EPISODE · Apr 16, 2026 · 30 MIN
Populism Will Eat Itself? – How Orbán’s defeat changes the game
from The Bunker – News without the nonsense · host Podmasters
The stunning defeat of Viktor Orbán and his “illiberal democracy” project in Hungary appears to be a humiliating blow to Trump, Vance, Putin, Farage, and populists across the world. (Who will host their get-togethers now?) But is it really the beginning of the end for far-right authoritarianism, or something more complex? Jason Pack – host of the Disorder podcast and Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute – talks to Andrew Harrison about why Orbán fell, where the “neopopulist” go next, and what fans of democracy should learn from Peter Magyar’s victory. • Support us on Patreon to join the Oh God, What Now vs Origin Story Podclash on Thursday 30 April. FURTHER READING FROM JASON • Listen to the Disorder podcast with Jason Pack • Ordering the Disorder Substack: The Heart of Europe beats Stronger than ever • How Orban led to Trump. • Hungary’s Lessons for Trump’s Opponents: Viktor Orbán’s critics had to put their ideological differences aside. www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Audio production by Tom Taylor and Robin Leeburn. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Artwork by James Parrett. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The stunning defeat of Viktor Orbán and his “illiberal democracy” project in Hungary appears to be a humiliating blow to Trump, Vance, Putin, Farage, and populists across the world. (Who will host their get-togethers now?) But is it really the beginning of the end for far-right authoritarianism, or something more complex? Jason Pack – host of the Disorder podcast and Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute – talks to Andrew Harrison about why Orbán fell, where the “neopopulist” go next, and what fans of democracy should learn from Peter Magyar’s victory. • Support us on Patreon to join the Oh God, What Now vs Origin Story Podclash on Thursday 30 April. FURTHER READING FROM JASON • Listen to the Disorder podcast with Jason Pack • Ordering the Disorder Substack: The Heart of Europe beats Stronger than ever • How Orban led to Trump. • Hungary’s Lessons for Trump’s Opponents: Viktor Orbán’s critics had to put their ideological differences aside. www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Audio production by Tom Taylor and Robin Leeburn. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Artwork by James Parrett. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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