hold on to your finger a little bit longer, and he can throw it in the dirt.

We watch people go out there for the first pitch all the time, put it in the dirt. I try to do it, put it in the dirt a little bit. So we can see how that can happen. But man, whenever there's an allegation, which is what this is, just an allegation.

These are just allegations. I think there's been some that have been coming to fruition, people have been banned forever. But there is just an allegation here. All the sports where there's allegations on these players, not only are you guys being full of your cheats, now you've got people going through your entire career looking for your most ass player.

And they all really find them. I don't know if it's Brock, I don't know if it's Mr. GPT, or Mr. GPT, I don't know who it is.

But if somebody's getting an allegation against them that they're throwing games, people are automatically thinking that they're negative. So whenever these guys look worse than they've ever looked before, that is whenever they're giving away. That's a tell. And they find them.

And I'll tell you what, guys look like ass in every sport. Fans of the Guardians who are like, this guy was lights out last year, and he fucking sucks this year. So yeah, I can go find what's going on with this guy. He's also one of the biggest pieces to potentially get traded.

And so I have no idea. He's been placed on administrative leave, I think, until the end of August. Yeah, obviously, Eugenio Suarez, he's the other big piece who might get traded. He got hit in the hand last night.

X-rays were negative, so he doesn't have anything broken. That's scary. Oh, yeah. Have to show you, right?

Well, and the big thing with him was the Tigers, they're playing the Tigers, and they're saying, like, the Tigers are the team who need him. Like, they might, so, like, what a just, you know. Yeah, the universe working against you. We might want to trade for this guy.

Let's throw him in the hand and break his hand. Well, classic Tigers. One half of the hammer. Down.

Cowboys, AP tone. Hey, football camps all over the place. We're going to be in St. Vincent College tomorrow, live, at Pittsburgh Steelers training camp.

The guest list, from what I'm hearing, is pretty outrageous. Let's go. So, Pittsburgh Steelers, first of all, we're very thankful that I think a lot of people in that building and on that team watch the show. Yes.

Like, I think they are. They understand it. Obviously, we are from Pittsburgh, so we were talked about by, I think, their friends in the neighborhoods in which they live. Whether good or bad, whatever the case is.

We've kind of been forced into the Pittsburgh Steelers people's lives. I'm a former pump passing champion, national champion. I don't know how many Pittsburgh Steelers representatives won the national pump passing game. Legitimately, I might be the only one.

Whatever the case, they know us. I thought Billy Gardell won one. He did it after. No, no, he did it after.

Oh, that was Andy Reid. No, he did it after. Andy Reid did do that. He had a helmet on.

That was a different pump passing kick than I did. He did not have full pass. Old school. That pump passing kick contest was built for me, though.

Now that you guys have to know me a little bit. Yeah. That was a contest that was literally built for me. My mom forced me to do it.

She was like, hey, you know, this is what we're doing. Mom drove me to this thing. She, like, set it all up, did the whole thing, and immediately just beat the shit out of the little regional one, which was held at a tiny little school that was in Kensington, I think, which is next to Plum, down the road a little bit. That's where the Steelers ringer would go.

Yeah, the guy who won. I guess the guy won from, like, 8 to 9, 10 to 11, 12, 13. I was 14 at this time, I think. And the kid that won over here won to this one, because there's only four or five people competing, man.

So he knew the game. Then all of a sudden, I show up at that thing. This kid's not supposed to be here. Just part of the certificate.

But that pump passing kick thing was literally built for me. Like, that is all the skills that I have, basically, with the football. I can throw the shit out of the ball. I can kick the shit out of the ball, and I can pump the shit out of the ball.

And it just so happens to be that you can go to the Pittsburgh Steelers game if you're good at these three things. And me, Jason, Dan, Chancey, I'm sitting right on the fucking field in the Pittsburgh Steelers game. And then we got to go to a playoff game that the Pittsburgh Steelers are in. Just because they just so happen to be playing against the Tennessee Titans.

So it's a hell of a lot. Thank you, fucking awesome kid people for putting that together. Hey, if you've got a huge leg and a big arm, you can go watch the NFL. You can go watch the Steelers games.

You got it. We're going to do that. So the Steelers knows. I was reminded yesterday, biggest Steelers fan I know, a friend of mine, who sent me a video that's going around, I guess.

I forgot you shot a universe ball from him. When it's a football. Yeah, so Steelers go. What's the song with all the boys sing this song?

Yeah, Steelers go. Oh, by far. Just pissed off. It was so bad.

It was so bad. Don't talk to Waffles from time to time. No, no, no, no. No random.

Sometimes it goes to players. Sometimes it's with the Tennessee Steelers through and through. Steelers. Does she have a microphone to talk about it every single day?

No. At the end of the day, it's always a little bit. Anyways, we appreciate the Steelers. I think the Steelers understand who we are.

And they've offered up everybody basically in the building for the show. So I think guys are going to just walk by too. It's like heads up and heads up because practice is starting at like 2 o'clock. So they have a walkthrough, I think, that ends at noon.

And then they got practice at 2. So it's like, it should be a really good time. It should be a very cool day tomorrow for Pittsburgh Steelers fans, NFL fans, and for us. This is wild that we get a chance to experience this.

The last time I was at this was a little boy with my dad at a training camp. It's crazy. It doesn't surprise me that a lot of people are coming through. I talked to someone in the building who said the excitement for tomorrow starts at the very, very top.

And when that happens, it kind of resonates through the building. So that, you know, everyone, everyone is very excited for tomorrow. D-Buch and I sat about four down from the Rooney family at Mr. Erskine's funeral.

We have no idea how we ended up in those rows. We were in the NFL owner's rows. Yeah, literally. They're predicting the future.

Shout out to the Cardinals, by the way. Yeah, hell yeah. Shout out to the Cardinals. Owner of the Cardinals.

Bidwell. Great man. Michael. The pilot.

Yeah, he's a great man. He sat right here, right next to me at that funeral. And got a chance to chat with him. Who was to my, whatever, the Rooney's were a couple down.

Everybody was there basically. And they were all incredibly nice to us. And the Arizona Cardinals, that was so nice. And we have had to say things about the Arizona Cardinals in the past.

And everything numerous times. I think he's a boy, right? Yes. I think he kind of understands what it is.

The future of the Arizona Cardinals could be incredibly bright. The future of the Arizona Cardinals will have a voice on it. The future of the Arizona Cardinals, ladies and gentlemen, in the bird game, will be led by none other than moon, timeship grade, Western Pennsylvania, Interscholastic Athletic League, Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champion. The man who somehow accomplished the feat of playing NFL offensive line with an arm length less than 30 inches.

That doesn't mean anything else about any other parts of his body. Well, we have seen his gut. We can assume something. Host of In the Trenches, ladies and gentlemen, in AQ Show.

29 and 7 and 8. I just wouldn't give it to you, huh? What I lacked in arm length, I gained in other places. You see what I'm saying?

I gained in head size, stomach size, and other things, you know? Ass. Yeah, ass ass. Yeah, you got those weird shoes you wear, too.

Those big, fat shoes. You know, those hoka things. Yeah, size 8. Yeah, I forgot about that.

Move on. Move on from hokas. I'm on speed lane. Remember the elk blood?

Oh, yeah. Some elk blood. Yeah, they are worse shoes. Sir, the look at.

Whoever created that, you did a great job. AQ loves them. The most comfortable thing he's ever worn. Yeah, I thought you were wrong.

I thought he was buying all of them. Yeah, that's it. I'm happy eating. I'm happy my eyes don't bust you every day about Wednesdays.

That's all I'm happy about. Let's make an announcement. You've been announcing yesterday. You are color commentating for the Arizona Cardinals this season.

Congratulations. Yeah, thank you. What does this mean? What does this mean?

Have you always wanted to do color commentary? How experienced are you in this world? And how does this all come together? Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I've ever...

That's been a dream of mine, per se. But, I mean, what I do on your show is essentially that for offensive line across the league. And now it's just calling it live at games just for the Arizona Cardinals, which will be really cool. And it'll help me with the In the Trenches segment, obviously.

I'll get a first-hand look at the Arizona Cardinals boots on the ground at every game. You're going to have to look into the other teams. I get it, but I got to be a voice of the Arizona Cardinals. I got to kind of be a homer.

Oh, okay. Here we go. So we lost a little bias. We gained a little bias to make you.

You also will be doing Wednesdays In the Trenches, which we are excited about. So you're going to have a great football season this year. We're pumped for you. Congratulations.

Coming off a great offseason as well. Training guys. You know, he's been training guys. How many guys did you have this offseason?

A 13 NFL offensive lineman come up to the Phoenix area and get to work in the shipyard. It's been awesome. The shipyard. 13's a lot of dudes.

Yeah. Especially because he doesn't have a facility. I mean, he's got a gym in his backyard. He doesn't flush the toilet.

Right. It's a nice backyard. Yeah, very nice. It's a trampoline in the ground.

So cool. So cool. You probably don't hit bottom anymore. You probably used to really crash at it.

Great backyard. But you're training these guys. Now you're a color commentator. You're hosting In the Trenches.

You're literally on a trophy. The Trenches. Everything's doing great for you right here. Let's talk a little bit about football now.

Let's talk about what's going on around the league. Philadelphia Eagles still the best offensive line in football, so we should look for them to repeat. Or is there another group that we should maybe be talking about and maybe give a little bit more love to, thank you. No, I'm a big fan of Philadelphia Eagles.

I think they've got a great offensive line coming back. I think Tampa had a really good offensive line. I think losing worse for a couple weeks is going to hurt them. Early on, when you lose your stalwart left tackle, I think that hurts a little bit.

But, you know, you can look at the Buffalo Bills. They're going to have a really good group. You can look at the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think they're an up-and-coming.

Really? That's a big question. That's a huge question. I like their group, and I think continuity is a huge, huge, huge part of offensive line play, and when you get the same group of guys coming back, young guys to boot, probably spent the whole off-scene together.

I'm getting videos from you. your boys and pictures from your boys showing me mason mccormick and zach fraser riding everywhere together on the same golf cart so you know i feel real good about this group i like the group they got baltimore ravens got a great group they got four he's coming back from injury didn't really play a whole lot in the last couple years he was injured coming out of college he didn't get to start last year but i think he's going to provide some some depth to that baltimore ravens group so uh i think the chargers got a good group they paid their guy obviously rashaun slayer and joe all two best tackles in football so there's some good groups and then obviously there's going to be some other groups to kind of sneak into this who knows i mean maybe the denver broncos put together a nice group i like their group on paper so um i like i like washington i like tons so i hate the fact that they lost sam coffee you'll probably miss most of the year from the from the playoff acl but um they should have a decent group as well i mean it's going to be actually like arizona cardinals group i think they've got one of the top 10 groups in the yeah we know that we know that you think that with the arizona cardinals until you don't do what the queen said you do yesterday which we completely understand by the way you're gonna be on that plane you should be on a plane you should be flying on the the cardinals team plane that's what happens here after what he said you hear a lot of complimenting of the arizona cardinals if i had to guess i would not want to walk in football country's so smart oh my god geniuses yeah you walk on that plane last thing you want to do is like well all right i'm gonna sit right up here hey kyler kyler why does my credential not work anymore why is my credential not flashing green anymore except for you to be biased i bet you they are too they finally get somebody i can't wait till he's on the team plane he's watching film he's walking back coach hey you see hey you should run this we should run a little bit we run a little bit he's good this i think i think he is what he wants to do you gotta keep your mouth shut on that fucking plane you're not okay you're right let's not embarrass the program out there now you're right if they also sign a consultant to you that's an interesting dilemma i mean we draw up a couple blitzes we got ideas too yeah so maybe we're coaching all right let's not want to have a mock card here that's what this is not about uh you brought up uh slayer getting paid there's another guy about bernard bennett mhm you know that please think about bernard here uh right now i think there's a chance we have not looked this up he is the first offensive lineman in the history of the nfl i just thought of it who uh my lot does he want what the guardian cap yeah i thought he had one on yeah i thought he had the guardian cap or the um the already made different helmet whatever it's called two different very two different yeah i don't know what we're talking about that's what i said he's a trailblazer this is ground to break oh that's who it is that guy from pittsburgh who got signed that no one likes a hundred million dollars i didn't say no one all right let's get back to it did you know this guy i think i've seen him play i appreciate the fact that he most gigantic human being uh ballard loves him obviously all reports out of uh cold training camp andy richmond's playing football very well andy richmond's prepared which makes us well you got the same source we are believe ours this guy had a guardian cap on playing left tackle got paid a hundred million dollars i think that is something that you would never think about you know just in the entire offensive line space but this is great news for offensive linemen that raymond's getting a hundred million dollars right isn't this good it's great news for offensive linemen it should be a mandatory 10 discount if you uh if you're a guardian cap uh helmet guy but uh he doesn't wear it all the time i think he did it for his teammates okay that was nice of him but no i mean he's a good football player he came out a couple years ago and this is what you love to see right you heard howie roseman's interview you know about sign develop or whatever it was draft develop sign and i think that's a i think that's a key piece that a lot of teams if you want to get good that's what you have to do you have to take care of your own you look at the good teams that have done well they draft the guys they keep them they sign them it's not like hey we're gonna constantly try and redefine our team through free agency and when you reward a guy that maybe wasn't a first-round pick he gets drafted a little bit later he kind of works his ass off he climbs the ladder becomes a starter puts good stuff on tape he's good in the locker room and then you pay the shit out of him i mean this is exactly what you want to see and this is good by the colts isn't really this is a really good signing they got a good group to let some guys go in free agency but building through their own is a good step congrats bernard bernard bernard bernard that's how the boys were saying but nonetheless happy to pay them they must they must really love him and also partly kaylin casey this is probably the first one right yep first big deal that i said to kind of be like yep so they're investing in the offensive line i like that i appreciate that future looks nice especially with these highlights coming out of the yard if they are can take a hit this year which is possible if he you know can avoid and figure out how to run without getting like absolutely clobbered every single tackle yeah like there's a chance he's a guy yeah everything that we have thought he could potentially be we've seen on these highlights so they got a tackle paid obviously we lose ryan kelly we also lost uh fries fries in there so it's kind of a uh a mixed match group uh that new group hopefully they're they're off and won't be excited congrats to bernard now let's talk about an offensive line group that got exposed on the biggest stage go ahead d but yeah i saw i saw a close group it didn't look that mixed match when i saw it but good good good good strong yeah yeah good strong group powerful group but speaking of two hours it is a uh caucasian bunch certainly big big solid solid i like it but uh hey q's uh the chiefs i mean it was all white they came out of the woods oh yeah they came walking out of the woods like light walkers yeah i think george foster said i haven't seen this in a long time what do you call it um good one of the greatest followers on x george foster former offensive lineman in the nfl black man i haven't seen this in a long another guy you've been very very high on trey smith you know creed humphrey's in the center as well but uh the outside offensive line for the chiefs are they going to be okay that was their obviously a glaring weakness in the super bowl against the eagles are the chiefs online going to make that step be okay be able to protect 15 this year we've been saying the same narrative since 2020 when we played in the super bowl down at tampa bay and it's been the tackles it's been the bookends can we fix the tackle situation our interior three is as good as anybody right now creed humphrey trey smith obviously they let tuning walk but uh they're moving the left tackle they got benched last year in the first game they're moving inside give him a try i'm not even gonna try and pronounce his name um kingsley yeah there it is so yeah um but the key to this thing is this and i said this when we spoke after the draft i thought they got top 10 kids thanks kingsley yeah yeah yeah great things and maybe the best thing got out of sandwich sorry the kid they got out of ohio state i said this after the draft whenever you had me on the show i said he was a top 10 pick josh simmons left tackle the clips of him coming out is he is a top 10 pick if he doesn't get hurt in sporting last year they get him with literally one of the last picks of the first round and he is going to be their franchise left tackle for the next 10 to 12 years and they got an absolute steal with him the clips coming out of him here it is but he's just shutting guys down and he makes it look smooth he's throwing guys like yeah he got a little dog i mean he was arguably the best tackle in the draft before he gets hurt he gets to go late to kansas city in the first round they got an absolute steal it was an injury that a lot of teams were concerned with but i mean he's young he's coming back he looks fierce he's smooth as can be he's athletic he's strong he's got the size this could be a key piece for the kansas city chief modern technology modern science too with all these injuries being young and everything like that being a dog and we have that we have everything set up nowadays i think you see teams take those types of gambles a little bit more he's completely healthy beginning camp i don't know how much but you know yeah they're projecting that i assume at draft time he's going to be completely healthy by camp uh do you still know how to do it yeah deal you talk about him very loudly you're like hey the steal of the draft is this guy this guy this guy and of course fucking cheating and it's an offensive lineman as opposed to being like a 4-2 guy the steal of the draft is somehow an offensive lineman and who is it veach and reed yet again it's unbelievable how great teams continue to be great okay now speaking of uh tackles i don't think he will be doing this ever in his career but he's certainly becoming a trend go ahead tone yeah we talked about kingsley moving inside for the chiefs after he was drafted as a tackle out of byu evan neil of the giants is now moving into guard obviously mckay beckton did it last year for the eagles do you think there's a lot of teams copying what the eagles did because the eagles did it because satland did it and how many how much do you think guards are gonna be that every highly drafted tackle who doesn't work out is now gonna get a chance to guard over top of them well listen it's a last resort move and that's what happens when you start to um not play nearly as well as they think you're capable of obviously drafting you in the first round the initial move is hey let's just move him to guard it cracks me up whenever i was upstairs with every team it's always like hey well if he's not working out of guard we'll just move him into center if he's not working at tackle we're just moving the guard it's like it doesn't always work that way listen at the end of the day mckay beckton is a mammoth human being and it just happened to be that he walked in to the philadelphia he was one of the best offensive line coaches with one of the best schemes and a scheme that fits where you don't have to do very much except just run off the football right when you are in his own team and you can run off the football and get your get your body in the way people get your hands on people and you're six six six seven six eight and three hundred and forty pounds makes it look easy but if you're in a system where it requires hey you're going to be one-on-one back side quite often in this past team and now all of a sudden you could do an attack when now moving into guard it may not work out the same way as it did for beckton as it will for neil he's been criticized heavily since he's got in there this is a major great time like he's got to make it work right now at guard or it's a wrap for him with the new york guys if you get two six foot six guys six you know whatever tackle size used to be first what guard used to be first what center used to be if everybody's just going to be golias that can move like we got to see that jordan my lot guy he can kick us i mean he's so athletic it's just like it's outrageous like if he had to go into guard and be a pulling guard he could figure it out if he had to do it i assume there's going to be more athletic bigger men as we continue to evolve here if offensive lines are just going to become six six i mean there already has been i guess that was back in the day i think you know that right yeah the raiders used to do that the eagles did that last year i see lane and makai next to each other just like outrageous later bomb aside the ravens were massive and it works okay you win now can you find all the guys that can fit in together that's why i thought i thought i was so special because it's like they're all goats and they're all and they all just go on great and they all do whatever the hell stout tells them to do and they're all paid and they're all paid yeah it's a sick one and it's like that's a good run we can extend some careers around here we can move some bodies over here offensive line that's important position in all of sports offensive line also most hand-to-hand combat in every single play go ahead con man yeah you right now josh jimms you know you just mentioned him being a mean cuss he also threw a mean right hook that got caught on camera today during practice every year the training camp the pads come on and we get these sweet fights i can't wait for joint practice season as well but as an offensive line and how difficult is it not to fight every single play and then how do you know when you your coach wants you to fight to show a little fire yeah i don't think your coach ever is sitting there condoning fighting because i think as long as your coach played he understands how tiresome it is to get into a fight that's what people don't realize if you're in the middle of training camp like you know this pat you know this like you've seen every offensive line they're just trying to make it september like hey let's just let's just get to september and if we're sitting here and you know we got a 30 play call it period coming up and it's basically full tilt one first one scrimmage and the plate in the period before it's a blitz here and this defensive tackle keeps putting his hand in your throat and all of a sudden you swipe it down he throws a jab and now you're in a full tilt fight i mean you're seeing stars around your head for the next hour and you're sitting there cramping up and you're sitting there like i think i'm gonna retire i think i'm gonna retire right now um you know so so whenever that happens you hope the fight ends short so you can get back but man if it's a long one i mean there's been times where i mean my legs are dead i'm trying to call time out i'm trying to fake an injury to get out of this thing like it is the absolute worst thing because you get so tired your legs get heavy your arms get heavy you're already on jet lag because training camp that's what it is you get on jet lag four days in that's essentially what it is you're sleep deprived you're waking up for drug tests yeah you're going through two practices a day i know that you know one of them to walk through but still they're long days meetings drag you all the way till nine o'clock at night you can't sleep because you lost a rep in one-on-one and all night that's all you're sitting up at 2 a.m i'm waking up at 2 a.m trying to figure out an excuse on how i'm gonna tell my coach what happened during that one-on-one i look like an asshole so all these things are combining during training camp and then you get to a fight in day five or the second day training camp it's like oh it's gonna be a long day it's gonna be a long day i appreciate the fact that uh i didn't have to do any of that you know that was involved no scuffle i did i've been in um i've been in two training camp scuffles they come over to our area you know where we're standing we're sitting and it's just like a push push push push so that helmet goes on immediately and then it's hey you gotta be on defense that's okay and things on the offensive so we literally just faced each other hey we made a mock together we made quite a mock together situation but if you were to put on the film when it came over to us helmets went on and we were in the stump which you have to be that's a whole nother thing if you watch film and the offensive line is getting in a fight and there's three offensive linemen that are not in with the offensive line i think you can probably pick out who's probably not going to be part of that offensive line group i think early in training camp you can probably figure out these three not probably going to be with the group like there's so much more that's going on in those fights as well obviously you're very tired uh but the team is watching it too the scouts coaches the camera they keep the camera rolling they keep it rolling so yeah it's better be in that frame like i said some people are bullshitting just to be in there just to be but you better show up yeah have to show up well i learned that in west virginia because uh people wanted to fight our team every one of us it was just uh it felt like it made our team you know was a part of it as well dogs yeah we had dogs throwing through the whole team was dogs dogs i think if you were to look back at it um i have to show face that was my immediate first reaction i grew up in the football world but a little standoff happens i think it was our dbs and i think it was probably who knows on the other team and they're yelling and chirping and i'm within i'm 10 yards away i'm doing my shit though i'm currently warming up have to turn around have to show face have to yell then rich rod obviously does a fool hey don't be fucking scared to get in there now get out with the whole talk about it it's like okay i didn't know what the football world is but yeah you always have to have to my favorite my favorite my favorite thing is the online coach in meetings like afterwards right like he's obviously echoing the message from the head coach right so he's sitting there he's like all right boys we can't have fights i like that you got stuck out for your team i like this let's watch that clip back they're like breaking it down like good jack good over here my man's having for a helmet like i mean we are breaking this thing down like it's a ufc fight it's pretty awesome well the thing is the uppercut seemingly the right play because it's up under there but the pads yeah you can catch the pads that's not as easy the helmet grab always the play for the losing participant that's always who normally he's going first or it's first act of aggression right to the helmet here we have josh he's got into a fight here's mark palouse's video uh he's coming from his camera i think so it's hard to get you'll see it though there's josh what what what what and the guy grabs his helmet takes it off he's still in here where's the team i like it where's the team i like it i didn't like that i didn't like that i didn't like that either but my man stood in there he stood in the pocket like he'll get the for you yes he did he maxed all the way that thing he said we'll do it right here on your guys let's assume the offense is on a complete off the side of the field let's assume that he's on a complete off the side of the field and also let's understand that this is very normal and also he's got a great yeah that was fast he's worked on that i think he's been in a in a gym before because the placement too that would have been now with the helmet not the greatest move so he felt it that's a bad winner all right before we get out of here uh final question it's a good one let's take you back to college go ahead tie yeah q listen uh i know you are a penn state nitty lines room through okay i'm just curious we heard james franklin's comments he basically said hey listen if notre dame played in the conference and had to play blue bloods like purdue like we do then they you know they wouldn't have beat us in the orange bowl we would have went to the national championship with that yeah exactly um so with that being said do you think because a lot of people think penn state might be a national title you know contender this year maybe gonna go do you agree with that you think it's bullshit uh that penn state has these murders rather playing you know auburn and purdue and louisiana lafayette and west virginia and teams like that um or do you think that james franklin's maybe on an island a little bit here but overall how you feeling about the nitty lines going into this season i think notre dame schedule of yesteryear was dame schedule of yesteryear was and lot tougher. I mean, recently they're playing Duke, they're playing Stanford, Stanford isn't what it used to be. If they went to the ACC, that's who they would be playing.

They would. They need to come over to the Big Ten. Oh, so James wants him in the Big Ten. That's what he wants.

I think that's what it is. I think that's what it is. That's the way to recruit him. Great angle.

I love what James Franklin's doing. Let's come on in here. I'm sure he's not enough to play them every year. Yeah, absolutely not.

Can I give you my take on the Penn State landing lines? I think what happened at the end of that game against Notre Dame for Drew Aller was the best thing that could happen for Drew Aller. I think it's terrible for Penn Staters. Obviously terrible.

Terrible for Drew Aller. Horrendous that that is on his resume. But I think that is a perspective putter for Drew Aller. Nobody talked about him.

We talked about so many other quarterbacks. Drew Aller, 6'6". Drew Aller can throw the ball first. Drew Aller can run.

He's an Ohio guy. And then he had what? His worst thing of the season, basically, was his last play. It's like that.

I think motivation, perspective, chip on shoulder. I think Penn State still has all those things. And also, I think you guys still have more money than anybody else in the country. You guys just signed the number one hockey guy.

You guys signed the next City Crosby, allegedly, this fucking guy, to Penn State. The other sports are in the finals. Hockey made a deep run. Yeah, the wrestling, obviously.

The Penn State sports are about to become across. I think everybody just needs to be right. The Penn State sports is gearing up to take over everything with the way they're constructed with CEOs and donors and boosters. And they're not just collectives.

They're coming from actual people that have companies that are spending this money. So I don't think the commission is going to be able to cut them out of this whole thing. $700 million update to the stadium. $167 million in an offseason.

This is money. We'll take this as well. You've got any $10 million. We'll let you in a speakeasy in the back door.

$10 million. Jim Knowles. Jim Knowles from Ohio State. Penn State is all in on sports.

I love that. I like that a lot. I assume you do as well. Do you think the football team, because there's so many other schools that are all in as well, especially in the Big Ten, you think they're going to be able to do what they did last year, and you think they're going to be able to get even further?

It's going to get real loud if they don't. It's going to get real loud, because they have spent all the money in the world to keep that roster intact. They've got their quarterback coming back. They've been able to keep both running backs.

They go and push. They pay the defensive tackle. And all these guys were borderline pro guys, too. They could have gone into the draft as well, let alone gone to another school for more money.

So they've done everything. They've gone all in on this. They've gone all in with everything at the university. My man, Pat Craft is, let's spend it.

How much does it cost? Let's write the check for a dollar for more, whatever it is, right? So he's doing everything he can to win. He's doing everything he can to put this program at the top in the upper echelon of college football and stop Penn State from being mentioned in, okay, well, after the top four, after the top six.

Like, no, he wants to win this damn thing. And they got the group coming back. Obviously, we like the quarterback. You love that that play happened for Drew Aller.

I didn't love it. I also love it. I know you didn't love it. But I'm just saying, mindset.

Somebody got death threats at the end of a season, you know, at the end of a football season, my junior year. Like, all offseason was like, I've done nothing. I think I was all American already in two positions. I mean, it was just like, but that was just like, you are nothing in this entire world, especially with what people that are supposed to be on your side are saying you.

Like, you have got nothing for us because you missed that. Like, for him, I assume the shit has been loud at him. And I think that's good if he's a dog. Like, I think that's a good thing if he's a dog.

CJ Scott talked about it a lot of times. About how he had a terrible time. He got murdered. And it was like, that actually, like, created him.

I think that, like, kind of calloused him a little bit for what life is. Nobody wants that road. Everybody wants to win a national championship. Everybody wants to be perfect.

But sometimes, like, the worst thing can come at a time that can really make you your best you, if that makes sense. Yeah, I agree. And I've known you for the better part of almost 20 years now at this point. I know you have that mentality.

I think I have that mentality. Like, whenever your back's against the wall, like, that's when your best comes out. That's me, too. Not everybody's built that way.

So I'm curious to see how he responds, if it grew as that guy, right? Like, this is a big moment for him. Because every scout in America has your same sentiment, right? Every GM has your same sentiment.

So can he be that guy? Will he be that dog whenever now your back's against the wall? Whenever it's a two-minute drill and the game's on the line and you're down and you need a score and you need a play, this year, can you make that play? Because the guys at the next level, the guys that everyone's talking about, Mahomes, CJ Trout, right?

Like, all these guys with that mentality, they make that play at the next level on the biggest stage, on the biggest moment, in front of millions and millions of fans. Hopefully you guys are able to do it this year for Penn State. I'd be happy for you, man. And I also hope that Pat Craft gets rewarded, the athletic director up there, for all the fundraising.

That's what athletic director's jobs are now. Your fundraising. Obviously, vision and everything, but your fundraising. 164.9 million, I believe, is what was reported.

164.9 million from 20,000 donors, okay? 20,000 different donors. They have the most CEOs out of any school in the country. So they've just got thousands of CEOs that are getting paid so much money.

It's like, yeah, James Franklin, gotta win. Yeah, because Pat Craft in that team, he's doing his job. Does he have to win? Yeah, I think so.

Thank you. I mean, he's never won before, so I guess it's like, you know. What's his record against top five teams or whatever that's like? This man is color comment.

I like James Franklin. He was good. He didn't know what was on his burger. That's because it was a turkey burger.

He's not like meat. I don't like turkey burgers. Yeah, why's he got turkey burgers? Because I think he's good for a community.

I think you know, because there's a farm right there. Sure, lovely source. Yeah, farm tables. Did he make that fan of speed bump, though, after he yelled at him?

I mean, he wasn't a fighter fan. He's a fire. He's a fire. He's a fire.

That's James Franklin football. That's true. He's just talking shit the other day. But now he has all of everything that everybody else has had that he's been competing against.

I think that's what he would say. And now let's see what he does. All right, we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

Join us now, ladies and gentlemen, as a man who has covered a sport for us over the last few years and has kept his interest in the sport that we should have been loving all along. Obviously, the MLB. I'm sorry, I saw that baseball being a man that I said, the MLB. Did I just say MLB?

MLB. Obviously, MLB. Yeah, I'm never going to do that. It's Major League Baseball.

You wouldn't say the Major League Baseball. I get it, but it's like the league. Yeah, but that makes sense. The National Football Association.

The National Basketball Association. The Major League Baseball. It does. I'm going to say the MLB.

A lot of people do that. You don't have to. I know. I get it.

I get it. There's a man who's giving an answer. And then the one comment, the base comment said, he's talking to a guy who said the MLB. Now this should count.

He's like, God dang. Ladies and gentlemen, why didn't you tell me? Jet Pass. Why didn't you tell me, Jet?

In green screen, it works. In green screen. Jesus. Dude, dude, I have wanted to say to you for so long it's not the MLB.

I know. I'm sure you have. Right back there. I got murdered.

I got absolute murder. Just trying to kill the baseball. You know, listen, I appreciate the fact that you acknowledged it too, because you're right. If we're talking syntactically here, the Major League Baseball, it just doesn't work.

But listen, as long as you care, I don't care if you call it MLB, the MLB, just baseball, whatever you want to call it. As long as you like baseball, that is what matters. Okay. I am turning into a baseball lover.

So I think that's a good thing. Now I will say football highlights all over the place. I'm a dog running. And all of a sudden there's a barb to hear.

Hey, baseball, baseball, baseball. So baseball football right now kind of colliding, and I think it will continue for the rest of baseball season. But let's talk about the baseball future, shall we? Because I do care about baseball.

I'm getting into baseball. And is it a bad time to get into the baseball? Hey, this Bryce Harper stuff with Rob Manfred, interesting. Then the conversations that I was having with people whenever we were lucky enough to be at the Home Run Derby, both players and other folks, it's like, hey, this CBA thing's a real problem.

What is it? And baseball can't shoot itself in the foot right now. It feels like everything's going in a great direction. Do you agree?

I would like to believe that that's the case, Pat, because the collective bargaining agreement doesn't expire until December 1st, 2026. So we got like another full year plus before it even becomes an issue and a lockout potentially is in play. But where it's at right now isn't great. And I think the confrontation between Bryce Harper and Rob Manfred really illustrates the two parties that we have going on here.

On one side, you've got owners, and the owners, both publicly but particularly privately, have been talking about implementing a salary cap. There's a salary cap in the NFL, in the NBA, in the NHL. Why does Major League Baseball not have one? And the players, on the other hand, are like, you know what?

And Bryce Harper, I think, believes this too. Generations of players before the ones who are playing right now fought specifically to avoid getting a salary cap so you could have as free of a market as possible. And so the people who play this sport can be paid what they deserve. And that there's no limitations on it.

There's no constrictions on salary, on length, on anything like that. If a guy is phenomenal and he's out there in free agency, he can get 15 years in $765 million like Juan Soto did. And so you have these two sides that have completely conflicting opinions. And beyond that, Pat, you have a history here.

It's been since the 1970s that owners have been pushing for a salary cap in MLB. They lost the World Series in 1994 because players went on strike to avoid having a salary cap. So there's a deep history here, and you're seeing a lot of the same arguments, you're seeing a lot of the same points, but I would like to believe that at the end of the day, everybody involved understands, I mean, everybody involved needs to understand that you cannot lose a season. You absolutely cannot lose a season because baseball isn't a good place right now.

Baseball has people like you who they're bringing in and who are actually watching the game and seeing it and being like, hey, like, turns out baseball's good. They've got a long way to go and a large gap to bridge before they get to the point where I think the sides are going to agree on something, and I just hope the 2027 season is not the casualty to get there. All right, a couple years from now, let's assume that leverage is being flexed by both sides right now and that a good negotiation will take place and collective bargaining will happen and we'll continue to have greats playing great baseball, which is great for baseball right now. But I will say, Bryce Harper walking right up to the commissioner's face and saying, get the fuck out of here.

Dog. Absolutely. The boys, and I know there's some Spanish speakers that don't understand a lot of English, so maybe somebody had to translate to them what was happening there after I learned at the home. Oh, no, nobody needed to translate what was happening.

When Bryce Harper's holding a bat and walks up to the commissioner and says, if you want to talk about a salary cap, you can, exactly what you said right there. Yeah, it's, and here's the thing, Manfred went right back at him. Like, Rob Manfred dropped an F-bomb at him, too. This is my fucking club.

You shut the fuck up. How about this? Give me a bat. Give me a bat.

How about that? Nobody gives him a bat. I need a bat. Oh, man.

What about that baseball, baby? You know what that is, though? This is the first shot in the war. He takes all their bats.

You don't get a bat. He takes all of them. He can't blame you. You know what, that looks like.

That's not regulation. This is mine. This is mine. This is mine.

Hey, let's send him all the big-seemed baseballs to this team. Hey, where are you? We only got three minutes. We only got three minutes to heart out.

There's other things happening in baseball that are also, sorry, baseball, not great for baseball. Yeah, Jet, what is going on with the Emanuel Klaas' situation? Obviously, he's, like, one of the big targets this year around the trade deadline, but now there's the gambling investigation. He's been placed on leave.

So what's going on there? Is this an issue? Because all these guys are from the Guardians. And also, not just him.

Eugenio Suarez got hit in the hand the other day. A lot of people were nervous he might have broken it. How does that impact his trade value? And what's going to happen?

Just quickly, what's going on with those two guys? Two minutes, Jet. Oh, I can do this easy. No broken finger for Eugenio Suarez.

When you have hand issues, it can really sap your power, but I don't think teams are concerned at this point because there is no break there. He's going to be fine. He's going to get a haul. The Diamondbacks are going to be great.

In terms of Emanuel Klaas' A, things are not quite as great because when you see multiple teams, or multiple players from the same team, you worry, like, oh, God, could this be another situation like the Black Sox where everybody is involved in something? Now, it was interesting to see. The Guardians put out a statement yesterday saying that it is expected that these will be the only two players who are involved in it. Major League Baseball continues to do its investigation right now, and the Guardians are not going to say that if MLB doesn't give them any sense that, you know, they haven't found anything yet.

And yet, we also know that these sorts of things tend to have different layers to them. So I'm not going to sit here and say the Guardians are in the clear at this point. I hope, I hope as a baseball fan, and for the sake of Major League Baseball, that that is the case. But Pat, like, let's be honest about this.

When you have micro bets that exist, when you can bet on something, like, is this going to be a ball, or is this going to be a strike? You are running the risk of having a 1,200-player population that is not all going to be immune to chasing the money, regardless of how much they make. And so Major League Baseball, you know, however much it works with betting integrity firms, absolutely needs to be pushing for the elimination of those sorts of bets. Okay, and are they going to check into umpires at all?

Did you see this? I saw this notify. Hey, no, ball. Excuse me?

What? Not right. Excuse me? You just talked about micro betting and everything like that.

It's like, I don't want to say, hey, that's obnoxious, but that is right. That's somebody that doesn't really... Oh, yeah, without that. I guess he probably apologized not too long after that.

Sometimes, guys, this stuff... That is what the ABS challenge system is going to be for. That's why robot umpires are necessary, period. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you.

Obviously, gambling, 182 games, how many pitches, what you do in baseball. It is right for the picking. Hopefully, it doesn't continue to be a thing. Yeah, can Class A still be traded or no?

Like, does this affect that? I don't think anyone's going to be trading for him. I figured, but... How many games?

How many games? 162 in a season. I gave an extra 20. I wish.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, Jack Pastor. Thank you, buddy. I'm like a condescending big baseball fan. Take your part, bro.

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You know, whenever you wake up and think to yourself, I'm just a few weeks away from a Saturday morning to 6 a.m. I'm awake, a little coffee, a little scroll through the internet, walk onto a stage, a few thousand students behind us, and kicking off a full slate of college football. What is that full slate of college football? Oh, Ohio State and Texas is the first.

We're just a few weeks away, and that's what we're doing. No, no, no, the whole day. All the way until the 10 o'clocker. Boom!

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Chargers-Lions will be, I don't know if we'll be at the game. It's supposed to rain. So we were done to win the red. We'll be at camp.

We'll be at camp. Now, if this is a storm all afternoon, there's a chance we might not make it to the game. Plan is, as of this moment, tomorrow, St. Vincent College, University.

Thursday, camp. Pro Football Hall of Fame. Right off the highway there, easy to get to. Easy to get to.

Right off the highway there, you can kind of see it. You can certainly hear it. Turn the game down now. Turn the game down now.

We found out this morning that we will be right next to a highway, which, classic, little America. That's how it works. You got to get from one place to another here. That's how it goes.

So we'll be next to the Island. But we obviously want to give everything that we possibly can to the wonderful folks at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We'll get a chance to chit-chat with the entire class this year in the first hour they'll be stopping by. I cannot wait to learn more about their story.

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about that mentioned Schreger the other day and Schreger was like right as I was looking at him as I was saying he feel like he knew more than we did about the whole situation because all we do is see a tweet from some rack that's like hey there's a chance that ESPN's going to buy NFL network or whatever ESPN is that happening does anybody know if that's happening no idea it's like a live golf BGA situation so because our show is licensed through ESPN and technically in ESPN world we should get free subscription right to NFL plus premium without a doubt we should be working for that and we should also get some we can give out yeah especially if we should be able to hand these out to people to watch are you guys getting free subscriptions like Disney plus ESPN plus that's another good point no no no worth it though Moana Moana too McKenzie Love being the Lions guy yeah all of it over there I'm watching these Disney movies for the first time dude not bad what's your favorite so far Moana's really fun to be honest just strictly because Big Goose is in there I think you really like Luca I watched it last night Luca sucks Luca very thin right now Luca very very thin right now yeah he was on the Yankees broadcast last night how was he he was pretty good actually I was expecting him to not say anything he stayed for like two innings and was kind of just having a good time it was pretty sweet I'm taking a picture with Aaron Judge crazy how tall they both are that picture just makes them both look like they're like 5'11 that is not the case that was at high altitude he had sunglasses on super tripped oh yeah like incredibly slim looks like he's lost 100 pounds and I saw LeBron work he looks unbelievable he looks like this I mean he's 6'6 or whatever he's unbelievably tall I'll tell you Aaron Judge Aaron Judge is 6'8 so I think Luca's a little bit shorter yeah Luca's like 6'6, 6'7 yeah he looks unbelievable is he still gonna be able to do his shit yes that'll be great I don't know why I was always worried if I lost my fat that I wouldn't be able to hit the ball this far there's a chance that Luca wonders if he can still do his I think we move too fast yes his thing is molasses he's still on his second step and you're gone he might have too much quick twitch Luca might be too in shape is anybody else saying that I can't wait for them to kill for that oh fast no loss way too much now he's getting body around I can't wait for the fourth day Luca you look great speaking of looking great ladies and gentlemen joining us now AJ I just want to let you know four people independently texted me last night different parts of country all of them said the same thing different phrasing different eras these people all came from different ones so the way they said things was certainly different they said that it is very much a yarmulke on top of your head that's basically what everybody has said four different parts of the country and you can add in my wife she didn't text me is AJ wearing one of those Jewish yarmulke she goes he wears one of those it looks like he's wearing a yarmulke and I said I showed the text this guy's in California train camp this guy's on the East Coast train camp this guy's in Florida and this guy's in Arizona now he's in California so everybody's saying I just want to let you know I don't know if it's the lighting I think it might be and also um shalom shalom okay yeah I mean it's not a yarmulke I do understand I'm trying to grow the sides out and that's uh it's going to be weird for a long time I was just imagining I don't have any plans but I'm trying to grow the sides out who knows like that's the thing tell those people I appreciate them consuming the product thank you very much for watching anything start with a little attention I like that keep doing the yarmulke haircut keep doing it there's no plans in sight so yeah we're sticking with whatever we're doing it's not the people pleasant we saw it yesterday we grew up with like 50 people that all had this ready great flow you want a little axle that he can still let the hair flow is that what we're doing I don't think that's in the plan but like I said there is no plan so who knows I never say no so for now we do the yarmulke until we get this this is what we're looking for not that long there either the thing that I love about it is you clearly never got it like layered never got it like trimmed I turn to myself sometimes too I didn't have any professional help that's for sure it's just one length of shit just all sitting there like a waterfall I learned after I got my hair the same thing my hair was just old the same length like you needed to cut like we're trying to tell you they can cut this to make it not look like it is just a you know so maybe you do that yeah yeah maybe JC was here huh JC I almost sat down and then I was like you know I don't feel it in my bones today you know to get rid of the hair just yet you gotta feel it AJ wherever you go with your hair know that we will support you joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man that we have supported since the beginning back whenever he was wearing a headset in the booth that's right remember you go all the way back when he's a scout for New England you support the shit out amen hey they got this Italian got a huge brain all these do your job documentaries you got this fucking Paisan walking this guy's a guy he supported me all true all true did DB's workout and back in the day I had a horrible haircut I know you guys were talking about haircuts but I had a horrible haircut so I kind of cleaned it up a little bit it was kind of long kind of puffy so I try to get it cut once a week so I can't stand I just showed AJ's picture I've never had hair like that so it wasn't quite that long you went to Super Bowl why don't you go ahead and do that why don't you go ahead and let that thing just kind of flow there all the most important photos of your life just terrible long disgusting hair I think you should sign off for that no I cut my hair once I was going bald I cut my own hair so actually one summer I was cutting my hair the attachment fell off he's been a great businessman seemingly since you jumped there in Houston feels like you had a massive offseason let go of a couple studs brought in some new folks traded out of the first round feels like you've been very active but nobody's been talking about it how do you feel about your offseason and how do you feel about being completely under the radar yet again like it was a couple years ago almost yeah no I appreciate you saying that we feel like we've made some progress in the offseason I think when you look at the entire ASC South but frankly they've all improved Jacksonville's improved Tennessee's improved Indianapolis has improved they just extended Raymond there yesterday or whatever it was so I mean I think the offseason the one thing that's consistent and one thing that is constant has changed so we understand there's going to be turnover with our roster each year so what we try to do is just kind of take inventory where we are try to make good smart decisions bring people in that we feel fit our program on a lot of different levels both personally and on the field as well and this is what training camp is about to try to sort through what we have on the roster create some competition try to create as much depth as possible to at least give ourselves an opportunity each week to be competitive with the rest of the teams not only in ASC South but in the rest of the ASC as well Let's talk about CJ Stroud a little bit obviously his rookie season is record breaking and then injuries everywhere I think around the team you guys are obviously not making any excuses but sophomore season not as great or prolific you guys obviously the magical rookie season what do you expect from him what did you see from him in the offseason if I recall everything CJ Stroud has ever done he's like perfect for being the starting quarterback for an NFL team has that continued this offseason or what have you seen from early in camp yeah no he's had a good offseason I think he's had a good I'd say spring of work he's very committed kind of started his offseason February, March he was around here and then he did some throwing sessions over the summer I think the big thing that we're trying to focus on as a team is just consistency when you look back at last season you know it started well 5-1 and then we were just kind of up and down and you know offensively it probably might cause him for the rest of the team so I think the big thing is just trying to make improvement trying to work on one or two things that you feel are going to make you a better football player CJ's worked really hard he's gained a lot of strength he's gained a lot of lower body strength and I think the big thing with the transition offensively is just trying to get an understanding of what we're trying to do on a day-to-day basis so that's where we are and he's embraced that so we've had some change but I think we're just trying to we're collectively trying to get to a point where he's comfortable so we're ready to go that first Sunday against the Rams I think you're always going to be ready down there especially with D'Amico's head coach your defense just punishes people seemingly every preseason this is just what we see as a defense flying around CJ Stroud being a guy the moves you're made on offense how your defense is seemingly always going to be Houston Texans way too good go ahead AJ need to be worse around here go ahead AJ yeah Nick speaking about CJ I know you guys brought in CJ Gardner-Johnson obviously in the back end there for your defense can you talk a little bit about what he brings to the defense we know like the competitive atmosphere that's always around this dude and how he competes and goes after the ball what does he mean to that defense and what's he going to bring really to that team no you articulated it very well AJ I mean you've seen that in the spring work and then here in training camp CJ's a very instinctive very aware football player like you don't have that much production on the ball without having a good understanding of not only your scheme but what the offense is trying to do as well the ball seems to find him but that means you put yourself in a position to make plays so he's had good attitude he's had good energy honestly he's kind of blended with the rest of the group you know we feel that's a pretty decent group back there in the secondary got a number of good young players and CJ brings a certain level of experience to that group so excited to work with him but he's had a good attitude he's an excitable guy he's a fun guy to be around he loves football he loves to compete and you see that on the field on a day-to-day basis yeah and he'll get four or five people this year throw a punch 15 yards and make this thing second and 25 which hey if he's on your team which I think your team loves those types of players that's a good culture I think he fits perfectly with you guys you know you talked about your back end as a whole not just CJ DJ one of your guys actually made it into Darius Butler's sophomore superstar everything DB's sophomore superstars group here is a loaded class you know top 100 across the board go ahead people absolutely AJ just asked you about bringing in CJ DJ but you got some studs already Petrie Stingley who I think is one of the top two corners in the league and some other weapons how have they gilled as a group so far early in this game they're very very salty and they really don't say a lot they just kind of show up and work Petrie's that way Lasseter is that way for sure I don't think Stingley has said you know 15 words in here as a rookie but they kind of let their play do the talking which you like to see Bullock is kind of the same way and Bullock's got a little bit of personality but they're all kind of younger players and when you add CD to that mix you know it's just kind of an interesting group that we kind of piece together you know Jimmy Ward is still on the team on the roster has a lot of experience he's hurt right now I know he's dealing in the situation personally as well but it's a pretty good blend of some younger players that we feel continue to ascend and then some experienced players so ultimately the big thing defensively is just trying to take the ball away trying to prevent big plays and then just getting the ball with reckless abandon because that's what D'Amico creates to the defense and we have a lot of guys that fit that profile yeah it feels like you should get good in the back end because I don't know if you're seeing the clips coming out of Indianapolis I don't know if you're seeing them Nick Nick's not a believer he's the guy he's become the guy it appears that we all thought he could potentially be do you watch what's happening in other training camps like I do like we're watching these highlights just like Dylan like we are it's a problem I don't think it's a healthy thing we're seeing how look out for that down there down there in Houston you need to watch out for that but do you watch what's going on in other camps right now because obviously there's going to be a lot of turnover how do you balance that during training camp for sure you're kind of looking at everything we don't necessarily get to see what's going on in training camp like I said I talked about earlier the whole AFC South has improved so I think what we have to do is kind of focus on our team our improvement try to get a good foundation in place and get ourselves ready to go for those opponents when it's appropriate but have a lot of respect for the teams in our division not surprising Anthony's playing well Anthony's a very talented player but we have I would say we're reading what's going on so you can kind of have a lay of the land of maybe what players are doing well what players are standing out what players potentially could be available but as far as videoing that we might not really see anything until the preseason game starts and you can see it a little more on a personnel basis not so much schematically but like I said we have to focus on our improvement because we understand the challenge that are in front of us in our division and like I said earlier every team has gotten better so this league is about showing up each week being consistent and having respect for your opponent that's the way we approach it and try to focus on the Texans and just being the best version of ourselves on a week to week basis I'll start texting you we know they have good players we're certainly aware there's no question thank you so you a lot of them you've changed over a very important position we obviously have AQ Shipley on our show every single week he's now the color commentator for the Arizona Cardinals I don't know if you guys play him I'm sure he'll have great things to say about you he is really pointing out the fact that the teams that win are the teams that have great offensive lines we've tried to showcase that because we think offensive line is the most important position you guys have done a lot go ahead Tom yeah Nick whether it was fair or not last year the offensive line you guys had last year took a lot of heat and there was a big overhaul of the offensive line coming into this season how do you feel about your new offensive line and then how hard was it to to trade Laramie Thompson who's kind of been the cornerstone of that offensive line for so many years yeah great question on a lot of different levels I would say relative to Laramie Laramie's a really good football player did a lot for this organization for a number of years anytime you make difficult decisions like that it's never easy you try to have conversations in the end do what you feel makes the most sense for your football team you know any decision that you make you understand that there's probably a lot that comes along with it but relative to our group had a lot of players with varying levels of experience a number of veteran players like Cam Robinson and Lakin Tomlinson combined with a number of younger players who drafted the nursery in the second round so you need all five guys move in the right direction communicate in the right way making sure that you get the blockers disseminated appropriately so it's going to take a lot of work we have a new offensive line coach as well so everybody's kind of starting from ground level but we're going to be as good as a team as our fronts are so on the offensive and defensive lines when you look across the league ultimately that's where games are won and lost in addition to take care of the football and being sound situationally so we'll try to focus on that we'll try to put the best five out there and give ourselves the best chance to win obviously they have to have the ability but any five could become the five you know like it's crazy how offensive lines can kind of piece together don't you agree? no there's no question I've been a part of a lot of different shapes and sizes and I would just say like looking at AQ I mean the guy had an unbelievable career 12 year career and the reason that he lasted in this league as long as he did because he was smart as hell and he was tough as hell and he had enough physical ability to go along with it and he was able to maximize it and when you look at offensive line play it's really just about mitigating the disaster play and just making sure that your sound just so that the defensive front doesn't have a direct line of the quarterback on the inside part of the pocket or a straight line off the edge where you don't get a hand on him he had 29 and 7 8 inch arms is he the only guy that you've heard of in offensive line under 30 inches that's made it Super Bowl champion?

I'm sure if you ask all the analytic gurus he probably shouldn't even make it for a training camp he was told that the guy won the Remington and then he drafted it after me exactly and he lasts 12 years I mean I would say another play we had Shaq Mason Adam here in Houston last year Adam in New England as well he was 6'1, 305 pounds and that guy started a guard for 10 years so I think sometimes these measurables are a little bit overrated but you can't put a lot of stuff sometimes a guy's toughness his competitiveness it's just overall work on a day-to-day basis I mean it carries a lot of weight you see it across the league not only our team but other teams as well no I think finding out who's a dog it is it's an easy job that's why it's so simple to put together a good team it's so easy He's figuring it out. Dealing with humans. Yeah, 53 of them. Hoping they'll all show up and get along.