Politics Thursday: Labour's Ayesha Verrall and National's Mike Butterick talk abuse in care, Health NZ

The Royal Commission into abuse in care has revealed horrifying stories of abuse, but what's the next move from the government, and what will redress look like?  And how much blame can be laid at the feet of the last government for Health NZ's money troubles? Those were the questions for our politics panel this week, with Labour's health and Wellington issues spokesperson Ayesha Verrall and National's Wairarapa MP Mike Butterick.  LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.