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EPISODE · Jun 15, 2026 · 28 MIN

Psychopharmacology & Motivational Interviewing: The Art of Helping Treatment Stick

from The Human Side of Psychopharmacology - with Dr. Saundra Jain · host Saundra Jain, MA, PsyD, LPC

The weirdest part of clinical work is that the better your recommendation is, the more stuck a patient can seem. You listen, you assess, you explain the evidence, and then the plan quietly dies: the medication is never started, it is stopped without a word, therapy never happens, and the lifestyle change turns into another “I know, but.” I’m Dr. Saundra Jain, and this conversation is about a skill that helps treatment stick without turning the visit into a tug-of-war.Motivational interviewing is not a model of psychotherapy. It’s a practical style of communication that helps patients explore their own motivations, work through ambivalence, and move toward behavior change in a way that feels collaborative. We dig into why persuasion often backfires, the “writing reflex” that pulls clinicians into fixing mode, and the science of reactance, how people protect autonomy when they feel pressured or judged. We also reframe “resistance” as something more human: fear, grief, exhaustion, and the conflict of wanting change while also wanting things to stay the same.You’ll get concrete tools you can use right away in psychopharmacology and beyond, including the OARS framework (open-ended questions, affirmations, reflective listening, summaries), asking permission before offering information, and simple scaling questions that invite change talk. We also name what motivational interviewing cannot do, and how to stay respectful and direct when safety requires it. What’s one conversation this week where you can bring more curiosity and less persuasion?

The weirdest part of clinical work is that the better your recommendation is, the more stuck a patient can seem. You listen, you assess, you explain the evidence, and then the plan quietly dies: the medication is never started, it is stopped without a word, therapy never happens, and the lifestyle change turns into another “I know, but.” I’m Dr. Saundra Jain, and this conversation is about a skill that helps treatment stick without turning the visit into a tug-of-war. Motivational interviewi...

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