PMS 2.0 879 - Men's National Championship Recap, Daniel Jeremiah, Darius Butler, Mike Greenberg, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk episode artwork

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PMS 2.0 879 - Men's National Championship Recap, Daniel Jeremiah, Darius Butler, Mike Greenberg, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

from The Pat McAfee Show · host Pat McAfee, ESPN

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about UCONN winning the Men’s National Championship, the state of NIL in college sports and how that’s going to change everything, all the different Lamar Jackson rumors along with everything else going on in the NFL right now. Joining the progrum to chat about the upcoming NFL Draft and his thoughts on how things will shake out is former NFL Scout and Lead Draft Analyst for NFL Network, Move The Sticks, Daniel Jeremiah (21:49-39:19). Next, 9 year NFL veteran at Defensive Back, host of the Man-To-Man Podcast, and friend of the show, Darius Butler joins the progrum to chat about his alma mater winning a National Championship, his thoughts on the Lamar Jackson situation, who he wants the Colts to draft, and his thoughts on the NFL as a whole as we approach the draft (1:17:04-1:52:37). Later, member of 2 different Hall of Fames, host of Get Up!, author, and friend of the show, Mike Greenberg joins the progrum to chat about his new book, his thoughts on the Jets/Aaron Rodgers situation, how he’s doing post heart procedure, and much more (1:52:39-2:33:31).Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello beautiful people welcome to our humble little better the thunder them on this oh my god Yukon our national champions again Wednesday Tuesday before we start out my Apologize for messing that up. I'm so excited for the fine folks that you con who decided to write and tear the entire university down I guess a lot of videos coming out there that are a bit alarming and I assume there was some alcoholic beverages among other things being PORTATE throughout the evening up there in Yukon But the fact that they dominated in the national championship now that's two national championships I told you said in their biggest of three sports or whatever That have been complete blowouts and now it did become a little bit of a game whenever San Diego State Displayed that incredible mental toughness and grit to get it back to like six I believe in the second half and they wanted to have it down to six by the ten minute mark I think it was after the ten minute mark nonetheless They fought a little bit there was a couple times for Yukon go knit a shot There was a like a stretch like four minutes where neither team mention it was ugly basketball Especially in comparison to the women's game that happened on Sunday where I was used for 101 fucking points Yeah, or something like that incredibly dominant performance by Yukon from start to finish pretty much whenever they found What they needed to do to win games they executed perfectly whenever it mattered the absolute most Reese Davis knows you can't go He also said what's he over on that thing 132 and a half? I'd say no Maybe a dash over that and up being like 134 135 or something like that his big-ass brain kind of carried us through a lot of big-time Bets for this March Madness the one shining moment goes back to the Huskies for the fifth time since 1995 most in the country Congratulations, and I hope you ends when you fix the glass up there the broken windows Mm-hmm, you know repair probably some hosseas Yeah, huh? Tachus like that.

Hope you get a chance to truly enjoy this not normal for school like Yukon no fence Yukon It's a whole new world whenever it comes to the sports Landscape a lot of money going to places a lot of big-name schools doing their thing so the fact that Yukon especially without terrible their football team has been Yeah, is back in the sports relevance world so happy for them. I hope they enjoy this for an entire spring way to go The toxic tables here at Boston Conner at Tash made one half of the hammer Yeah, cowboys 10 Dixes here and back on stage a 14 year NFL corner We'd never step foot into the nickel or safety position. No, he's on an island. He ran a four two eight Gentlemen I'm back major Back up to old school big E's obviously Yukon was in there in the basketball big E's has always been something that has been heralded His great tradition, but I'm happy that the old school big E's football conference They used to be dominant.

Hey, we had dogs in the big E's conference You go back and just look through what the highlights were if they were able to figure out the fucking business that everybody else was seemingly able to figure out I think the big E's football could have been and should have been continuing to go But everybody left one to other conferences big 10 big 12 somehow if you're on the East Coast doesn't make a lot of sense But I'm happy Yukon's back in there congrats about Huskies on a dominant performance. Yeah, congratulations, man That's pretty good You know, they're really talked about his lucky draws that he wore the whole NCA double a tournament So I guess the dirty draws worked Congrats to him and the team hey, he was a good guy to get to learn about you Now obviously remember him as a player and his son I believe was one that dribbled out the final second of the game actually got a rebound Mm-hmm snagged it's that she and then he as soon as he got the ball struck zero. I was interested I'm like is this guy yeah, yeah hold on to this ball gonna right up the jersey You know the season basketball family right obviously he knows the deal here He had the ball whenever the fifth night he was one for Yukon his dad's the coach there soon as I think it's zero He spiked that fucker so far boy Oh, well, I'll be up in the sky and then they kind of lost their mind as they should but that early family of basketball The dad was a high school basketball that didn't obviously him now the Sun and I don't know what they said Jim Nance gave his last That was not a gym. We're off runs in your name.

We're all let's go. We're lucky to be your friend Jim Hey, Jim. We're lucky to be your friend I don't know what they said exactly but that guy look like he's a future basketball coach I was playing and obviously got to rebound to win in that You know as the clock struck zero this dude had the ball in his hands He's gonna be coach just a fun story kind of learn about all together and fucking Bruce Brown hit big on the car Yeah, Bruce Brown went in 10 grand last night and he almost It was an awesome tournament though I mean I feel like you call with one of those teams that everyone's hyping up and you know beginning and then you kind of think Okay, if everyone's on them, then they're gonna fall out Is that real I didn't know about that until the middle when Reeves came on program and said hey You can't have the chance to dare you to ask them a question Yeah, cuz I literally had no idea that they were even around or existed they were real deal that yeah Yeah, because Reese had the reason I said this because Reese had Bama versus you con in his you know He knew but I thought it was just because he was Connecticut fuck up there I didn't ask me in person I didn't know that was a national narrative because once again March Madness is when basketball season starts for me Yes, exactly and I'm not happy about that. Okay, I need to pay attention more especially if the games are the way they are I need to pay attention more to the women college basketball going forward I think as well.

I don't know how easy to find those games, but me and Pack were talking was Virginia's gonna get Caitlin Clark What's you know what I mean? There has to be a number that we should do it. Yeah, I do it. I have what's that billy There's not yeah, yeah, exactly what's your sign over the university tour?

I mean that's maybe you just call it Caitlin Clark University She said you know that's what I'm talking about back. Listen, I bought this up to Ty yesterday He has not been thrown but every time I brought it up. It's the same reaction. He's like no don't even I'm like hey There's a number potentially that could go is always a number and I will reach that numbers Why she said in tweet yesterday to you like she's glad that she could put on for the state of Iowa She always tell me I she's coming back But yeah, I mean we were talking about this after the show yesterday like she will be the highest paid athlete at the University of Iowa Next year, which is kind of crazy to think about but also very deserving.

Yeah valid cuz she is an eye Yeah, yeah, so much. Yeah, she is an eye when Caitlin Clark's tweet Thank you to all who have supported us on this magical run. I'm lucky to wear a high wall across my chest and represent our state That's a big word there unless it was you know cuz you're you're you're gonna drop the wide I know that she didn't I love these girls to death and cannot be more proud of all we accomplished this season go Hawks always Whoa that last word also big air. Yeah cuz in the brain hands right afterwards with the baby bird.

Is that a hunk? Yeah, well, that's what you have to use. There's not a really a hawk emoji Yeah, I mean so She is she is the most popular athlete on their campus in the state of Iowa like so she's gonna be she's gonna be high v spokesperson right for sure Hi, V spoke that's what I want what else round up. I think he's out of Iowa.

Yeah, I think round up Yeah pioneer like there's like there's places where if they really want to because she is like she has the chance to like kind of make Them like a national brand moving forward like that's what you know, I mean she could make Iowa like a destination for girls basketball Like there's no way they could let her go. Okay. Well, somebody's gonna try someone sure sure think about Ohio State man Just think about what Ohio State could potentially offer really any other big school but West Virginia Relax, sorry, I'm just being honest. I don't want you to get your hopes out here and then for her not to go there Well, almost heaven probably is a nicer scenery.

I was saying fucking out. No, absolutely not. You've definitely never been in the campus I was I was that he's beautiful, but who's the last person that was the biggest she is right now in basketball or in Iowa basketball You could be middle of female I was or just in general. Yeah, which one oh Keegan Murray was a top-out pick in the NBA draft.

I don't think he's a big skin clerk. No, definitely not And that's kind of like that's a national promise. Yeah in terms of nationally like no. Yeah, Iowa hasn't had someone like Also, you know, welcome to the team.

That's pretty much they can be 18 to yeah, we know no pro sports teams Yeah, I was Virginia since then yeah beautiful Lakers. Oh the views Money in there now, I don't know what's got money as well. I was going money as well So this is what West Virginia's thinking you know, and I'm not necessarily directly tied to the women's basketball team there I think I heard new coach congrats. Yeah nice.

Who is that? It's not Neil Brown's okay No, browns about the boys climbing. We're about to get no more tag out of Ohio Blaine's door to a crew no Blaine's door to a crew no brother to me and back I would assume that if Blaine is in the conversation Blaine's gonna win he only coach for the Steelers for like seven years He's a dog absolute a West Virginia's all the way back. We're gonna bring taking part okay in Morgan town and then guess who else?

Angel Reese, you know that whole thing that everybody was just talking about a couple days ago where they were like oh Who's done that we're gonna buy a big big big big but your shorts down Mark Flakes six all time when six all time winning coaching some league somewhere. I read it on a internet report That's what it's fucking that is sweet. Yeah, you're dog. Do you just fucking mark?

Hello, okay, that is what you laughing about that's him. I'm not disputing that I'm not this is actually like when I saw this now I'm kind of like you know slinking down in my seat a little bit less Virginia has money right now, bro That's what we're trying to say really Pacman has kind of explained to me how things because he has you know a lot closer to Situation than I have been even though somebody hand delivered us letters from Morgantown Oh, we broke into the broken into the place to do something what I think hello's a dog. Yes He's a dog. I read an internet report.

This guy's a dog So the West Virginia has access to money and this is um as a senile thing goes like this is what's gonna happen Not the West Virginia was irrelevant kind of though It had pretty come pretty irrelevant You know I think that's gonna happen and that's gonna happen when you go to big 12 in a big 12 has like all this tradition in history So they're obviously gonna market those schools and if you're not winning in those things They're not gonna take time to like push your school now So West Virginia in big 12. I don't think it's been a good fit at all personally outside looking in nobody over there travel marketing Exposure everything. I just don't know if it has been necessarily a good move But I do know we are and I'll come in we got money now Yeah, we got money and we got a new ad mr. Baker is I had a chance to meet him when I was there unbelievable guy And talked about the different things that we're trying to do to get top So not David make a rent backer.

Oh, we got some big money on every No, you gotta pay for the only school though. You gotta pay to play. Yeah, I know how do you know I just think this year with all the stuff that I've learned the last month and a half two months We're rounding up funds to pay the plate. So that's good.

I like that a lot. You know cuz the schools that are in Damn That's why he brought his a dog Yeah, I just record was up there that guy fucking doesn't lose. He does win. Yeah, welcome to team Caitlin Come on in waters.

Just fine. I'll know those head I Raking rapids. We don't want a basketball leading in the March madness. So whenever I saw the Yukon wasn't ranked what they were gonna top three See bingo so I just assume like okay, this team stinks I guess they go through a drought period in the middle of the season and it kind of fucks up their record where the team much better Than what the numbers are saying and I think they all kind of knew that if you listen to the post game interviews They all just believing we knew it Hurley talk about knowing it that team seemed like a blast quick question about the celebration ceremony afterwards Okay, I represent the NCAA there.

Yeah, who actually at one point how does jaw on Jim Nance's shoulder? This is a real deal as Jim Nance's interviewing Hurley and you see Jim Nance actually go Why the fuck is this guy he's standing on top of me this guy? I never heard of this guy obviously represent the answer to blaze when I gave it to a trophy Not a bad promo that was a pretty good promo awkward spot whenever they bring in the after this is the president. Oh boom Oh, you used to speaking in front of 50,000 people now I speak from my company once a year Of course I'll be able to do this and I would like to grab Jules you do it so pretty good promo I don't know if the guy got wrapped up in Jim Nance's microphone or not whenever they did the microphone pass off This guy was standing on top of Jim Nance the camera person actually had to zoom in so tight on Nance and Hurley because there was a guy Leering over Jim Nance's shoulder on this stage.

This is this is happened last night. That was late I stayed up for the whole thing. I might have been a little bit tired I might have been on some vitamins, but it was one of the most uncomfortable Ceremonies I have ever watched in my entire life every photo and shot had this guy's back or head in the middle of it all Of course, I think he was wrapped up in a microphone cable though That is kind of what it seemed like as if it was a three-legged potato sack race with him and Jim Nance her that is what it look like As I was watching a vote so if we get some answers on that publicly that'd be great But listening to them all speak what a veteran sounding crew And also a very coughing crew that kind of knew exactly what the fuck they were gonna do when they got to the tournament and they killed everybody Yeah, absolutely and they were they were ranked number one like earlier in the year and then they did they kind of had that like mid-season Swoon, but they were one yeah like so they were good I mean you see like they have a bunch of NBA talent So it was kind of just like a matter of time where if they could put it together and they were one of the hottest teams going into The tournament so it kind of made sense of game overall kind of stunk, you know it it it could have been a lot better I guess and that's what I think a lot of people are arguing about is like, you know, San Diego State like why you know It's nice that they had Cinderella all that bullshit But then you know if we get like a really talented team Then we actually don't want to go to bed by the time like the second half starting in terms of the guy from the NCA I'm almost positive this guy just realized hey This is Jim Nance's last final for all these pictures and like the camera like I need to be in all these pictures Because this is a moment that's gonna last forever dude his his chin on Nancy's shoulder. Yeah whisper No, like he I think he was doing the moment I think I think he was trying to get the microphone Why I think it was a microphone wire was wrapped around okay I honestly believe that that was the case and at one point he reached down to try to get it off of his leg And his chin was on Jim Nance's shoulder while he was doing an interview this way and Jim Nance actually even does like one of these like what Shoulder roll getting a fucking moment.

I got his kind of what Jim Nance it visually We wouldn't be able to show it on here But you should find that image on the on the internet somewhere that was uncomfortable to watch Yeah, well I mean if you were to the NCAA are we sure he's not just a huge mark in Jim Nance said that they're friends and then this guy They go fuck I'm friends with Jim Nance Fascinating future to with what we were talking about with the NIO money and how everything's going if women's college basketball becomes What it could become with the stars that they have no offense of WNBA But I think oh yes like college the women's college basketball seems to be the premier National we have the fever here. They're gonna fucking win it all okay. So bringing an esco I'm gonna buy her shoes Yeah, but I wish like they could play almost in the tournament I was wish that they could play back in the tournament because how much the world was paying attention to 9.9 million viewers on the file That is bananas angels back Caitlin's back. I said there it is chin on God.

I told you chins on good chins on him Look at that. Look at that You might have just been sleepy. It was late. You might just be trying to get the wire off of it I think it was trying to get look at Jim.

No, what the fuck dude Sorry, we're gonna get struck for this today's show is not gonna be able to live but that guy I mean that was a scene Interesting. Oh my god. Is he like reaching behind him to like give a player a high five? No, I think he's trying to get I can't say this I think he was like reaching He got it sounds like he the guy wrestling Got tangled up in the microphone wire and it was like he said reaching down to try to untangle himself But in the process was literally sleeping on answer short.

Okay, it was a scene bro. I almost I mean It might have been so I well my wife and I went to Michigan last night, right and kind of stayed the night of the night Got a little place on the lake the weather is getting nicer. You know beautiful wasn't it? I was pretty high.

I was rather high while I was watching legal in Michigan I'm just like take the trip to do that and I just I was like is that no way there's a guy on Rewind me out. I gotta be high. There's no way that's No way that's on Jim Nihan. Yeah in his last last time before this guy's doing and then they showed an aerial shot at the stage A lot of room.

Oh, yeah, a lot of room available because I was one of the basketball teams are but back to the NIL stuff There's gonna be teams that have money that are gonna be able to do their thing I think college basketball is gonna continue to be very exciting Restate was there's over a thousand people in the transfer portal in men's college basketball Yeah, I mean teams have what 25 people on them 20 people on just about 15 probably guys. I'm like that well I got people that probably don't trust Yeah, yeah, you just practice you would assume four or five six every recruiting years 30 whole team Yeah, I'm gonna say guys that's probably getting ready to show it the guys that are not planned is unpracted squad You know, I mean that's eight kids a class that makes sense. Yeah, like 25 whatever it is however many people there are in there That's not a lot of spots So I think teams could recruit like almost bunches and be like we need three guys kind of come in and you can get a brand New team that can go every single year and it feels like the superstars know that they're they can get going because Angel reef said her Instagram followers went from 450,000 to 1.1 million and she said the price just went up. Yeah, yeah They're all business minded too.

They all understand it completely I think college basketball is gonna get better with this all NIL stuff. I totally agree on Looker name on Jay Carson She was at West Virginia last year and goes to LSU and you see what happened 21 right? Yeah, you know winning the championship So I think I don't know if I like the transport portal. I mean portal because So now we have got a high money to go there.

Yeah, it's like on up Yeah, it's there's certainly long-term effects from the whole thing that are not being calculated or talked about like having to do a little bit of adversity And get through some shit is certainly something that will help you down the road and probably in your particular sport So I think the big conversation about the transfer portal is are people just running away from a tough situation to go somewhere else And it's like hey in the real world you can't just fucking get up and bounce like you got to be able to handle some shit in the good And the bad it's gonna make you a better athlete Player at your sport and human in society and I don't know if they're judging that has potential ripple effects Anybody's talking about that but I think that's a big deal But on the flip side what's your name's got money fucking get in that change report If you're good and we can get you in the morning down West Virginia Well, it probably won't happen on the women's side because usually the teams with the more talent like winning the tournament But you hope and Reese kind of mentioned this yesterday Like there's a chance that it kind of kills like all the mid majors and Cinderella's because you get the best player on their team Like after their junior year, whatever and you know player of their conference and whatever mid major conference He's like alright fuck this I'm gonna go to the big ten or I'm gonna go to the SEC I'm gonna go to the ACC so you hope that doesn't happen because then it kind of does like they're not gonna be a whole lot of Upsets if that does happen well interesting because the coaches normally the people that are able to do that They just leave the major go to a big goal and then they got to turn over to the other place But if it's a new mid major go on I mean Cindy Agustace just went not that they're a mid major FA you just went and might they all might be a new squad But hopefully somebody will be able to go joining us now is from a completely different sport and completely different aspect But a massive fucking break. Oh, yeah, it is this guy's season right now We're in the middle of the draft season and scout season and this guy is not only a scout But he is the lead draft expert for NFL Network he sits right next to the rich eyes in for 45 hours a day At the combine giving his takes on every single player He's watching on from every single school in America who knows how he's able to accomplish it host of the move of his Sticks podcast ladies and gentlemen from NFL Network Damn dream I Man, what's up? How you doing? I by the way, I saw pack there so I gotta give you my quick Pac-Man story For when he was coming out sounds with the Ravens He actually I believe ended up as the number one player on our board Like we we loved him and Aussie Newsom loved him and when we brought him into our combine interview It was one of the all-time answers to a question So one of the coaches asked him how would you grade your hands on a scale of one to ten and pack looked at his left Hand and said ten and they looked at his right hand said ten he created him individually So you got a 20 Keep up you have a different grading scale back here legend always happen.

How would you? Heard at the combine and we just heard the story. I don't think we were paying attention close enough at the time He the 225 thing he did it one time approved everybody could do it And he said all right fucking this ain't I just wanna let you know I can if I wanted to I don't know how many I could Because I'm never gonna try it. I don't need it.

What it would be nice run for two eight huh four two eight oh man So good man. He was so good. You should see him pickleball All right, let's dive into some stuff we appreciate that story We appreciate you to pack man Jones your fucking legend ball. Oh, yeah a fucking legend dude move the sticks Let's the story of the week I guess when he came to draft thing is Jalen Carter is only meeting with top 10 draft pick teams or whatever the case is and that is Allegedly drew Rosenhouse idea or his idea how's that coming out?

Should he not because he's like one of the first people that I recall that got arrested at the combine then at the pro day a couple weeks later, he didn't look his best I mean I assume he would think the same thing if you watch his film isn't there a chance you should maybe meet with a lot of People to see if somebody maybe wants to trade in to the top 10 to come get him or is this just standard operating procedure? And it's what people normally do I think normally when the decisions like this get made it's because you have a backstop, you know Like there's somebody that's given you assurances that like this is where the slide ends you're not getting past us And you can trust that information now I don't know who that is But I'm guessing just by looking at all the factors involved that the Philadelphia Eagles having Jordan Davis a teammate of his having the Kobe Dean That team made of his being a team that's that's pass rush obsessed, you know They picked ten so that when I heard that he wasn't meeting teams outside of ten I'm like he's got a backstop somewhere in the top ten and you know the Eagles would be my educated guess on that one Okay, because as soon as I saw him like what I just fucking do it. This is just a part of the deal Especially if you're having a rest, but he is a player huh guys player that guy is everything that they can't know There's nobody better. Yeah, he's the best he's the best talent to draft like if he's if he had a clean process He would he would have been my number one player.

Okay, so let's talk about your number one player And let's talk about the top five picks of the draft because that's literally all we talk about into a draft spectacular night When we have to learn about a lot more people you allegedly this is a few weeks back I don't know if you have a new one we might have missed it You have Bryce y'all go number one overall you have CJ Shroud to will Anderson Anthony Richardson Jalen Carter at five You just called the number one talent in the draft do you still stick by that at this stage or is anything changed? And what are your thoughts on potential movement in the draft up there? Yeah, I don't I don't do trades in mock drafts this early and that you know one tree kind of shakes the whole thing up I think there's a if I was gonna say what's most likely to happen I would say the four quarterbacks are gone and top seven picks You know when it's all said and done I think that will have us ends up in there somewhere You know the Raiders would be a team at seven that I keep an eye on so you know I think we'll see I think there's a good chance we see a trade at three I don't know who that team would be I just know when you look at the Cardinals roster It's pretty bad So they're not one player away If you can get resources go back as far as you can get as much help as you can because they have such a long way to go And I think you could look at you know Just look at who's doing their work on these quarterbacks and that tells you who the candidates are to potentially go up there And get one who would that be because I know the Colts are working out Bryce and CJ Stradd who are both at are they at QB summit with Jordan? Who are they?

Yeah, they're out with Beck and those guys with Tom Halisick I think it's 3D QB And so the coach is this normal coaches fly in there and get a workout about them But that would mean they would have to trade up right because everybody kind of has Bryce and CJ going one and two And we're sitting at four Well, I think you obviously if you're picking up that high if you're picking in the top five You're gonna do your homework on you know any of the potential scenarios of who those guys are so you know Even though it's not likely that they would see one of the top two guys You know those guys are gonna be willing to work out for you because where you're picking and go in there and get your homework Done, I think that's smart But I don't think they can get up to get one of those two I think they're gonna be fishing any other pond where you're talking about you know Richardson and Levis however you prefer those those guys where they are whether they get the three or they stick it for you Like Anthony Richardson over Levis did you see the new photos of Levis though? Yeah? Yeah, you know yeah, he was on Swell Patrol I would have been nice if the after was the before and the before was the after like I'd rather have my quarterback be a little More limber a little more loose if you kind of go through the role decks of the super muscle that quarterbacks That's not a great list. So, you know, I think maybe a do over there I think it shows what kind of incredible work ethic he has that's not a bad thing about over blow it is not commitment as well But yeah, but just it's not necessary.

Yeah, a lot of bad body quarterbacks You know what I mean? Oh my gosh and also a lot of bad body shooters You know and a lot of like golfers, you know like anything where you got a where you have to just kind of be flowing not to do Andrew luck was jock though. You know what I mean? He was yeah, no, there's a couple But most of them it's what is the word elasticity you want some elasticity there?

Oh liability you're talking about liability That's the word I was searching for like to be able to do like a backflip off the top turnbuckle like that's pliability there That's what that is hey move the sticks. I'll move the needle a little bit down I Know I'll say this to you and we don't have a lot of time with you Like it's a lot shit going on so it's kind of a waste of your time But since you brought it up, but he's fascinating. I had not been in a ring since summer slam, you know So I'm not just walking around doing backflips So that was a certain track this that well that's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, that's a Feel real good.

Feel real good. Yeah, yeah I'm looking at that too and like as a scout you're always trying to let your you can't help but you end up evaluating everything I was looking at your foot where I'm like I think he's wearing like Jordan's like how is that like that's not an easy? That's not like something that's just like stuck to your foot like it's like one piece there That's like a real regular shoe that you're doing all this stuff. Yeah, thank you.

Well, I mean I don't know if Michael Jordan would appreciate the fact He said it's a real regular shoe, but I do hear what you're saying. Yeah, I do understand what you're saying You don't have like a wrestling boot. That's like, you know a piece of your foot like this is like you know Just like you're just like the you know the the nice shoe wearing gentlemen who's out there doing incredible things if I happened upon an Nice shoe wearing gentlemen. I would say there's some good shoes there sir I understand what you're saying.

I appreciate the draft evaluation if you would like to break down that whole match You can give me your thoughts. I would think that would be hilarious conners a question for you Yeah, Danny You kind of go throw into the fire yesterday because you basically said and nobody reported that the Titans We're gonna move up to three Is that the case with a lot of these teams that they're gonna wait and then right before the draft or even day of draft? You think that they'll move up to three and if it is the Titans are the colds kind of screwed because the two other teams in the AFC South are going after their quarterback and the Colts might miss out I'm glad you asked me this question because I just hopped on social media yesterday And it was like like one Titans question after another like what the heck is going on And I literally said on our podcast with Bucky We were talking about you know quarterbacks and you know where the Cardinals I think should trade it three I'm like yeah What we just said they think they should get out and I said in talking to a couple GM's that it can make the pro day circuit They said man the Titans are doing a ton of work on these on these quarterbacks like almost too much work on these quarterbacks I wouldn't oh the team that could move up like so I Wouldn't literally I wouldn't sleep on them as a potential team that move up So it gets picked up by some internet source with the quotes and then all of a sudden starts getting picked up everywhere else And the quotes disappear and then it turns into you know I'm reporting that they are actively you know trying to get to number three So it was that kind of took on a life of its own and then I got a text from somebody in Nashville It said hey a local paper just confirmed your report I'm like I don't know how you confirm a report that wasn't report but maybe we stumbled upon something mr Jeremiah hey This is the internet bro This is how it goes like but clips get clipped like in half and then share and then that just becomes the truth Do and it's like I want to combat this or not that's uh that's become my life almost it's a fun time lucky to be here But that is kind of the internet in a nutshell, but could it also be you know cuz Colts are there at four Texans up there too So having the Titans floated that they could potentially want to get ahead of the Colts good business from Arizona, too You know I mean that's not that's good business from Arizona up the leverage of what that pick is because the AFC South would potentially be Two through four and Colts would be dead last in that old thing And I can make a strong argument for why Tennessee should and I think sometimes people look at these trades And they don't they don't totally get it and that it's not just your trading You know future first round picks for one player and whatever quarterback you would get it three You're also getting cap flexibility in cap room So if you look at the Niners and people will say gosh they traded those future picks And they went up there and got Trey Lance and man what a terrible trade they have Trey Lance the other team got the picks I'm like well No, that allowed them with what they've done with Trey and now with with perdy that they have such a cheap quarterback room That they can go sign Jibon hard grave. So if you look at it is not just I'm getting one player I'm getting a player in a crap ton of room.

It's 10 hills like 36 and a half and quarterback at number three It's it's gonna be I think around seven million of a cap it So you got all of a sudden you got 30 million bucks you can go shopping with and ran cars on you know Brand new down there, you know, Tana Hill was not his quarterback that he had a vision of starting a team with and everything like that Wouldn't be fascinating could be true could not be true, you know, who knows? Pacman has a question for you. I got a two part question for you right here to me No, if he don't get hurt we will be talking about him a lot more. Do you think he helped yourself?

Doing the Scatman combined we running fast and doing what he did my second question have the prototype for cornerback Thanks to all these guys the top 10 guys right now all six one to six two six three is no five ten five nine guys anymore Yeah, good ones I would say first of all no one I'm with you on that he didn't get a chance play the whole year But you saw when you run four three nine is an edge restaurant and jump 40 inches And then you look at Hassan retic and basically the same body who's gone out in second the league and sacks There's your you know, there's kind of your vision for what he can do what he can be he's a mathematician He's a fucking near yeah, he's freaking smart. He's freaking smart and he's a great leader kid Like he checks all those boxes. So if you had been healthy through the process I think he'd have been a lock as a top 10 pick I think he's still gonna go in the top 15 top 20 worst worst case scenario And then when it comes to the corners like to me there's two guys in this draft that aren't prototypes You know aren't the everything you want in terms of the size But I think that whether spoon from Illinois is the best corner in the draft, you know who's not he's not he's obviously sub six foot He's like 180 pounds. He's undersized But I think he's the best one and then there's a kid of manual Forbes at Mississippi State who I've never seen a guy with his body Like he's he's a hundred and sixty six pounds, but he's over six foot He ran the four threes he got the best ball skills in the draft So you got two guys who don't fit all those dimensions that you're looking for but I think they're two of the best players You would have been a slot, but slot and No more rhythmly I play outside Excuse me He actually did yeah, actually did turn her obviously played by her running back corner in just never safety though No, no, put me on the outside.

I'll handle it. So as last question for you here I appreciate you your guy number 10 Lucas Van Ness a lot of talk about him. Yeah, I love Is there worries like he didn't start and I was there like is there talk about that he's just an athletic freak Yeah, that's you know, that's a question I think teams have dug into and I've done it as well and it turns out I mean Iowa, it's just a program where they're gonna play the older guys. They're gonna start the older guys It's part of their culture that they do that even though this kid was the best player on the defense He played the majority of the snaps.

He just didn't go out there with the starters because that's just kind of you know That's their culture of how they've done it But the guys know they got in four five eight at like 270 something pounds. He's got sack production. He can play inside You can play outside, you know, he's got the same body in the intestine exactly the same as for Sean Gary So if you're looking for somebody that kind of moves like him, that's that's that's who it was I think Gary tore his ACL last year because off to a pretty good start and you know I think he's not there yet It's not arrived, but you can look at all the talent that he has and you can see it in the future Who's somebody that we haven't talked about obviously because we're a bunch of stuj's that's probably gonna have a massive draft night Maybe pop out of nowhere Well, I still think to be John Robinson's the fascinating one, you know, the running back from Texas and we can you know We did I think when I was in there in studio you can debate whether you should take one or not take one to value the position He's my third highest rated player in the whole draft So if you're looking for somebody to come in having an incredible impact not only catching it but receiving it, you know Use the comparison to Edger and James so if you got a chance of taking Edger and James and you're gonna pass on him So you can take you know, you know a tackle a corner of a safety Whatever else you want to take who's just a much less player. I don't I don't agree with that I don't buy that even if you just say this is six years of great That's all sign up for six years of that dude.

Oh, yeah, that's like everybody. It's like well What's long-term such as look like for like that's a better something. It's like he could like 10 years is that Is it so see that last question because we know you have a minute ago. No stats in the move up You think where we think that's in there.

He's a winner, right and he's jocked and people like him Yeah, I mean everybody I talked to kind of has him in the mid rounds I think it's one of those deals when everybody says he's gonna go in the fourth round They like him in the fourth round all that means he's gonna go in the third round because if you wait to the fourth round You probably won't get him so I think third rounds private a sweet spot for him But yeah, I mean if you want somebody that runs around makes plays and plays well in the biggest moments That's a pretty good track record. He's assembled and we know his teammates like him Yeah, I have a good time with him. That's a big deal for leadership the brain thing Bryce young through the roof. Yeah Off the charts you put them into the tweet I read is yeah, Daniel Jeremiah accidentally leaks that Bryce Young's a smartest player in this draft.

I think that was a tweet I read is that actor important on it? Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure that's out there and exists somewhere I would say I would not refute that report that he's the smartest quarterback in this draft You're the man ladies and gentlemen Daniel Jeremiah Thank you DJ former quarterback at Apple Apples state they ran the ball I mean he's not the ball a little bit a little too much, but yeah What's that he leads his receiver a little too much if you guys remember correctly Pac-Man He tried to throw the ball in that net right over there with three holes in it Yeah, and he hit to the right of it five straight times same spot saying the ball turned over the exact same way bang bang bang Yeah, yeah, exactly or golf, you know when you're getting a little bit of a fade so when you do that Yeah, what you just kind of just kind of okay, I'm gonna turn it a little bit That might have been why Daniel didn't make the NFL might just a little bit of an adjustment. Yeah didn't make it certainly possible He's great fucking conversation. Yeah, he loves what he's doing You know what I mean that backstop conversation is a good one with Phil Delphi Eagles even though he hasn't taken Van Ness And then also he had them taking be John Robinson potentially because ten running back That's high I guess but another added weapon mouse sander isn't there the whole thing he has Van Ness in there I'll be I'll be intrigued for that Jalen Carter not visiting with anybody outside top ten is awesome Okay, I'm happy he's at a position where he feels like that is the right play in Rosenhouse's agent if you listen What he rap report said feels as if it's a okay decision to say you got a lot of trust that he's gonna go in the top ten or whatever But damn man come just easy It'd be like that it's so let's not I don't want people to think that it's negative because it's not your agent till you look at 11 I got to stop here at 6.

I think mine was seven like anything got the seven to eight It was no use of going single so they knew where you were yeah I don't think it's him as a person being arrogant and I'm not gonna see nobody after not that I was going I promise this is just the business like hey We know you're going here and if you don't there's massive problems We've been lied to by everybody pretty much you know that don't really happen though not when you in the top 10 You might slip one or two like you say he's the best player in the draft That's why I don't know the best player in the draft because Brecht Young's being compared to like Steph Curry of football Yeah, this guy's the guy and I'm going to be on these nowhere near what he is before the accident I mean the when he got in trouble He was gonna be the number one pick we was talking about because the bears still had that pick yeah Yeah, and they were not there and have their quarterback Yeah, they weren't taking a QB But it's a haven't still be that way after he didn't really do anything at the combine got arrested and looked like shit at the pro day Like that said why I think it's he's a player, huh? He's a whole guy as a player guys good football This is the whole be you can afford to beat that situation because we're watching from the outside in and obviously Georgia has had I think 11 guys from their defense over the last two years go and like the first like their defense has been unbelievable now In the NFL have they all transitioned? I would assume I have no idea I don't think I've kept up with it, but I would assume they've done well So Jalen Carter is just like almost another human in my mind like oh, it's just a Georgia defense player You got it going the most talented player in this draft is what Daniel Jeremiah called him And I remember watching him fly around on tape as we're following the Georgia Bulldogs all season But for all the shit to happen before he even gets an elite like this is before the NFL money comes This is before the NFL free time comes this is before all that so it's an unlike Settling almost thought to be like this guy has a lot of a lot of distraction with him right now now how Unfortunate was that event that happened the night of the brain so sad so Ridiculously sad I feel like there's probably a lot of terrible luck involved in that whole thing where other nights a potential goes another way instead The absolute worst catastrophe takes place and that's not only a part of his life personally with a friend and being in the moment But also from a legal standpoint got arrested during the combine like that is I believe I had to leave right take a mug Shocket, you know some people get arrested don't take mug shots and then they just gonna get let out Yeah, he got in there got arrested going back to the combine almost like it was a there was an interesting timing of the way it all went down But huge distraction potentially people could label him Jeremiah's like best player in the draft And we all know how the NFL is yeah, but like did he do something did he no is he no? Okay, well, he's still got a football He's future ahead of him hopefully it's a moment that'll change and learn from and be more careful about everything He does because he's a representative of our team of the NFL and this is profession That's what teams are gonna hope and I guess it 10 he's good I never get prepared for game day coming in this season They were talking about him and saying like he was the best on that Georgia defense last year the two years ago with the one that One the national championship and then you were at Tennessee Georgia, I believe and it was like his stats weren't great Whatever he was coming off an injury and stuff like that I was like I'm gonna pay attention to all game long I think it was the first play he he's sat in and hooker potentially for a First safety I think it was like it like took him one second to disrupt all of Tennessee's offense Oh, okay, he's a fuck D tackle to right in that position that is grown in importance as this game has evolved into a running game Again in a power game with that read so the middle of your defense the core of your D line has to be great It's good timing to be a great D tackle obviously and apparently he's one of them Yeah And you're my head I'm at 5 to Seattle But it'll be interesting to see what the Lions do if he's still there because allegedly, you know And DC has some interesting information on Jalen Carter and when you look at their previous drafts they build in the trenches So if they pass on them, then you wonder like okay, we have seen people just sit there.

Yeah, exactly But he's already Davis last year. He's a game changer. He's not sitting there long. He Yeah, he's a lot of him's out there.

Yeah, he's him with the I should say he's him a thing Everything you remind you of the AD I don't think it's footwork as good as AD but for his power move with hands He's the real deal bro. He can change he can take a defensive line That was a subpar defensive line and you can surround him with some good rushes and they can be one of the best defensive lines in the That's how good I think he is. He was Philly. Yeah, that would be very on-brand Philadelphia Eagles And it would be a perfect place for him to go to with friends a familiar face and Siri on he who seemingly has a great relationship with all This player saying hey listen what are my hobbies?

I just do football I'd like you to try to do the same if that would be great Let's continue to move that and when a when a super ball they were close up even Detroit You're pairing with Hutchinson and Detroit GM who was was in LA with the Rams like he he obviously knows what a great Detacle can do for like if you pair those two together, that's pretty good the line there Yeah, he falls to the Eagles known Smith. They're talking about you know obviously the engineer we brought him up He's best friends actually mentioned it Nicole B Dean was a linebacker at Philly So you wonder if the Kobe Dean maybe says hey look I was just with both these guys one of them I'm best friends with him You know he's an engineer in the other is Jalen Carter who's apparently the best player in the draft He was just in a pretty yeah, they could still I mean who knows that my trade back and I think it makes sense for the Eagles with Suleven, you know they lost two defensive linemen Just another That's too deep hard So they need someone to bring like this just seemed like a perfect thing someone you know how to go man You know what you got a ballpark range of where you going so jingling jeremy's as you heard roseth House confirmed that he would not be interviewed with anybody outside top 10 jeremy heard that was like oh the Eagles have told him Yeah, if you're available at 10, we're gonna take it congrats the Eagles and stuff like Carver's there something you guys gonna get a guy allegedly That's just what we've been told by somebody with knowledge on the situation Yeah, he also seems like the kind of guy who as we get closer to the draft like other teams are gonna bring up the character issues and Like if he is like smoke Yeah, exactly like trying to drive him as far back as they can because if he ends up going at you know eight nine or ten When they're saying even in a draft for you a lot of teams need quarterbacks It's like no this is the guy like if he had a clean bill of everything he would go number one So I wouldn't be surprised if we're gonna hear a lot of negative shit about him leading up to the draft Which is status quo. That is opress. Yeah Upper-anda Upper-anda upper-end eye I'm gonna go your accident happens though because that happened with me before the driver like damn Oh my whole path come up from school school And I even this funny story I fucking Acts and trail like out there everything out we got drafted and everything Oh, man Was you're using paying people to say bad shit about me because that was the word on the streets that agents pay different people that under their camp to say Different players that's pretty much in the same range again drafted or the same position because they want they got it They obviously go higher so they can get paid more what do you say?

He said no he said not that he know There's a chance I mean I'm beyond something they're saying shit about you from a straight I was wondering as well Okay, I'm saying hey who the hell is finding this information? I'd be somebody smart my agent is smart So I do not know he did not tell me that is the case But yeah teams also saying shit let alone agents of other players that are trying I mean there's so many potential enemies here Yeah, people that want you the worst in the most or sometimes the people that are saying the worst stuff about you to try Get you to their team. It's kind of a scumbag time of the year. Oh, yeah, yeah Projecting out of this is where all the lies come in this is lying season long.

I said it right in the middle of lying season right now Who knows that we were apart of Trent Dilfer told us we are prime suspects No, try prime candidates for people to feed us misinformation to make other people look bad and we're like targets. Thank you Trent Wait, that seems like kind of a shot. Whoa. I don't know if it was but this old draft season is all about that I couldn't fathom yelling through it as a human being like well another day woke up 14 what are we even talking about here's a different world with the Carolina coach still CJ Can't wait to play with you man.

Yeah, we can move to see Carolina. I want to know me to go to that I'm quite sure he told the other two quarters right here on well Josh probably leads off with amen I'm not the decisions way about my pay grade, but I would beat your ass in basketball Like if that's Josh McCown's conversation so then his out is when you get to Charlotte, man We'll find a court. We'll get after it I would like a lot of these young bucks now CJ and anybody else that he pretends Josh McCown is potentially challenging basketball when you get to Charlotte He's a real deal. It's not a this is not a this old white here with great phenomenal hair ugly Just isn't gonna have it anymore.

He's windmill dunking and celebrity game still Josh McCown Well, remember CJ on this show said he that he always talks to the high estate basketball players saying that he's better than all that too CJ like a game to me does sounds like a great game Josh. Come on. I want to fucking watch himself Maybe for the way it sounds like CJ strap. I don't know.

I've seen Josh's I like He's just at no defense. So Josh is just gonna fuck Josh. I mean what do we hear you know? I mean he's doing full full court press point picking them up.

Yeah, right for I mean if they're playing half-core He's fucking in his shorts. He's rolling the check rolling standing like this. Oh, you're trying a lot harder than me That's why I realize when somebody does that. I mean, I don't these five shots I'm about to take fall because I'm not playing in like what you're doing.

I know You don't want you don't want you give the ball up your fucked. Yeah, we have a guy gets ball He's giving so much more effort all of a sudden We've played we're playing defense for five minutes. There's a lot of fun. Who's trying to start Josh McCounty's friend Let's talk about this stuff going on before the wrap up hour one here the bright young smartest guy in the draft thing with him That was accidentally leaked allegedly from the internet report He said I will confirm that that is true and I'm sure you saw that I accidentally leaked it bright Sheng I guess is a mastermind when it comes to football anything be happy to get him maybe a cold So he is five to maybe maybe go the Ravens have officially offered Odell Beckham Jr.

Contract Allegedly, okay, okay, this is allegedly via the internet shifter. Okay, so shifter says that the Ravens and Lamar Jax or Odell Beckham Jr Even without Lamar Jax in situation being handled have met talked and they have made him an offer here Chef to yesterday I believe on NFL live 4 p.m. Eastern on ESPN The Baltimore Ravens have met with Odell Beckham Jr. They presented in their own offer.

We'll see which Odell Beckham Jr. Finds more interesting, but it certainly sounds like it's the Jets It's the Ravens maybe the Rams don't have an interest But those at this point in time would be the obvious landing spots for Odell Beckham Jr. What has been one of the longest free agent recruitment that we ever seen shot out to chef the NFL live crew over there I assume we'll get a strike for that as well as the NCAA guy putting his chin on Jim Nancy shoulder last night that we had to show Odell Beckham Jr. Go into the Ravens would be an interesting turn to this entire Lamar Jackson Baltimore Ravens story now He says that they made an offer he has not agreed to it So nothing is set in stone I would assume Odell Beckham Jr.

would like to know who his quarterback is gonna be before he makes a decision to return to the NFL because the last I'm we saw him play he was fucking great not just ball not just good He was great long time ago obviously like 14 15 months whatever it is he seems to be completely healthy We saw Prince Amakamore's video from his workout in Arizona He looked great snack the ball a team is gonna want him and be lucky to have him They were initially reporting that he wanted 20 million anyone at 15 million He said I just wasn't gonna take three million So we don't know what the actual number is but both more being in the game is fascinating kind of changes the combo there with Lamar And the Ravens does it or no? What do you think you're back? Um, I don't think that changed Lamar business Lamar business. I don't think Odell make a decision until Lamar figures out What he's gonna do or I don't know man because you gotta make these decisions quick Oh, they'll need to be somewhere where he could be an OT a he's getting rhythm getting pushed around coming off the surgery I still like jets for I think I think I'd like to just as well and I think um, you know Aaron Rogers who is currently the green Bay Packers quarterback.

Yeah, it has been for a long time Pete Shrager floated out what a potential deal could look like and remember Shrags pretty tight with the New York Jets operation His return to go morning football has been good for all of us congrats on a kid Shrag I think he said, uh, I think I think the tweet that I read was Jets are a Packers fans Would you be happy with a second rounder and a fourth rounder? I believe conditional second next year in a conditional second next year for Aaron Rogers So I think that is maybe Shrags has good sources. Yes, Drake says very good sources That feels like that might be in the ballpark. Let's assume that deal gets done Packers fans are pissed with the compensation They you know Have to admit that they didn't have any leverage which is what I got murdered for and there's move on to Jordan Love who we hope is fucking great But Aaron Rogers said who wouldn't want to play with Odell back in junior and I think in the past Aaron has told us previous reasons He's tight with Odell Beckham Jr.

They know each other very well They're appreciative of each other and if you're Odell Aaron the Jets seem to be going all in to try to win big time That's what Odell Beckham wants to be a part of when the Ravens doing the same Uh, I don't know the Rams doing the same Definitely not I don't know the Jets do feel like the best home for Odell Beckham junior But it's all going to be about the offer and the money and who offers what yeah, it seemed like it's been the Jets or bus from the get go He wants to play with Rogers. I think Rogers wants to play with him Not that he wouldn't play with Lamar, but he also loves New York He loves like the big city, you know, he's comfortable there And I think deep down like oh Del more than anything like yeah He wants to get paid but he wants to win and I think you look at the Jets what they've put together whenever this Rogers thing goes through And they get him like I still think they give you a better chance to win a Super Bowl than the Ravens do even with Lamar at quarterback Yeah, for anything with this Odell and there's it's almost like this house the Packers because now the Packers can tell the Jets like hey You're about to lose OBJ OBJ is gonna sound the Raven. No, well Perhaps you just told us yesterday that Lamar and the Ravens are talking right now on a contract He said yeah, well, he said there's a chance. He didn't say that they were they said they were negotiating Yeah, he said there was a chance at the Ravens and OB or in Lamar work it out Which was breaking news because the way Lamar's letter to his fans read is like he's not going back We thought that breach had burned so if Lamar gets a deal done with the Ravens then his OBJ immediately going to Baltimore Is that kind of a thought I guess that the Packers could say to the New York Jets and do the Jets care?

You know we don't care Wilson we just are we can bring in other people OBJ is great would be Fantastic for us. Yeah, so I think the Jets could combat that from a leverage standpoint But I think OBJ is gonna wait and see what's going on with Aaron at the Jets gonna see what's going on with Lamar Baltimore But Lamar and Baltimore without even Rappaport news yesterday that they might get a deal done That was I think breaking almost out of Ian's mouth out of his basement Yeah, but without Lamar being figured out I mean I wrote OBJ's name on his paper and a signature line that carries about as much weight as that offer from the Ravens does like Thank you for drawing up that contract. How easy to do contract your tough Wait to see Well, I was gonna do like the Jets cannot offer nobody else until they get Rogers down Yeah, they're gonna get his contract restructured to my favorite is gonna take place so they can figure out the salary cap But you ever in Rogers on team, you know, there's a lot of vets out there in a lot of positions that are ring chasing People used to ring chase all the time doing then they started ring chasing down Tampa Then they started ring chasing out to LA now people are starting to ring chase out to Kansas City The Jets could become a ring chasing destination Which I'm sure the Jets fans had no clue that their team could ever become congrats to them and congrats everybody Hopefully get a deal done Speaking of the Jets and their fans Mike Greenberg would join us in about an hour in five minutes to chitch out about his new book Which I believe is out now got your number is the name of it with Mike Greenberg and himbo I actually am published in it. Oh, yeah, that's right top Billy.

Yeah, I say listen these stories are spectacular. Mm-hmm. Not a lot Yeah, yeah, yeah, if green is right and it's gonna be great. He's been a New York Times bestseller before now It is available again.

We'll talk to him in about an hour and five minutes about you know becoming an offer yet again Let's go grab some green Type of shit down and have those should be incredibly proud and happy waskin bumping Jets fan anal said the heart scary yet Yeah, I guess that kind of came out of nowhere for us. I wonder what it was like behind the scenes had a heart surgery like two weeks ago Yeah, and he was off work. I was gonna text like it where the fuck are you? Yeah, the hell prick.

Oh, sorry. I had a heart McAfee in the hospital. Jesus Christ. What are you gonna do?

I'm not allowed to talk. Yeah, one point I text him I'm like, did I call you and like wish you well? He's like not a lot of really talker And I'm like damn this was a real this is a real deal. He looks great when he came back punching He did came back punching we got the chance to see him on the TV.

You look really good looks good. He's glowing Now from Attic in Ohio this guy his main is coach football national champion Arotyc up champion, no survivor and father of 10 the all-time leading tackler for the green Bay Packers AJ Hall Hey, what's up buddy? What's gonna happen so far just bunch bullshit. Oh, buddy was in the cloud so long we had to bring him back down Backman backman was having a lot we want to admit I got to pull it down everyone Exactly.

It's having a few different people we've had to bring back down to earth We got them down explosives shots. I mean it was all out there AJ we had a conversation with Daniel Jeremiah he talked about Jalen Carter in the reports that came out yesterday that he and Drew Rosenhouse His agent are only visiting top 10 teams in the draft pick choice line and there nobody else and after what happened It's a combine with Jalen Carter where he literally got arrested in the middle of it for a situation that's incredibly sad back in Athens, Georgia And then obviously the pro day where I mean I've seen a lot of the D-linemen go around bags That was some of the worst I've ever seen I think the internet who doesn't have to have like a keen scouting football Because look at that and go like that does not look great They were trying my thought is that there's probably a backstop somewhere so if they said outside the top 10 I mean the Eagles have probably said if Jalen Carter's available we will take him Daniel Miles said he's the most talented player in the draft you obviously won number five overall this guy Overall in the draft you know this process very well. What do you think about Jalen his situation and him going to the Eagles potentially? He's kind of what it sounded like yeah I mean you think about him on the Eagles the dude is so it used the term with him what twitchy don't they and especially for an interior D-linemen to be twitchy like that have multiple pass rush moves and be a such a disruptor that's that's what it is But our people more worried about I guess whatever whatever's going on off the field or they were worried about when he showed up to pro Danny was a little bit heavier didn't look good to finish that's what I would be worried about so I think all of it Right, this is like whenever you see somebody run a sprint and they don't touch the line It's not about the inch that you missed there.

It's about if you're willing to not touch the line What else are you willing you know not do not do like it's an indicator almost? I think is what people who are looking for downfalls or somebody after they have a bad one It's like oh could we have seen a red flags people asking the future and then leading into it some people go well If he's not doing that is he doing this is he doing this is he doing this like it's hard not to kind of get in that trap But there's your mindset guys to fucking go to football any coaching staff is gonna think that they could lead him to be the best version of himself Backman talk about this guy just being a fucking dog out there But he didn't move the sticks talk about it was fascinating as well. Yeah I'm just basically amen Ju everything you said man once you turn on the film you see him side to side the way you move around of course We know at the combine and he was overweight then perform pretty good, but when you turn on the tape he is fucking unblockable He's unstoppable So I don't even think the offseason I mean, but all season stuff is gonna bother him because if you look at the tape is nobody that you can find that you can pair on the Defense inside of the ball. That's a game changer like it.

Hey, did you know you're gonna the Packers? How'd that whole thing go? No, I did not really know they didn't bring me in for a visit like other teams did and all that stuff They kind of kept it quite Ted Thompson was a GM back then he he kept everything kind of to himself I don't think a whole lot of people ever knew okay, I got him Ted Turner About to take him at two so he could have been you know five might have been his back So did you take visits to who all how did that work? You know cuz it's top third visit right you get teams get to give out top 30 visits They're top 30 prospects are allowed to bring in now the Packers didn't bring AJ and they took him at five So there's a lot of bullshit going on with these top 30 visits as well because they're all being reported publicly and you want teams to know You're interested not know who you're interested in big game of poker.

It's crazy game That's happening right now that I think that's an Ohio band. I'm not a short way are I was very performed at Ryan Hawks event with Paul Carver with Bob Carver Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I'm a fellow with the whole way ours and we're talking about shout out throwback But it is like kind of all deceptive right now. Did you take any visits or were you how that whole thing go with you? Yeah, I took visit.

I don't know maybe five or six like I went to San Francisco to Detroit, Tennessee Tennessee Jeff Fisher and saw him but the Raiders actually try so I was still in school at the time too So I had to work out around my schedule taking finals all this stuff sure and at the very last second right before Like the weekend before the last date you could take a trip. It was Easter weekend I believe I think the Raiders wanted me to come out and I decline I'm like now I've done I am done. I am Easter coming up. I knew like hey This is my last visit I'm still in class all this we'll go home for Easter and they try to get me out there like a quick thing And I didn't have a feeling that they were gonna take me anyway So with my age was okay, it's up to you like whatever my guy.

I'm cool. I'll stay here Would be hilarious. Whatever was the Ravens that you would be right? Raiders maybe seven I believe I don't know so he knew I'd be big news AJ hop doesn't like right now.

It wasn't even like that. It was like they came in shoes News I'm gonna be scheduled earlier. Oh, I fuck to arrogant to go to number seven overall picks team like that's how I don't know what pick They were I'm guessing I don't know what they think he's going top five But that could be spun that way in modern media. It wasn't because that at all it wasn't like Jesus I'm gonna come on to I didn't feel like they had a good field They didn't want me to bring me in anyway like it wasn't like a thing.

I don't want to mess up any good Well, I don't know what it was about really okay, so I'm excited to hear where Jalen Carter I guess that's another storyline of the draft definitely you know We're all talking about number four overall pick and what's gonna happen with three and everything like that Seattle gonna move up maybe even though they signed you know they gonna want to get in the quarterback game is Tennessee going What will Indianapolis do what does the future look like for the Raiders? They signed Jimmy G They can take another quarterback in a Jeremiah's at four quarterbacks top seven He thinks the Raiders would take a quarterback if quarterbacks available if you listen to how he laid that out and say he doesn't want to Project Project trades now. It's like Jalen Carter be John Robinson We're starting to get these door lines with us here. We go.

Hey draft Come on we have some hilarious surprises for draft spectacular night. AJ. Can you say well their surprises? Hey, you wanna put that give us one hand.

I want everybody know that we have explored the space space will be used space will be explored with what is Available what can we do for the draft spectacular because I mean last year I guess was a little bit quicker this year should be as well because there's only 31 picks My dolphins don't have a pick but that thing could turn into a five hour five and a half hour fair There's a lot of like what we bus entertained COVID year is like six hours and we were in Tampa and we and we Missed the boat on being able to order food. Yeah, we need for the draft. So that was tough Yeah, that was a hell of a day for our program Aaron Rogers news was that morning. It was tractor.

Yeah, and then train lands Matt Jones and killing three is that what it was? Yeah, yeah Matt Jones and killing three Aaron Rogers news a live seat Thing where you kind of just on the show like actually, you know, maybe negotiate in that you know live Yeah, there's a Seahawks Russell Wilson saga also and it was right in the middle of a living room in Tampa Bay Yeah, then Tonya Brown would move into it's right a few months later and move out. Yeah Paid first three months rent for him. Yeah, we got a bamboo zoop net hole thing It really took advantage of us but a lot of people are going down the floor in the middle of that COVID so it's hard to get a house.

It's hard to get a house down there We gotta get a house just for months straight just so we could use it on two days Great very fast and by the way to what's not a be had very fast enough. Yeah, we paid for that as well I was worth it. Yeah, it was worth it. Yeah, cool cool 27th is that one address attack is this year?

Yeah, so AJ you're gonna be pumped about these surprises as well, but are you coming over or are you staying over there? I don't know. I'd have to be there to like me I gotta see what's going on the next morning. You're gonna want to be here for it.

Okay. Don't be an idiot here come with Yeah, I think some of the things that are gonna happen here again You put a slip and slide in there. What are you doing? Wait, we don't know maybe we don't know I just know we're hiring humans to do their thing here Okay, yeah, I'm a s angel.

Maybe I don't know Don't bury the lead. We know that he's coming find another University chair at top. Just know that you know We have a lot of room for activities. Yeah, the Nordo's like relatives.

Maybe well, we did see Grant He looks like a great kid. Just wait. That's a piece. No.

Love you Joe. What if we did have denars grandkid fucking on a doppler in the middle of the Gram of denardo telling us the weather. I'd be amazing. Rest in peace.

No, yeah, thank you for I'm too soon. Thank you. It was going to soon. I'm starting right.

I live to 88. We need them to be one 88 Yeah, so we can know a little bit more about what's going on outside 70 degrees and I'll overcast today here in India Does feel like spring and sprung potential. Oh, yeah, it's prime time. They don't let her what your deal is it's Yeah, very bad tonight again.

There's a hundred mile an hour winds on Friday. Like a lot of towns in Indiana Got a lot of we hope everybody's okay. It sounds like mother nature is being a real bitch these days Yeah, and I'm not doing that as like No, that was bad bitch like it is it's been real bad across a lot of places. So I mean, there's not the name of us You better go get your bathtub put a mattress over top of it in the basement.

Oh, you as long as you have a mask on to You know, just just in case the whole thing. No, you won't yeah, because you're fucking way too She asked wait. I'm gonna wear a mask in my basement. I'm sheltering from a tornado You didn't hear about what covid does during tornadoes guess what it spreads.

Yeah, wow I'm surprised that happened yet. It's scary. It's like shark. Nade over the job.

I mean We need to wear masks tornadoes are coming around. Let's go ahead and remain socially distant from the tornadoes And let's put masks on I'm speaking I'm doing that person has a better chance of dying by catching cold beard from you if you don't have a mask on if in your house If they fell through your roof and got covid from that then actually falling through the roof All right, we don't know if that's accurate We don't know if those are accurate numbers Tone is just reading a couple internet reports and putting his own math in spin on it We don't know if he's running the stats or not, but I mean could be true the internet is a wild thing He's got his mask on right now up there in Canada I'm always trying to find a lot and I always see his beard sticking out the bottom Yeah, well, that means I'm asking work. He needs putting gas mask on if he really wants to protect some people right now Bring back masks was trending in Canada yesterday Yeah, yeah Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, on Make us put our mask back on I didn't know you flipped that way Let's move along I think we're at the point which is good and I've talked about this a couple times Where there's still people wearing masks Once again, we would like to know what they know that we don't know Because I would like to know what the fuck they think And what they know, they think they can't breathe the same out of the way that I'm wearing a mask I would like to know what they know Because that would be a good piece of information for me Also, happy that it feels like masked people talking to unmasked people Yeah, you know, like let's put our swords down almost That's a good thing, you know what I mean? Respect both ways, that's what we need, right?

It was like, I saw it a lot, I went around out there in the public I was like, hey, this is good Yeah, the public, everyone seems to be coming together now and getting along really well these days like in America, don't they? I don't know what you're trying to say Don't be honest, I don't know what you're trying to say But that's my interactions that I had when I've been out in the public Yeah, yeah Talking to me as if I'm a normal human, that's good I enjoy that because normally it was like you're killing people, you're terrible Terrible, you're terrible, and then on the other side, normally the non-masking people say Think terrible things as well, so there's never any, you know, kind of But from my experience where I've seen it out in the public, I feel like people are coming together Common ground Oh, hey, there's good news, there's good news, we're happy about it, so keep your fucking false stats to yourself Okay, because the world's starting to get along, it feels like Some guy I saw went through a roof and he survived, but he caught Kobe from the family inside and then he unfortunately passed away from him Well, rest in peace with that gentleman, that sounds like a terrible way to go out He got caught in the front door He probably got going through the roof, though No, no, no, no, no, no, we do not know, we do not know, we're not diving into this I know, but I've got questions from back, though Okay, alright, yeah Dares' Brother was supposed to join us about four minutes ago, we were having FaceTime connection issues, hope it is not a storm, if you hope it is just a tech issue, we'll be able to plug it back in A lot of film been happening since when Dares' supposed to be on, now let's dive into an actual news story, if Dares gets on, which we hope so He would just jump right in, oh no, back I'm junior, allegedly offered a contract by the Baltimore Ravens They do not have everything figured out with Lamar Jackson just yet, AJ, but in Rapport said yesterday, there's a chance they could deal done still Ravens and Lamar, even though the letter to the fans from Lamar Jackson sounded like that conversation is probably Sailed, that chip is gone, what are your thoughts on OB J again offered an opportunity to play for the Ravens and also the Ravens may be investing in a weapon? That sounds like a big deal First time ever, yeah, if they did offer a contract, I'm sure it feels good for Odell to get something on paper that he can look at, but also I would assume he instantly is in contact with Lamar, so hey man, what's the deal, like I just know a chance, I'm even going to talk to these guys further probably if I don't know if you're coming back So listen with Ravens allegedly, if you've tried to deal, they make an offer to Odell Beckham Jr. Allegedly, via Shaftr, Shaftr fucking knows everybody, let's assume That Shaftr's right, send on NFL Live, that's our NFL show, a lot of people from the NFL watching that show, want everybody to know that they did it They also try to get Darius Lay, did you hear about this?

Darius Lay has confirmed a report that he was this close, they ended up with the Ravens ultimately in the end The Eagles didn't want him to leave their building or trade him so they get an extension done to pay Darius Lay again, and he remains in the back Of a very stacked Philadelphia Eagles defense, here's him addressing the Ravens rumors and shout out to Ravens fans learning a lot about what their teams are trying to do to build up some weaponry In a squad around Lamar, if they're able to get Lamar back Disclose? Oops, I bought some more Ravens, I was this close, this close, but I wanted to be Eagle, I stayed at Eagle because I know we have to figure something out But the Baltimore Ravens was the first team that called, and they offered just what I wanted, and I just said that Eagle's do that, I must say Eagle So it was nice now, man, I was a Raven, I was almost a different bird Okay, so almost a different bird for Big Place Lay there, I love that he has a neon light over the left shoulder And also he set up his sounds spectacular, shout out to Darius Lay, this feels like the Ravens story now, if we go back To why Hilton former Colt played for the Cowboys this past season, before he signed with the Colts two years ago, he said, ah, this is the Ravens, well we're almost Ravens I think Juju Smith's Juicer, before he signed with the Chiefs, ah, almost the Ravens And then now you're in Darius Lay, Big Place Lay, ah, almost the Ravens, then Odell Beckham Jr. here, whenever he signed somewhere, if it's not the Ravens, we'll probably say almost the Ravens It is a, it's almost like a, I think Harbaugh's probably saying that to Lamar, you know, like hey we are trying our apps with best, for one reason or another, is it business? They're not able to figure it out, and does that mean that there's zero chance that they figure out to Lamar Jackson, or is that the situation as a whole over there?

I think that's what we're all asking ourselves now Yeah, and who, I guess, who is holding things up, what is the problem there, and it was, Slay would, if they had already extended Lamar, it looked like he was going to be back with Slay, jumped on that off right away, possibly, I'm sure he looked at a little harder. Same thing with that, yeah, with that, yeah, now with Odell too, that's what I'm saying, like nothing, why would a receiver sign there right now? Lamar and Limbo, we don't know what's happened. Slay's no guy in the back end, he's dope.

Yes, he don't play unbelievable, that's why he was one of the top ten corners, he was in my top ten But on top of this, almost shit, we keep hitting almost, almost getting Lamar fucking done bro, that's why we want to hit the rapers, he wants you to take care of Lamar first, we don't care if you sign OBJ, that is not even a fucking topic right now, oh we want to sign OBJ, and we want to know what you want to do with Lamar. I think Lamar is the thing that has to figure out, but is this all the Ravens trying to prove to Lamar that they're trying to become a team that could potentially go on and run, because with the lack of weapons and everything that got going on over there, it has been strictly for Lamar Jackson show, joining us now is a man who, nine years out of a corner, nickel and safety, Drafting his second round to go to the New England Patriots, end up with the Carolina Panthers and the Indianapolis Colts, massive brain, host of everything DB in the Man and Man podcast, ladies and gentlemen, Terry Spuller. Yeah, let's go. Hey, what's up fellas?

Hey, we'll talk about Yukon getting back into sports relevancy, huh? I got it. But let's wrap up. That's normal.

You still don't really not really. That's not the case. Oh, yes, it's a boy. 11 for the women.

It's what we do. So basketball school. Okay, we had a good run for basketball school. You still talk about that.

You're right. Fitz one, since 95, you and I were eight years old. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, shout out to you.

Hey, we'll talk more about that later because obviously the city's burning down, but let's talk about a city burning down and the fans being very disappointed in their team. Sounds like Baltimore has been in play for everybody and they're not able to get the deal done. What do you think it is? Derry's behind the scenes.

It's figuring it all out. The obvious answer is like just take care of Lamar and then people bring chasing to Baltimore, but it's almost almost almost almost almost it feels like everybody. Yeah, I'm right. I'm right.

We're gonna pet. Forget the almost shit. Take care of the big domino. You got a lock up Lamar and receivers, other players, the slay, all these guys are going to pull that trigger unless you got their quarterback position.

So no, especially players that are in that second or third contract. They're trying to go somewhere and win play go ball. Lock up Lamar. Obviously Lamar, demand the trade.

S for a trade. I felt like he should have did it the day they hired this new OC who's been back and forth from college. I know he's got some great things in Georgia, but I think Greg Roman in that office of systems held the mark back and is less than his value across the league because a lot of players know he's great. All the fans know Lamar is great.

Well, it's kind of split when it comes to like GM owners and people like that who are really making a decision. I think a lot of that is because of that system he's been playing in. You're down south Florida and obviously Lamar Jackson Entertainment, I-775 is down there and we have yet to see the video, right? Still not out.

I like what he's doing. This is like when people say, hey, album is coming next week and then two months later, the album coming. Yeah. Yeah.

So you can kind of build up the hype. What are you hearing out of Lamar Jackson's camp and what are your thoughts on the mark? Do we know anything at this point and what are you demanding or expecting from anybody? Wouldn't that be a nice piece of information for the world to have?

Potentially there is. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, and I've been saying it obviously you got to respect and do things how he wants to do it. But you know, this is the agent. It's where the agent, what I think will come in and move things forward or put out a long ass press release like Holler's did and get him paid and things like that.

But you hear reports about obviously, Chef, he dropped the 133. I think I was there when that came out that you saw a report saying that no, he doesn't want the fully guaranteed contract, but he does want more than 230 fully guaranteed. And I think that is why I said I think that contract that 230 fully guaranteed he's going to remain outlier. Even when Burrow and Herbert and these guys get paid.

I don't think any of the owners kind of give on that at this point. But I said, we don't know. It's been a lot of he say, C-Shay. She say, and obviously Lamar doesn't have an agent.

He's been playing things closer to the best. He made this trade request back in early March. We're just hearing about it now. So hopefully they get it all figured out up there in Baltimore.

They've been a, I feel like since they came into the league, they've been a great program. They've had great culture and you kind of saw some cracks in that last year. You saw players talking out, speaking out against, you know, this or that. You don't really see that with Baltimore.

So I hate to see that. So I hope they get them figured out. If not, we'll take them over there. We'll take them down here Miami.

There's a lot of organizations that should be lined up for this guy. Hey, but I'm sure you've seen the pictures of Will Levis now. Jack, the two days now. Good.

He looks and people's opinion on Jack quarterbacks and their success in the NFL. What do you think about that? What do you think it's like to say the coach on take a shot on Levis? Well, hell no, I'll be honest.

I hate doing the pre-draft thing because I don't want to be the guy who fucks up some money. Right? I want people to get paid. I want people to go as high as possible.

But speaking as a coach, man, this is somebody who's watching the film. No, I wouldn't do it. Doesn't have a strong arm. Yes.

He's that. Yeah. He's probably going to look good in uniform. But watching the film, just so inconsistent, you know, with the throws with the the reads and then we'll play right down, which they do a lot, especially going to get drafted that high.

You would assume you have to make a lot of, you know, second reaction plays, Bryce Young is great at that. CJ Shroud. We saw it firsthand. Boots on the ground, the playoffs.

He's great at that. I better not thought. Anthony Richardson, you would expect that he'll be great at that at least early in his career. He'll continue to develop.

Will Levis, you don't really see it. You see a strong arm. You do see it strong arm. Compact release.

He would have to be coach to be a pocket quarterback. And I wouldn't. I wouldn't take that. No chance.

No way. I would try to trade that fourth pick before I went. Will Levis 1000% if I'm coach. So Anthony Richardson's three after watching the film, your eyes clear?

Yeah, I think it's clear. Clear. He's ahead of. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if Hooker went ahead of Levis.

But, you know, I did see the 30, 13 put out something a couple weeks ago that had Levis as their number one quarterback, which is completely shocking. So those guys obviously been around it and made a lot of decisions a lot longer than I have. So, but I just don't see it on the film. A lot of people love him, but I absolutely don't.

We love and an hooker. He's fucking large. He's a large gentleman. He also beat Bama.

So like that is something to think about. They put up numbers and their offense had option routes for the wide receivers. So he would think he would be able to adapt to the NFL game. And before he had his surgery, he was moved.

He can move. Yeah. Huge. It's too time.

We think, you know, modern medicine. I mean, we expect him to be pretty close to that same player, you know, athletically. It's not like he's, you know, Anthony Richardson. But I mean, I like Hooker.

I would be surprised if he goes in the first round. I think he's the first round talent quarterback. I think only a year younger than Lamar Jackson. But I definitely take Hooker even before Levis.

But once again, I've been wrong with somebody like I didn't see what Daniel Jones coming out. He got drafted where he just got paid against. So he's doing something right. So it's not like, you know, it's a crap shooting his draft.

That's every single pick. First pick overall could be a guy. Pick 222 could be a guy. Mister irrelevant could be a guy.

And you have no fucking clue in between. You have no idea what money time and pressure is going to do to somebody. And you just got to hope you can coach this. Oh, man.

Obviously coaching is important in the room. The room you're going to. Well, situation. I mean, back to airline assignment.

And he don't in such a massive deal for the quarterback because Andy, Josh, Andy Dalton, Josh McCown and Frank Reich, that's like actually 50 years of backup quarterback play around whoever the rookie quarterback is coming in. Feels like they're on a mission to have great success at the quarterback position. But that could fucking fall out of nowhere, literally into an injury to a offensive lineman could change everything for the quarterback for the rest of their career. Because of how the offense is supposed to go.

The NFL is impossible to predict. I what you just said about will that was a little bit alarming because I think they're starting to put him at the Colts on all these mock drafts. We shall see Pac-Man has some for you. But what's up?

What's up? What's up? Hey, bro, with all these off season transitions, not too many in the defensive back room besides I'm I'm working on down to Miami with that being said, what's your what's your two top groups? I'm of course the Eagles are in it.

They got the same group back. Yeah. So we'll leave them where they are. I think Gilmore leaving Indy is a big hurt for Indy.

That's just my fault leadership. There's no reason for you to bring it up. And everybody I just heard Slade say he almost went to Baltimore both of the corners still there. So I was just saying here thinking maybe guys are going to get in three really good corners now because I like it.

They throwing the ball 90% of the time. So my question was first question was who are your top three defensive groups as far as corners and third. I mean, my second question was are the defense now going to get three good corners instead of having to. I mean, I need to I like that mindset because that seems like what the offensive doing.

They loading up on these weapons, having at least three, four, five will pass the weapons out this unique guys who cover but the top the top group right now you mentioned it. Jaylen Rams, you get a guy like that in his prime coming down to a place where he wanted to play. So it's not like he was reluctant to trade it. He wanted to come to Miami.

I'm sure she's going from Cali to Florida that money wise. I was checking on a lot different, but he's coming to Miami team and up with X-Man and he got Javan Hollan who's dynamic on that backhand. Brandon Jones will be coming back off an injury. So Miami right up there with Philly.

You mentioned it too. Dallas, Trevont Diggs, Steph Gilmore. You got Donovan Wilson every sign him. Jay Ron Kurz will see me there doing Malik Hooker.

A lot of big fast guys who can move around fly around and get their hands on the ball and turn it over. You got dogs up front who can get out to the Russia as well after the pass as well. Same thing Miami Bradley. We pretty familiar.

He should be fresh. Got a young kid out of UM, UM that we drafted a couple years ago. So I would go to those two groups of Dolphins and probably Cowboys right now and obviously up there with Philly, Green Bay. They got some dogs over there as well.

It's a lot of time in these secondaries right now. How come get leaders left with the Colts? What happened there? He's thinking about it.

They did them a solid. They did them a solid. We all watched it last year and he was one of the very, actually I think I took him back. The defense of the whole goes Bradley had a defense playing well.

But the offense was just obviously atrocious. But Gilmore, he showed that he was still, you know, still has some trail left on the tire and still was in the prime of his career. So I think Chris Bellert and the Colts did him a solid. Traded him.

I think I would have fifth round pick back. No, it didn't mean you were. It didn't mean you were. It wasn't for the Cowboys.

It was revolving door on the other side of what you bought digs last year. So for them to lock that up with everything they have on that defensive side of ball as well. I would have a clean standing place. I think both both.

I think the Cowboys definitely got better with that. But I think they just did them a solid. We obviously got a lot of holes to fill right now. And he might be might be tanking for Caleb.

Oh, is it good for you Pat? It's okay. Yeah. Yeah.

You're rebuilding here with the fourth overall pick. We already had one of those. What are we even talking about? That was true.

City year before the reboot. Yeah. Good solid guy at four or maybe move back a little bit and then you tank again and you get your quarterback next year. Yeah.

And then if that doesn't work out, I just run it back. Oh, you're taking that for me. I saw him. I saw him Richardson and Lev is still here.

Well, I'm taking the Richardson. You see he posted on his Instagram story. He's cowboy boots on shorts on. He had sunglasses on his walk through a field.

And at one point the song he was playing is like, I'm a Harley Rotten bad ass motherfucker pretty much. And as soon as I saw the photo, I was like, give me that guy right there on our team. But I think like Gardner Menchoo's here. Okay.

And I never expected, you know, I never expected. I was back up great, great, back up. I never expected in my life to say like happy Gardner Menchoo is an Indianapolis cold. I did not expect that to happen when Menchoo Mania was running Wild Brother down there in Jacksonville.

And then whatever happened in Philly when it came out one and then him and that moment afterwards. Like I never thought to myself, you know what I'm gonna say at some point in my life? Happy Menchoo is like the starting quarterback for the coach. But with Spike Men coming in.

Yeah. Yep. You know, with his offense and being like the way it runs and Gardner knowing the offense, if we were to get a quarterback that wasn't ready, which who is ready for the NFL whenever you drafted her? I guess that's a much better question.

Only see a few coming to be ready off the rip. That's not a bad person, especially with what the immediate success we've seen with Jalen Hurts and what Anthony Richardson's body build and style is it's like that could be successful for us. Is there just a dog? He's a fucking monster.

And I was impressed with his throws. You watch the film though. Florida's Florida sucked. Okay.

So it's looking around to be out. And the coach, a lot of people say it's just a. No reason to bury Mr. Napier.

Shut down the Vegas ball. Great guy. Hurts, redemption. But even throws, Anthony Richardson made throws and made you think like, hey, this guy could be an NFL quarterback when you watch the film because they're talking like this guy two, three years out.

He doesn't have enough experience. Should have stuck around another year. Did you see some glimpses of NFL play? Yeah.

I mean, I think C.J. Stroud and Bryce, I think they're really, really good and clearly a cut above. But, you know, he, I'm sure Carolina Panthers aren't 100% sure right now to not go with Richardson. It's probably one of those guys, but Richardson with his talent, you look at the film, you know, obviously, you know, you know, you gotta look at the film, especially at the quarterback position.

And then you got to look at the talent around him. You got to look at the game, play the scheme, all these different things. Uh, coaches, you know, coaches have egos. And Spike mentioned, he just like, you mentioned it.

He just had hurts in Philly. And, hurts, I think the best thing that happened to hurts was him to get bitch to the bottom and then go play for Lincoln Raleigh and get coach. Because you got, it's like, you don't, you don't use it. You lose it.

Just like anything. The March Axum, he was with Pashrino in Louisville. I feel like he was a better pastor because it was more of a passing game that he, you know, repped, uh, weekend week out. So if you put Richardson with a guy like that in a system like that where, yeah, you can still use your legs.

Me young while you're figuring out is some RPOs. It's throws that kind of are pre determined sometimes. He's got all the tools. And then you look at his athletic score.

I mean, probably one of one when it comes to that. So it's hard for teams to pass something like that up. So I would be very happy with AR 15 at number four. I think so too.

And actually they are 15s killing. They said he doesn't want to go by or 15 because the gun control policy conversation. He's wants to go by or. What?

All right. They are. They are. I just want to let you know there's probably some tweets coming to you nonetheless.

That guy is a weapon. Oh, yeah. I mean, that we all remember the spin move jump past two point conversion. And then he goes to the combine and it's like best in history of quarterbacks, best in history quarterbacks, best in history quarterbacks.

And that's not like, oh, quarterbacks are just Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. There's been a lot of dogs that have come through the combine, not quarterback related things. And for him to be the best of all time, it's like seems like everybody likes some team stunk, though, which is a worry. Yeah, that matter.

You know, I, so a lot of people comparing to Camp Newton, no, Camp, Camp went to Auburn, went undefeated through the SEC one and national championship one of Heisman, like, Camp producing one. Jaylin Hurts. Jaylin Hurts was in a high, high in the conversation. One national championship that I believe always producing one.

So it is something to that. You got to produce. You got to win. I mean, at the same time we talked about his decrap from some of those guys coming in.

They don't do much in the lead, but a guy like this, I think he's worth taking a chance on. And then the throwing, you know, it's throwing, it's not like he's not a natural, you know, obviously the term a natural thrower. Like he's, he's a natural thrower. Like he has a natural thrower.

So I'll be, I'll be happy about a project, especially with the revolving door that we've had at the coast for that QB, so you're in, you're out. At least get a guy we could say, all right, you know, he may not be the guy, you're one, but we can see maybe year two, year, three, year four, he could be a guy that could take a place. We're getting to Cleveland, that Jersey. Yeah, he close second most all time.

Quarterbacks, just like how many have started and how many had hoped and we've rolled through two to three good rosters. Yeah, he's still trying to find it. He's not, it's not been a blast to watch. Hopefully we find at four what we're looking for or if we don't.

March, I'm actually available. Come back to you. I didn't want to hope before. I'll be like, you need to relax.

There's been a lot of real gear. Did you hear this? Thank you, Deepa. Hell yeah.

We need it. Deepa, don't we? We don't know if we need killing in the backfield. Do you really think y'all have a chance of getting a little more?

Let's be honest. It's funny. It's all this, right? We got the money.

It's all this. Jim R. He's got the money. He's got four pianos.

Sorry. We all had time to pull the plug. Y'all ain't pulled the plug. Exactly.

Jim R.C. has been worried about his concert. Let's focus on some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some tweets out though. What happened to him?

Lolita, he freed her. Really? Hell yeah, yeah. But yeah, it helped him.

Captain for a long time. Jim R.C. Thank you too. Did you make it in the wild?

I'm saying Jim talked to the whale and the whale was going to be able to be reacquainted to the rest of the whales. I'm looking at it on her back out there to make sure. Oh good. Dinner before today is Lolita, Frescon for Tim Mayonna Beach.

Key players in a massive plane to finally free this 8,000 pound killer whale. Where was he at? Down in Miami Beach. I don't know.

Stay tuned. Is this dream on Foulton's Real Thought? 52 years in captivity. You think that was going back out there freezing cold ocean?

Lolita's probably. I'm not going outside of peeing coming back in. Or it was like. That's just a cover up.

That's a cover up. He went down for that damn whale. He's there to meet Lamar. That was a little cover up.

He's down here. Lolita. She's done. She's there right now.

He's always tweeting. He's like, oh, Jesus. He's out of there. He's been through here.

So Jim R.C. kills whale. Wow. That's the headline.

No. Jim R.C. frees killer whale. And in process.

Lands big whale. That's the headline. Okay. He's a hero.

Certainly possible. There's a good chance Lolita was killed 15 years ago and it completely destroyed SeaWorld worker. I don't know if killer whales die from one shot in the head, but I do know that 52 years. I'm not a long one.

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