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PMS 2.0 835 - Kirk Herbstreit, Everything DB With Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

from The Pat McAfee Show · host Pat McAfee, ESPN

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the fallout from Aaron Rodgers’ comments yesterday on the show, if they think he’ll be back with the Packers next year, what it means for the Packers moving forward, and they dive into the Divisional Round of the playoffs and some of the matchups. Joining the progrum to chat about the NFL playoffs as a whole and his first season on the call in the booth for Thursday Night Football on Prime is the face and voice of College Football, color commentator for Thursday Night Football, and friend of the show, Kirk Herbstreit (19:28-53:08). Later, 9 year NFL veteran at defensive back, Darius Butler joins the show for Everything DB where he breaks down the best and worst DB plays from Super Wildcard Weekend (2:00:14-2:32:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the fallout from Aaron Rodgers’ comments yesterday on the show, if they think he’ll be back with the Packers next year, what it means for the Packers moving forward, and they dive into the Divisional Round of the playoffs and some of the matchups. Joining the progrum to chat about the NFL playoffs as a whole and his first season on the call in the booth for Thursday Night Football on Prime is the face and voice of College Football, color commentator for Thursday Night Football, and friend of the show, Kirk Herbstreit (19:28-53:08). Later, 9 year NFL veteran at defensive back, Darius Butler joins the show for Everything DB where he breaks down the best and worst DB plays from Super Wildcard Weekend (2:00:14-2:32:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our Humble to Boat, the Vandal Thunderdome. On this winter Wednesday, January 18th, 2020, the show starts, and now... Football!

It's got four weekends left. Football is the sport that we love, the sport that we dedicate a large portion of our lives to, the sport that has really kept this entire business going through these last five years. We have four more weekends to enjoy the hell out of the greatest athletes on Earth, playing the greatest sport on Earth, with the greatest trophy in sports. Four weekends left before we see who will be crowned the next Super Bowl champion.

Will the Cincinnati Bengals be able to get back to the Super Bowl in this time, win in triumph, and not have the best moment be when The Rock was cutting a promo before the game even kicked off? How about the Buffalo Bills? One year removed from an overtime situation that almost changed the entire game forever, because Josh Allen wasn't able to get back on the field and answer Patrick Mahomes. Let's see if he can win another Super Bowl.

They're being chatted about as a dynasty because of how good they have been. They've already won one. Will they be able to win another, and another, and cement three or four in a seven-year period? It could happen this year.

The road to a dynasty could take place with the Kansas City Chiefs. And how about the Jacksonville Jaguars? Wow. On the AFC side, going into the year with the first pick overall, not for the first year in a row.

No, no, two years in a row with the first pick overall. Now, they're sitting in the divisional round, staring down Patrick Mahomes and a boy. Could Doug Peterson cement his legacy as one of the greatest coaches of all time? And have the Jags make it all the way to the Super Bowl to face a team out of the NFC that could be one of four?

Could it be the New York football Giants? Wow. Who have been in disarray and upside down since the Eli days when they were making magical plays against the New England Patriots? Remember, the owner of the Giants was on the record stating that he was sick of hanging out with his billionaire friends, explaining why his team fucking stunk.

He invested multiple times. They finally found something with Dayball and Wink. And Kafka, who's the offense coordinator, has found something with Danny Dimes and Saquon Barkley, who have earned themselves millions and millions of dollars going into their free agency period for the first time. How about the Dallas Cowboys?

Also members of the NFC East. We're talking about a team that's been hyped to be in this position for the last 20 years, but hasn't. There was videos and pictures of Michael Irvin and Troy Aikin celebrating because that was the last time they had accomplished what they had just accomplished in Tampa Bay a few days ago. Can Dak Prescott, who was just a couple weeks ago being talked about as being a bust and maybe being replaced by a guy named Cooper fucking Cush, can he lead his team to the Super Bowl?

They got a tough road, don't they? San Francisco 49ers, who have every single position that has a player that's at the top of the fucking game. Christian McCaffrey gets traded to that squad midway through the season. They get better.

He becomes their prominent role on the offensive side of the ball. Didn't make the Pro Bowl. That's because he has a team around him that is fantastic. George Kittle, Kittle, Debo, IU.

You know, the defensive side of the ball. You got Nick Bosa, who's this big, handsome, strapping lad, who talks exactly like his brother talks, but gets to a quarterback unlike anybody else in the fucking league. They got Trent Williams at the offensive line. They got Fred Warner flying around.

And then they got baby Paul Amalu at safety. But Rock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant Air quarterback, has stepped into the men's league, into the adult league, out of Iowa State, straight into a fucking position in which people are saying he is the X-factor for why the Niners are so good. The entire team is behind him.

He's making all the right plays. And he has accuracy that he's had his entire life. So much that he actually had to say, Saban got no ball. Because Saban said he didn't have accuracy coming out of high school.

This guy didn't put it in a keyhole. And in Shanahan's offense, he's been able to do it. So they're going to make a run. They win a Super Bowl just a few years back.

They were one deep ball away from not only having a franchise quarterback forever, but having a Super Bowl in the Shanahan era. And then the Philadelphia fucking Eagles. Here we go. The team filled with...

DOWS! Coached by an Italian... DOWS! Seemingly unstoppable.

Have recreated football with the way they do the quarterback dive, because their center is the greatest of all time at it. Jason Kelsey obviously had Cleveland more athletic than you are. He's their center. He's their heartbeat.

He's their soul. And they have an offensive line that's great. They sing well, too. They have a fucking album that they released over Christmas.

They have weapons on the outside. Traded for one. On draft night, they actually got a GM fired this year from Tennessee Titans because of how great he has fit in alongside a Heisman winner that is also a weapon. Defense has got DOWS all over the field.

And they continue to sign and bring in more people that are great at football. Their special teams are very, very, very solid. And their quarterback squats like fucking 900 pounds. Their quarterback going into the season was questioned on whether or not he could be a guy.

He's a fucking MVP all of a sudden. Philadelphia Eagles have been tough to beat. Well, they run all the way to Phoenix, Arizona. And hoist Lombo is the Confetti Falls.

We shall see. Only four more weeks until we find out we'll be here every step of the way. Then we're going to take a two-week vacation. The Ducks tables here at Boston, Conor, at Teichman.

Conor, I just ran through the entire situation basically for all the teams. And how we see them and how I see it. Who's a surprise, maybe, you think? What's a surprise?

Who could potentially come and beat the Cincinnati Bengals? A team that won on the road last year against Tennessee. Then one on the road against Kansas City Chiefs. Then go to the Super Bowl.

No one Aaron Donald shove away from maybe winning that thing. Who could potentially go from four and five or four and something, 12, one, fifth, five, what? You get it. Yeah, I'm sure.

Two, Super Bowl run, two, we're back. Who could potentially do that? Is it the Jacksonville fucking Jaguars? I would like to say it's the Jags.

I just think it's too hard with Mahomes and all they have with the Chiefs. I don't know if this is the same situation, but I do feel as if the Dallas Cowboys, if Dak plays like he just played against the Bucks. On the road against Tom. On the road against Tom.

On the road against the fucking Niners team. It could be very similar to the Cincinnati situation. Exactly. When Dak's playing that well, they really are very, very hard to play against, especially when you're talking about Schultz, Gallup, C.D.

Lamb, they add T.Y. Hilton. We're a big... Zeke, Tony.

Zeke, Tony. You need weapons. And they have all of them. So I feel like the Cowboys might be that team.

But then again, we were talking about the Dallas Cowboys. And what do they do? They fuck it up every single year. And we love the Niners here.

And we think they are another team that not really like the Bengals because, you know, since what, week 10? It's kind of been the story. Start out the rough, though. We're great early.

Nobody's seen the Niners like this in the dominating fashion that they have. They're almost number one seed. We're going to be able to get it towards the end of the season. I like the Cowboys a lot.

That NFC seems to be where maybe somebody could go and run. And it's because the AFC is just so tough. I mean, we have four teams left, so everybody's fucking good. But the AFC, for like the next 20 years, I think this is a conversation we should have.

Young quarterbacks. Yeah. Every one. All over.

We're in a new chapter, Ty. And yesterday, after Aaron Rodgers' Tuesday, are you in a new chapter? Ooh. Are you?

Is everything okay, Ty? I'm fine. Great haircut. Hey, great haircut.

Long overdue, my hair fucking stunk. And after I took my John Deere hat off yesterday, my head hurt so bad because it was just a mess. I said, you know what? I need to get a haircut today.

But that's neither here nor. Hey, baby, JC. Hey, baby, JC. Backwards, Barbara.

Hey, baby. We were talking a little bit last night, Texan. I still think Rodgers is going to be back with the Packers. I mean, this isn't, you know, new hat.

This is kind of what we've come to expect the last couple offseasons. Well, this is why everybody's pissed, right? Exactly. Exactly.

But, and again. This guy, every year, same thing. And that's what everybody's saying to me. Oh, yeah, for sure.

And saying to my hair. Exactly. And I don't give a shit. And, yeah, maybe, like, I'm a little biased because we are closer to it because the Packers are my favorite team.

He's the quarterback. I love him as a football player. He's one of my favorite athletes. And I just so happen to have the opportunity through you and through the show to get to fucking talk to him every single week for the last three years.

Right, so we're a performance on the Bahamas. Make him feel comfortable. Maybe agree to Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, maybe.

Maybe. I mean, but, again, you know, like, that's, so, yeah, am I crazy? And do a lot of fans maybe come at you and come at me for kind of backing and say, like, because that is no bullshit when I told you yesterday. Like, would I like to see him be the Packers quarterback until he's, like, 42 and retires?

Absolutely. And now everyone's saying, obviously, this morning, hey, fuck it. Rip the Band-Aid off. We're sick and tired of this guy.

Get rid of him. See what you have in Jordan Love. I would say they were probably more likely to do that if they would have made. They missed the playoffs.

Like, I'll speak for me as a fan. I'm not doing that again next year, okay? We're not doing that again next year. I'm not watching a fucking team go 8-9 or 7-10 next year.

So, Ty, this is a problem with some fan bases. Absolutely. The culture, we're currently experiencing it as well. Right.

You go from quarterback that wears jeans and slings the ball around. Yeah. Long time. Great throw at the football.

Who also was an actor in a couple movies. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Inspired Jimmy.

This is a movie that's happening right now. Everybody will learn it. I said I'm going to dress it last Wednesday. Right.

Can't. At this point, we can't. Yeah, you can't. We will, though.

There will be a time. There will be a time, bro. We'll drop this one down. January 18th, 2023.

12-13 on that clock. 12-13 on that clock as well. Oh, weird. This will be part of it.

And whenever we run it, everybody will understand this is part of it. Yep, clip it. It's hilarious. This is one of the most hysterical things that I've ever...

As somebody that views life as a movie, this is one that is a hilarious situation just to find yourself in. Oh, yeah. Kind of one of those things where you never think it'll happen, but then you kind of realize, like, oh, yeah, a lot of people do watch the show, you know, and we're not just bullshitting and talking with each other. It may feel that way because we're on a small stage up here, but word does travel fast.

It does. Yeah, and to be clear, not worried about nothing. No, no. Not worried about nothing, but it would be dumb to talk about right now.

Absolutely. Because we don't have the full story. Just know said promo that will be coming. It will have it today.

It will, yeah. Anyways, you guys know from two quarterbacks that have been quarterbacking the team for a long time. A lot of success. Not a lot of sucking.

Okay? The coach kind of going through this right now with all turnover and not making playoffs two years in a row and sucking and everything like that. Not making the playoffs almost might be the reason why Aaron was believing that three-man Packers might not want to... Now might be the time to kind of do it, kind of get it all in at one time.

Because if Aaron was told, and Gutz Goon said we're not at that point yet whenever he was asked if he would address Aaron and tell him that it was time to move on or whatever, and he said we're not at that point the other day, right? Yeah, correct. So did he mean we're not at that point yet? Like we've got to go through a film and figure out what our plans are and brainstorm and see what our future is because we've been in the season.

Now it's time for us to kind of figure out what the future is. And is that what he told Aaron? Is that why Aaron has the feeling to say like, hey, it's a two-way trip? Because I think that has continued to be the same story.

It's like, hey, this is a two-way relationship. Just listen to all those Pantheon quarterbacks people speak about leaving the game and what the commitment is to the game. I mean, there's a full public divorce that just took place that we all watched happen. And obviously Tom Brady is older, 45 years old, and Aaron's 39.

So when you compare it to Tom, I guess, he is younger. He is younger. He's real. There's a lot of life that's happened for a lot of people that he has just committed to football, his entire being, basically.

39 is almost 40. His whole life has been being a football player. You know, there's some people that think, like, go into the next one. But it's a tough decision to make.

It's not easy. So I think he has to make that. And then what if by the time he makes that decision, which there has to be a timeline because they're going I wanted to get in here earlier, but we just honestly, now it's even better for you to kind of take in everything that has been said here. Not your NFL vet.

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We try to tweet questions to their feed every time. And we're always told that we're given the wrong hashtag. But then we'll see somebody else's question pop up there. And we'll have the same hashtag that we had.

And we're like, so is it going on here? Fuck. Anyways, we're big fans of the show because we're big fans of the Man and A.B., his co-host. Host of A.B.

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They're acting as if he was coming from a different place. But he was like, just kind of laying it out. Hey, this is where I'm at right now. This is where he's hearing the team is at, too.

But this is obviously all Aaron's talking. I feel like you guys have some good questions, too. Absolutely. A.B.

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You lose a great quarterback. Dude, ESPN stopped coming to the Indianapolis Colts locker room whenever Andrew Dunn hurt. The team didn't even exist anymore. Not saying that's going to happen with the Packers.

It's how beloved the fan base is and everything like that. But let's say Jordan does take a couple years to develop, which could happen. Jordan might drop in and be a guy. Very much good drop in and be a guy.

The Packers have a history of doing that. Now, this is an entirely new front office scouting department coaching everything. Same building, though, I guess. They've been able to have success in the turnover from quarterback to quarterback in the past.

So we can assume that the building will be able to accomplish that. I guess that's the equipment managers and the athletic trainers and stuff like that. And there's no owner. And a new acting owner Is different from whenever All that's right So it's a whole new This is an entirely new operation But Jordan Love might be He might not be though And if he's not being The Packers I know you're the Packers And Packers are always Going to have a lot of Drop out of conversation For a while too Just in The national You're talking about business-wise Yeah business-wise Obviously locally And Packers is a huge fan base Obviously great tradition So they'll be alright But as far as outside of that The other stuff that comes with having And that's everybody That's players too When you lose a great quarterback But a great quarterbacking team Yeah all that shit is just done It gets real regular You know one o'clock kickoff Time out of that Quickly Parades Aaron welcome to the show Aaron said before last season That he wanted to finish his career In Green Bay And I assume at the time Green Bay was telling him That they wanted him to finish his career there too After this year Is that a different conversation That's taking place between Aaron And the Packers organization It sounds like it If you listen to what Aaron's saying Unless Aaron's just like They're not saying that to him And he's just making stuff up Which I don't know why he would do that Make it clear he wanted to be part of Rebuilder Well and I think a big part That I took away at least Was those I mean he singled out And mentioned certain guys by name Who their futures may kind of be In limbo with the Packers And it's like Hey I want my guys That I love back next year Okay so Whatever else we need to do With the roster Like I want these guys Who I'm very close with And comfortable with Like I want them back next year And if they're not Then we might have to have a discussion About what's next Joining us now is a man Who is a former quarterback Obviously Just an absolute legend Of a Centerville elk Over there in Ohio He's been a face of college football I don't know 27 years He doesn't know that though This fucking guy has no clue That that has happened Obviously with the way he acts And everything like that This dude is a bona fide Football rock star He dabbled in the NFL This past season With fine folks at Amazon So now he's in our world to get his thoughts on this and more.

Fresh out of the sun, I heard. The incredibly handsome Kirk Herbstreit. Sir, how are you? How are we doing?

How are we doing, guys? You re-energized, huh? Got the motor started back up? We feeling good?

How are you doing? Yeah, yeah, I'm feeling good. Feeling good. Watched a little NFL football at like 8 in the morning, which was different.

And fired up for this weekend, man. We had some great games. Sunday's going to be epic. Yeah, I think so.

I mean, Sunday night, obviously, you get a chance to watch Trent Williams battle with Micah and then watch Cuz for the Tyron Smith battle with Bosa. That is going to be a blast. You're going to talk about absolute lightning potentially happening on every single snap if you like watching one-on-ones. In the Bengals Bills, you become pseudo-Bengals guy, right?

Because you've been going there. You have season tickets, I think, because you live in Cincinnati, although the priest from Moeller, Father McCullough from Moeller Academy thought that you just rented a fake apartment in Cincinnati so Chase could go to school in Cincinnati, Ohio, out of Nashville. You picked up and moved there. You have full season tickets.

Are you a Bengals guy now? You feel like you're a little bit of a Bengals guy? I don't have season tickets. There's a guy here locally who invites me to his suite.

Oh, okay. Even smarter than season tickets. When I'm in town and available, I love to go over. I'll tell you, because I lived in Nashville for 11 years, and I go over to the Titans games before Braves got there.

I can't remember who the head coaches were. Malarkey or something? Wizinhunt. I moved to Nashville, and I thought it was a football city and state, and I learned it was a hockey city.

That's why the Hockey Predators were doing good. The Preds were on fire, and if you needed a good nap, you'd go over to the Titans game on Sunday. It was just a snooze fest. Braves has changed that around.

They've made it a little better, but they just need a new stadium, which sounds like it's in the works, because that stadium's got to be the worst in the league. Washington, Washington. Washington and Tennessee, I think. Oh, Washington you would put up there, too.

Poop pipes bursting on fans in the middle of games. Yeah, the gate falling almost making Jalen Hurts' head off. I mean, you're talking... Tennessee also, there's a big crack that goes right down like the middle of it was being displayed.

You're right. Change the atmosphere. They've got the yellow grass figured out down there, too. It goes dormant like in September.

It's just dreadful. But it looks like they're getting it potentially heading in a different direction. But Braves got at least some energy gaunches. But, man, Cincinnati, I think it used to be lifeless as well.

And then Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and that whole energy of what that offense is about, that place has now become an electric atmosphere. That's a tough place to play now. And you know from going there probably all you guys that played, that's never really been known as a hostile environment, has it, over the years? I don't know.

So whenever like when AJ was playing and Pac was on the Bengals and they're playing Steelers, remember that playoff game? Or to get into the playoff. There was a couple years when Dalton was winning like 11 games. You could tell the Bengals Who Day fans were very real, right?

Because they were there all the time. And we played them in preseason every single year. So like, sorry, they were filled up. But you're talking about an entire city just being bought in it feels like.

Oh, it feels like that. Yeah. Because watching those things it's like a college atmosphere almost looks like this. Exactly, exactly.

And I think they were like that even before they made the run to the Super Bowl last year. I just think there's something that's contagious about Joe Burrow and his energy and the confidence he played with when he was in college back in 2019 at LSU when they won it all. And then it just continued when he became a rookie. He had the injury that he had to deal with.

But there was never anything about you just believe in it. And you guys know what it's like when a team believes in a quarterback and the town feeds off of that there's just a belief that you can find a way to win every game you play and that'll really be put to the test on the road this weekend against Buffalo. But yeah, being here in Cincinnati you can definitely count me in. I grew up as a Bengals.

I grew up in Southwest Ohio. You said it's Central Health. So I was always kind of a Bengals fan even as a kid. But they just sucked for so long.

It's hard to really be out there. It's kind of like being a Lions fan. Which one of your guys is a Lions fan? Foxy.

Oh yeah. Foxy. It's like Foxy, you're a proud Lions fan but you're not beating on your chest about the Lions very often. This year they're starting to come along a little bit, right?

But since Barry Sanders played there you haven't had a whole lot to talk about. Oh, Calvin. And then they stole his money. The only thing to talk about was just negative stuff.

But I am pumped and MCBC was on Monday Night Football. Now we're hearing news that some players on the Lions are like, what's it make us to stay here? We want to build something special. So that is obviously on the horizon of all the bad programs there is a chance.

I think the Bengals were one of the teams that gave everybody a thought that they could make it because bad year then when Joe Burrow gets hurt he comes back they go to the fucking Super Bowl, Kirk just out of nowhere. Now every team that's bad is like, you know what? The Bengals were able to do it. The Bengals were able to do it because to your point, Joe Burrow.

He is phenomenal. Now, let's talk about another guy because you just talked about team and buying in and everything like that. Aaron Rodgers. Hey, Aaron.

You obviously, you tell me you watch the show and you bring up a lot of things from the show so we appreciate you watching the show. I assume you watch Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays with Aaron over the last three years and have learned things about Aaron. That's a fascinating situation, isn't it? Because before Aaron Rodgers Tuesday he was hated by everybody, right?

Pretty much not everybody. There's people that love Aaron Rodgers obviously but a majority of the conversation about Aaron Rodgers was never about how good of a football player he was. It was always about him as a human. Hey, this guy.

Kind of a mystery. Yes, an enigma. An enigma but also a lot of negative stuff about him. His personal life, his relationships, everything about him is always kind of this guy's selfish, everything like that because he never talked.

Just never talked about it. Just stayed away from it. So now that we've done these three years and I feel like we've learned a lot about him. This dude is like a hippie, just a deep thinking guy.

I'm going to kill him with indifference. I'm not going to answer every single story but it feels like any time a situation pops up with him everybody goes back to the original thoughts they had about him as opposed to what he has showcased for three years straight now sitting here for 45 minutes to an hour every single Tuesday bearing his soul pretty much. Anytime something pops up it's almost like everybody just goes back to you and it's like this is that selfish prima donna prick who doesn't care about it. It's like why does that happen you think to Aaron Rodgers, Kirk?

What do you think that is? And me but especially to Aaron. Honestly, I think when you're the best whether you're a coach or you're a player and you do it not for one year but you do it for an entire career you're going to create a lot of enemies and when you throw in a little bit of a wild card with his personality until he had the platform with you when you're the greatest and you don't fit into the box of how you're supposed to be then I think people look for ways to kind of take shots at you in any way that they can. It's hard to on the field because he's been so good for so long so it just seems like that's where a lot of the critics try to spend their energy but to your point now about these Tuesdays me included I really enjoy just getting to know him as a guy I think a lot of us look forward to what's been really cool is you're thinking oh he probably won't do this Tuesday there he is it's easy to be there after the MVP seasons but man he was taking body blows this year and things were not good dude would be there every Tuesday talking to you guys about what just happened and clarifying maybe some things that happened on a certain third down or maybe the game was on the line it didn't work out what happened I really enjoy just hearing him talk and now here we are once again is he going to be back in Green Bay is he not are they going to come to some kind of understanding where they're all on the same page and they can move together and hopefully they will as a fan of just the game just watching him in that uniform I hope he gets everything he needs and the Packers are able to work things out you're old school too so watching him retire a Packer would be fucking really that's old school he's an old school player too hey he's got the cotton you know what I mean he's an old school type guy it feels like I'm just one of those guys I hate seeing these guys you know I mean think about some of the players over the years they put on a uniform for a year or two and you almost forget about it you know Brady's case he won the Super Bowl and maybe Aaron could go do that somewhere else I'm not a Packers fan but I do love seeing Aaron Rodgers in a Packers uniform trying to get them to win at the division and try to win a Super Bowl there's something great about that so hopefully they work out yeah but he would also love to see him in a Colts uniform oh my god in that blue jersey are you working that in for him well the boys are working against me the boys are working against me because he said I'm not going to be a part of a rebuild and he said there's some teams that are probably saying hey we're going to rebuild they're probably high up in the draft he's like the Texans probably say that and then everybody Colts, Colts so as he's giving this really important answer I'm trying to explain them Colts are not we are not a rebuild we are because he don't want to be a part of a rebuild that's a big deal he's like where are you right now what are the Colts we're not in playoffs we're not going to talk about it we're in trouble that's what we're in yeah you hear me we're in trouble that is what we're in who's the quarterback Aaron Rodgers put it on there it is it's right there no no no that was for that's for the troops that's an army ranger that's a green beret that's a green beret thank you for acknowledging them and that's what we'll do as an Indianapolis Colts thank you so much get the suite ready absolutely hey Aaron any tickets you need from our suite you got it dude that's amazing so anyways yeah I'd love to see him as Packer obviously because it would be cool as a Colt great for the league where's Brady going to go next year what's the consensus what do you think you have different insights than we do even though you're very new to the NFL you've had the opportunity to get to know a lot of people that have a little different insight than we have we've done from my player side you have a chance now I don't even think Tom Brady knows right now but it's fun to try to envision him fitting in at different places Las Vegas makes a lot of sense for obvious reasons I don't know Tampa though the old buddy came on yesterday from Pewter Report and he laid out about how if you think about it whenever he needed 11 days off in training camp the Bucs were like you're good whenever he wanted to go to Kraft's wedding and a missile walkthrough Light and the Bucs were like you're good he wanted to sign some people Light was like we got it so they were laying out that maybe Tom will acknowledge that the Bucs were very very fucking accommodating hospitable to him and maybe that way in there with the payment and then if they have a new coaching staff that potentially takes place not Todd Bowles but maybe Todd Brinson's own or a different group I can't see that I think Tampa's back at square one starting all over they own 40 million isn't that $40 million dead cap?

35 on March 15th I believe that's a lot of money in dead cap I guess you could just start over and say fuck it for a year but that's a lot of money in dead cap I'm just watching them not just against the Cowboys but just in general this year didn't just feel like just something's missing there man I don't know it doesn't feel like oh get a couple guys make a few moves it just feels like let's start over that's what it feels like to me Bruce Arians has to go to bed at night by the way the same friend thought I'm a massive Kyle Shanahan system and the way his approach and the way they build it with John Lynch I'm a 49ers guy and not a fan just of what they do you guys are laughing about Brock Purdy but what if that dude who's laughing about Brock Purdy who are you talking to? everybody everybody looks like not this dude he saw more of him than we did Kirk what's your thoughts on any chance he falls off that cliff or did you like him coming out? here's what's cool about him I think he could change the game for how people evaluate quarterbacks because I think I've talked with you guys about this you put Aaron Rodgers and Brady and before that Drew Brees Phillip Rivers Big Ben it's the end of that era and of course we have Josh Allens and Justin Pervers and Burrow and this next wave I feel like play callers I think offensive coordinators right now some of them are getting let go I think they're still trying to run their old system that they learned like a digit system from North Turner or the West Coast offense and they're trying to fit it into guys like Justin Fields or these guys are no dual threat now the smart play callers I think are adjusting what we've seen with Andy Reid what we've seen with Jalen Hurts the guys are finding ways to take these college quarterbacks that don't run NFL systems and trying to get them to adjust to what they do well so with that being said I feel like Kyle Shanahan as a quarterback friendly offense you don't have to come in reps that position more than any other position the more reps you get the more the game slows down and then you put him into that system where they're going to run the football get the ball in his hands quick he's very cerebral he sees things if you notice if you really evaluate him very rarely is he holding onto the football so you combine his intelligence and his experience with Kyle Shanahan's system the defense that they play you know a punt's a good play with the 49ers and this guy doesn't make mistakes I would not be shocked to see them not only beat Dallas but they're going to go to Philly and beat Philly I think they're the team to beat in my opinion in the NFC you did say that immediately after the Niner-Seattle game I was in the booth you know we hit that we hit that super booth from the booth that was a big deal thank you for the I was casual that night yeah you did go casual I remember that you did yeah you want you want something different you know kind of a winner casual you look really distinguished you carry that big bag upstairs we got casual on that night is that your fault? I am happy that you had that many clothes with you seemingly four closets worth of clothes I am happy you had that what a life you have lived but anyways yeah bingo hey bingo literally 15 minutes before the game just I didn't know who I needed bingo that's crazy to me we'll move on you said immediately after that game you said immediately after you said a lot of people like the Eagles or whatever he said I like the Eagles as well he said how do you beat that team that's what you said you literally pointed at the Niners team as they were celebrating we're in the booth and the Niners were celebrating I think George Kittle was getting interviewed there was something else going on he goes how do you beat that team and I'm like that's a great fucking question every time we pick games whenever you're like I'm batting or whatever putting together parlay it's like always a thought like how do you move against that defense like how do you if they want to you know like and I think they fuck around a little bit it seems like there is an ability to get yards on them what makes them so good is that you need to get off no what was that just get a little push up in maybe tighten the spray tan up a little bit maybe I didn't know people can get yards on them I feel like but they still visibly are just like the best defense I've seen in forever they're physical they're fast as shit they tackle great and you know they play a lot of zone and obviously when you play zone you're going to have opportunities to hit big plays and you got to hit them and if you miss them you only get three maybe four opportunities to get chunks on them so you got to take advantage of those and then their offense they eat up clock they stay ahead of the change they're efficient so they give that defense a chance to rest make adjustments and get back on the field and that's the best thing fit your system on both sides Debo how about Debo dude and Christian and they add Christian but Debo is like he was hurt for a while so I think people forgot Christian you got a hell of a interview from training camp remember he was making plays in training camp they talk about it this team is just and they get better you just check in just Darius you love this like corners that are willing to tackle and receivers that are willing to block tells you a lot about a personality of a football team and I feel like they're that team they're no ego you bring up Ayuk he could go somewhere else and be like an A.J.

Brown type of guy like he has a really ridiculous skill set and here he is buying into Kyle Shanahan's system and blocking the depth that they have on the defensive line led by Bosa you know they rotate guys in and out did you see what he's eating did you see what Bosa's eating oh yeah oh yeah he's like you he's like you no carbs yeah like me yeah no he's doing it with like science he's got a chef out there he's got a full time chef 40% carbs 40% protein 20% I think like vegetables I forget what it was and that's every meal he's eating just like raw salmon raw fish and then he's got some no when you say carbs what do you mean by carbs like sweet potato brown rice or like anything that tastes good is mostly carbs I do the cheating way he does the real way because That's against the rules to me A defensive lineman That leads the league in sacks To look like that So he's so proportionally put together You think he's like short So then I go to the game Against Seattle And I'm in the I think I texted it to the group I said just do the fucking jungle cat bro Because he's spread out In that sprinter stance He said his trainer said Probably faster if you Put your arm back So he tried He said hang it there It just really worked They showed a video From his rookie year When he was in the Super Bowl And they were talking about him Being like Right out of reach And then he showed Some sports science shit And they're like He's half a second faster To the quarterback now If he was like this Whenever he was a rookie He would have this money Like they broke it all down And it's like He is fully committed To being the biggest game wrecker In sports So let's talk about the Eagles Just another bucket I give it his all Oh that's what it is I showed an OH Oh no Oh no Oh no Oh no You guys are going to have that I don't want it to happen to you Remember AJ stopped giving me the IOs It was after day 3 or something Because obviously First couple days I got them all out of my system And we did a show Live in Columbus, Ohio And he had my OHs That are screened How many did you get? I mean it's just nonstop You almost can't do a show there Like almost can't do a show there Because they want to have fun And they're very intoxicated Which we're cool with Because some of us are as well We're just going to have a good day It's tough to do a talk show though Whenever just some Ah Okay Okay And then just kind of get into it No they don't get IOs though Everybody goes like Shut up but that guy's a hero For even saying the OH So what do you do on the 3rd and 4th Do you just keep going back on the IOs? No I forget how I handled it I think I judged the guy's voice Because I couldn't see him I did a full breakdown Of what he does for a living I think I did one of those And I was like Everybody else we can get all these Out of our system later Or we can just get roasted It's not going to stop I think it did I did pretty good I did pretty good How did you make that stop? No just next time we do a show there You'll come with us We'll hopefully be able to manage In a similar fashion We got to do a show in Detroit This off season too I think we're going to do live shows This off season So we're going to have to have you there That seems natural to me What's your latest announcement?

Besides Bud Light I saw congratulations I see the can I know you're a Coors Light guy though Really? I've raped the benefit of him Because there's been a couple Of situations where there's Only Coors Light in the place So I have to And it's not bad It's not fucking Bud Light No I appreciate you though man So are you guys going to do Are the fellas coming out To game day next year every week Or what are we doing with that? That was a fun segment Connor go ahead pal Is that something you would Even think about considering I mean they would have to Talk to your agent Sure sure My PR people absolutely would But after what happened At the national championship I'm not so sure That's the team environment I want to be a part of Just because Kirk would invite us Places and he'd leave And we'd show up And then no one would be there So we'd kind of just Sit and play with our thumbs While we're waiting in the lobby To go meet Kirk And then come to find out Oh Kirk's not here So we just drove a half hour Just to valet the car for 20 bucks And then drive a half hour back You didn't even know I was there We're coming to see you And then we literally You know LA is LA So getting anywhere So it was like a good 35 minutes Probably later we get there But boy we were fucking bummed We were so excited To come have a beer with you Do you know how bummed we were To come have a beer The one night I had nothing to do Was the one night When you were texting me And you were saying Come on you're coming out That was the one time That I shut it down And I didn't come out And meet you guys Oh okay so you just fucked your face There was nothing else going on There was nothing else going on No I That's right No I was very tired Hey you made the right decision No I ended up back in the hotel No way Yes see that's what I'm talking about You missed us You're a team player huh We're drinking beers With Marty Smith Arnold Schwarzenegger We're sitting near the boys Yeah Who would have thought We're busy in the national championship weekend What did you do You have a bunch of events I assume that's kind of your thing there Wrap up the year A bunch of people Yeah I had a few different things I had to do But it was mostly just coaches Meetings And in LA it's Well he sleeps in the Rose Bowl booth Oh is that your hotel Oh you guys are beautiful You're just kicking me You're kicking me around You're the first hour No you know We're complimenting you bro We were very bummed We didn't see you though But it makes sense I was so tired On national championship day You know whenever Whenever we finally got to the game I thought to myself Yeah sure no one saw Mike Posner You know what I mean For many reasons Sure no one saw Mike Posner Like I had those regrets I felt like I was a young guy I'm like I know this How about you next to Saban That was a blast Hey he's He didn't know He's a good guy right Yeah he said At first commercial break He goes where'd you go to school And I said West Virginia He goes you know why I'm like yeah I fucking know You're from there I know you're from there And I think it was from that moment I think we had a bump You guys became boys As the show went on You guys got tighter and tighter I feel like I think so I don't know if he was There was a couple moments Where I don't know If he was focusing or thinking And I interrupted it Or if he was like done with my shit You know so it was kind of A little bit of a balance During some of the commercial breaks But every time he was wide up He was I enjoyed the hell out of Nick Saban I'm a massive fan So he knows that I think So what did you guys talk about In the second half of that game When it was over after a couple series I made a couple of sexual innuendos Hey listen I don't ever do that either I made a couple of sexual innuendos I heard about that I talked about the rain for a little bit I was a little tired It was like 12 hours We were live for that day The laying inside Was certainly a massive part I can see that Just like sheets coming down What did you talk about You guys had to cover the game still Wow Because we had access to everything We had a guy with a mustache Yeah we were just We should have definitely Plugged into you guys And just let you carry it For the second half No no we should have done a chat though We should have We should have done what we're doing Right now for the whole second half The whole second half We had stuff to do The mustache guy Did you see the mustache The mustache guy What was that Oh my god this dude AJ is making an incredible point Like he's literally talking Breaking something down Right What's that called Type of vision Perif Right perif I see a face With a lip decoration That seemed fake Like I thought somebody Was wearing a Like one of those fake fucking Oh this person broke onto the field That's what I was thinking Walked by Completely distracted Holy shit Then turn around And then AJ realizes I think his perif Gets the same thing He goes oh my god We thank him for being a firefighter And for his service Literally just on spot Because of how good it looked We had that to carry For like 2-3 minutes That's a while Can you imagine not having that Oh my god You guys are in trouble He was prepared though Because he called Colts Broncos this year So it's not as if That was the worst game That he had to call That's a fair point That was the worst game If a score happens It changes How about Getting excited to call the NFL And looking at your schedule Before the season starts And you're like Putting little stars No I mean Are you kidding me Ranch Cardinals Matt Ryan was a Wilson I mean put that one down We can't get first down Somebody just move the sticks You did great though I want to let you know You did great Energy was great all year Seemingly enjoyed all of it Which I think I know I think you do though I think you do Because you understand And I said this earlier About you being the face Of college football for 27 years And not knowing that Because that's how you act Like you are very much A very pumped to be here Person still Doesn't realize how big Of a fucking celebrity you are So I do know that you enjoyed it And everything like that But your energy While going through those games We thought was fantastic When you could have Certainly dropped off And nobody would have blamed you for it I think you had a great year dude Welcome to the league Hey I kept thinking about that After I was trying to get First downs on Thursday night This is the men's league This is where they go This is where first downs Go to Now we should say that Immediately upon your arrival To the NFL Worst offense in half a decade So is that you? Are you thinking about that at all?

Well we're going to find out Because I signed a five year contract Let's go baby Alright enjoy yourself We can't thank you enough For joining us That's amazing You deserve it by the way Hey Kirk Thank you for being so good to me And everybody this season We really appreciate it dude Thank you guys And we'll look forward to We're going to get Connor This is a guy with a t-shirt With a wolf on it That's what he's bringing That segment was outstanding And we've got to get that Remember I had a mission To get you on game day? Mission accomplished Now we've got to get The fellas on the road Your show live on the road On Fridays Are you kidding me? We can do a night show So we brainstorm this already We don't have enough people That work for us To figure it out Especially during the season But the night before the games On the campuses We can easily get a theater And stream a show from there And then we could maybe I mean if If my relationship continued To build with some of these College football people We can maybe have them come Be a guest on a show They would love that From theater I think that's got to happen I think that would be a monster That would be a monster Alright, if you get your people on that We need to rent out all those theaters We need to figure out the ticketing We'll be able to be a part of that But what is it going to be? Is it going to be five bucks?

Is it going to be a donation? How do we go about doing that? A thousand, two thousand Twenty-five thousand dollar tickets That's just us in an empty theater We drive still tickets Adam, we need guests You need book We need book the guests And also you would have to be there Of course I'm in I'm in Okay, that's one Boom, check it out We've got a five-night parlay Friday nights, guys You're with us Oh, shit Can't do it Oh, boy After football season Good run High school ends early Depends on how far they run the playoffs Hey, they're going to be running farther too Next year I already know about them boys The Bombers They're going to go That team's got a lot of young boys They've got a young squad this year They're becoming young men Can't wait to watch the Bombers and the Bombers squad And you on the NFL for the next four years Here we go Let's go, dude You're going to look younger then Than you do now somehow We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen Hey, hey Hey, hey Hey, hey How are you doing, Paul? Doing great Digs does look good So, yeah, I second that Okay All in favor?

Aye Okay, so we all voted Thank you Tony, this guy, metal Jeez, Tony Give me a Billy Picks out here Make sure he gets a good shot Yeah You've seen that? Billy Picks has been taking photos around the office It's fantastic He sent some to me After we're out in LA He's like, you know, I figure I have to take some shots It's cool because it's a real camera It does look much better than just an iPhone Yeah, he'll just kind of creep around He's really good at lurking in the shadows Why does he always do this? In a good way No, he's been fantastic Make sure you get a photo there, Tony And we have some breaking news And I assumed that you would have just led off with this So I was hoping that you would allude me for this whole thing Because normally when a guest is said to come on the program And AJ is introduced I normally ask AJ how he's doing He goes, oh, good Don't we have a guest coming on? It's like, thank you, AJ Thank you, we're probably trying to figure that out right now And Gabe Davis was supposed to join us 1.15 Eastern Standard Time We have some breaking news Okay Out of the Buffalo Beals Their practice ended early today There was a gap in between practice and meetings Where he was supposed to come on the program Practice ended early Everything got slid up He is in meetings No longer in the window To do said conversation with us He'll be moved to Friday Probably So we'll be chatting with him then So we have breaking news Things are really fucking good in Buffalo Yeah, they're in practice early Bumping meetings up That only happens when they feel pretty good about where they're at And I don't know if that was supposed to be How I was supposed to handle that With them giving us the information But immediately This is the first time Has this happened earlier than you Any other time in the year Have they had a heat?

Good question But when they texted Zito that They texted Zito that And Zito was explaining like Their meetings now And I'm like, okay, can you just read what they said Practice ended early Meetings got moved up I'm like, my first thought is somebody That's been in the building It's like, that's great Fast practice is very, very good news But you had the same reaction Same reaction Especially this time of the season Playoffs, you know Big game coming Huge game coming up Obviously the biggest I don't get out of the room I don't have the fast practices You know, Matt Ryan and the Colts That's right, too fast sometimes What are we talking about? That was a very different situation The problem was the games, Tony Not the practice Practice is we sliced and diced those lions Then we killed them And those teams went two different directions Didn't they? But nonetheless, it sounds like things are good We appreciate them telling us Giving us a heads up And also moving into Friday We appreciate it Buffalo Bills people have been The most phenomenal folks First class Honestly, it is bananas How nice they are to us So we're very, very thankful for that And Gabe Davis can congratulate Sounds like, hey, let's walk in Meetings, maybe they're like You know what, boys look like we're flying around Let's just get right to their mentals Or maybe they had a You know, 10-period practice That took the amount of time Like a six-period practice That means we're going fast That means there's no mistakes There's no re-dos There's no nothing It's just like, boom, bang, boom, boom, pop, boom How we doing? Those days are good days Everybody's vibe and building Is very high on those days Coaches' vibes are very high Chef's days Vibes are very high Athletic trainers' vibes are very high Equipment managers' vibes are very high Loops done early Those are good days Hey, make sure you turn in your loops Turn in your loops Real thing, AJ I mean, credit to the coaching staff Because we all know As the games mean more and more The coaches usually get more and more nervous The old tight butthole syndrome And they are never letting people out Because we've got to make use of Every single opportunity we possibly have And credit to our chef For turning that message That, hey, can't do it into just a full thing And just can't stop being dumbasses ever Just that's the problem They have said that DeMar Hamlin's been around the facility Almost every day this week So maybe this does lend credence To fucking DeMar Hamlin Coming out on ATV this weekend Sal Capaccio fucking Just rip and shred the guitar And then boom All the boys coming out I don't know what line is right now This may be a Buffalo Bios minus 50 situation The Bengals are not happy either though No, they're not The Bengals think they should have a home game And Kurt Kirchner in the last hour Was talking about how That Bengals building in the stadium Is a real advantage now And not now In that it wasn't before But it's a real weapon And you can see it on TV It is I can see Now I can go back a couple weeks Remember I asked Rappaport I'm like, what are the Bengals fans?

You know They were not a host I don't think about it That was not a That was one of those stadiums One o'clock games There's a lot of places Where there's one o'clock games Where, yeah, better We've got to bring our own juice guys We've got to warm up You can think it's a JV game There's nine people the same Yeah, man The sun, the weird shadows That's the worst You can feel it You can feel the atmosphere When the sun is at that weird angle Like, oh, this is like One of those sleepy early games Yeah, because you're using You know, a sundial's been around A long time before You're using yourself as a sundial You're like, god damn This sun is way down still You start to play music, fool As if the whole stadium is there So it's real loud People are trying to cover their arms Oh my god Yeah, that's not good Those are not good times That's not That's not good for the team Let's talk about some shit Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Had some fallout, AJ Your thoughts on being The reason behind it all I honestly haven't Rejected much of any fallout What happened? Are people pissed? I would imagine Like every day Yeah, every day Everybody's pissed But on this particular day People are pissed Because they go Oh, here we go again Seems like what people are saying It seems like Stop watching Stop watching No, no, I agree I agree with that We can just say something About Twitter compared to like a town square. We go down to a town square and he was obviously talking to British people, but he was, how people pin like, oh, you need a guitar teacher or something like that.

And there's like a little tear at the bottom of the piece of paper with the phone number on it. He said, Twitter is people just going down to a town square or whatever, grabbing that thing and going, I don't want a fucking guitar teacher. He's like, well, you don't need to. You don't have to.

You don't have to. You don't have to. That is a thing that does take place in our world. And there's a lot of people that hate watching a lot of things I'm learning.

I've learned through my experiences. But also, it is a story that is, you know, worthy of conversation. This is a pantheon quarterback in the NFL. And he and the Packers seemingly don't know if they want each other.

That was my big takeaway. Because in years past, it was like, Aaron has said it's a two-way street, two-way street, two-way street. Then allegedly, they negotiated ways to make it more of a two-way street as opposed to a one-way road and Aaron's just standing there trying to make everything right when decisions aren't being made. He said that again yesterday.

Does that surprise you? Like the Packers, if they want me back, it's a two-way street and I want to play football, then we'll figure that out as we go is his whole answer. But I didn't expect that from the Packers' side of it. Did you?

That was a bit surprising when he said, like, when he said, obviously, he's not going to be a part of a rebuild. And he said, if they feel like going with Jordan is the way to go, then he doesn't really, he can't really do anything about that. That was the most surprising part. But he knows, I'm sure if he wants to play football, I would imagine they would do what they can to have him there.

Okay. Is that your thoughts? That's my thoughts in the moment. I haven't given any thought before this moment right now.

You had to give it some thought. Yeah, come on. A little. That's what he said.

It's the same thing I thought right when he said it. Okay, well, he's mentioning that. I never even thought of that happening, really. I don't know if it's possible.

I think he's letting us know and everybody knows. We don't really know. There's a lot up in the air right now. I guess I'm outside.

And the Packers, and Ty, this is going to stop for you to hear, because you did bring it up earlier. You're like, our team's not in the playoffs. I'm not doing that again. I think that's if you're the Packers' side.

Because they obviously had to chat about that and Aaron's takeaway was they might not want him back. So that should be noted as well. Aaron, pretty observant human, I think. Okay, if they don't want to back go, what do they have to do financially?

What has to happen? It's like a massive, massive dead guy. Trade would be the thing. That's why he said, if I want to play football, which is a massive decision I'm going to make with my binocs watching the whales frolic in the Pacific Ocean.

That's right. Say he's going to do that. If I want to come back, and then whenever that happens, which there would have to be an expedited timeline, which I try to point out, like, well, if you do, there's a lot of things that have to take place because he said he wanted a couple things, Randall Cobb and Mercedes Lewis back at least. That whole thing has to happen before free agency, right?

Because there's a lot of stuff that has to be handled. So he said, if he wants to come back, and they want me back, so they're probably taking his time. It's his understanding, and this is just from listening to him yesterday, that they're taking his time to figure out what the fuck they want as well. He's going to take time, and they're going to take time.

Is that what you got out of that? I guess, or he's waiting to see what they plan on, what their plan might be, heading into the offseason as far as what the roster looks like. That's what I took from him. Yeah, so they're figuring out what they're doing.

Does he have a date in March where he's owed a roster bonus or anything like that out there? Might be a preview one, post-view one, but one of the things he said throughout the season... The one he said was June. June, yes, excuse me.

One of the things he said, though, is him coming back, a lot of it depends on the development of the team that they had, because of how young it was. It feels like Watson and Dobbs both came to their own by the end of the season, where it's like, hey, next year when you're coming back, sure, they're still young wide receivers, but these guys aren't brand new. It's not like he's teaching on the system. All of a sudden, when they do have Dobbs and Watson and who knows what those are, but when those two were on the field, they were very, very good by the end of the season.

Why does this continue to happen, though? What do you mean? Why does he still think that there's a chance that they don't want him to be their quarterback? What's the fucking deal?

I don't know, because he said that after week 14 or so, he said something similar, and Gudikens and LaFleur and everyone basically said, listen, we're not ready for this guy to leap down yet, and who knows, maybe things have changed in the last five weeks or so, but I just don't buy that. I think they want him back, and I think his big, like I mentioned in the first hour, I think his big thing is, if I am going to come back, I want my guys who I love here. And if the Packers have a different idea about that with some of these guys who are getting a little bit older and who they need to fairly compensate, that might be a rubber meet the road kind of thing, but I think they envision next year with Rodgers at quarterback. I'm on the same page, and we know you get a lot of lip service in business when you commit that kind of money to somebody like you want the motherfucker there.

It's not like he fell off a cliff this year. It wasn't an MVP year. He had a lot of moving parts into your point. These guys are going to be a year older.

Christian Watson was a legit dude at the end of the season. You mentioned a bunch of guys who like back. I can see these guys right back compete for that. All right, here we go.

Watching Wales. Getting back to it. Financially, it looks like how we back. Trying to find a football at him.

Retardy practice. That'd be sweet. I'd like you to do that. Very human.

I'm going to pick all balls in a blowhole. Yeah, no, Wales play Jack. Sounds like a piece. Somebody's going to be pissed.

He could, though. I saw him with Bud Light game in Tahoe from Balcony to Jet Ski. What? Chuck, that was.

What? Yeah, Jet Ski. I forget who it was. I think it was Ryan.

Yeah, one of them banged right up his head and knocked him out. No, it was your brother. The guy that beats up Lake Tahoe every morning. It was Foxy with Glass's chest.

Oh! I mean, Paul Downs is coming from a long way. It was unbelievable. It was a fucking...

This was fresh out of Hungary. I think he just got back from Hungary. Obviously, he brought his pads with him just like Russell Wilson did DeBronico. So his arm was in mid-season form.

He was already dialed in. Slepting his shoulder pads a couple nights. Yeah, Tahoe. Camp was coming up and he came down to eat breakfast and he still had his shoulder pads on.

He gets his Bud Light Can and it's fucking just casual. Hey, yo! Like I have a movie. It felt like it was a fucking movie.

You've got this MVP hippie fucking quarterback up here on top of this balcony here. Out of nowhere. He'd been gone, I think, for a few minutes. We're kind of just joining the Hey Yo Happens turn.

Okay, it's Aaron Rodgers. Holy fuck. And then... Holy shit.

And then Jetsky grabbed up the beer can. I think your brother jumped off Jetsky, grabbed it, and then gets up, obviously drinks it. And I'm like, he just threw a fucking Bud Light Can further than I've ever seen a can through in my life. And that led into a conversation about, like, there was that story about him being bad at beer pong.

Remember? I don't believe it. I assume Darts, he's a fucking... Has he always been that way, you think?

Is he just always... Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, he probably will see this clip even though he'll say he won't. But yeah, he's good at all those things. He's a very...

Not even, like, undercover athlete. He's a stud athlete. Whatever you play, he's going to be really good at it. But I feel like throwing shit, he has an ability that...

I assume baseball, he would have been a fucking... Oh, yeah, I think baseball... AJ would probably know, but I think baseball was his... I mean, he told a son, he was like, that was his sport in high school, you know, and then one of his coaches or something, maybe like, I don't know, I can't remember what it was exactly, but he was like, all right, I'm going to commit football.

Whoa, there's a lot. Is that real? I think he said something along the lines of that. All right, I'm going to go over here then.

Fuck you. I think there's a jukele. We got a clip of it. Casey, the man who makes the TikToks, he found a clip, I think, of Aaron from me, the jukele in high school.

You should fucking see this, dude. Just so old school. Just big ass pads. His pads are huge.

It looks like it's from fucking 1990s. He's old, dude. This guy's old. He's been in the NFL a long time.

Nobody, you don't think about that because Tom Brady is the conversation because he is. He's fucking old, too. Not in real life. Obviously, he's going to live a long time.

When you talk about a locker room with 23-year-olds, 23-year-olds, we're talking about the age of these quarterbacks in the playoffs right now. Brock Perry, obviously, younger than Stetson fucking Bennett. Joey Burrow's a young man. Lamar's still a young guy.

He's about to get paid somewhere. He's going to be in this whole thing. Literally, even the older generation, Josh Allen, the older generation right now is young. It is a nice little new era, it feels like, of the NFL.

And these playoffs are a perfect kind of depiction of it. But the old dogs ain't going to just go away quietly. I don't think that's the case, AJ. What year is Pat Mahomes in?

Look at this fucking guy. Boom. Bang. Is that Chico State?

Is that college? Is that Cowboys? Who's that? You should have seen me say that.

The guy from Yellowstone? Just a guy that was tipping a cat. Tick a cat bull. He's got a big time win.

First time since I'm sorry. They deserve it. I'm not like diehard cut. Is this him a Chico?

Break that tackle. Come on, man. I got that right. Jeez.

Pump fake. Turns. Seam. We lost his own.

The dude who cut it out, run people to some moment and goes on over top. It's become uncomfortable to wear those old school girls with their hip and butt. Is that Jordy? Is that fucking Jordy Nelson?

Another play in Chico. Is this where JB coached him? Oh, what was that? Oh, did he grab a dab on him?

Was it dab or did he grab a dab? I'm surprised. And Penn is a dog. You don't fucking play a five-dollar tennis.

Gotta find out. It's gotta be Cole Beasley. It's next time to find out who's tennis. Is that Jordan?

Sort of. That might be too bad. They only had three numbers. They were like, obviously Aaron, and then we got 12, 88, and 45.

We gotta look out for it. That's 10. This guy. Of course.

This guy went for 10,000 yards in one season. It's passed out the whole way. Give the ball to the 45 again. 54 don't have a chance.

He can't be giving it to the 45. 10 is wide open. Five. Just came into the league.

Where's he at? Five. 45 was hurt early in the year. He got healthy halfway through.

So this is high school. High school? This is Pleasant Valley High School. Who's number 10?

Oh, dude. This dude was a dog. He didn't go to Chico State. This guy's awesome.

Oh, the 45. Where's he at? Right there with all the stickers on his helmet. Is that an airplane wide receiver?

Oh, no. Is it an all-star game or something? We're just stealing people's footage right now. We do apologize.

I assume you'll take a long time. That's 10. That's 10. Gotta be 10.

Those earrings. Dog. Is he a movie star now? Is that a perfect drop?

Is that 10? Yeah. You can tell. You can tell.

Nope. 87 for Wolverine football? All right. That's been good forever.

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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the fallout from Aaron Rodgers’ comments yesterday on the show, if they think he’ll be back with the Packers next year, what it means for the Packers moving forward, and they dive...

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