EPISODE · Sep 2, 2025 · 39 MIN
Product Leadership in Cyber - Tal Herman, Orchid Security - Cyber Security Matters 51
from The Cyber Security Matters Podcast · host The Cyber Security Matters Podcast
Join hosts Harry Baldwin and Matt Rose as they welcome Tal Herman, Chief Product Officer at Orchid Security and former VP of Product Management at Okta, for an insightful discussion about product leadership in cybersecurity. With over 20 years of experience in identity and access management, Tal shares her journey from accidentally stumbling into cybersecurity to building Okta's identity governance business from the ground up. In this episode, she discusses her unique mentorship philosophy, the evolution of product management roles, and the critical talent challenges facing the cybersecurity industry. Key Topics Covered: - Career journey and early influences in cybersecurity - Mentorship approach: asking better questions vs giving answers - Evolution from feature PMs to true product thinkers - Product market fit in cybersecurity: the boulder analogy - Orchid Security's approach to identity fabric and binary-level truth - Advice for aspiring cybersecurity leaders About Tal Herman: Tal Herman is Chief Product Officer at Orchid Security, bringing extensive experience from her previous role as VP of Product Management at Okta. She built Okta's identity governance business from the ground up and has been instrumental in shaping the future of identity security across organisations serving millions of users. About Orchid Security: Orchid Security provides the first true identity fabric enabler, offering binary-level visibility and orchestration across existing identity management systems to uncover and secure hidden applications and behaviours. The Cybersecurity Matters Podcast is brought to you by neuco, a global recruitment agency specialising in sourcing brilliant people for groundbreaking cybersecurity companies.
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Join hosts Harry Baldwin and Matt Rose as they welcome Tal Herman, Chief Product Officer at Orchid Security and former VP of Product Management at Okta, for an insightful discussion about product leadership in cybersecurity. With over 20 years of experience in identity and access management, Tal shares her journey from accidentally stumbling into cybersecurity to building Okta's identity governance business from the ground up. In this episode, she discusses her unique mentorship philosophy, the evolution of product management roles, and the critical talent challenges facing the cybersecurity industry. Key Topics Covered: - Career journey and early influences in cybersecurity - Mentorship approach: asking better questions vs giving answers - Evolution from feature PMs to true product thinkers - Product market fit in cybersecurity: the boulder analogy - Orchid Security's approach to identity fabric and binary-level truth - Advice for aspiring cybersecurity leaders About Tal Herman: Tal Herman is Chief Product Officer at Orchid Security, bringing extensive experience from her previous role as VP of Product Management at Okta. She built Okta's identity governance business from the ground up and has been instrumental in shaping the future of identity security across organisations serving millions of users. About Orchid Security: Orchid Security provides the first true identity fabric enabler, offering binary-level visibility and orchestration across existing identity management systems to uncover and secure hidden applications and behaviours. The Cybersecurity Matters Podcast is brought to you by neuco, a global recruitment agency specialising in sourcing brilliant people for groundbreaking cybersecurity companies.
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