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You need to get a better name. I'm not kidding Hey everybody welcome to another episode of the Wisps show another one another one actually well This is part two of our poltergeist series and talking with him I think we've got parts three and possibly parts four in the works Yeah, but we won't go past part four why are we dragging this out because we can't well see last episode was our 50th episode And we didn't make a big deal about it like life on the rocks Like oh my god, we did 50 episodes. We're so awesome and Those bitches We should have cake right Tim had ronions I'm sitting next to you. Yeah, you chose to you like I do like five these people off to sit next to me So let me get straight Tim had ronions no deodorant He's been out in the sun for four hours, and he hasn't brushed teeth in a week Do you see no one or nobody sitting within 10 feet of Tim?
That's okay? I clean up my chicken go right before I came So I'll sit next to you. She was looking some chickens before I was I was you know, it's funny as the women were fighting over who gets it next to me So large guy the salman now from Not yet yet yet yet. No, but when you do that we got some questions so if you leave some good of you I will say hello, and I'll press you over I should probably go through and introduce everybody real quick Why because nobody listens to the show so it's like a first time for everybody Whatever I look like one time and I thought I saw something like 2,000 people listen to our show I think it'll be more than that.
I don't have access all the numbers actually the numbers look fantastic our show and life on the rocks are both They're phenomenally well, where I believe the second third most listen to show we are the first second third most Show's on the night. We're running who's second and who's third though? That's not like it keeps it's kind of like a tie We're like right there I think they're a little bit ahead because they record every week and we're every other week You know I gotta say Tim sent me a list of most listen to episodes of the other day. Oh my god.
It was awesome What does it matter with you? Slenderman is number two an item. That's why it is number two It's like the word episode really funny because like it had dropped down because like every week a new episode coming out That would be number one and then like Slenderman creeped back up to the top of the list Okay, if you can hear my voice Let your hand slap your face at the table episode I don't know why people are listening to it. Oh, you know exactly why they're listening to it because we're like go back and listen up Oh, okay, look on it's an awesome episode Talk about how shitty Slenderman was everyone's like oh, I got to see for myself Yeah, and I'm surprised we got any listeners left after Slenderman I thought I'd encourage much discussion and encourage So I'd like after 15 minutes.
I'm like, okay, um, let's talk about it. I said not to do it So we're gonna do it. I still have them listen to it. There's definitely not missing that damn thing so introductions Yeah, so I am your host Castle and with us tonight on my left We've got lurch woman and to my right.
I've got Brandi aka Peaches. Hello. Hello, and we've got Tim aka beaker What's happening and filling in tonight for Deann? We've got Laura from life on the rocks.
You mean replacing Dan forever Okay, you were an odd Dan Aka Willa so I'm yeah, you know what? Don't you have a nickname since Laura? Since Laura doesn't have a And the end it's a Sunday K just like or maybe we need to give Laura a super name you can't you can't command people to give you a Nick name Gary it comes from us for the moment. It's Laura.
Yeah, Laura. You don't know Why are you wearing sunglasses? There's no you I gotta say anybody who listens to both of our shows is getting a whole lot of Gary in a whole lot of Laura these next couple weeks Yeah, because the episode where you are on our show is coming out the same day that this is coming out and it's a two part It's a two part. Yep.
It's a two part. The whole lot of our swiss we're gonna cuz look at his shoes This is people's because people suck people do suck and even dead people suck like some of the spirits we run into So I don't know any punches you in the face. No, I love any it's like Marcus sucks and mean people suck I'm not a swallow And they're and I'll not be fixing the explicit label to our So last time when we were on well before we could go on somebody want to talk about anything that's happened recently since we recorded last Well, I have something cool to happen a couple days ago, but it wasn't since I recorded I don't record with you. No, I know I played all by itself and I got really excited Tell us your strength great detail I picked all three of my kids piano and so I'm very when they go to practice I listen and make sure doing it right and they'll go in and kind of play a few notes before they get their books out And so I thought one of them was doing it and so I would I heard it waited about 30 seconds I wanted to see what said child was doing and nobody was in there and I went to see what they were outside not even Around something so I've just decided that her stripper name is karma karma.
Yeah, we're gonna call her karma I'm gonna see your okay. What's more tacky? Okay? Okay?
Yeah? Lara aka karma all right, so I Think it's a bit quiet for being a sign a stripper and I'm just like yeah, how they know Wait, they're on to me. That's really what I'm gonna say to me. I didn't say chastity so So we went on an investigation last night to a location that we were asked to keep secret Like mildly super secret so it's kind of We're just we're just honoring the the wishes of the building owner Tim do you want to get started on what we did last night and now it went we talked to ghosts, you know There's no dead air there he just jumped like we talked to ghost he's okay.
Let's go well Not it's interesting because we're in the basement of this particular building and we the basement of the Alamo Yes, we're in the basement and I was a you can who asked or was it Paul else was with us the best This is after I came and come down and he's like can you give us some sign you're here and the lights turned on yeah And then right back off and we're like holy cow that's the coolest thing ever can you do it again? And sure shit the light came back on and we're like holy shit This is a cool thing ever and then the rest of the group like came out of the stairs was terrible They just turn the lights on yeah, so a second group was with us was trying to turn lights on Or turn lights off I think where they're at in the process turn our lights off and on but they did it in perfect command to us asking They're literally like hey, can you give us some sign you hear we want to talk to you the lights came on right back off Can you do it again and I shit you not as soon as he said it the lights came right back on and everybody the basement I've been laughing my ass off had I been there Well, that's kind of how we felt after you realize it was just a good trip I had to turn lights off in their area, but it was it was fun. Um, I Want to talk about the the noises you guys had I know towards the end of the night We're about ready to wrap up kid and I and Paul were all sitting in the basement and We heard what sounded kind of like some a couple of steps right above us And then we heard like two loud thumps like someone had fallen over someone got tackled or something So we came upstairs to check it out and everyone was like fine. No one had fallen over like you guys didn't even hear the noise that we heard I don't know it literally sounded like someone got tackled right above us Yeah, I was with lurch right above them and we were sitting perfectly still did knock anything over were just quietly antagonizing the Type 2 spirit that hangs out in that particular area.
Um, his peaches shincher has Yeah, that was part of a conversation to us. We've antagonized enough. I wonder why I'm saying to Texas and ask us what we're doing At one point I went up to the third floor where Cain was and as I came up Cain was like, oh gosh They really hate you It's because I'm the instigator and the antagonizer, you know, it's interesting I was in the basement near the beginning of the night Lurch and I both actually heard an audible growl. Yeah, in fact, I thought it was I kind of like a semi-stemic just growl And I came forward or lurches on he's by himself and I came from behind me into my right.
Yeah, I was gonna say it wasn't you To my right emphasis on to my right Behind me it wasn't my stomach growing so you mean to the right yeah, I love I mean I'm on the same way. I was trying to talk about my podcast. I can't I can't but it's okay. We're very naughty I'm very sorry they're going to go.
So oh my god No, I'm done. That's Sheila. Yeah, I'm not one of those with Carousel I'm so I'm so I'm so there should never be used on a podcast tonight I want to strangle people when they say that you know it's actually interesting though because last night for that particular location We've been to it before it was relatively quiet. We're getting a lot of kids activity Um, oh that's one thing though is the ghost meter pro is freaking out the first part of the night I've never seen it do that it was like flashing off and on and buzzing and doing all kinds of weird crap So I don't know what the deal with that and it wasn't a battery issue because I've moved it to somewhere else I'm doing it work just fine if no issues the previous time that I've been there I had been in the basement I heard audible footsteps a couple times and so I was expecting the same sort of thing But no, it was pretty quiet I kept my recorder running a lot of the night So I'm hoping there's some good EVPs when I go back and review it because like I said I antagonized some of the the naughty I did hear some audible whispering too and I went looking for caden I'm one of the floors.
There was nobody on the floor But I heard whispering and I don't sound like someone that said my name That's actually a location where I've heard a lot of audible growls and noises of sorts of that particular location The person that maintains the building has shared more than a few Very very noticeable audible growls. I use your quarter as well. Yeah, anyway, we will if we get any good evidence We will share it back. I think we're almost due for another EVP show It's been a long time since you guys played any that's because they're kind of in the ass I'm gonna lie well I don't get any because they asked me for everything well It's also due to the fact that I probably got eight or nine investigations of EVPs that I need or I just need to go through They're telling us about you Shut up Doing it okay, man, I started going through it in hours So I have a great intro story of it actually has to do with the building that you guys were just talking about and then the topic We're gonna talk about today.
I'm a I can lead us right in and sorry. I do have gestures when I talk I don't know why I just do so I was on a investigation and said building super secret location It's a secret it's a reflection it's only a question. Okay, anyway, we were in the basement and I was holding what's the one where it says words Thank you that one. I was holding it and one of the main guides I don't know what investigators said was talking about how ghosts can feed off of and hear things that you fear and for some reason Well, I was holding it I thought of the movie Poltergeist because I grew up in a store for kids and so with my older siblings I just kind of had to watch whatever they were watching and so I watched a lot of inappropriate type things for five six So I saw Poltergeist many many times when I was really little and for some reason that movie popped into my mind And obvious right then said Poltergeist I threw it across the room because it's freaking out so bad And I turned to the person next to me and I said can I read your thoughts and it or can they reach your thoughts and he confirmed Yes, they can awesome and anyway I just thought that I would throw that I was gonna forget my story if we started on Because we are gonna be talking about Poltergeist I do want to give one quick shout out That before we get started before I forget and that is to our new listener Sarah in Minnesota Minnesota And Sarah we love you, but we don't know what kind of crazy weird ass order you listen for episodes Yeah, cuz we're trying to figure some stuff out, but we everybody's got nice new mics now Tim is the one who doesn't shut up And lurks is definitely loud now.
No, no, because I want to talk about me. Why do you sometimes? Don doesn't talk He was very adamant about his white buffalo When you get that age So we did talk last time in fact Tim why we're talking do you mind looking at the poll that we put on the pot bash page and see what? Who's winning as far as what type of hunting up ultra guys?
Is whether it's pk or whether it is I'm winning because I'm awesome look at what we're talking So we are going to talk about the actual movie before guys So last time we talked about the actual entities and there's kind of a school of thought if you haven't listen that up So go listen to it'll just make it easier to understand what we're talking about But school thought that it's psycho kinesis from a troubled teenager or What it's it's a demonic hunting or an angry type to or an angry type to I'm kind of on the fence I think it could either direction until I've actually experienced one and I push you on my side of the fence I've never heard anything about living with the angry teenagers. I had never even heard of that there before okay So, you know kind of like Kerry. I've seen movie Kerry. I'm not I'm a part of it But I've never seen Kerry.
No, I can't watch you watch your poltergeist. Thank you I say what which is a fantastic video for our next episode which we're gonna talk to more about Kerry and Yes, it was my idea and psycho kinesis where the hell did you put this poll? It should be on the main page. Did you look up your butt on our face our page?
I'm gonna write yeah on the main pot that page up there. Did you look behind it to your right a little bit? To the left it's not a growl. How many times we sworn already?
It's like what five minutes another recording? I know 15s are all gonna have to go to confession or whatever it is. Yeah, the SPS karma brings out the worst in me Just like what is it? Oh, I'm here.
It really might be hot. I'm winning. What is the score there? Okay, so there's only 17 votes But 53% of those votes demonic haunting 29% of those are psycho kinesis and 18% would be other haunting.
Why is that even an option? Just cuz there might be somebody who doesn't like doesn't okay, so yeah nine five and three but most people agree with me I'm not my vote to that. I would agree. I don't what's it?
Do you agree with the demonic? Oh, okay, so there's ten. Do you get a prize for this? That really I mean yes, a gloating Prize in lurch's world or that's large and his world.
Sorry, I get right. So we're often confused. That's them Yes, so often confused people like I've had people like yeah I had people like yeah, I got my kids wrong names I've had people like they've emailed us and like yeah, well, we're talking about this and I'm trying to really like I wasn't there at all That's not me so I've been confused for lurch and now apparently silent dawn. So I just I don't know but I need to change my voice Chunga help me Maybe you're talking radio and answer for important if you could get the whole you know streaming live they might not compete as much Well, I sometimes I don't want to do that.
Yeah, what I see we're working on that. We're missing a very important stream Alright, so really across the streams across the stream very important across the stream That's not bad though. That's 70% in your favor because if you lump in demonic haunting another haunting together That's 70% right here normal because the force isn't real I'm gonna buy him sushi as every wall. I probably should anyway, we'll see what I was doing maybe yeah, I do Tris it is okay.
I've already got the gift card. So I guess she's where we go Okay, so let's talk about the movie poltergeist now We actually I know there's the old one and the new one we are gonna come on sucks Yeah, so we're gonna talk about the poltergeist the original and we're gonna kind of do it kind of a movie review and kind of as a critique of real life or Basically approaching it from paranormal aspect. I guess is what I'm trying to say So let's let's get started on that One thing that I noticed right off the bat with the movie that was kind of interesting is the Carol Ann They away from the like here, man. Who is the main?
Focus yeah, I was gonna say protagonist pretty sure she was a protagonist Yeah, I mean, yeah, she's definitely the bad guy in this one She's so cute But right off the bat she can hear the spirits and nobody else can now from a real investigative standpoint real investigations dealing with spirits What has been your experience lurch as far as that kind of thing is I'm sorry. I was I was lost in Tim's amazing beard and deep brown eyes Randy was actually running After the show sorry, can you be the question please? Carol Ann was able to hear voices. Huh?
She's never heard the spirits before anything kind of happened. Yeah, what has been your experience as far as children in the home? Experiencing activity versus my children just any children any children I based on all the investigations we've done and what you know and what you've experienced well I know that the very first EVP that I've picked up and I've talked about this before was at the 749 in Twilla and that was an audible EVP that I heard with my my naked ear I'm just naked my naked ear of Christian who we believe is like a you know a child spirit That's that's living there and very audibly I heard him say mommy I'm over here and I've talked about this before but I mean it's very clear That's really the only thing that I've oh and I know that we've we've gone a few other locations You've picked up some recordings of you know a child saying hi when you're going around introducing yourselves And you can hear that there's a child there that obviously wasn't there in person Does that answer your question? No, but it's great answer So if I could jump in here because I know there's been a couple of investigations where he hasn't been on that we have School there was the one where there's currently going through Yeah, so there was the little boy at the residential we did that he could see everything that's going on in the house and That's the one we did where we learned our cleansing process And then there was one that we went to we've talked about it a little bit where we helped a lady Reunite with her uncle who had passed away I go ahead it feels so good The daughter the daughter had a hearing impairment, but she was actually able to kind of see some of the spirits that were in the house as well So we've been on a couple investigations where the children have been able to see or hear the spirits and all you know And we've actually had more than that there's been a few were parents talking about their young children talking to things Seeing things but it's not uncommon talking to just random people you know when they get on the subject of a the paranormal Oh, yeah, my baby's just always looking off this weird corner and we smell grandpa who's been dead for 10 years Yeah, wasn't wasn't there like a Facebook mean that someone posted about wanting to train their youngest daughter to that?
Whenever they go to guest house, they're like mommy the evil man is looking at me I want to do that. I just turned four yesterday. I want to train him to do that There's a tall man in the corner that's staring at me. He looks angry.
That's funny Your kids have an experience Yeah, we talked about it a few times the truck man if anybody listen to our podcast they've heard that story even Thinking more recently with my oldest who has autism and I think that makes him a little more susceptible to things He came up and it's been I don't know four or five months ago He's a mom quit knocking on my bedroom door and I've been upstairs the whole time So I know that he hears those things and every once in a while He'll just mention something and I'll just kind of play off of it We have very open and honest discussions about ghosts and spirits and stuff and not one of those parts I think there's no such thing I want to know why he's asking and then I'll probably a little bit deeper but Even more recently my middle son had a friend over firstly over and the friend came upstairs and said who's the Indian in your basement? Yeah It's a popsicle. I mean then I did have a conversation, but yeah, I've had plenty of experiences work with my kids I was like, okay, you are still seeing things they're a little older now, but yeah And so it's not uncommon at all for children to pick up on things long before adults do yeah Like when I saw any of my first time I would just go outside and be talking to her But it looked like I was just talking to myself like I was one of those crazy kids that didn't have any friends You know when being the father of three myself I can say that with all of my kids when they've been newborns I've been holding them in my hands sitting on the couch and And when they started writing and start shaking no when went no shut up I wouldn't shake my child any of them, but I'd be like holding them on the couch And they would be looking over my shoulder and smile and I know there's no behind me But it's like I think when you're young that that that veil between the the world's I think is thinner And I think children are able to see through that stuff So I don't know if anything was even there at all or if it's just you know then smiling because they're learning how to smile But I remember many times playing with all three of my kids and I'd be you know bouncing them on my knee And they'd look over my shoulder and just start smiling so there you go You know and so that was back to the original part of the question with that is yeah that part of the movie I actually thought was very consistent with what we've experienced what studies have shown Well, they were actually if I'm working she was hearing the voices through the white noise that the TV was making I remember this is back in the 80s When TV channels actually did not have something playing all night long and if you left your TV on the middle night That's what you had was white noise This is gonna take me but I actually remember that when I basically play the national anthem and shovel colored bars and the TV go Yeah, yeah, yeah, go to white noise Yeah, so that's when she was actually hearing the voices was the white noise You know, I'm so old I actually remember when MTV used to play music videos So weird That though with the white noise portion is the first video there is a video If you think about it is a video killer superstar. Yeah points lurch.
Um, what's interesting about though I mean if you look at the SB 7 spirit box and you look at even the echo box Those are both devices that play off of white noise to hear spirits speak So I'm guessing that was probably unintentional on the part of the creators, but kind of interesting will tie in I remember probably about 12 years ago, too going to see I'm sorry to interrupt your conversation go ahead. I was just saying something pointed. It's not a big deal I was just going to say that I remember about 12 years ago is going to see the movie white noise I think with Michael Keaton Oh, yeah And that was before I had any you know interest in the paranormal you know investigating the paranormal had any involvement in it and Yeah, that's that's my story right there. Usually my stories Just like in the middle way not so much an end Way to end your story DM like that she's gonna hate me I know I know she doesn't go back and listen to these episodes because she's not on them But if Dion is listening to this we do love you both of you You know what's interesting though is going back to the movie though Then things got sinister pretty quickly.
I mean the next step is the pet bird died Oh, yeah, and in the movie they don't really specify whether that's paranormal or not But we've had instances where Birds are died. Yeah, we had a home. We did something with a cat for being attacked Yeah, we in fact I remember going to the basement there like a big blood trail from something happened one of their cats And they're like oh, that's new and I don't know if we were figured out what that was from A lot of chicken style recently thought it was just you coming to my house. Yeah, they're delicious.
Thank you Yeah, thank you have to them to grow up. They need a more salt in their diet. Yeah Those show chickens and I guarantee if you soak them in buttermilk with the secret blood spices It's just yeah, I'll eat chicken with anybody but not my own Chickens do they all have like Do what they want to die though I actually had one day I buried them and I buried under a tree My house is a pet cemetery I have so many We're talking about whole for guys And people are so big You need a euthanized and fry You guys are the peak of their life back on top of it So we have had instances where we had that birds. There's a home in probably investigated where they had numerous dead birds show from the home That's just cats that was well, you know what house that was just to protect our clients I'm gonna say the name they were having all kinds of issues at that particular home So that was kind of shooting with the movie to where they have that going on So next item on the show is they had the TV channel change which is I thought was interesting because we have had people talk about TV channels changing TVs turning on So true, you give me a look yeah I'm giving you like the TV channels changing because the guy next door at the same clicker Exactly and I'm glad you brought up the guy in the clicking war They kept changing it from the football game to mr.
Rogers and the beautiful thing about that was a lot of times Like our story with the light down the basement last night If you take a minute and be bunk something because that's the first thing we did is when they came down We said did you guys screw the light we want to make sure it was Them and not something they almost died dogs barking And so yeah, that was debunked in the movie But hold on speaking of channel changing Annie she's all pulled to guys But she likes to change the channels and she likes to fast forward she likes to play with their own equipment too I was like to ask that's not technically doesn't have to be pulled her guys cuz everyone's from all our TV will I'll turn off I'll turn back on well anything was alive and TV didn't even exist Oh, so she's like this is cool So now that she knows what TV is and she we have like the whole TV acting fast forward and whatever so if I'm sitting there Just like watching the commercials should get all pissed off and should like I don't want to watch this Fast forward to the commercials. She'll get all upset. It's funny And if she's like when I'm watching show you they'll run off somewhere else Or she'll tell me to change the channel and I'll have to go through the guide and like say stuff out loud So she finds something that she wants to watch funny I think I've had her mess with my car radio before same thing with the yeah with the radio She doesn't like what you're listening to so you know It's in this kind of goes back to our original premise of is it psycho kinesis or is it spirit because a lot of the activity can be The same in fact in the poltergeist movie much of the activity and the whole premise of the movies that it's paranormal versus psycho kinesis But a lot of the activity there's consistent more paranormal stuff than the psycho kinesis thing Yeah, I mean like so you have during the breakfast scene where the kid picks up his orange juice and his class breaks and shortly after the fork is bent in Like some weird configuration well and then the pet start behaving strangely as well We get tons of reports of pets behaving strangely. I don't know that we've had any bent silverware Chairs or stacked up chairs or sliding across the kitchen room on your bum You know that's one thing about the show though that kind of I thought was I wasn't terribly excited about that I thought that kind of went over the top and I understand it's Hollywood and it was the 80s But I think most people let me ask you Lara as a mother yes as a beautiful mother If you went to make breakfast and I'll send your chair restacked up, what would your first thought be?
Oh shit Okay, it'd be my very first thought now if you put a chair in a spot and it slides if you put anything in one spot in the kitchen It slides 15 feet across the kitchen. What is your next thought? What is your next move? Gosh, I mean, I'm not a newbie to this and so I don't know how actually freak out.
I would be because I've seen stuff move by itself I think that I would try to see if I could replicate it again and then if it happened again I would just go one of you and probably take myself out to meters until you could come you know And that's the that's the part about the movie that kind of struck me a little odd because it's like she's all excited about it Yeah, she's definitely not familiar with this kind of activity. Hey cool. Check this out She put a football helmet on her kid and have a kid fly across the floor his reaction was a little more Really he was like yeah, no goes in the kitchen until we figure out what the hell's wrong And that is a more realistic reaction that's one thing with the movie I thought and then the activity from there in the movie just really ramped up quite dramatically Well, that's when you get like a level and put it on your floor Yeah, yeah, the bunk mode like I mean it was almost immediately the tree starts attacking the kid Yeah, that part was and I think in reality and again I understand we're talking about a Hollywood movie but in reality I think the minute the tree attacks when your children that house is getting burnt to the ground And you go get a room at the motel six for a month and a half until insurance pays out We'll see the reason why they didn't do that though is because they're gonna movie well No, the tree was actually distraction, which is not uncommon in a demonic haunting They were actually distracting us the family they attacked the kid because while they were all outside trying to save the kid Is when Caroline got sucked into the portal and he was it? I'm trying to eat the kid that was like yeah, they could have done better They could have but for the point of the movie though But basically that was that was the poltergeist or whatever trying to distract the family And get their attention elsewhere kind of like what I felt like last night when we were in that room and the K2s were going off I kind of felt like they were trying to distract us because they were trying to go after another one of the investigators in a Different part of the building they were just trying to focus your attention here So you don't see what's going on over there We know in a situation you say that not to straight you far from the topic I think this fits but there was a point last night where it was you me lurch caden Paul else was there And we were talking with one of the types of respects that was there in the building and Caden and yourself to him thought that basically it wanted to kind of separate us and divide us up a little bit Yeah, and at one point I was just having on several of us I felt that too and I actually at one point We kind of like everybody come upstairs and I love everybody but sometimes when the entire group comes up to where I'm at sometimes I just kind of need some Investing in space if you will and so when everybody start coming up and kind of you know There's 10 or 15 people on spot and like yeah, I need to find my own space And so I actually went down to another room that was kind of off out of the way of everybody and was down there And I generally do not run away from anything when I investigate I go in the scary places I deal with the scary stuff.
He runs from me It's exactly what I was doing last night too was I was intentionally trying to separate myself so that I could get something to No, anyway, so I ended up going to a room kind of by myself and I was there for about 10 minutes I was very quiet. I was just by myself and as I was in there I Start feel kind of a pressure on the back of my neck Almost as if somebody's kind of doing the whole vice group thing on the back of my neck regulation estimation is not a good thing That's called self-orotic asphyxiation. How do we ride a conversation? Yeah, it's not a way.
It's not a pretty way to go It's what I think is. Thank you David Carradine. Yeah, Michael's type So I wasn't really and I'm gonna live in dive autorotic asphyxiation David Carradine did yeah, and so did Mike's type of an excess Okay, so you're saying okay, so I was in the room and I start filming this kind of pinch on the back of my neck a pressure I shouldn't say pinch but a pressure and as I'm in there I Start to feel kind of lightheaded and hot and I just kind of got this I shouldn't be in here Hydration and I got this I shouldn't be in here vibe and so after a few minutes I thought you know what I'm probably getting attacked I probably need to not be here by myself and so I got my gear and I got out is interesting because probably not five or ten minutes later I've gone downstairs to where Lurch was at to talk to another spirit that's there in the building and I heard Him come down with some of the other people who are there investigating with us and heard someone say yeah I was getting nauseous and like he's basically describing the exact same kind of a Feelings that I was getting in that room basically describing more or less an attack And so it does it kind of goes back to the distract divide and conquer kind of thing Well, and I mean Kaden and I were getting the vibe the entire night Like he said that they were trying to separate us and when all four of us were in the upstairs together You could tell that it was passed that we were all with each other especially when we started forming the circle around it Right, and you know I was thinking about that late last night and early this morning that you know when you watch like ghost adventures Apparently I'm a lockdown. That's what they do is at the end of the night.
They'll they'll separate each other They'll intentionally say like you know you go to this part of the building by yourself I'll go over here by myself It's because they know that they're making themselves more susceptible to Whatever's there to you know feel inclined to come forward and try to communicate or interact with them now I should probably throw a disclaimer in here really quick while we're talking about this unless you're a very experienced investigator And even then don't do it. I do it with a ton of caution because even I do it more than most but I again I know what to what I'm looking forward when I feel like I will get out if I feel like there's an issue like I did last night And I thought about it would be fun actually to to sleep at a place like that overnight To know experience what that might be like if something might want to interact with you while you're sleeping touch you poke you Spent with you spoon with you. Yeah, lick your face Make it known you're gonna make a little sign for that. I know beforehand It's these two I don't there's no question Tim is the ladle the middle school Anyway, let's get back to the the pleurgeis movie So one of my favorite things with movies a new term that I think we need to adopt and use in all our investigative a lot of psychotronic energy going on in here I don't know if they had well, I know they had EMF in the 80s But I don't know if they had a work for EMF in the 80s, but I called it psychotronic Psychotronic energy Psychotronic energy Because I'm boots It's my arnold sample that put that on his next His next mix now one thing that I was busy getting chicken sandwiches son Now one thing I thought was in the movie though is the activity did seem to focus around Carol and the child Carol and Which is consistent with an actual poltergeist haunting It wasn't focused on the Sun.
It wasn't focused on mom It was all on Carol and and they had that strange portal in the closet now We've actually dealt with portals and portals or something we've talked about in length on the show That's not that older teeny daughter that was like hey I'm here and then disappears and then at the end of the movie she's like jumping out of a car screaming What's going on? It's like where have you been getting he's apparently can she have a little hickie over neck? That's some great parental supervision right there. Yeah, and I don't want it from a cinema from a somatic perspective I don't know why they had her in the movie because she served absolutely zero up a zero point She was the slut of the movie they all have one.
Yeah, she was in the movie for maybe like 45 seconds Let's be honest. It was the 80s and when they have a movie slut there's usually a gratuitous boob shot Yeah, that was was a slasher for that was the 80s. I'm not Friday the 13th She was one of the actresses or I guess the more PC terms call it when an actor with your male females She's one of the actors that died. Yeah from the poltergeist curse Yes, and we were and Caroline Special parts never mind forget what I said special parts There for some sort of comic relief is her yeah, she made no sense Yeah, I couldn't figure out why what the thought process was putting her in there because it's kind of a character that just served no Purpose whatsoever.
I mean they could have very well done with both the care land and the Sun Staunction sidebar whatever. Yeah, and so I don't know why they put her in there Now one thing that I thought was interesting is at one point they had jewelry and everything else falling from the ceiling That is actually fascinating because there have been documented accounts of things appearing out of nowhere There was a case that in the rain warne were involved in where there was actually rocks raining down inside the living room of a home Oh, I'm sorry my foot just hurt from all the names you're dropping go ahead and say no rain warne go ahead is one There's no cases, but no they had documented cases We had stones raining down inside the home to have another case I mean to him we talked about this last time we recorded to me the name of the family that had the rock running outside on their home No, I'd have to look it up, but there's another case I was actually witnessed by police officers passerbyers where large rocks with fiss-sized rocks are running down on top of the home It's called hail from outside their actual rocks like not hillstones like actual like stone stones Okay, or if you watch AHS American Horror Story, that's On one of them they have teeth. I have stormy teeth running outside the home I'd rather have the fiss-sized rocks. Yeah, the new steps of American Horror Story they had teeth raining down outside That's exciting.
That's actually awesome So that was interesting because that is actually a documented phenomenon that has shown up in some more extreme cases and extreme cases I'm talking about the Amityville level extreme cases not you know your average home hunting At one point in the movie there was a physical bite on the researcher. Yes. I can see Tim or their feverishly looking at case study stuff He's actually just checking his face on board Look, do you want to talk about scratches and bites that we've seen no okay? I've never personally been scratched or bitten, but I know people that have Off-ride by theater Greg as with Greg Pascal.
Yeah, I think we've been on investigations Like I know you've been there too, Brandy where people have been like you can bite me or scratch me and you're just like I see you Standing behind me just like shaking your head. No like what the hell you say? Poke me touch me bite me scratch me But no, I've never been have you ever been poked or scratched or bitten or anything like that? I'm a pricey never been scratch.
I would watch you. I don't want to touch it. I've been scratched. I mean I'd be okay with like Feeling something like you know a hand being placed on me or a finger.
See I'm cooking me, but no I don't want any scratches or marks, you know three lines. You guys watch me get scratched by a physical person But well that was being controlled by something You know, I've been touched like where we touch where do they touch you? Oh my head not in my head I'm a little head whoa, I've had my arm grabbed You know, I've never really been scratched or bitten by Katie. It's bit all the time Anyone that wants to scratch me can't he gets punched in the mouth.
Yeah, I don't ask for those things I never have that happen. Yeah, I came to scratch last night hit a pretty good scratch crush his leg last night I was at the Salt Lake City County Building saw somebody has three scratches put right down the back of somebody's neck I got a picture from their bright red three bright red scratches back in this guy's neck And so stuff like that's actually fairly common if you come out of investigation There's a pretty good likelihood that you're probably gonna get scratched or bit even choked out badly Yes, but that was physically by you under the control of something else. Well, you know, we were talking about last night with The British got spanned of being choked and yeah Chunga, I believe had his finger dislocated. Yeah Mm-hmm Now some of the stuff in movies just let out hokey like when the researcher there at the house goes to get some fresh chicken out of the fridge They start ripping his face off in the mirror.
Well, there's there's a magazine That was awful the steak like the steak like ripped open right first of the crawl across the counter and then it rip up And all sorts of bugs and stuff came out. There's maggots on the fried chicken They started ripping his face off. Jello was he's way too much of the prop during this movie way too much. Thank you Stephen Spilberg But yeah, that was I've not another of any cases where that has happened I know there's been reports of a excessive flies and insects in certain cases Amityville talked about excessive flies that would appear in just as spread in nowhere That how it's been one of those things with Amityville that's kind of in the air as to whether that was something embellishments done by The author that book versus what was real the book Amityville is actually fantastic read but At the same time they've openly come out and said that some of the things that happened so the activity described in the book Amityville is Dramatized.
Yeah, fabricated heavily dramatized Which is part of the reason that Amityville gets so much grief is an investigation because it's kind of hard to draw the line Between what is fact and what is fiction? Which is why Amityville such a What's what I'm looking for controversial such a controversial no, I'm sure the activity there is still off the chain But yeah, I've read stuff for the family that currently lives there. So they've never experienced anything really well And that's not common too because you know we know from experience that that type of spirit cannot sometimes just kind of Hang out there until the perfect storm arises You know the right person moves in who's susceptible and do you see that bit of Eddie Murphy stand up? Where he's like the difference between black people white people you know white people move into new home and they hear a sound your voices Get out.
They're like, oh honey, let's stay for a while and see what it is black people move in get out come on We're out here get your stuff. Let's go Now one thing that was kind of interesting to it at the end of the movie is when it got really hokey Well, it's a little bit before that is I find interesting is when they got the investigators there They did mention that Like a haunting is attached to the location and last for quite a while where as a poltergeist activity is attached to an individual Unless for sure pre-to-time, which is more or less accurate But when they went upstairs to show them the girls room where she got sucked into the portal like the whole room was just Everything was spinning in circles and everything was flying around and like there was just it was like there was no activity The house whatsoever except for that one bedroom where literally everything just look like it was in a slow-motion tornado going around the room Right in the sand firmware. There's a whole horse toy that was kind of doing its own little thing and Ridiculously scary clown That's he just tells about running closely scary clown doll. Yeah, that's your part, isn't it?
No, no, it's not I had to bow my head and I refused to watch it because I didn't I told her I wouldn't hold a tri-insula That's that's that's so dull and clowns I'm why I can't even talk I like look at people ask why I'm like because of poltergeist. That's why it's a Damn I will fully support your fear Because of the movie it Venerous all that oh my god. Oh my god. My I just finished we all float down here As she was decided that she didn't put restriction on movies and such that she was gonna watch the movie yet And then I could watch it with a age five, you know, and so that whole there was my sub older For the first time I realized Tim Curry played Pennywise the clown I couldn't take the movie seriously Tim Curry is the best Pennywise that was a phenomenal made-for-TV series it was a great actors everything I've seen Tim Curry and up until that point was more or less comedy so as soon as I saw Tim Curry as Pennywise the clown I could not tell you seriously Frank and Ferrer yes, Dr.
Frank of the game. Yeah, I just got to read that book Because I'm there are Mr. Body from clue. Oh, yeah, but it's not the actor.
It's what he plays. Yeah, yeah No, but that's a great story I like I said I just got to finish reading the book because they're doing the remake that's gonna come out here and fall and I wanted to Refamiliarize myself But yeah, twelve hundred pages took me about two weeks to get through that bad boy I'm all is reading I kept talking to people about made-for-TV series and I guess I work with a bunch of really young people that don't know anything Oh no never seen it. Oh gosh. Do you still have a favor and watch it?
I've never seen it. Oh, you're moving night And I will not be watching you. I will not be watching what you've told. I might watch the remake.
Sorry you I thought was kind of weird like I know portals exist like we've dealt with those before but the fact that she was actually able to go through the portal And their little midget medium that they brought in I was been here. Oh, I am carolane Carolane and she's stuck in another dimension. Yeah go a lot higher. I can't do it, but I'm sorry my balls dropped when I was 12 I don't know if you've noticed this but my voice is kind of deep so Okay, I guess that's like that's like like that Like I can you know if you use your very white boys people just doing it you better from large Can't get enough of your love babe my darling I Can't get enough of your love Castle Castle I was good back to you talking about the fact that yeah, she went through the portal which I As far as I know it's not possible for a living person to travel through a portal Then they actually like come up with this plan where they tie a rope around the mother and Was it the I thought it's the father?
No, the father was antagonizing the spirit. Oh, that's right I want the mother went in after the Carolina if they're in the small than she went in yeah So she went in after the daughter She's actually go able to go in and retrieve her from this alternate dimension where there was and this part I do agree with where there was a spirit there that And this is typical in demonic hauntings that was trying to Convinced carolane that he was good. He was a friend and you know do what I say because you know friends It was also trying to keep all the other spirits from crossing over into the light right Yeah, but I think that's what she was I think that her whole thing was is if she had the ability to help people cross over And it was trying to keep her from being able to do that by convincing her that it was something friendly child Like I think it's what the medium is right. I never understood that when I was little But then when I watched it yesterday for the first time in 25 years or so To do that I was like oh, yeah, I'm having a couple plasm on you not not so real but Having the demonic spirits try to convince children I mean Lucy's a perfect example that where she's appears as a little girl trying to convince people that she's a nice friendly spirit with dark With no eyes eyes What was interesting the movie though is the focal point and why this whole while they actually even started in this particular home was Because the house was built on a cemetery Where they hadn't moved the bodies they just picked up the headstones and the fence and moved all that's done to left the body What do you think they would figure out when they start digging the swing pool and the movie but I can't imagine you to do Doing a swing pool before you figured out that there's tasks down there, but I hate to ruin the Hollywood illusion There were no vaults either there were no vaults.
That's true. That's that was a vault driver for two years and a funeral director And a funeral director for ten so I'm gonna kind of steer this question towards you there peaches No, damn it. Okay. That's it for the show.
Thanks everybody for tuning now. Um, so they built this home its neighborhood on a cemetery Seeing as you how you can see and speak with and hear spirits Letter to tell our audience a little bit about what you see when you go to any cemetery what? Okay, so a lot of times when I drive past them or I go in them intentionally There's a lot of spirits either hanging out over their own grave because either they don't know they're dead or they're not ready to move on a lot of them are spirits of other people that have passed their family members so the actual person died But their family members can't get over it and they're hanging out near their other family members grave and in the fall Or there's like the mausoleums where they're just like kind of just wandering around the building because in a mausoleum They're all put into a wall and they all talk at once and it's really really loud and it's just obnoxious However in a cemetery, there's not as many children's spirits as they're all adults where it's for some reason so in an average cemetery How many spirits would you say and I know I'm kind of it's very so much from size to size But like the salt like what I've got something like because I think my kids at the scavenger hunt their last week It was a call how many spirits are showing out like cemetery so I have never been to like cemetery so I can tell you Road trip Where lurch used to work how many I used to work at the cemetery I've been to the cemetery when I used to deliver vaults I've traveled to almost every cemetery in the state and even got couple outside the state well Then she's to work a location that had a cemetery I've worked at a couple different locations that had on-site cemeteries But yeah one in particular yeah, I've visited the one that you're also a mausoleum yeah There was probably out of like those square footage that I was able to see that was probably a good at least six dozen Spirits now that's cemetery that you're referring to Upwards of 40,000 people so a small town is populated when I mean when when the resurrection happens It's gonna be like super crowded. They're all gonna sit up at once or that's actually a row 40,000 body 40,000 And that was about three or four years ago, and I think after this recording I don't know where this is because that's gotta be huge.
It's where yeah I'll talk to you about it. I'm seeing like I said like a lot of people choose to pass But a lot of people don't so and that was just like outside like inside the mausoleum part There were a lot I Again, I could probably count take just kind of guess on what you think there was they were all in there Weren't they oh there's quite a door we walked in there and you're like oh my gosh It's a party and they all and I see they'll stop talking and look to the specs we came into yeah There was at least a good, you know 75 or more spirits in there So I know so a house being built on an old cemetery could very easily be just crawling with spirits Yeah, that's definitely so that part of the movie actually is probably a fairly good analogy As far as the kind of activity and the level activity based on that is probably not Proportionate short of a major demonic content or psycho kinesis depending on which there you tend to buy into right now towards the end of the Movie the house more or less imploded I can tell you with certainty that I am not where any case is ever anywhere You mean that doesn't happen every time the houses don't just automatically implode well not yet They do in both the movies that we're gonna be talking about Yeah, and so that was definitely a piece of Hollywood fiction fiction or magic is the houses imploding But overall, I mean it was a very Hollywood eyes movie. I don't know if that's the word I've made it up I like it works, you know, it was based very very loosely on Paranormal lore but very loosely is probably the best term I could use you have to have a grand finale a big ending No flash and bam. That's that's what the script asked for now I do have to say and I thought it's kind of amusing and Tim can parrelate this better than anybody based on an attack He had back at the old science building several years ago But when the family moved to motel very end of the movie you see about 20 seconds in awesome the TV get shoved right outside He opens up the door and wheels the TV outside and just leave it there in the rain and Tim I'm gonna let you explain a little bit why I say that's kind of Tim S based on the science building I do you want to go into that a little bit?
No, but what happened to you? No, you don't mind or no, you don't I slept with the lights on for a month. Yeah, Tim had a pretty nasty tech of the science building It was about a month a month a month a month where I maybe got two hours of sleep a night I couldn't the lights had to be on and it still didn't make me feel safe I was just I was so worried that it was gonna find me at my house And what was interesting with that? I just I had to like I said I literally got like two hours of sleep at night It was like the worst month in my life Tim was so badly affected by that that it took a long time for us to get into anything That was even remotely dark after that and I think it's funny We've been family for a couple weeks later.
What do you talking about? It's all psychosis people think because the lights are on that goes to LA. Mm-hmm. Not sure.
No, it's still it You gotta remember this is like when we first joined the team and this is probably like the third investigation I had been on with the team. Yeah, this is pretty new and it's interesting because I talked to a lot people I'm like hey Yeah, come on a ghost investigation with us sometime people are gonna be so scary be so so so frightening and The funny thing is is once you actually get doing it and experiencing it there are moments like one brandy's choking you out in the basement Family tree But really do the field while the horses are going wild but really investigating in itself Is not that scary once you've kind of you know, it's different. Yeah, let me ask you lark as you're kind of new to the show Carman car my mistake. You're new to the show since replacing down with you.
Okay. Okay. Okay. It is So the very very very first time you ever investigated how did you feel before you got started you know I wasn't Gosh, I don't know if I'm a good example because I was kind of at a weird point in my life It was not long after my mom died and I just decided you know what I just don't care anymore about all those things I've been scared to do when there's something I'd always wanted to do so I would say if it if circumstances were different I think I would have been terrified but because I was kind of like hey I'm here to experience and do it that I wasn't really that scared but as the night went on more I did confirm to me that there was no reason to be scared it just was fun and fascinating and Eye-opening so yeah, I just when people say they're too scared to kind of laugh.
I'm like no don't Yeah, yeah, it's different than you think it will be so let me ask you what was your impression or your lead-up thoughts What the very very first time you ever investigated what was kind of your feelings and your thoughts? I remember I remember first talking to Deann on the phone for probably a good hour hour and a half and Just kind of saying you know my only hesitation is that I just don't want anything to follow me home because I remember listening to 119 the end when Chungo was on the radio and they would have their Halloween show and he would talk about going on ghost investigations and The the likelihood of things falling at home and he's talked about that too I know that Spunari's had a tax when he was a kid because they're investing in their home or they've had stuff all of them home And that was my biggest apprehension because you know being a father I don't want anything to harm my children You know I would that would kill me knowing that I was responsible for something that could have been detrimental to my own family So that was that was my main concern was that you know, I just don't want anything to follow me home So talking to her for a while she assured me that you know, we have steps We have measures to prevent that from happening and I remember it was at a silent 49 where we had that first investigation But I don't know Yeah, words are tough first investigation that I went on and I remember sitting in the car before I left and saying out loud like Nothing's allowed to fall me home You're not allowed to fall me home and and like praying multiple times and driving and like praying was driving and talking out loud and saying nothing better Follow me home and yeah, I'm gonna. Did you know that you already had spirits? Yeah, can I interject real quick?
I'm special K second I can't go away right so I One thing I want to say to people is that you don't have to go to investigating for something to follow you home I had to call a brand new What was this about a year ago because something followed me home from family tree and I just went there for dinner I wasn't investigating and I bought one of the details But there was a loose a good projection that intern scared my son and it pissed me off I was really really angry because I knew you guys I was gonna call you and say hey, what's happening and I But here's the thing is that because I kind of knew what was going on because I'd been ghost investigating I was less scared because of it and we were able to just jump right on it and take care of the situation my husband and I and So in that way being part of ghost investigations in the past I think helped that situation because just because you don't go ghost investigating doesn't mean that you're not gonna have something Possibly happen to you, but it will better prepare you if something happens more than likely and I know we've talked about this before more than likely You live in a hundred house, right? You just right exactly. I mean you don't have like things flying around the room You don't have you know dark shadow figures walking all over the place But usually you've got something there and you don't even know it yeah, but it's something could happen and it's I mean it's been It's been like somebody's watching me. So Tim I've got no privacy I'm gonna ask Brandi because Brandy's just being able to see stuff most of her life So but Tim tell me about the first time you investigated and kind of your thoughts and any fears that you had and not All right, good story first investigation I everyone on pizza and I went to a sign of 49 and We honestly I this before I knew that she had the ability that she had but it was it was exciting And I wanted to learn about Paranormal investigating we went with our friend Paul at Grim Ghost choices before you know what kind of met him became friends But he kind of led his little paranormal 101 class and kind of showed us the do's and don'ts of investigating and it was actually it was really fun There was there's one spirit.
I remember in particular I can't remember his name Talk to the Jane Jeremy took a liking to me for some reason and it's like every time we go there It's actually funny because he kind of looks over me kind of like protects me while I'm there from some of the other spirits But yeah, he he talked to us no problem. It was actually really fun because like Brandi and I bought some Gost meter pros and being able to sit there and actually like talk to the spirits using one of those and You know doing the audio recording one not it was really a fun need experience It wasn't until a couple months six months later when we went to the that building and I got attacked that things kind of I started looking at things with a different perspective. I know for me and I don't I don't know they've ever talked about this in the show But first time I ever went investigating It was actually to a public event and I remember I was apprehensive just because I wasn't sure I wasn't scared so much about the activity I kind of had a little bit of lurches apprehension I want to make sure I wasn't gonna invite something into my life that I didn't want to be a part of my life and I also for a religious standpoint had some concerns as to was I tinkering in something I shouldn't be tinkering in was kind of Also in the back of my mind You know, but once I got going and seeing and doing like Laura same kind of thing like you know what there's nothing to be scared of Oh, special. Yeah, my mistake You know, there's nothing to be scared of you know, and I just realized even from a religious standpoint as long as I wasn't tinkering with things I shouldn't be ie we gboards or witchcraft or you know Or sacrificing go to heart sacrificing those hearts as long as I stayed within the bounds of what my religion taught I Wasn't treading where I shouldn't if that makes any sense.
So anyway, so that kind of camera How we've been talking about for guys magical we do that yeah, they welcome the podcasting nothing but pure professionalism here Anyway, we've gone a little over an hour, but we think everybody for checking in whoa whoa whoa, whoa, I just did Oh, well go ahead contest. Oh, yeah. Well, we're gonna talk about that kind of stuff. Let's talk about contest Tim.
Take it away We do have our story contest we have gotten a lot of entry since our last episode We have we haven't quite reached enough though that you get both investigations. We are a few story short So keep those coming there. They're really interesting. I've got a couple favorites already But it's it's right now for me is too close to call especially since the contest is running until June 24th Which is by the time this comes out will be your day If you live in Utah June 24th June 24th, which will be in about a week and a half so your deadline is coming up quick and Tim what are prizes?
First prize don't rely on your mind door number one. We have so our first prize is going to be you're gonna have your story red live on our episode When we record it we're also gonna publish your story in the paranormal veracity magazine That's put together by our friend Paul Welch You will also be able to choose between one of our upcoming investigations to either fear factory or the Benson Griss Mill Flash barbecue investigation and griss Mill yes You will be responsible for your own travel expenses. We will just pay for your way Which is the venue you got to figure out to get yourself here to your time in Utah or if you're at any time you're too lazy We're not going to go up We said if we had ten more entries the winner would get to attend a both investigations And that was where I was gonna go next is if we get enough entries and I guess that we're really close right now Your entry may be the one that pushes it over then we will open both investigations up to you So I mean again the contest is just a short story Two three pages long doesn't have to be very long The story could be fictional or it could be real which surprisingly enough like I'd say probably 90% of the stories We've received have all been real there's only been one fictional as you can say I've noticed that all the stories We got seem to be actual real life experiences What's it kind of interesting so just a short-go story? It could be scary funny whatever you want it doesn't have to be based on actual events It could be something you completely made up please let us know if it's a real or fake story though Yeah, although we probably figured out by the content, but yeah So that is our contest if you're not listening to life on the rocks you need to fantastic show great guests I know They also recently had an episode that came out with our own caden the e-talk any medium and if you really want to hear the episode We talk about the Lucy projecting herself go back and listen to last year's season 2 episode I believe it was called the one with Castle or it's got the word castle in the title quick question though If someone's listening and they don't know how to submit a story How would they go about doing?
Oh, yeah, sorry you can email those stories to either Castle at with org or Timetwist.org Would you for this all to me or not to read them or contact it with stoward or contact it with stoward But yeah, we'll afford all those things we also have an episode called I don't love Lucy where we talk about that night we went for shayla's birthday And we've got a lot of cool e dps including Lucy blowing in my ear. It was super neat Yeah, in fact actually for those who don't listen life on the rocks they do do a pen or a month so if you said do do We don't for a while except for the game, but we'll start doing them again And so they do have some very normal episodes in there and they talk about kinds of fun life stuff And do anything else we need to cover Tim lurch Randy Just kind of lead into our next episode or one of our next episodes just real quick because peaches can see things in video and pictures There is the there is the poltergeist curse that we're gonna be jumping into and one of the episodes so just a kind of a teaser real quick I'm gonna say did you or did you not see actual spirits in the movie? Yes, I did and Oh my gosh, can I sit under watch it with you please? I want you to point them all out Okay, I'll be crabs and then after that I have to watch some more game of crabs some haunted collective thing with Castle and then I have to watch ghost adventures with somebody else We need to do is we need to get a super days and spend more time We'd have a TV show night or something with peaches where we can sit down and watch a bunch of So apparently we'll be some shows that actually doesn't mind me of something else that we do need to talk about as it's getting closer October 7th is the Utah paranormal Expo And there's also supposed to be a top-animal festival the first weekend of November so there will actually be two paranormal events this year If you go to Utah paranormal Expo calm, they've got a very fascinating list of guests lined up for that particular conference Rosemary Ellen Guiley will be there.
She writes co-writes books with John Zappus. So haunted by the things you love She's the co-author of that so you'll be there because you're a groupie probably yes Brian candle from hana collector will be there Elizabeth Saint from Gossip Shepherd time will be there and so that's Utah paranormal Expo calm that site should has got information up there should be more information coming soon, but that looks to be a phenomenal event and then the YouTuber normal festival is also going on a couple weeks later actually about a month later And I don't know I guess they have lined up yet, but this year looks to be some great kind of Paranormal cons if you will so it'll be to this year and they both look to be pretty good I got some great guests lined up. Anyway, thank you everybody for tuning in and we will be back in two weeks with the curse of the poltergeist And we'll be also talking about Kerry coming up soon as well Oh, and then Tim has got some great guests lined up past that Tim John gets just a slight preview of what we got coming special K is coming back We're gonna do another joint we're gonna do another joint investigation with the ladies from life on the rocks Thanks, and we're gonna do another joint I'm just okay. Okay, we'll be joining us as well as Tim Conyers We'll be joining us for that episode as well.
We have we're working on Possibly setting up an interview with the owners of the 749 that's in the works That is in the works that was not confirmed yet what we have confirmed I've been in contact with them We haven't firm to put it but it has been confirmed coming up in August It will be the return of Jimmy Lynn Darling who was on our Popo the killer client episode Yep, she will be coming back. We also have got potentially have Bishop Long coming on to the show We haven't set up a date for that yet. He's a demonologist back East Chris McKinl is a potential guest He's and Rain Warren's grandson Currently runs their organization and we still haven't had bed hands on the show and he keeps empty promises Oh, I used to work with Ben Hanson. We're tight You know what the funny thing with that is is it been probably the easiest one for me to get on the show because I could probably text him right now and he be like what's up, so I don't know why I haven't got on the show I Know lazy I've got another show idea works to have kind of another similar like we're doing right now Where we watch a movie and break it down, but I want to do that one with Chondia And I'm gonna get with him and get the details right now on that one I have a show idea, but if you guys don't want it that I'm gonna do it on my show because I have a show too I think you guys should actually I'm right yeah, right yeah, yeah, I think you should watch the entire movie Both her guys in the near eight while you're doing it and everybody can watch along with you and then brandy can talk about what she's seen I was actually not about it.
I like having on you like when you know you'd put on a wizard of Oz and play dark side I'm in the same time I feel like that involves joints. It did See the way to enjoy Pink Floyd so anyway So that's just kind of teasers and that's kind of lining out through the rest of this year No, no, no because you know what we have to do we have to plan another wisp strip We have to go to Bullard City because it's supposed to be really haunted They have a hospital. Yeah, I want to go there. That's that's just north of Denver, isn't it?
Yeah You know that's I'll look into that a little more We'll just say Colorado Okay, there is a wisp trip in the works to go to Virginia City There is which has got two or three billion or they're highly haunted based on something for me Give it a call Welch. We really hills. We really hills be fantastic. Yeah, waverly hills would definitely be on my bucket list I would love to whatever Anyway, we've gone way over what we should but we appreciate it Like 15 minutes Supernatural hour of wisp we turn into pumpkins.
This is a plus episode beaker Would you go back to standing hotel with me? Yeah, just a Dude you can you could give me road head if you want Sorry was that too much Thanks for today You're listening to the Wisps was at your investigative studies for paranormal sites They're grown as adults to like to sit in the dark and talk to each other But they all love their moms so that should account for something