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Podcasts and Cocktails

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We're in trouble now. Well clear from regular listeners if I guess I have no idea so we're hoping that you will. And the reason I have Dragoon due on to the podcast is the one I wanted to have you have to do to have you as a podcast victim for a change because usually you're hosting the confab podcast we can be heard at podcast one.com you can find the items.com the content well like the confab forget to be a boost part of the show to my for is I like the idea of being able to get the weekly standard content when I'm driving when I'm doing stuff and it doesn't you kind of bring me kind of a slice of the weekly standard in a country. We take a few of the articles that I find particularly interesting and we get the writers of those articles to come on and talk about one article and then spin off maybe directions that there wasn't room for in the magazine have some fun with it.

Okay this is all thread I'm going to put this in the podcast so who's the best person to talk to on the weekly standard staff and who's like the worst two polling podcast. It's actually the same person. Matt lay bash great guest hates doing any kind of media he's a writer's writer he wants to write he wants to that to be his voice. Defectation.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Oh come on he loves every second of it.

I don't know it's like going deep to get him to do it but worth every bit of his deep being pulled. Yeah and I agree with you he's absolutely terrific and so if you've never heard the confab podcast one.com or the items and I could find that. Yeah. I'm bad.

I'm bad. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm reading it.

And also all of our podcasts are linked at the podcast page at weekly standard.com where you can find this podcast. So you and your omnivivulous partner big well first let me take issue with the omnivulous partner. The omnivulous meaning one will drink anything. The Truman cocktail is something I will never drink.

Truman cocktail this is from 1948. It's Scotch slogean creme de ment and a Chinese cooking wine called my quiet luteu all together it's got to be the most disgusting thing ever invented but I only came across the Truman cocktail because we were doing this project to go up and dig up famous cocktails not upon a time named after presidential candidates and presidents so it used to be a booming tradition of gaining fame through having a cocktail named after you and so it's one thing to be president it's another thing altogether to have a cocktail named after one is really lasting fame. So air felt that it's mind is standing that the cocktail named after various presidents and presidents and we're going to talk about some just a moment kind of goes along with a lot of the pre literate pre media broadcast media campaigning in other words you needed a way to get your message out to folks who either never saw any story they did when they said you had to read it. So you had campaign songs.

Those are big right by a lot of campaign songs and the iconography is almost from a certain place in certain state or in the log cabin. But some images you can get them to military battles that folks are supposed to be canoeing title to William Henry Harrison not only sung into office but also it was a big deal that he drank hard cider. So hard cider is a little large in the William Harrison legend. So you had this period in history that ended what around Truman's time around I guess Truman night time.

Yeah, presidential cocktail things seem to kind of peter out. But the idea that there would be booze that was geographically connected to the candidate or the president. Maybe an old example of that in your campaign cocktail series on weekend.com is the Tawana Tomo. What Tomo was that one of a number of different Roosevelt cocktails that were made in honor of Tato Rosalom.

There were some iterations of Tato Rosalom. There was a Tato Rosalom cocktail when he was on a police reform board in New York in the 1890s and that cocktail. That's what he made right there. Yeah, I know he was already gaining fame.

But there was no religion in the cocktail. There's no julienne teeny out there. That's a very impressive beat. Well, the original Roosevelt cocktail was half beer and half soda water.

Oh, yeah, that's a sad little shambier right there. But as a whole. Why was it half beer? Absolutely.

I don't know. No, no, no. It's not the time to have something to do with that. Well, there certainly was a preference movement that was booming all along.

And Rosalom, it's interesting for a guy who had a number of different cocktails named Aftrem. He claimed that he never drank and he certainly never had drunk. And he was accused in a newspaper column during his 1912 run for the White House on a boom-moo stick. He was accused of being drunk by a newspaper editor in Michigan.

And Roosevelt didn't like that one bit. So he sued the editor for libel. And in procedure, there was a whole court case. And Roosevelt took the sand and perjured himself, saying that he never had a drop.

This even though, even though the White House sued from when Roosevelt was president, had detailed the elaborate mint jeweler that he made, poor Teddy Roosevelt. But according to testimony, taken in Michigan, Teddy Roosevelt never had a drop. It's not that case worked out. Teddy won the case.

One case. And I think I had a penny in damage or something like that. So let's get back to the one to tumbo. I mentioned the geographic point.

He mentioned like William Hemer Harris on the Mr. Hart side, because he was from a rustic background. There were friend of mine who's from Missouri said there was some Missouri candidate for Senator William and William he drank McCormick corn litter because it was made from corn grown in Missouri. You know, that kind of thing.

But Teddy Roosevelt was in well traveled. John, we were supposed to say Missouri. Well, my best in college, my best friend was my written college is from Southwestern Missouri. And he always says Missouri.

So I defer to him. It's like saying, but I won. No, it's not. It's not at all.

It's a, it's a, it's a, who might have tried to define Shelby's eight folks. The problem with making a drink for Teddy Roosevelt at the time, 1912 or whatever. There's he already been quite a few places. I'm sorry.

People like to in Nick and cocktails for an individual. They will try to find some shit that usually involves finding cocktail ingredients from all over the place. And so for Teddy Roosevelt, every come back from Safari, where he earned the nickname Buana Tambo, big, big boss. That means yeah, basically.

The cocktail invented for him upon his return from Safari included San Juan rum, of course, San Juan Hill, sweet for move, dry gin, absent, curse flosser. So a bunch of, you know, I don't know. Does this mean Teddy had been in Germany? I, I, it's a little bit of a mismatch.

And some of these rings really are a mishmash, the Truman cocktail bean, the, the native of mishmash cocktails. But one of the things we tried to do with our little campaign cocktail project here at the weekly standard is we went to Bar Pilar, a great cocktailing bar here in DC, and asked the bar tenders there to take some of these vintage campaign cocktails and edit them a little bit and make them actually palatable. Some of them, some of them didn't take much of anything in the way of editing. So for example, there's a, a bill taffy or a couple of different bill taff cocktails, the enemy of Roosevelt in 1912.

And one of those cocktails was OK as far as it went, which was gin, bubine, gin and bubine go together very nicely. And garnished with mint leaf, all right, and then olive. So sweet and savory, clashing, minty olive, yeah, minty olive, and not good, not good. But there was another bill taffy cocktail, which was described as being a creole cocktail with a frosted rim.

Now creole cocktail is a very old silo cocktail that involves rye whiskey, sweet for mousse, a little bit of benedictine, and a little bit of Americana, which is very hard to find orange, bitter liqueur. And so really that was a drink that all they had to do was make it according to the way it was described at the time. And what you know, there's a great drink. Now in the intersupply disclosure, I was there at Barco-Lar when we videotaped the series of these bartenders making up dating and modernizing and developing the drinks.

And I got a chance to taste it at the end of that. It was very nice. I would order one tomorrow. It was a pleasant surprise.

And if you go with the same dot com and go to our campaign cocktail page and see videos of yourself and Vic Mattis and his bartenders talking about making and tasting for the first time, right? Right. So we follow along with the bartenders of our Pilar in making the drinks. And to me, the most fun part of the whole project is that now the fourth and final episode has gone up.

We're soliciting recipes from you to listen to anybody out there for your idea for a cocktail for the cocktail or the drop tower or whatever we need, which I revitalize this notion of the presidential campaign cocktail. Yes, we are. And we're looking for real cocktail stations, original cocktail submissions. They don't have to be positively geared, which is to say part of the tradition of presidential cocktails is to make a cocktail and to give it a name that mocks your opponent.

So for example, go back to Grover Cleveland Day, and it was a drink called the Cleveland Weekener. You're kidding. I kid you not, but Cleveland Weekener. So it wasn't the Cleveland attorney.

So Bob, where's my ball? Of course, the camp of Cleveland campaign had the ultimate rejoinder to that. Go on to the White House. Haha.

Yeah. So they have their way. Yes, we're looking for a pro Trump, pro Hillary and Trump and Hillary cocktails. And you can send them to Cockails at weeklysanders.com.

I'll ask you before we wrap up the, of all the cocktails you tried, the one that you actually would sit down at a bar in half. We're on the bar. We're by way already in cocktail. We'll be on the menu of bar, bar through the notations.

And some of the drinks that we made up with with bar Pilar already on the menu, the historical ones. And now the Taft cocktail. I would drink that in heart, in great drink. I'd say the one drink that I found in doing the historical research that I really, really like is the Ike cocktail.

And so there were a couple of different Ike cocktails. One of them, kind of like that early Teddy Roosevelt was club soda and champagne. Bad, bad. But another Ike cocktail is just a very dry martini garnished with a Gherkin pickle.

Very nice. Very nice. It's very nice. That doesn't speak to me.

The problem that I have is that we haven't had enough Irish President. So we don't have an Irish whiskey based cocktail. That was what I would have. My specialty cocktail, if you will, is for not the number holidays, but the December holidays is a wonderful cocktail called the Mary Irishman.

And it's Irish whiskey. Have a shot of Kalua in a sport. You lost me already. I know.

I thought there's no way this is going to work in a splash of peppermint shops, a splash. And then you sort it with a candy cane as the Swiss will stick it. Well, and no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, Michael, I would choose.

Surprisingly, surprisingly, perfect from December 15 until January 1st. So you have that. I'll have an ice. You have the ice and I would pick all.

I'll have the the bush mills with the Kalua and splash of peppermint shops. And we'll be all set. Eric Bell, thanks for joining us for the podcast. Thank you for watching.

My pleasure. You've been listening to the with these candor podcast, please visit tectors.com regularly. It'll also find links there to the confab of podcasts. Hope this is by Eric Bellton at podcastone.com and the crystal clear podcast and once again, you can subscribe to all of these at itunes.com.

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