Pubcast 51: The Fugitive

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Okay, welcome to another episode of the Popcat. This is our second movie breakdown. Actually our third episode, because the first one went so long we broke in half, but our second movie that we're breaking down, this time is The Fugitive, and this is our second straight movie that's set in Chicago. So that's something near and dear to most of the, or the hearts of most of our listeners.

So this time Allison and Eric join me again as we go through the ins and outs of the fugitives. And the fugitives, but we like, we didn't like, and some details you may have missed. So here we go as we break down the fugitive. Listen up, we have a fugitive that's been on the run for 90 minutes.

Speed over uneven brown barring injuries, four miles an hour. Give you a radius of six miles. I'm out of each and every one of you as a Martin-Margaret search of every gas station, residence, where the dog house in this area. Name is Dr.

Richard Kimball. Okay, well so let's dive into the fugitive. Get this show in the room. Okay.

According to IMDB, this is the plot. Dr. Richard Kimball, unjustly accused of murdering his wife, must find the real killer while being the target of a nationwide manhunt led by a seasoned US Marshal. Okay.

Yeah, that's it. Sure. I don't know nationwide, but that's kind of where I was going to be late. Is it nationwide or is it countywide?

I mean, it's more statewide. Yeah, it's pretty much Illinois. So Eric, when you're younger, but when did you see this? Did you see this in the theater?

What was your reaction to this whole deal? I did see it in the theater. First time when it came out, I had never heard of the TV show prior to this movie coming out. Mom explained some of the background of the TV show and stuff.

I ended up seeing the theater with Mom and Dad because it was one of those rare movies that caught Dad's attention enough that we all went to theater. Like, Dad wanted to see that. Now, growing up like E.T. or returning to the gym, I feel like that he took it so the movie could see it.

My dad was in the theater with us twice for a movie in my youth, and it was only it was Superman, the original, and Ghostbusters. That's two good ones, but no other movie compelled him to get in the car and go in theater, not one. Wow. So I was trying to tell Allison, I couldn't explain this properly.

And the more we talk about it and think about it, I'm probably wrong about this, but when this kid, when the fugitive came out, and this may be because of our age or the hype that we saw around it. Or there was nothing else big at that time. I'm not sure that's exactly right either, but this felt like a big movie. It felt like Harrison Ford versus Tommy Lee Jones.

I didn't know Tommy Lee Jones before this movie. I had never really seen him or heard of him. I don't think until this movie. And then during the movie, I'm like, oh, this guy's like a real actor.

He's like, he must have done all kinds of stuff. Who is this guy? He sort of held his own on the screen against Harrison Ford, which Harrison Ford was the biggest, arguably the biggest actor, maybe movie star, but as a reaction movie of that time. I'm trying to remember, did we see this movie together?

I really don't remember. It would have been like, it was August 93 when it came out. It would have just been coming back to school, maybe. So that summer, we might have seen it.

But yeah, so this is a big deal. And it's still like a fan favorite. It's still like a classic movie, which I'm surprised it's not a whole lot. I think it does hold up, but I think it's we'll talk about that later.

It's a very well. So I asked myself this during the movie last night. Is this a Harrison Ford movie or is it a Tommy Lee Jones movie? Obviously the main character protagonist is supposed to be Dr.

Richard Kimball. But Tommy Lee Jones is just a big part in this movie. I mean, you're on his side as much as anything. And his performance stole the show.

It's captivating. When he's on screen, you are fully engaged in listening and watching what he's doing and how he talks and what he does and all that stuff. I agree with Alton. I think it was probably intended to be Harrison Ford movie, but Tommy Lee Jones killed it.

So we mentioned that Harrison Ford is sort of at the peak of his powers at this point. He had lots of good movies throughout his career, but this is sort of his window of dominance if you had one. It's just why you probably never really had any movie that ever flopped. So there's a six-year period.

There's one movie that will stand out and it'll be clear which one is the ugly duckling of his bunch. But he had a six-year period where he ran off in a row, Patriot games, the fugitive, a clear and present danger, Sabrina, the Devil's Own, and Air Force One. Devil's Own is the one that is really not very good. I don't know that I saw that movie.

No one should really see that movie. I saw Devil's Own. I didn't see Sabrina. Yeah.

That was really a very good movie. That was before this, I believe. Yeah. Air Force One was his big summer blockbuster deal after he had had most of his run.

Air Force One was 97, Patriot games 92, fugitive 93. So the Devil's Own, not to get sidetracked, but if you want to hear arguably the worst Irish accent in the world, listen to Brad Pitt try and pull off a Belfast accent in the Devil's Own. It's worse than Tom Cruise in far and away. Oh, yeah.

I think so. Really? I didn't think anything worse. Yeah.

I'm gonna have to check out then. Yeah. It's pretty good. He has a better accent in snatch and you can barely understand him in that movie, but Devil's Own is like, ooh, brutal.

I'll take the best of the challenge on that one. Yeah. It might be a bad Irish off between those two, but I think that's... It would be a ten-round fight going down to the bell.

It'd be a decision for sure. All right. All right. Yeah.

So, right. Eric's got an assignment for the finale. Exactly. Go watch this shooting when we compare this accent.

We need a full report. Oh my God. We can do that on a different podcast, reviewing these bad movies. So, Rotten Tomatoes score.

We have the Audience Score and the Critic Score. What do you think the audience scored it on Rotten Tomatoes? The Fugitive? 87.

What do you think, Eric? I'll say Audience Score 89. Oh. Right in the middle.

You guys nailed it. What do you think the Critic Score is? I generally think the critics are harsher than the audience. On an action movie, I would agree.

There's other movies that can be the other way around. I'll say five. What was it? Say it again.

75. 75. Oh, I'd go 82. So, the Audience Score was 89.

Critic Score? 96. Wow. 96% certified.

Tommy Lee Jones. Among the best possible movies they've ever scored, I'm sure. Wow. Yeah.

96. Jesus. So, I wouldn't expect that. So, a lot of people will use the reviews of Roger Ebert because he's more fun, usually.

He takes more extreme stands, positive or negative on these. I grabbed Cisco because he's fine. So, here's what Cisco says. A truly tension-filled drama and action picture that has been skillfully directed by Andrew Davis and wonderfully acted by Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones.

He just working at the top of his form, I think we've reviewed that. Together with What's Love Got to Do With It, this is the summer's best entertainment. What does that mean? Is that Tina Turner?

Oh, right. Yeah. It's, and that's, uh, Angela Bassett, the future. What's Love Is To Do With It?

So, that was their second. In Lawrence Street, like Turner. Yeah. So, he says, Harrison Ford is superb as always, uh, portraying an embattled figure.

He's played a doctor before in regarding Henry and a common man tracking a criminal, whatever. But this time, Tommy Lee Jones, whatever. He says, I've already seen The Fugitive twice, and I'll probably see it again. Wow.

That might be a little bit less Chicago bias, I think. Fine. Me. Okay.

One facts. The Fugitive made 183 million domestic and 368 million worldwide. So, 180 can change internal and external from the US. That's a big ass movie in 1993.

Yeah. That's huge. The 94 Oscars. Yeah.

I believe the Fugitive was up for like seven awards, something like that. And it only, I believe only one won. And that was best supporting actor for Tommy Lee Jones. Right.

Here's who he beat. Leonardo DiCaprio, for what's eating Gilbert Grape. Ralph Fiennes, Schindler's List. John Malkovich, No Line of Fire.

Oh, that's a very 93 million. And Pete Possilate for In the Name of the Father. Wow. Okay.

I don't, only one you can argue with maybe would be Ralph Fiennes. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely good.

It was also, it was nominated for Best Picture. Did not win. The winner was? Yeah.

The others were in the name of the father, the piano, and the remains of the day. That feels like a stretch from that point. I don't know what else is there, but. Well, that's when they had five in the category.

What about Elphianomani? I didn't have it. I had a fugitive name of the father, the piano, remains of the day, and Schindler's List. That's fine.

I know Tom Hanks beat Lee and Ethan for about actor. Yeah. Well, this is weird because it came out in 93, but it was up for the Oscars in 94. Because it came out in the fall, but so it was, but they let it have a longer run.

It was in theaters through like March or something weird like that. So it was so successful. So I don't know. So it's the only TV adaptation to be nominated for the Best Picture Oscar.

That was a fun fact. What else? Way Shadow? Was there ever a movie I know yet?

Yeah. I can't imagine what else would be in touch with. That was a series? The touchables was a series or an old movie that was remade.

What a series. In the series. Yeah. Robert Sachwood, Elphianomani.

That's right. Whatever's that. And what's his name? His last name is Segal Segal.

He was in it too. I remember as one of the gangsters. I don't know. Stephen?

Stephen Segal would be great. There's all sorts of Hakedo on the, he takes out Capone with a karate chop to his neck. It's hilarious. Okay.

So that series, when they signed up for the movie, none of the main stars nor the director had seen the series. It sort of went to this blind. That's really good though. Yeah.

So Eric, you mentioned this. You want to do a Tommy Lee Jones deep dive. Ended up seeing this as the next movie. But I forgot about this.

Five years after the fugitive, they had a sequel or a set off. U.S. Marshals. Right.

I completely forgot about that. Was it any good? Yeah. If I remember writing from reading IDV3 on that movie, they tried to make it direct equal and have errors and force them out.

Yeah. I make it work so that they just decided to just focus on Tommy Lee Jones's character and his team. I'm going to say something at the risk of being embarrassed that I'm wrong. It was Wesley Snipes, the new guy?

Yes. Yes. Okay. So he was a CIA operative that was on the run.

Yeah. So this time, instead of the wrongly accused doctor, Dr. Ron, who accused his wife is a sort of international espionage, a CIA operative framed for treatment. And instead of the bus getting hit by a train and him getting out, this was a plane crash.

A prisoner plane crash. Oh, right. Oh, gosh. I think I only saw the one time.

I probably only saw the one time. Yeah. I'm not even sure I ever saw it. I guess I knew.

I don't think I saw the theater. No way. I don't know that I did either. Yeah.

Kind of any blockbuster rental. Yeah. It was so memorable that I don't remember it. It's not bad.

It's just for sure. It's a very little bit of a real action movie that easily may be entertaining, but easily forgetful and sort of the current. I don't know if people can't be all that bad. Okay.

So production on the fugitive was intimately difficult. I guess developing the movie screenplay was an insane process. It took about five years. Whoa.

It involved nine different writers writing around 25 different drafts of a fugitive. How many episodes was the original series wrong? Like to think about that many drafts? I would think less than 25.

Oh my God. So in one of the previous drafts, it was revealed that Tommy Lee Jones's agent Samuel Gerard, he was the one who hired the one our man to kill Dr. Kimball's wife. Whoa.

Well, that sounds weird though. Yeah. So when they finally got around to filming, it was a huge rush job after five years after five years. It was like hurry up and wait.

And then they did this super quick. Harrison for probably had some sort of like scheduled like you rattle off all those movies. He had he probably had a window of when he could. So, I mean, depending on the movie, they will take a few months to shoot and a few months to impose production and pick ups and there's marketing and pollution or whatever.

I mean, we all know it takes a year or two or 18 months or whatever. From the start of filming to the release date, six months. Whoa. So they started filming and there were six months out.

Wow. And you can't tell on screen, but I can imagine that would be a tense situation. Yeah. Well, and I saw and I don't know if you were going to talk about this, that while a lot of it is supposed to be in Chicago or in Illinois, it's not.

Because you and I were talking about the Danube. It's in North Carolina. It's in North Carolina, like right on the Tennessee border. And so they had lots of different places to go.

It wasn't just kind of a real small regional. Yeah, almost everything they shot, like in the woods or wherever, the dam, the river, even some of the interior hospital stuff was in North Carolina. Like they didn't shoot inside of Chicago Memorial. So the train crashing into the bus, the big famous scene at the beginning.

I always thought it was miniatures. Even watching last night, I was convinced it's miniatures. You know, those giant miniatures that are, you know, one sixth scale. What?

I like giant miniatures. Well, that's not a great deal. So yeah, they really crashed the train into a bus. And supposedly it was geared to hit the bus at 35 miles an hour, but it was like 42 miles an hour and created much bigger explosion.

It was great for film. It was the one shot deal. They must have done that in North Carolina too, I would thank you. It was nice.

It was a good scene for Harrison Ford to do the standard Harrison Ford leap off cringe pose. The lead for the floor is covering his head. The Harrison Ford flailing lead. His signature along with it.

It's so good. Matt face punch. And the knocking the gun out of the henchman hand. He grabbed the motor forearm and flaming our arm against the wall.

That's a classic as well. The dam, Kimball jumps from is the Chiowa dam in North Carolina on the little Tennessee river apparently. So the drug that is questioned in the back half of the movie, probacic, RDU-90. It is defined as a miracle drug developed by Dublin McGregor pharmaceuticals.

Probacic provides, sorry, probacic produces drug-induced hepatitis. The producers all do the test results in order to get FDA approval. The side effect and the cover up are discovered by Dr. Richard Kimball.

Drug-induced hepatitis was the problem. I thought it was a liver issue. Isn't that what it was? I don't know.

I'm just going on right there. I really hope that that wasn't, they didn't stop their research just before that. Don't think I'm over. That's why they're looking at liver samples.

I never heard of hepatitis as part of the problem. Anyway, St. Patrick's Day Parade was the last minute decision. It was the real parade and they didn't have a plan for it.

They just said, they got a people from the mayor. They said, go, Harrison Ford put this hat on and just go walk through the parade. There was no big storyboard. There was no big production about it.

They were like, just go walk around the parade. They had six months to shoot. They were just making stuff on the mark. Well, and you were saying it took six months and it was released in October, so that means March.

So probably right around that time. I did notice this last night when I was watching it and I saw that somebody else had picked it up. So he's walking through the parade. He's got that coat on and then he starts to take it off.

And then as he's exiting the parade, he's just got his hoodie on and the hat. But he didn't, what happened to the coat? He was in the middle of that crowd. So unless he gave it to somebody, so I was looking to see if somebody else had it on or something like that.

So they shot it with just one or two people with a sitting cam walking through. And they only had a handful of shots because after about five minutes, he started being recognized and people were, oh, Harrison Ford, Harrison Ford, it was like a thing and he had to get out of there. But that's why the shot is so quick. There's a few cuts of him and then they're out.

Weird. That's great though. I like that. Good trivia.

Good trivia. Apparently Tommy Lee Jones improvised a lot of his lines. I saw some of them were most of their lines. I can't believe that.

But the line where they're at the train crash site and they're trying to figure out what to do next. And he goes, Newman, what are you thinking? What are you doing? I'm thinking.

I'm thinking of a cup of coffee and a chocolate doughnut with some of those little sprinkles on top. That was Tommy Lee Jones making shit up. Oh, really? Oh, that's good.

That's a good little character line. All right. Casting issues. This is where...

I got one thing to show you that I always love that I want to make sure that we get covered. Apparently early on in production, Harrison Ford, or his knee, I told him that he had surgery. So both after production, he thought it would be good for his character to have a limp through the whole movie. He totally does.

So he had surgery until after shooting the roller. That's good. I noticed that last night, so much limping. Does he get injured in the movie or is it implied that when they were fighting or was he just...

I think it's implied with the train wreck. Oh, with the train wreck. Like, he wasn't right completely after that. From then on, he's more or less.

Or jumping off that 1,000 foot down. He did a Peter Pan. Sorry, one of my things. He did a Peter Pan right off his stand right here.

The shot of that dummy falling down by the dam is unbelievable. It's like something out of an eighth grade home movie project. It's like cut to this rag doll being thrown off of the... It's crazy.

Um... So casting issues. I didn't see a lot of this is how Harrison Ford got it. This is how Tommy Jones got it.

I didn't see any of those details anywhere. Except there was one. There was a guy, I don't have his name here, but who was originally going to be playing Dr. Charles Nichols.

Apparently he shot up to a dozen scenes. But he had brain cancer. And after 10, 12 scenes, however many days, he got sicker and sicker and had to stop filming. Oh my goodness.

So they were filming in the spring or whatever. He died in August. So they filmed some things with Harrison Ford. And so they had to reshoot some of that stuff with this guy.

The Dutch actor, Jerry-on Krab. We got with the hair helmet, who's Dr. Nichols. So they...

I guess supposedly in some of the scenes you can see differences in Harrison Ford's beard because of... They shot him before, after with this guy or not. Harris had to regrow the beard because of doing reshoots because this actor was no longer the ex-a-hole deal. Yeah, of course.

Was it a short beard? I guess the thing is it didn't match perfectly. So I don't know. But maybe it happens a week.

I don't know. So I don't know if you're going to talk about anything else on casting or I don't know if it's like a casting trivia thing. I've got some cameos. Okay.

And who was almost cast as the lead roles? Okay. Well, there's one that I... Then we have the recast.

Yeah, no, I'm not talking about that. So Eric, I'm sure you remember this also. But the cop that gets shot on the L train. That actor was in scrubs.

That's what my cameo was. Okay. Go ahead. And what I loved is the show Scrubs.

Of course, he's the janitor. And he talks about the fact that before that he was an actor and his claim to fame was that he was in the fugitive. And people didn't believe him at first and then eventually they saw that it was him. And I thought that was a really creative...

They showed that clip in Scrubs. They showed the clip in Scrubs. And I thought that was a really creative way to kind of give that head nod or whatever to that part. I remember that episode, it was JD was really focused on cracking who janitor was.

Because everybody in the hospital knew him a different way. He was a completely different person in the hospital. He was trying to figure out who this guy was. And then he was watching TV.

And it just happened to be that big. Oh my God! Was the J.I. name to him?

Like a watch that actor. I meant to look it up and I forgot. Yeah. Well, I've got a few of those.

The cop on the train was a guy from Scrubs. That's one of them. Early on the cop on the prison bus is the guy from office space with the jump to conclusions. I'm a people girl.

Yeah. Fantastic. That's a good character actor guy. Julianne Moore appears out of nowhere as a doctor in the ER.

I always forget that. Wait. What? Yeah.

And her hair was fantastic after a suppose of like 24 hour shift. I think there was a subplot involving her that got caught out. Yeah. Her character was bigger and had something more going on with Dr.

Kimball. Yeah. Jane Lynch as Dr. Kelly Long.

That's a good. Yeah. Yeah. I know where it was.

Yeah. She had a lot of pins on her doctor's coat that I thought were interesting. I'm kind of blanking on it, but it's really about love versus hate. Kind of like a.

Well, I think that's bad. Oh, I did. And she had, I think she's in like three scenes and it's the same coat and pins and all three scenes. It's almost like in, um, uh, what's the Jim Carrey movie where she's got like the, um, how will it end?

What's the Truman show? Truman show. She's got pins on like it just the pins seem so out of place for that part. It totally distracted me.

If you ask me about that and like what character had these weird pins on in that movie we watched last night, do you get me 10 choices? I wouldn't have come up with it. I didn't see anything like that. I almost mentioned it, but I wanted to save it for today and then I flip and forgot what that said.

Okay. This is not a cameo, but it's sort of a guy who just appears in stuff, especially at that time. Joey Pants, Joey Pantoliano. He's cosmo.

Yeah, he's like the, um, how many Jones is sidekick guy? We did an interview with him for my old magazine 20 years ago. And then my favorite favorite, I'm gonna call it a cameo, but my favorite guy in this movie is the Chicago cop with the mustache who is fantastic. He's out of central casting him and he is a Chicago cop.

He literally is a Chicago cop. He goes by detective Rosetti, apparently, that's his character's name. And he appeared in a handful of things here and there almost always as a cop. Right.

But three things in particular, under siege, the fugitive, and primal fear in the 90s. So Eric, did you recognize him in under siege when you watched that on Wednesday? I did. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a regular thing, a regular. Yeah, I think they were buddies. Yeah. There's a lot of actors in under siege that were also the fugitive, but what, it's countable to watch.

Another movie directed by Andrew Davis is chain reaction with Ganna Rees and Rachel Vines and Morgan Freeman, the characters. Okay. It's another fewbs it will be taking place in Chicago. Yes.

The, you can always put the cast list side by side and the character is distracting to watch. It's ridiculous. I love it when a director, like, has a certain success and then finds his real house house and he's just that's always doing that's the only thing even has the new hand-in-the-top that gets shot exactly the same that's great uh... who is almost cast uh...

i'm just going with the two main characters the rest of them who cares uh... almost cast how close did they get i don't know where they back up yeah guys who are up for the role or tried for the role or a rumor for the role out of all the way michael douglas kevin costner and nick noldie irritated was a lot of all went that he lost out again to her support that's the case that those guys just fighting for roles the you get it apparently nick noldie uh... was really being considered but uh... he felt he was too old he was like i'm to a little bit of a deal it's not anymore yeah i feel you want to all of them he is one year older than her son for and i we're talking about this last night when they film this or when they shot this movie here's a four was fifty thereabouts tommy jones was forty six forty seven tommy jones looks fifty seven this movie tommy jones is my age in this movie get the hell out here he's got those creases that i think have that it appeared to age his face is forty two when he was twenty two yeah but he's but then he looked the same for ages he's a guy who was looked fifty four years old for about thirty years uh...

right so that was which became a little bit of a little bit of a sudden for samuel garrard uh... only other ones i saw two real ones in one i think is just sort of uh... just a name without their uh... jenakman and john boy as samuel jarrard instead of coming jones jenakman sure he'd been too old but fine yeah the white i don't see it uh...

but then all the one that i think this is a fake it was no gives him i don't think he works in that role i think he's like supposedly he turned it down or didn't work and then but he was already into brevard or something so uh... so if you were to recast those two roles kimble and the marshal with current recasting it today's but i'm going for uh... who would who would you choose as those roles i also mind first if you want so for doctor richard kimble uh... i've wanted to back up go bradley cooper i think that work and i've got maybe uh...

christ pine maybe uh... ryan gosling i've christened i'm i was for a while but i have a very he's a little older but i think might still work i had legal mortensen uh... as kimble as kimble he could do it either one i had i had two backups and then i had a changing movie but i had a role so have your bardom and mark and mark ruffler more probably good changing the movie to kind of like flipping the gender and and all of that i had by all the best playing that yeah part that could work trying to think if i have an alternative that's pretty good eric did you have a deal so different it's a different movie it's a different movie but it can't think about and this is for in a couple minutes probably but you think about it the consummate professional that's suddenly kind of in this i think she plays that part really well yeah i think it was my big one and then for the marshal uh... timelie jones uh...

character and having any i have a greater inspiration this but so i went with a couple of that fine and i think i'm liking more more about it matt daman as the marshal uh... and more than and i don't know i considered him for the last one i threw on there in the morning i think this is my guy uh... chadwick boseman but yeah i think he would be an interesting u s commercial way different i think jones but uh... interesting okay eric uh...

and driver that is that's pretty good i like that that's a pretty good yeah i think i i had kind of to play it similarly to tell me jones i was really excited about it and i realized i can't he's done it in another movie and that was robert denny junior yeah he had the he said it's a busy i mean it six zero yeah i had um... woody harrelson that's good i like that too and again and again flipping the script i had regina king i like that one yeah i like that one too i like that one better than uh... available to us uh... woody harrelson's good no i think we have a any number of alternative movies here to make these guys i had a few more characters throwing a while ago so i i i i just did those two uh...

so howling kimball uh... well i mean i know that she's in a movie for right now seconds uh... but uh... what's your name got a big bill like relatively big seal or seal award yeah uh...

cations a to jones uh... and if mark ruffalo is the person julie and more which i know she's an original i thought it works as the smells for that uh... and then and then and then the flip the script uh... or in sisrun as as the spouse of i would have said that's all right right uh...

so these are a couple of smaller parts but i i could stop thinking about it while they were in kasmo i had michael pina yeah sure uh... no other guy with a ponytail just in tamer lake so funny as apart but i thought it would be good uh... sakes i had david thulis who was the who's a bad guy and one woman he was the werewolf professor in harry potter he's got kind of a ginger uh... yeah and then for charles nickels i had two possibilities to give you the first the second one is the one i feel really strongly is a good one first though is the only two key i would play a charles kind of character and then one i really like those christoph waltz uh...

that's that's the right uh... this dot actor is playing christoph waltz dr nichols yeah but i think that the role of christoph waltz would be played by it understudy alright uh... i have some i don't want to go too deep into this is sitting already uh... but memorable quotes that's a memorable seasonable quotes part where they're in the tunnel of before he does the peter pan i don't know my wife i don't care that's a pretty good one that's a that's true i think i was that was another one that i'm really don't i don't think i provided we change what they talk about it change the line of that but why did the act we can see that i don't even think that i'm really don't even acting at the that's a timely don't be a part of the whole i don't think he's acting in most of the i think he's just being and so that's right that's being about and if he's not i would like him just to be that guy i felt like the i don't care line was very much like the i know what i know of hers uh...

uh... uh... very well what is important that in i don't care uh... when the point of the kid gets taken by kopelen in the house and uh...

drard shoot them is his ears rearing whatever outside and he's like you can show me that you're going to be in tonyley jones and then he goes i never that's a good that's a good uh... uh... we already did the classic uh... what happened the guy did a peter pan right off this damn right here and then the most famous one of the one that was quoted forever and was in the trailer i believe uh...

is you know that this is a longer one by the way they're all time in the jones lines and i'm our kimber lines whatsoever with some of the ladies and gentlemen our future has been on the run for ninety minutes average what speed over uneven ground by injuries is four miles per hour that gives a radius of six miles what i want out of each and every one of you is a hard target search of every gas station residence warehouse farmhouse and house outhouse dot house in that area checkpointed up at fifteen miles your future his name if you did his name is doctor richard kimber right ladies and gentlemen is enough we have a fugitive that's been on the run for ninety minutes average but speed over uneven ground barring injuries four miles an hour that will give you a radius of six miles what i want to be to every one of you is a hard target search of every gas station residence warehouse farmhouse in house outhouse and dog house in this area checkpoint will go up at fifteen miles your future name is doctor richard kimber go get it that's that's the movie right there doctor richard doctor uh... so with this movie work today my answer is no fucking way this movie works really in twenty twenty no the movie works because a good movie but this guy could not hide out for that long without being found out it happens all the time when you talk about i'm saying this guy in chicago doing all the stuff he does he's seen ten thousand different times and there's cameras on every corner uh... there's no way all the cell phones no way there's disguises that he could be wearing it happens all the time changes look more than she's here coloring pair one i would agree i think all the all the time he's in the city where he committed the murder and he's been in the newspaper and all these guys are after him and he's constantly being identified in twenty i think i i think it he's on the run for about six weeks and he's captured sixty years and long since then well that was one of the questions i had how long is the time that he i'd this movie is a transpire it's got it's got to be two years right and we've been watching that long since he's in chains that at least go through three four seasons here but it's a changes a few different times you know the cops are off the case and they come back on it because he appeared uh... he's will look this up i think i think it's a while like like a grand holiday took like thirty years that one day and i talk about it i think this took way longer than the movie will lead you to believe i never thought that way i always in my mind that i always need to be like a transpire transpire over maybe a couple weeks at the most oh really yeah i always thought a couple of months like because it always seemed kind of like in that dreary kind of spring like you don't see summer like full-on summer no probably not but you don't see autumn in that way like i i always thought it was a relatively short period of time you know i always said that it was we don't see a i think it's longer but uh...

i don't but it doesn't happen you can remake this movie and let's say it's going to be over six week period of time so the other the other thing that i thought of for this yes you could do it again because uh... big farmers always a big is still a thing but you could also do tech you know like this is uh... related to some software some code or whatever this person uh... to me a whistleblower because of some privacy leak or you know whatever it is in there on the run and so to get to kind of your issues about technology in the business person you know find records or whatever that computers and technology and but that was made is called any of the state it's will Smith and uh...

uh... g-net and that was originally and that was nineteen ninety four i don't know uh... company they use tech but that was not saying but it uses tech more to to capture him right but what i'm saying is so dr richard kimball and some medical professional and he's the one that's you know able to uh... one discovered that they fraudulently did all the stuff but also being able to go in and find these people and uh...

get these tissue samples and all this other stuff that being a medical professional helped him be able to deduce you can do it now with coronavirus there fraudulently doing the testing or that they're fine with sure uh... but i think they could do it uh... it would be the exact same as i know i know i think being in a big city with all the cameras and doing the things he does going into hospitals going into wherever he'd be seen three times a day and he'd be caught uh... so putting aside u.s.

marshals from it wait did eric answer the question well do you think this movie would work today this concept could be in twenty twenty it could with like we just were talking about it could with some there would be some changes to it they would almost have to turn into a thing where i'm i'll take out all the number of like the sizes you have to go through order to realistically avoid being recognized everywhere you know you just put on the groucho of glasses and nose and what was actually a little bit of the old so would what would you want to see in a sequel i think the only sequel is following the marshal it's following and he's the only interesting thing about it doctor kimbles story yeah one it's proven that you've been but yeah his story over unless you're at last it's very good or rather he's doing that city of chicago's able to work wrongfully prosecutor public and he doesn't but yeah uh... all right well now we gotta do the how much are they worth game we do in the school oh yeah sorry you ask a question i stop you no that's that's the question and everything would you want to see it uh... it's just a okay sorry for that just an old joshard that's there's no can't live in the future c was up is that the following julian wars character developing i don't think so but i don't think so or a relationship between uh... here's a part of the day uh...

uh... okay and a second okay how much are they worth game and now let's play the how much are they worth game so this was tough just to rep we do five people in this game and just to find characters that five characters that are worth mentioning or you know actors that play the characters was difficult the actor who plays the dr actor plays uh... dr michols isn't listed in the celebrity net worth dot com so i think that the guy so we're stretching a little bit but it's fine we'll go so first person is how much are they worth uh... civil word so mrs kimble whoa put down a number the c we're sure you want and a long-term tv show or anything any point i think she's done tv fair amount i don't know for fact but a bunch of movies in movies in the late eighties to mid nineties for sure i think you did some tv to what degree i don't know so i don't know i have a number number of number i don't know which of all jesus behind it i'll put you know i have fifteen but we all know i am terrible i always way overshoot or way undershoot so you were let's see here uh...

okay all right um... everyone just calm down prepare yourself to your sitting down for this c-lord is american actress according to the celebrity net worth i think we knew that uh... who had a net worth of fifty million dollars who is she she's very new oh my god i went that just because i'm an idiot but what what are what are the credits for i'd have to go into it here but and they and they were certain after moving to new york to pursue a career advertising uh... she began modeling something in k uh...

tv shows sisters once and again csi new york uh... if i would have gotten her some money probably fifty i think number man uh... julian more what is her network her i believe would be good i'll think i think i never heard julian more say forty five i'll say i'll say uh... thirty five julian more okay someone hit it right on the head uh...

julian more have a net worth of fifty million dollars and i should have a one for me and i think i thought i'd be quite five million to the word well based on this all my next answers are fifty million dollars joe pantaleano jerry pants what is isn't that where probably uh... and only on the right around forever i don't know if he's in here showy i don't know if he's in here you try to put this job i don't know uh... okay i'm gonna go see the word throw me way off um... let's go it is a lot of time ago twenty five i'll go twenty i had seventeen of my head seventeen joe pantaleano uh...

you know i'm a cipher in the matrix uh... tehine uh... frances fratelli in the gunis uh... guito the killer pimp in risky business mmm okay he uh...

joe pantaleano's net worth is eight million dollars that's a hard one because he's been he's been so much so much i know trying but he's never he always is character actor but at the same time he's done so much as hard to get a hard one gauge he's always like the second or third of all but or the fourth of what's the movie with uh... denero and chris groton uh... denero taking him back to the bill bondsman or a bounty hunter yeah i don't know if it's a great movie uh... he's in that too anyway uh...

okay tommy jones never get to the big guys tommy jones i did everything for a quick moment because i i think french is in there and i run for an incident character and that's that's one that's what we should review at some point um... tommy lee he's been in a lot of stuff uh... leading man or supporting actor in a lot of stuff i have a number um... what's your number is ninety seven million i'm way the fuck off eric what's your number eighty five i am in either have nailed it or i'm out of my mind uh...

sixty two million item low twenty million dollars from you guys what did you say eric eighty five tommy lee jones has a net worth of eighty five million dollars jeez whoo this is actually eric gets to on the nose the score is four to one to one i think you got in the day there uh... in finally here's in for what is here's in ford's net worth i we have definitely done this on this podcast but in on this podcast before i no we do a lot of repeat with the time of the jones eighty five uh... here's in the north i will prepare for i remember uh... two twenty five that was my number i wrote down to twenty five the to sixty seven okay uh...

is american actor aviator pilot and producer uh... he plays on solo star wars trilogy and i believe he was in the end of james no he had jobs uh... is a net worth of three hundred million program alson gets it and eric wins the score of four to two don't get about some of those and i am way off what was it worth three hundred i just put down there is the because eric's been right because he's got everything so uh... yeah well that's not a few different equals in thoughts eric uh...

watching it watching the first time i watched it a long time yeah and yeah it it held up very very well i was i forgot how good it really was it really was a lot it's on tv a lot and we'll have it like on the background sometimes on a random sunday or something but just i don't think i've sat down and watched it start to finish in a while it's really good uh... and it's definitely telling the jones movie here's and for his fine but uh... he's almost an interchangeable part yeah versus time you be jones it's hard to imagine anybody else and that's the u-s deputy marshall uh... sandal jar yeah that's good and it doesn't happen all that much where you think of his important interchangeable character but against how many jones i mean it was he was great but i think i was really that part one of the one of the hairs and for ever to get back to anybody right now alright guys uh...

let's wrap it up and then we'll come back with whatever new movie we do in a couple weeks this is a good one to get the books i'd like to clear up that the walkie does not have an L which is referenced in the uh... that we can say one walking well did it have any sort of any part of the track was elevated in the nineties i don't know they don't even have to be there is no other than like uh... the time of the track that's not and researchers you need to be close by since it was has a no walkie has a no you'll find it uh... all right we are by