Pubcast 58: Die Hard

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Okay, welcome back to the PUBC cast. This is another very special episode as we dive into Die Hard. Allison, Eris and Paulie join me on this one as we go into one of my favorite movies. I think the only person who likes this movie more than me would be Paulie.

So he had to be on this episode and Eris is a big fan as well as Allison. So we had fun on this one. We dive into a bunch of the clips and quotes and our favorite scenes. And this one was a lot of fun.

Very similar to our Goodfellers podcast, although this episode was a little faster paced. And we even dive into the age old question of is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Of course it is, if you think it's not then you are wrong. We of course have a fun section in the recastor bait section, but this episode marks the second or third or fourth time in a row that I have won the How Much are they Worth game?

So based on that, I'm declaring myself the all time greatest player of this game, regardless of any previous performance. Anything that happened before this little run of three or four episodes to me doesn't exist. So I've wiped this late clean and going forward, I am the all time winningest player at my own game. So there's that too.

So sit back, relax, and get ready for Die Hard. We thank you one and all and wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year. It's Christmas Eve in LA. But a team of terrorists.

You want money? What kind of terrorists are you? Who said we were terrorists? Have their own holiday plan.

And I'm telling you, you just got the kill? OK. We're doing the hard work. But the one thing they didn't plan on was New York cop, John McLean.

I'm going to fight the Christmas party by mistake. Who knew? You already think you have a chance against us, Mr. Cowboy.

You're the guy, you motherfucker. I'm doing the damage. They have already killed one person. These channels reserved for emergency calls only.

They're going down like a morning pizza! Good pop behind you. You really in America? The only in New Jersey, Council.

What is the biggest door for? The cops. They're in artillery on us. Good idea.

It's called police. See you. See you, the lazy guy, the light. Welcome to the body pal.

And the hard man to kill. Who's really? Die hard. Die hard.

Die hard. 1988. The plot as it is with, I think this is IMDB, sort of the very no-nonsense plot. NYPD officer tries to save his wife and several others taken hostage by German terrorists during Christmas party at the Nakatomi Plaza in Los Angeles.

The end. That's all we have. That's simple. Turn the black guy off.

We're done. Good job, everyone. That was 88. So where were you?

What did you think when you first saw it? I mean, definitely me and Paulie and Allison were in high school. I saw it in the theater. Yeah, I saw it in the theater.

I was all over it. I didn't know what to expect doing it. We knew it was a kind of an action hero thing, but it was Bruce Willis. We didn't know except for moonlighting.

So it was weird. My mother was a huge moonlighting fan. And I would watch every now and then, like little clips. I just thought it was funny.

You were a huge David Addison fan. That's true. So did she want to go and see the movie because of? I don't think so.

I can't imagine my mom and myself going to watch Die Hard at the movies. That would be sort of weird. No, really. Yeah.

So I don't, I remember seeing the second one in the theater with my best friend from high school, but I don't, I want to say we saw Die Hard maybe on HBO at his house first. I don't think I saw it at the, at the theaters. Yeah. I think, I think we rented it.

It was a VHS rental. I think the first time I would have seen it. I know I did not see it in the theater. Little blockbuster action.

Yes. Definitely. Now you're making me second guess. Cause we, it would have been like the summer after our freshman year, I think.

July 15th, 1988. So I had friend, I had at least one friend who could drive. One friend in one robot. That's right.

One. That's a puddle. That's a puddle. You're a so B.

July 15th, 1988. Yeah, I'm sure I saw the theater. You were Mr. Theater somehow.

I don't think I ever went to the. Well, I mean, like, AT and like some other like kid movies when I was in movies all the time because it was just well. 15 year olds or 17 year olds. It was that or go bowling.

That was about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I bought a lot. Eric, do you remember? I remember the movie as a kid. I was, you saw it on TV or VHS somewhere.

Yeah. Yeah. And way later, much later than I would care to admit, I would, I would, I would. I was 12 when it came out.

I think I finally, like it was not like a movie that we would have. There would have been no consensus that I would have been able to get everybody else in the family to agree to watch NAR. Between Annie and Susan. They're not running.

They're not running. They're limited options. I honestly think I might have been. I think it was in the 20s already by the time I saw it.

Wow. Yeah. So I had this in the fun fast. But anyway, yeah.

So this was kind of a different kind of action movie. It wasn't the Schwarzenegger, you know, kill them all movies. It had more of a plot. And I was reading, I think it was, here it is.

The screenwriter was Jeb Stewart. Jeb. There's not enough people named Jeb. Jeb Stewart said it wasn't meant to be a big action movie.

It was more of a thriller. And the character is in the film, McLean, his wife, his friendship with Powell. But that's really the main crux of the movie is that it's these characters and their relationships and the action kind of happens around them. But not really.

It's not an action movie per se. It is today. But at the time, there wasn't a lot of those. We've seen how many other, how many, how many dozens of movies have been made that are die hard rip-offs, you know, speed, you know, die hard on a bus, die hard on a boat, die hard on a plane, die hard on a plane, die hard on a whatever.

Skyscraper is the die hard in a bigger skyscraper with the rock, right? Yeah. So anyway, I liked it. I was all over it from the beginning.

So I thought that the other and the screen thing holds up. We watched it just now, probably like. And now they check. Yes.

And we watch it pretty much every year around Thanksgiving weekend. Hold up. So run to make those scores. What do you, let's hear what the critics, what do you think the critics gave it and what do you think the audience gave it?

I'm going to say critic score 75%. Okay. Critics 75. That's pretty high.

80 for Eric. Paul. I don't know if it was a big critic movie. I'm going to go like 60 maybe.

If I didn't know out of guess low, I would have said in the 60s for sure. I was like, Oh, it's. I had seen something that Roger Ebert had given it a thumbs down as a. He's got a record of.

Well, but then he liked the sequel. The two sequels and he went back and apparently like. Revised his original review and gave it a thumbs up. Like he just.

He didn't. Because it was kind of new. It was kind of new. He didn't like the.

The deputy sheriff guy he thought that character was complete nonsense. And it kind of ruined the movie and any momentum and all of that stuff that he just thought that that was just so poorly. That was such a poor part of the movie. Attracted from other stuff.

Come on, Raj. This movie is funnier than you remember it. Yeah. When you watch it again, oh, yeah, it is like super funny.

I don't. Okay. I don't even know if there's a lot of dialogue to the movie. It's all like almost like catch phrases or.

Like I was. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Because when I was rewatching it, I'm like, I'm just writing down every like one line or whatever. I'm like, oh my God, there's a million like every single scene.

There's a one. We just did that. Good fellas podcast. We just published it.

We did it. Fucking five weeks ago. And we were saying that that was a super quotable movie that every line is a quote that you remember. Die hard is one of those deals where every single thing someone says is something you repeat to your friends over and over and over.

Yeah, that's true. So what do you think the audience gave it? Could it escape it 94 audience? I don't know.

Every time we say the audience is more generous and then we end up like we're on. I'm going to say 90. I'm going to I'm still going to stick with it. The audience like the even more.

I'll say 98. Okay. I'm going to go low again. I want to say maybe 85 because they were still trying to fit Bruce Willis into this new action star.

So the critics gave it 94. The audience gave it 94. Oh my God. It was closest.

No, you said 98. This is price. This is price. It's right rules.

It's right rules. You guys aren't all together by the way. Are you? Yeah.

Okay. We're in my basement at the bar. All right. All right.

So we talked about the screenwriter and how it was a different kind of movie and the story. If you guys did any research, you probably came over some of this stuff. There's tons of fun facts in trivia. I'm going to try not to go over all of it so we can spend more time on the recasting stuff.

But throw out your favorite piece of trivia. Go ahead. You know the biggest thing that hit me when I was just looking into shit that I didn't know is Holly Generro Bonnie Bidelia is fucking McCully Culkin's aunt. That was my little secret when I was going to throw in there.

I didn't know. That went like through me for like a major loop. I couldn't. I don't know why.

It was like what? Yeah. I know. She's his.

Come call his dad's sister. Yeah. I've got two little bits of trivia. I resisted like reading a lot of stuff.

So one is that there were 17 different tank tops worn by Bruce Willis in various forms of degradation of staining. Yeah. And then the other and now I want to go back and watch it watch the scene again. But apparently in the scene where Bruce Willis were John McLean, King's Carl on the chains that when John McLean kind of slumps down on the floor, you can see the actor who plays Carl watching from the wings like editing and error where you can see him apparently standing in the background.

Yeah. So like, oh my God, I got to go back and watch it. See if I can see it. That's funny that you say the tank top color because I noticed like right at the beginning of the movie, I'm like, why is this tank top sort of like an army green at this point?

Like, I think it was like right after he killed Carl's brother when they fell down the stairs. And then all of a sudden he was like, it was like a grayish green color. And I'm like, it's like, right? I think it turned that color.

We once he came out of the air conditioning duct. That's what it was. Yeah. He came out.

I particularly noticed that today that it was, it was, it went from whiteish to like brown or army green like that. Like, not like, oh, spots of it or some dirt here and there. Like the whole thing just changed color completely. Yeah.

Crazy. All right. I'll throw out a couple of quick hits. A lot of this stuff we already know, but for the listening audience will throw out.

Knock it to me tower is actually the headquarters or was headquarters for 20th century Fox. There was not a 20. The Yippie Kya line was improvised by Bruce Willis, who was simply trying to make the crew laugh and never expected to be in the film. Alan Rickman was generally scared in that fall when they had them off of the edge at the end.

They were going to count one, two, three and let him go and they let him go after one or two. It dropped him a beat too early. So his reaction was real. Was that intentional?

Yeah. To get an offense to. Two. This is one of my favorite ones.

The German terrorists or the German that the terrorists speak in a theatrical version is mostly just gibberish. They cleaned it up and put actual German for the home video released later on. I think that's probably what we saw. I don't remember what the early one, the first one sounded like, but I can imagine just German gibberish.

Or pseudo German gibberish. Was that a, an era of bad guys are German? You know how there's been like different eras of like, there's, you know, it's Middle Eastern. Now it's German.

Now it's, I guess so, but it was sort of the middle of the Cold War or the end of the Cold War. So you would think they'd be rushing or something. I think they were just going for a general Euro trash sort of. Hans is German, but then there was like, uh, was it Marco?

He was clearly was German. So yeah, I think it was just different European. Like, so there's a fortune out of Europe. Yeah.

Then the Asian guy that's in like every movie. Oh, I love that guy. I don't know what I mean. He was a bit so.

I like that guy. Uh, Die Hard was Alan Rickman's first movie. He got the role after the director saw, the casting director song in the stage version of dangerous nasons. That's a great little first movie.

Yeah. He's probably the second most popular actor that came out of this movie, right? I mean, Bruce Willis obviously number one, but Alan Rickman had a huge career after this movie. Yeah.

I mean, no one else. I'm just looking down the list of who was in there. Well, he was apparently a little nervous about being typecast as a villain being that his first role big movie role was as a villain. Yeah.

It was so well received that that was kind of a. He wasn't too worried about it. I mean, he played some major villains across the way. Oh, sure.

I mean, Snape in the three part movies and, uh, Sure. I'm not. Sure. Robin Hood.

Uh, so he didn't speak to you. He barely had any experience firing prop guns, Meaning that every time he shot one, he sort of winced every single time. So the director said to cut almost immediately every shot of guns, he wouldn't see his face. It's so funny you say that because when he realizes that, um, Holly Jenerro is John the claims wife when he flips over the photo and he comes racing out of that office, he's like, he's shooting in the air and he's like sliding on the ground and I just thought it was really kind of.

Then I kind of chopped it up to that. He's not really the guy that shoots the gun. He's the brain behind the operation and he's not the henchmen. So I kind of.

You can explain it away, but it's because Rickman didn't feel like it wasn't comfortable with guns yet. That's an awesome slide shoot though. If you watch it, it's like a soft shoe shooting head. I often confuse that with when he comes out to hold up the, uh, walkie talkie to have McLean here, the people screaming.

Yeah. I put those together. I think he slides like two or three times into my mind. He's just constantly sliding.

I have another bit of trivia. I've got a couple of Rickmans still. Oh, okay. And this is all sort of half ass.

I don't know if I believe all this, but it's just funny. We care about being accurate. So apparently his character was going to be wearing and I guess all the bad guys were going to be wearing sort of tactical terrorism. Or costumes and Alan Ripman was the one who told the, uh, the director, hey, why don't we, why don't I just wear a suit and, you know, be more professional and be more buttoned up and I can wear a suit.

I can blend into the crowd and be a hostage in one scene and he let that for Joel Silver, who's the producer. I guess, right? And Joel Silver said, get the hot air. We took the costume.

He wear it. We're going to say it. We're in the next day. Yeah.

Yeah. I thought it was just where it suits. So great move by Joel Silver. John Phillips.

I looked up John Phillips. I thought that was a real suit maker, but no, total bullshit. Oh, really? Yeah.

You could have said I could have been Armani or whoever. I guess he didn't unless it's off the grid. I think it's a great suit maker. Let's see.

That's coming. Well, I had one going back to, um, Paul, you were making the comment earlier about. Bruce Willis really being known for moonlighting and a comedy. Um, role that they were going to originally have him on the movie poster, but then they took him off and put Nakatomi Plaza on it because they were afraid people would think it was going to be mainly a comedy.

Yeah. So they had a totally like rethink their promotion to avoid. People mistaking what the movie was supposed to be, even though, you know, as we said, there's, there's a lot of funny parts to it. It was not intended to be a comedy.

No, you can, you can market this guy not known for this kind of movie. Right. And it was a, I guess it was a really big, even casting was a big debate and a big gamble because he had made like one other movie before that was a comedy and totally bomb. So then he was going to be in die hard and it was a serious question about, are we making a horrible mistake like putting this guy in the movie?

Well, but it all worked out. So the screenwriter Stewart, uh, after doing die hard, he did another 48 hours, which started Eddie Murphy. Right. And then one of the first things that Eddie told them when they got on set was, uh, I should have been John McCain.

I should have been the star of die hard. What's that? I'm gonna hold it off. Eddie Murphy in 88, I think definitely could have pulled it off.

Yeah. But I think of it very, very different way. He was a couple of years, a couple of years away from Beverly Hills cops. So it kind of went was, oh yeah, Beverly Hills cop was the first one.

84 right. Something like that. The other one that I like from the, on the director side, John McTearnan is one of only two directors with films in both the IMDB top 250 and bottom 100. So best movies and worse movies.

Die Hard is in the top 250 while the 2002 version of roller ball is in the bottom 100. The only other director to accomplish this feat is Guy Richie. Our man Guy Richie is in the top and the bottom. It's the bottom one, the one with Madonna when they're on the desert.

Sure. I gotta figure King Arthur's gotta be down there as well. At least on that far. No.

No. I think it's the one where the one that Madonna is. Yeah. Yeah.

It's gotta be the one that's in the bottom. Yeah. He's got me. He directed Predator the year before.

Yeah. I've got him and directed him for Red October to your. Yeah. I got him down for Predator.

Last action hero. Don't forget October and the Thomas Crown Affair. The news big ones. He had a pretty good runner.

Yeah. He had a good run. I was looking at his IMDB. After like 2003, he disappeared.

Yeah. He had some debt or anything, but he had some legal issues. Did he? Yeah.

He had a business partner that they had some sort of falling out and John McTearnan put a legal phone tap on his business partner's phone and then purge it himself to the FBI when he testified about it. And it's like, I want to say he might have even done a little bit of jail time. Oh my God. But yeah, that's what happened to John McTearnan.

The teddy bear that John McLean brings on the airplane and gives his children for Christmas, belonged to director John McTearnan and was used again in his 1990 film, the Hunter Red October. Quality kills in this movie. How many, again, this is half asked, but how many kill how many total kills are in the movie? How many people die in that?

Because curls can't place. Well, there's 11 terrorists, right? 12. They're 11 or 12 with Rickman.

Did Theo die? I'm trying to remember how he died. No, he got punched out by our guy. Yeah.

That's the seahull. Theo escapes and sounds Facebook. Okay. So 11.

I'm going to go with 20. 20. What do you think? It's probably a decent guess.

Civilians, please. Did anyone die on the roof when the whole roof blew up? Yeah. How many cops drive the freaking RV?

Send in the car. Yeah, maybe 30. 20, 30. Eric, we got.

That's what the difference 25. Yeah, there's all those the guy in the front desk that gets shot by. Oh, yeah. Then there's that security guy by the elevator to cocky.

Yeah, guys on the cop. I think four in there. And then there was Ellis, of course. They're the most important kill.

Yeah. Maybe it's three. The number I have for kills in the movie is 22. Oh, well.

So I take that with the green assault on screen kills by John McLean. The number I have is 10. Did you tally them yourself? No, somebody else.

I didn't know if that's what you're doing. He doesn't tally anything. I like other people do the word. And then I just regard to that.

So I did have a question though. We did this for Good Bell as well, Polly. But what song do you associate most with this movie? Is it Beethoven's Symphony No.

9? Or is it Run DMC's Christmas in Hollis? Oh, the. Oh, enjoy that.

Oh, good. Good. Because I don't really consider this a Christmas movie, but I guess it is. Right?

We're fighting. I don't know why it does it. Yeah, it is, but it is. It's the most Christmas movie.

I think it's got to be Run DMC because every time I do hear that song, I think of this movie. You can go right off the bat. Eric, what do you vote for? Oh, to Joy.

Oh, to Joy. And I think I'm there as well. Three for Beethoven, one for Run DMC. And I like that Polly picks the Run DMC, but yet doesn't consider the Christmas movie.

Yeah. The one that's about Christmas. Yeah. Christmas song.

It's during Christmas. So all right. While we're here. This is a Christmas movie.

It cannot. This all everything that happens in this movie only happens because it's Christmas. It's he flies to California because he's going to this Christmas party. They're at the building that is mostly empty because it's Christmas.

He's bringing the bear for Christmas. Bring the bear for Christmas. Oh, oh, oh. The catchphrases or the.

I guess there's something he wrote is Christmas Eve. There's Christmas decorations at all their place. There's a Christmas song. Everything is Christmas.

I don't see it. Goddamn it. You know the most iconic sound in the movie to me is. What?

The glass breaking? The elevator. The ding of the elevator. Every time the elevator dings something like when the elevator dings and it explodes and it blows the Christmas tree over, I laugh every single time.

That one like kills me. But anytime I hear that elevator sound, I think I heard it's crazy. I'm going to put that sound in this. Yeah.

By itself. Huh. I didn't aspect that. Right.

Okay. I'm going to go through some of the casting issues. This is how people were cast or who was almost cast. I don't know if any of it is factual whatsoever.

I have a bunch of names and some of it is legit. Somebody is garbage. So here we go. And then we'll get into the recast.

First off, I hope you say the full name of this one guy because it is totally you bullshitting when you normally say someone's name and you add like four other names into it. I thought of you right off the bat. So when you go through the character's name, not the actor's name. But I didn't even know it was a middle name until I saw it somewhere.

When I was watching the movie, Alan Rickman says his full name. That might be a clue. I don't think I have this one. So all I have here, so for people who were almost cast are for John McLean, Hans Gruber and Al Powell, Sergeant Powell.

That's all I got. So we'll get to McLean in a minute because there's a laundry list of people. Other than Reginald Vell Johnson who played Sergeant Powell, the other guy considered was Wesley Snipes apparently. I don't know if that's accurate or not, but that's the only name I came up with.

I saw it somewhere. The only other name I found for Hans was Sam Neal from Hunter October, McLean guy. I can believe that. When we get to John McLean, it's basically name every big actor in Hollywood age 35 to 45.

So, and one, here we go, one. Potential John McLean's include Sylvester Stallone, Harrison Ford, Bert Reynolds, Don Johnson, Richard Eart, Clint Eastwood, Paul Newman, Mel Gibson, here's the one that I can't believe anyone even considered it, Al Pacino, Ridiculous Kurt Russell, Robert De Niro and Arnold Schwarzenegger. I saw Michael Madsen was also considered. And Frank Sinatra.

Right. What? There's a story behind that. Oh, I got something about it.

This is awesome. to be inspired by a book titled Nothing Last Forever, about a 65-year-old ex cop who came to Los Angeles and goes to visit his daughter. It was a sequel to a 1966 book called The Detective. Frank Sinatra starred in the 68 film adaptation of The Detective and was offered the chance to reprise the role of John McLean in the follow-up, but he refused because he was a thousand years old.

They were contractually obligated to offer him the role. Yeah. Wow. So I saw, I intentionally skipped over it and didn't really look at it.

But when you said that you didn't have it, I pulled it up. So for Holly Generro McLean, actresses considered for that role, were Linda Hamilton, Gina Davis, Deborah Winger, Michelle Fyfer, Jamie Lee Curtis, Carrie Fisher, and Kelly McGillis. Wow. That's a hell of a list.

It's interesting how, I mean, that's a lot of people that to go through the list. And same with the John McLean, just how do people for a small role too? Yeah. But for him, the number of people on the list for potentials, whether they actually, I almost called it interviewed, but auditioned for it, whether that whole list auditioned or not.

Yeah. But it's just, I mean, it just seems like a big, long list. It's crazy. And it's fascinating that Bruce Willis ended up getting it, given his experience as an action.

I can see it. Some of these guys, they were leaning into the action stuff. And once they figured out that it wasn't an action movie, then no sports coordinator, no salon, some of these other people fall off of it. I love the Bert Reynolds.

Yeah. That's a ridiculous one. But I only love Bert Reynolds if Don Delouis is Al Powell. Yeah.

Yeah. Now that is a recast of it. That's funny. Holy shit.

That's pretty good. I like that one right there. All right. Recastor bait.

All right. Better close the door. It's time to be constubated. We are going to focus mainly on the core for this round robin.

Round. John McLean, Hans Gruber, Sergeant Powell, and I'm throwing in Carl because he's the secondary bad guy. Then after that, it's sort of a wild car. Let's just throw out names.

I can go on the list, but it's not going to be one by one by one, but it would be more free-filling because there's so many people in the game. OK. Should we start with John McLean? Sure.

I have two. And two only. My number one would be John Krasinski as McLean. Oh, interesting.

OK. My number two, I think, is probably equally strong, but I like Krasinski better. Would be Chris Pratt. I had him on my list.

I mean, I think he comes up a lot for these kinds of roles. I mean, the Indiana Jones type stuff, that's a Chris Pratt type deal. All right. So other than Chris Pratt, I had Michael B.

Jordan. And then going in a slightly different direction, I had Donald Glover playing kind of the quiet cop, but would have kind of a sense of humor. Like, as I was watching it today, I'm kind of listening to some of the dialogue and stuff like that, the banter back and forth with puns. I think I like it.

I think I like it better than Michael B. Jordan for it, maybe. Michael B. Jordan's a little bit more serious, I think.

But well, that's the thing. When they were, when they talked about casting Chris Willis, one of the things that they were saying is, we needed to cast a guy with the mouth and the attitude first, and then do the action stuff later. So I was thinking, like, who can do the attitude? I did have Juncker Zinski and my list, too, but I also had Bradley Cooper.

I considered Oscar Isaac. And then I also, like, is the one I think I picked at the end. John David Washington. Oh, yeah.

Denzel was boy. Yeah, he was just in pennant. Yeah. Oh, that'd be good.

Did you see him in the Black Clansman? I did. Was it good? Yeah, I didn't want to.

Yeah, it's good. Oh, you any thoughts on a new John McLean? New John McLean. How about the Jack Black?

You've got the funny. I don't know what the cops side of things. Yeah. Right.

I would just, I would be laughing too hard at him, like, diving behind desks and stuff like that, because it would be so comedic. He's not giving the cartwheel that he does. He's getting snuck in the air, though, to share. If you go more on the cops side, maybe a John Cena, you know, like a big, bulky dude.

That's all I got. All right. All right. Hans Gruber, I only thought really of, I should have had more options for this one, but I only went with two.

My second place guy is Mark Strong. He was the bad guy in the Robert Downey Jr. British investigator show of Holmes. Thank you.

He was the bad guy in that. He was Merlin in Kingsman. Yep. Yeah.

I think that the gadget guy from the Kingsman. Yep. He was my second place guy. My first place I was thinking Paul Bettany.

Oh, interesting. That's a good one. It's very British. Yeah.

Kind of like Rickman. Yeah. After that, I didn't really put a lot of thought into it. Yeah.

I had a lot. And so now I've kind of gone down to four, and I'm going to go from like, at least to my best. Least is Matthew Goode or Matthew Goode, Adam Driver. Oh, that might be that.

I like Adam Driver, yeah. That's a good one. Henry Cavill. That's good.

And my favorite is Tom Hiddleston. Oh, that's a good one. That's the leader in the clubhouse right now. I went through a whole bunch.

I have more names for Hans, than anybody else. And I thought he was going to be harder to cast, but I've found myself finding a bunch of names. I thought of Harvey everybody at one point. It'd be a very different movie, but Tilda Swinton.

I love Tilda Swinton whenever she comes up in her sarcastic. She's always a wild card. Yes. You throw her in for good stuff.

My runner up, Michael Fosbinder. Oh, that's a good one. And then my pick. I'm just going to take that smile.

My pick, Kristoff Walz. Oh, yeah, that's a really, yeah. What? How did I not think of that one?

That's a good one. Kristoff Walz. All right. I think that's a good one.

Oh, you have any thoughts on Hans? Hans would be Aquafina? No, that's what's now. Who did I have?

I'm just looking at a list, Colin Firth, and then I wouldn't work either. I don't have anybody that's really that you guys haven't covered already. That would be a good one. We threw in a lot.

Yeah. All right. I'm going to go back to you, Paulie, and give you the option of starting. If you have one for Sergeant Al Powell.

Sergeant Al Powell. Tyler Perry, isn't he hot and popular? Sure. That's a good one.

I've got an Al Powell. To me, it's the, we can stop casting it for this guy. It's just one guy. There's nobody else.

OK. I think it's Kenan Thompson. Kenan Thompson's Al Powell. And then you shut it down after that.

He was my pick as well. Interesting. My backup for him would be like Anthony Mackie. Falcon from the Avengers stuff.

He was also on my list. I had two guys. There's a third one. I'm almost too embarrassed to list.

One is Winston Duke, who is in Black Panther. He's good too. On my list. And the other, Eric, you still look for a different character is John David Washington.

Oh, sure. I feel like he's too young. He hasn't lived long enough to have the experiences of Al. You know?

He looked for someone that could have made him a sake. It could have been deep in the career. Yeah. Three of my four have already been said.

Kenan Thompson was my first. I had Anthony and Winston Duke on my list. And then the fourth one I had thrown in there was John Boyega. Yeah, I have him somewhere else.

I do too. Yeah. That's good. I do.

I do. I do. I do. We're casting 37 characters.

You're going to have some more of that. Kenan definitely takes it there. Yes. He's an easy one.

All right. This is one I'm afraid to hand this over to somebody else. I will. Carl.