Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to armchair anonymous, but it's not armchair anonymous today. It's a special Experiment episode it is it is very flattering that we were asked to be a part of this Mm-hmm because it's definitely something we've never done before no, but it was cool Backstores. Yes, please tell the back story. Okay, so we have been trying to get Jonah Hill.
Yes on this podcast It seems doable because you're very good friends with him and we had stats on and he was so happy that we had stats on Yes, he's a beautiful person. Yes We've been wanting to have a month for quite a long time and it just hasn't worked out You'll find it annoying, but it's very sincere and I support it It's counterproductive to what he's trying to do with his own mental health to come in and talk about stats Yeah That feels like a betrayal and probably would ruin the experience with the activity of it. Yes, so I get an email from Apoplicist and said K. Can we chat about Jonah?
Mm-hmm and I was like, yes, they got really excited Yeah, finally. Yeah, finally and she said there's a catch So we hop on the phone and she explains that Jonah and his team have a very cool and it is very cool lifestyle brand Yes, clothes, homeware, mm-hmm called meaningful existence Yes, and proceeds in profit goes to mental health. It goes to literally better help who's the sponsor of the show goes to Scholarships for people in the field to train to be therapist amazing. I love it's amazing.
I said great We'd love to have him on to talk about that and she said yeah, but he's not doing press for it as him He's doing All right, he has an alter ego named profit Ezekiel profit and the first profit is spelled as you would think PRO PhD and then the last profit is PRO FIT yes profit Ezekiel profit and to be fair we call it an alter ego I it is it's a character. It's a character. He's doing as a poke at a lot of brands that promote quote mental health awareness and with a guru Positivity right with gurus who obviously are human well Yeah, and who there's a dichotomy there right commerce and a promoting products that help people when really they're just taking glory and Also selling kind of bullshit products, but not really helping anyone, but it's about the thing Yeah, anyway, so he's built this brand around that and this character. He's created is one of those gurus who originally founded in this narrative meaningful existence Yeah, he founded it and then he got into some hot water And so Jonah bought the company and is now doing good stuff with it Yes, profit is not really he's still the figurehead they're stuck with him as a figurehead profit as he go profit wrote a book Well, he wrote 12 books, but one of them includes life-changing meaningful existence monetizing happiness So in a nutshell, it was pitch that we interview The profit and I said we'll do it, but also we're not gonna air it if it's insane and not good But we ended up having a ton of fun.
It was so fun. It was a great improv experience It was really fun. It's the closest I'll ever get to all three of us coast narrowing in a film together Yeah, and we treated it as we should as it is a true armchair interview. Yep.
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Yes company. Yes So you've said so many in factuals. Let me just like start from the top. Okay Meaningful existence Was the name the company it is now a company it was a spiritual community that I profit Ezekiel profit started all right, okay decades ago And we had a massive following we were you know one of the original prototypes for Scientology, Nexium, all the classics I was the person who decided that happiness could be purchased and that's the only way that one can achieve true eternal pure enlightenment Your premise is money does buy have monetizing happiness.
That's mine So what happened is meaningful distance was bought by a parent company part of which is the actor Jonah Hill Yeah, big fans big fans of his yeah, I've never seen anything except Evan almighty and the film Stutz great about his therapist Yeah, I don't believe in therapy and I believe it was a self-serving endeavor on his part Yeah, what can I just for application stuts it was self-serving for stutzer for Jonah for Jonah Hill for Jonah? Yeah, the thing is about Jonah is I met him a few times in the 90s when I like what you know more in his fat clown era You know no, you know that clown era or he would dress as a clown. He was big and he was a clown Well, yeah, he was bigger, but I don't remember the So I liked that some of that stuff. Okay, but you didn't see it exactly I like the imagery your age is kind of hard for me To nail down well, I'm eternal your eternal so you were the born my physical body was born in 1955 And I'm math how many oh then he's 68 mm-hmm.
Yes, 68 okay So that's right that's you look incredible if you're actually 68 you look really really good Yeah, thank you so much. Do you have a certain way you eat or moisturizers use? Well, the thing is is just expensive stuff. Okay moisturizers.
I eat expensive stuff. I eat expensive moisturizers I eat I started a market called Arwan Yeah, you were a one. Oh, I'm sorry Yes, where it's basically food for the rich and if you're poor you can't actually literally cannot shop there because the food is so expensive It is I noticed that you're a fan of shop. I've been in there.
It's so expensive I'm wealthy and when I looked at the price of some of the smoothies, I'm like $28 Who could afford to really shop here? Well, only the truly happy the only spiritually rich are the actual rich Oh, and so but let me just clarify real quick meaningful existence The company has a very different set of ideology than I have okay when they bought the company I had to legally come back and do a few of these to sort of bless the leadership Yeah, yeah, because I owe a lot of retribution. I don't want to get into it But I do cut just you know we cut stuff out so if you want to feel free to say yeah, no I was really close we lost him recently which has been Bernie made off was a really close friend of mine and he died he passed yeah in prison Yeah, but from old age or a disease or I think from sadness about being mischaracterized And I think I've had the same feelings but didn't pass from it And I think what Bernie and I were doing a few years back was on and off Can't get into the details, but I do owe some some money So I did have to re put myself out there for meaningful existence Or the company is what Jonah and these people are doing is a clothing company a home goods company and a way to Get therapy to people sounds super cool. They promise that I don't agree with it Okay, but really quick the premise is that some of the proceeds are gonna go to both train future therapists get people therapy Right tried to give back in some capacity to the people what they feel is giving back I feel it's taking away by receiving therapy would be taking therapy is pretty much the dumbest thing that a person can do because you don't talk about Your feelings and your fears you pay money from your wallet to Eliminate and pay away the shame and fear whatever your feeling and I've found that that works way better But look these guys believe what they believe I owe what I owe right and so what they're doing is this they are partnering with a company called better help Yeah, they're sponsor of this program.
Yeah, and so what they do is if you sign up at meaningful existence You will get a month of free therapy which is four sessions in four weeks complete waste of time If you want to do it go for it as well as that Mr. Hill and the company are gonna be donating a portion of the proceeds from this company to give what they feel is really needed Which is new therapists so you are donating to scholarships to create new therapists I like that because can I tell you that my mom is up in Portland? It's not like she's in a backwater and she needed a psychiatrist in the amount of strings I had to pull from down here to get her to an actual psychiatrist in Portland's kind of mind-blowing What does she look like she's beautiful? She's like she what does she know she was one of 51 so she's three She look her age I'd say she looks young for her age She's on dating apps and she's flying off the shelves like she gets so much action on the Shoulder Lane yeah, she's big breasts.
Yeah, she keeps herself in shape. She's all of them. Yeah, she's beautiful But she does go to therapy. Yeah, I don't know if that would be a hurdle for you It's I don't want to date her.
I want to sort of mentor her okay. Oh and she's here to get her off the path of this Get her off the psychiatry therapy pills and oh my god. Don't get me started. She's not pills Yeah, what kind of pills oh, you know, I guess mood stabilizers I am also on an SSR.
Yeah Monica's to which one so laughs good luck Those things are I mean it's those things are I put this what did Elra used to say? Like they're like a little drop of the devil inside of a capsule that you're putting into your brain. He said that I mean it's been working I gotta say I've known her pre-imposed medication and she's far more stable Yeah, just even more like do you what do you think about hormone fluctuations? I think there's male hormones I don't believe in female hormones, but that's me right sure you're a lot of your opinion Yeah, and if it's helping you think great.
I mean you're meeting me today So this could be a whole new avenue for you to sort of get better. Mm-hmm. You seem like you need to get better Mm-hmm. Well, it seems to me what's right here on the platter for me is the Steve Jobs analogy But the more I'm talking you I don't I don't know that that's actually the analogy But in the sense that he started this thing he was a visionary He led it to the best of his abilities There was some point that he decided he had to leave there and then he returned and he brought back this kind of essential ingredient That ultimately made Apple what it was and that's it you're at least on that Logistical pattern of having started something disappeared under kind of curious Circumstances which I want to get into and then now you've been asked to come back and return to the brand But it's interesting because you seem to not be in lockstep with the parent come back Absolutely not in lockstep with them.
They think that okay, let's put it this way one of the things they offer are Goods that one would have in their home that would help with what's the word people say these days mental health That's all right. Yeah, they make these things that you have in your home that help your mental health So like an anxiety blanket. Oh, many folks It's makes a fashionable cool anxiety blanket or a gratitude journal or compression socks all this is really quick What it sounds like you don't believe in it, but what do compression socks do what's their stance on compression socks? Apparently they can make you feel held and safe like swaddled or yes like a feeling of Biologically physiologically it does do it's a comic.
Yeah. Yeah, that's what they say I don't believe in science or magic or whatever you guys are talking about it I think those things okay, they look great sure selling you know, they're contributing to the thing really Selling eternal happiness for four million dollars us like what is in that four million dollar package that is so unimportant Monica of what's actually in it. It's more you just pay and you feel great Oh, I'm just active paying money is what makes you feel good being a good person working on yourself Becoming healthier physically mentally spiritually all an illusion. Okay, if you acquire money and give it to me us You will become happy and I can guarantee that you can't you can literally sue me okay?
The profit personally yeah, which I think it's the listener should understand that it's not PROP HET. That's my first name PR Oh FIT. That's my last name. Can we start at the beginning?
Yes, you have some pretty Keith Renary ask claims about how you even entered the world you claim to remember I remember everything about my birth You do yeah, and you even claim to remember before the birth of course I had hundreds of thousands of other lives before this physical body that you're saying okay So what is your memory of being in the womb and then entering this well my mother was How do I like I don't describe this she was one foot tall and one foot wide she was a square she was a perfect square your mother Mm-hmm. Okay, and being in her womb was Prostrophobic it was a nightmare. Oh and so what happened was I was born eight months early So one month in the one month in the room But I was fully the height I am now wait I am now hair late you came out as a sunglasses in and I can't I walked out I stood up and walked out of your mother one by one mom yes Yes, did she have the most epic sigh of relief when you Immediately, well, yeah, that makes sense. I don't want to use the word kill But it wasn't anything to do with the childbirth because that's always hit by a car immediately after wow where was the hospital located on the toll road Cedars okay, oh Angeles and they just pushed her out into I said it's one month in it's fucking small.
It's too tight. I don't like being in here I want to do my own thing right I kick as hard as I could a couple times under abdomen or her Her mom's pubis is located on her chest because of as I've just described her scale Why does my scale yeah? Yeah, it's all pretty much right there And so I kicked as hard as I fucking could excuse my language and she got right down to cedars She was teaching a Fairfax high at the time. This is 1955.
Uh-huh She goes right to cedars and a doctor says you're going into labor. She says am I even pregnant? Right, right? She only missed one period.
I'm also a complete square and I've never had sex and so I'm gonna divine Correct so she goes into labor. Mm-hmm. What I do is I stand completely upright at five foot 11 Which is my height full head of hair full with your sunglasses, huh? I don't want to get into this with you Yeah, you're not 5'11 I just I think we're gonna proceed I'm 5'11 being modest in being yeah, correct I'm right so probably 6'1 with the slides anyway It's like the stage and these feel like curtains and so I part these curtains and I walk out completely upright.
Uh-huh naked Yeah, but with some glasses with sunglasses in a full head of hair and slides But I'm say to the doctor I say my privacy is Important to me even in the first moments of being here did my own circumcision and then said can I have a garment to cover my privacy? Uh-huh the doctor handed me a shirt that is the exact replica of this sweater that you see me wearing It didn't say meaningful existence, but that's where I got the initial idea So it was just a white sweatshirt. It was a white sweatshirt, which is why we sell sweatshirts now and that's what I based this on Well, I'm sorry. Oh, yeah private parts then were not covered.
Oh, no. No, I was completely I did the circumcision myself, right? Kept the cord blood in case I needed it for later. Have you needed it?
Yeah, but ceremonially not at all for anything medical Oh, okay, and just more like as a goof. Sorry. You've totally gotten in my way and confuse me I did the circumcision asked to be covered up. Okay, the doctor gave me a cloth right but not pants just a top No, and I did it around my waist.
Oh, I see okay I also invented tying something around your waist in the 50s You never saw Jimmy Dean and James Dean and people like that wearing a sweatshirt tied around their waist that hadn't yet No, that was done post my birth and circumcision and I invented it That's another thing that I've done you must have been fully exposed though because when I envisioned tying a sweatshirt around your waist You're gonna see everything penis and testicles I was meant I need to cover the backside you were worried that people see your ass. Yes. I was the original big-ass Hot oh like Kirby right at the time. This is the mid-50s.
It was the height of Calvin Klein Arrow and she skinnyness and I see five 1955 yeah, yeah, and I said I said I'm a curvier guy Mm-hmm. I don't know how this is gonna fly day one of being alive right So I said cover the back and leave the front because I have a different thing But relevant I think is that I'm overly confident Except for my I'm so nervous about anyone seeing my anus really why yeah, because it's a mess It's just not the least you use the restroom. I wiped you hard. I'm really fanatical about playing it Yeah, I have a sprayer and then I also wipe but it's sometimes right in there if there's more hair than I would love to be I just don't that's the part I would least want you to see but that wasn't your motivation.
Oh, no not at all You don't use the restroom. Mm-hmm. You don't use the restroom No, I basically digest everything I eat and drink into words and then write them into books. Okay Stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare So where do we from 1955 and coming out full-size in your mother passing by the leaven without slides right in your own personal story?
Which is self-reported. There's a big gap kind of like Jesus. I really hesitate to compare you to Jesus But at the same time there's a 20 I wouldn't I wouldn't take your foot off a gas on that comparison yet But hold on I don't want to make it but the only thing I'm making an analogy to is that I'm so curious what happened between a Immaculate conception and we started doing miracles like what was he as a teenager? What was he how did he move through school?
You know what were you doing between 55 when you're born in 75? You're trying to make me cry that To my youthful days, but it's a vulnerable show that I heard that I heard that about this show never listen So who's care were you in I raised myself you did yeah, my mom passed immediately right? I said oh my god I'm an orphan now my mom was a maculae concepted probably by Jesus or Einstein or someone like that Right, and then I here I am I'm sorry about that. That's like really that's very traumatic cuz you saw that I can assume right?
Yeah, I was holding her think about it I was so much taller than her at the time fully muscle developed and you dropped her that's what happened So I got hit didn't even cause a fucking scratch She gets dropped but the problem was there was a perfectly square shaped hole in the concrete outside of Cedars as they were doing road work So she didn't die from impact to the car She died from falling mouth hole of the top of square down into the concrete and suffocation And that's when she passed and I said oh my god. I'm an orphan I'm a god of some sort clearly because I'm one second old and I'm already in this position to teach Oh, this is a teachable moment as what I said mm-hmm Which were my first words this is a teachable moment really before you asked to cover your privacy I didn't ask through words. I asked with icon Oh, you're not paying attention. You misunderstood.
It's not that I understood. I asked for you said you asked for something I assumed it was implied you left out just going forward. I was just born. I feel you know words the second I was born Yeah, I would very much expect anyone born at 511 Which is really 5a to come out and also additionally speak at any point anything that would happen beyond being born at 5a I would say sure why not why can't the guy speak yes, you're wrong.
Yeah, which is great I accept that now, but what you did not do I hate to correct you is you didn't clarify that it was done non verbally It was Monica knows it was implied just don't like it in the fight with yeah You're talking to a religious spiritual sort of billionaire genius and you're clearly insecure and I I want to honor that because this is a vulnerability based faith-based podcast, right? It's not faith is not faith-based No, there's no there's no belief in a D. A D here Okay, we actually are sort of kind of against having like hierarchical worshiping especially a person Right, which I'm not to offend you. Oh, no, that's why you're going to help me It doesn't bother me that you don't believe in me and us it should bother you.
Yeah, let us make a real literal So I did you go to school I found a scripture ducks, okay, and it had these principles on it. Okay. I love to hear what the principles are Okay, I'm sure you would where did you find it Jerry's deli I was directly across the street Yeah, here's what the scripture said that I found it Jerry's deli it was in a Ruben sandwich. Okay, one You shall bring meaning and spread joy through fine clothing shoes and home goods, uh-huh two You shall monetize happiness three You are a God featuring God for if a corporation ever buys you and wants to make their mission providing free hours of therapy and helping scholarships for future therapists and They will pay off the reparations you owe That's fine.
It's said that specifically. Yeah Wow in Braille. I still don't know how to read the Queen's English I only can read Braille and it's not the Queen's Braille either It's a Braille that I sort of freestyled out that day your interpretation of the Braille or you ended up writing some Braille The Queen's Braille was based on what I came up with that day, okay, which was just sort of a lot of you don't forget I'm just learning that there's something called the Queen's Braille. I thought that was done Is there not something?
No, I don't think that's a thing. Yeah, there is the Queen's English, but I don't think that's the Queen's Braille fact check it She was a sweet kid the Queen. Okay, you knew her. I did and you knew her life No, no, she was I mean I call sweet.
I mean anyone younger than me. I call sweet kid. Okay, but she's older She was older this body. We've lived many many lives and you bumped into her.
We were married in a previous life. Oh, you were Yeah, oh my goodness. This was ancient Egypt. Oh, so her another life for her as well.
Oh, we weren't humans We were two little caterpillars in ancient Egypt and Queen Elizabeth and I were married and we had an incredible time she I put this she does things I think are Interesting in her bedroom. No, no, no, no, no. I'm getting ready for bed. Oh, I'm talking routine like brushing This is why she was a caterpillar and ancient as brushing teeth face mask stuff like that anyway goes on fast forward I'm a prophet.
She's the queen of England. I invent the Queen's Braille. She invents the Queen's Braille and it's based on what I did at Jerry's She's deli. Okay, that's funny.
You know what's funny is her grandson. Yeah. Sat where your current was sitting. Harry, yes.
I loved his documentary. Okay. Because I thought he did a good job of taking his money and buying a really nice house in Montecito. That to you is where the new found autonomy and happiness came from is his home ownership.
Correct. I guess I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but it sounds like what you're saying is that he is under the spurious conclusion that his therapy has provided relief, but in fact it was just purchasing the house and he's maybe mislabeled what the- He's giving credit to the wrong thing. Who's the happiest guy you can point to? Myself and Jeff Bezos.
Jeff Bezos. Jeff's a dear friend. Okay, but he seems to have an inverted relationship to the principles that you're installing. He's actually selling things, not buying things.
Oh no, but he takes the money that he sells from his company and he buys things. You know that tight polo he wears? Yeah. That's meaningful existence.
It is. Oh, so some of your stuff- Whoa, it's not even branded. It's not branded. For dear friends we do- So there's no consistency or coalescence over the product line.
If you're a billionaire, you can have anything. You can do what you want. I've blessed those people into being billionaires. Okay, so that's the part I guess I'm most curious about.
Yes. Is leaving young adulthood at some point, in fact 1975 to 1980, you bounced. You went on a sit-arthur type. Well, I'll tell you how I started my sit-arthur.
Okay. And it involves violence heavily. Okay. So I was sent to a Oliver Twist style orphan porridge and it was ran by a holyman.
What they called a holyman, which was a priest, a priest. And he said, profit, can you please make your bet? I'm 20 years old. And he says profit.
I presume you haven't made a bet yet. I never even slept in a bed, which is why I never made one. I grabbed a brick that I had in my pocket and I struck him in the face as hard as I could. Now this was by all accounts, a lovely guy.
He broke every single bone in his face with this brick. He did. He did. By applying pressure back to the brick.
So it wasn't me striking him. It was him throwing his face- Headbuddy. Headbuddy and throwing his face at full blast into the brick. Now I had to flee.
Yeah, naturally. Because they have to search on the phone. No one understood. Right.
This guy has a sort of surgery, what I call blank face. So he has no features to his face after a reconstructive surgery. He has one hole to breathe in and eat out of and just a completely blank face. So he looks like a tambourine with a mouth.
One hole. Just one small hole. Like a donut. Oh, a donut.
Yes. Which I also invented. And so he goes on what is virtually a press tour just saying, this guy's 20, he started meaningful existence, profit as a keyo profit. This is a cult.
It's not a spiritual community. I have to go on the run because I'm wanted for face aeration. And my spiritual community is now in disarray. I leave the orphanage and I go sort of to the Nile River.
In Africa. When you were in a caterpillar, you were in on the Nile. And you did. The actual Nile.
This Nile is in San Dimas. Oh. Right next to raging waters. Right.
Oh, at the water park. It's where the water sort of the dirty water spills out of. I call the Nile of California. OK.
And I spent 20 odd years here sort of having visions, drinking only the water that runs off from raging waters. And this is mostly kid piss, chlorine, fecal matter. And through drinking this water every day for 20 years. I have a vision.
Meaningful existence is now completely in disarray. I hire a sweet kid in the banking world named Bernie Madoff. OK. And I sort of give him access to everything.
And again, I've spoken years later, he gets misconstrued. Yeah. That's something totally different than what he was actually doing. Absolutely wrong and incorrect.
There's no such thing as a Ponzi scheme. There's a pyramid of joy where you take the money from others and you sort of filter it up. Right. During this period of exile, you also had a mantra that you were saying over and over again.
Do you want to tell the audience what it is? Well, great attitude, right? Great attitude. So you had this mantra for 20 years, great attitude, great attitude, great attitude, which over time became simply gratitude.
Wow. Which you claim to have invented. And own the copyright too. For gratitude.
For being grateful in any capacity. So anytime a human being is grateful, I get three to four cents. Oh. Oh my god.
Yes. Yeah. Can I? I mean, we can cut it if you want.
But can I ask what your worth? Worth money. Seriously? No, well, anyway.
The same thing. So what I'm worth on paper, I mean, are we talking like US? Yeah, USD. OK, USG.
Kind of the standard currency. I don't think I can answer legally. OK, that's fine. It's in the 60 digits.
Yeah, I would love to see any kind of statements or tax returns. Oh, it's all accounted for. It is. I was the silent organizer in Fire Festival.
Oh, right. So it was John Rool, Bill McFarland, me. And we were basically taking the IQ. It's Ted Danson too.
Ted Danson's a great kid. Yeah. And one of the things I love about Ted is he was on that show. What's the famous one?
Cheers. Becker. And that's where I got most of my sense of humor from. And Ted is married to a gal who I used to date.
You dated Mary Steamer. Oh my god. And what year? Was it in this life or?
I guess that's a good idea. Oh, this was two months ago. Oh. I do believe they're still married.
Yeah. Let's cut this part out. Yeah. Yeah.
So what I said to Bill was I said, let's get the best looking people, myself, Gigi, Haddad, Bella Haddadad, Haddadad, Muhammad, Haddadad. Yolanda. Yolanda Haddad. And I said, let's get them on an island.
Cut to jaw and Ted Danson make a few mistakes here and there. I owe restitution. OK. That's what the restitution are for.
Right, which are intermittently called reparations and now also restitution. So regardless, I think the headline is you owe money. To a lot of people. Yeah.
Because I think the greatest spiritual thing you could be as an influencer. Oh, really? Yeah. Right below angel is Instagram influencer.
It goes rich, hot, devious, good person. Oh, somewhere somewhere. Well, hot. OK, that's a good shape and you have to look a certain way to be hot.
OK, great. All right. Those are the tears. Spell T E A R S.
If you are hot or rich and you use that to sell a product to people who don't feel hot or rich, you are spiritually awake. That's my name for existence. You mentioned Steve Jobs earlier. I did.
Yeah. That's it. Let's just put it that way. Did you ever cross paths?
Yeah, I crossed paths with them. You did. Let's just say I wasn't wearing turtlenecks before he met me. Because Adam's Apple looked like a vulva and I was the one who said, cover it up, babe.
Now you wrote a book when you came out of your exile. You wrote a book called Meaningful Existence, Monetizing Happiness. And this book kind of put you in the public eye a bit. It got you a lot of notoriety.
A lot of notoriety. And what did you do with that new phone notoriety? Well, I did what all people should do is when you get power or you get success is immediately exploited to take advantage of everyone around you. Now me, I did that financially.
I also did it in a way I'm very proud of. How do you put that with mind games? Okay. Manipulating people.
Oh, okay. Yeah, like ass lighting manipulation. Cars up persuasion. How many units of monetizing happiness did you sell?
How many did Dianetics sell? It's in the tens of millions. Yeah, a bunch of millions more than that. Even more successful.
Yeah, I'm not competitive with Dianetics or Elron. Right. Because you were a friend. I mean, he bit all my shit.
He bit your shit. 100%. The little alien glasses. Those were me.
Now, I want to close out by because again, I'm only talking to you as a favor to my friend Jonah who I don't know why he wouldn't come here to just promote it. He's just a fucking cry baby. He's a cry baby. That's my energy towards it.
Denying fame is one of the most disgusting things you can do because being famous is almost as good as being rich as far as like quality of character. And so what I think about the guy is I liked him when he was like young, getting in trouble, sort of arrogant and then he sort of got this energy about himself of like, oh, there's other things that are more important, whatever, whatever. Yeah, I have all this stuff and yet I'm less happy. Yeah.
It's like the opposite of me. Literally the opposite of my philosophy is like he had stuff and money and didn't wasn't happy. Right. Which can't we all agree is unappreciative?
That's an interesting angle. But I have been experienced the same thing as Jonah, which is like all I want to be was famous and have money and got those things and I was suicidal, got into a program of recovery and then through that program started figuring out what actually made me happy. Think about Joni Hill for a second. Yeah.
Yeah. I love him. I heard this. Think about this.
The guy makes super bad. Great movie. Haven't seen it, but I heard it's good. Yeah, made a lot of money.
You like that part. That's good. That's why I brought it up to you. That's why I brought it up to you.
The guy in the past five years, how many movies has the guy been in? I think only one knowledge. I don't know. I don't see him anymore.
Yeah. He's somewhere reading books on a being nice or something. I don't know. Right.
Right. So he's a fucking loser. But back to why he wouldn't come to promote his own, I don't know if it's his whole company or even a better of his place or feels safe emotionally to do that. Whatever that means.
Well, you have a line that's repeated a lot in your manifesto, which is complete unrelenting control. Complete unrelenting control. Yeah. How does handing over that to you help somebody?
The only way to be completely free in of your own autonomy is to give me complete unrelenting control financially, physically, in all ways. And this act of surrender, somehow a new freedom is really welcome to freedom. It's so good to meet you guys. If you ever want to experience joy, please come to my basement, wear the clothes, buy everything.
And if you give me your social security number, I guarantee you right now, you'll be a happy boy. Really? You have it already. Have totally been in your bank account.
We changed all your passwords. Wow. Yeah. Okay.
And that's because Rob gave you that information. Well, yeah. And I spoke to the accountants and sort of everyone who has access to your stuff. I'll try it.
Well, then we'll report back. Okay. You know, in the meantime, I will say that the gear, despite the carrier of the message, the message is pretty pleasing. It is.
I do really like the meaningful gear is nice, despite it having a foundation of, you know, the answer is, yeah. It is problematic. The way I think that the new owners, I mean, folks, is in front of it, which is like, get therapy, be a kind person and like have good taste and static can come along with that as well. And you can buy stuff and help people through therapy and things like that and destigmatizing therapy.
I believe that is problematic. You're right. But I do agree with them on one thing, which is I like how the clothes are designed. Oh, wonderful.
I also want to say that good design and humor can coexist. Yes. Yes. You're speaking to the choir.
Right. We have a diaper company. You do. Cool.
For babies or for adults? Well, babies unlike the variety you are, ones that require diapers and wipes. Well, I don't have an asshole. What an interesting.
Yeah. Listen, you guys have been great. Thanks for coming. Yeah.
Yeah. You're here, which so you can. Thanks for coming to the studio that now is mine. Thanks.
Thanks for having us. You should know, because I don't do anything back door when you leave, I'm going to call Jonah and I'm going to tell him you've got to get rid of this spokesperson. I think you need to step away from this company as fast as possible for everyone that's involved. I cannot agree more for Jonah to not be involved because I think about this guy is.
You need to know this. You're going to call Jonah Hill. I'm going to call Jonah Hill and I'm going to- You're like, how are you feeling? Dags?
Are you feeling okay? Yeah. And I'll say thanks for asking. Yeah.
It takes a lot. An embarrassing amount of effort requires for me to not feel shitty and I see him in that way. That's why probably why we're friends. Yeah.
But I'm going to tell him you've got to. By any means necessary, get rid of this fucking guy. Probably reverse. You're using a verse.
Psychology. Like any needs to circle the wagons because I do think he has a great company that you're are shitting all over in Rooney. Right. And I think I've been cordial this whole time because- You've been really, really grotesque.
I think you align more with them. The company. Therapy, helping people. Yeah.
Yeah. Selling stuff to help people energy. Right. Yes.
Yes. I do. I do. And so I think I'm going to tell him to get rid of you just so you know.
So I'm being above board with you. Great. And I'm also going to urge everyone to also ignore you and how you've represented this company. Because he's done a very bad job if I give you some constructive criticism.
No, that reads true for you. Yeah. It seems like a really beautiful endeavor. Yeah.
A really good looking stuff with a really nice philanthropic wing of it. I wanted to be honest with you. Yeah. I want to tell you that.
That's fine. You can't kill what's already- Dead. Free. Listen, it's a profit.
It's been such a pleasure for you guys to sit here with me. Yeah. It has. It really is very memorable.
We can't say we'll have you back. I'll be back.