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Okay, welcome to the Top Gun episode of the podcast. This one was a pretty straightforward episode as Eric, Allison, and I discussed the movie that submitted Tom Cruise as a superstar and really set the template for all Tom Cruise movies the next 10 to 15 years. We actually had a lot to say when we were casting this movie and came to a rare consensus about who should build the Kelly and Gills role of Charlie. So check that out and get ready as we break down the Top Gun.
I'm going to send you up against the best. Sir, you two characters are going to Top Gun. I feel the name. The name.
Where's Steve? Five weeks ago, flying is the best fight in the world. Guys really are Cowboys. I'm the instructor at this school.
I said 20 new high shots of eight weeks. I don't like you because you're unsafe. That's right. I am dangerous.
I'm too wild-hearted. That's why the studio is cast. I guess when I see something right away after. It takes a lot more than just fancy flying.
Film in this school is about combatting. There are no points for second place. I think I can see that one out of my own. Tom Prunes, Kelly McGillis.
Top Gun. All right. Top Gun. No nonsense plot.
As students at the United States Navy's elite fighter-weapon school compete to be the best in class, one daring young pilot learns a few things from a civilian instructor that are not taught in the classroom. Wow. That's as bad as we've heard. I think it's kind of very the lead.
Yes, it mentions their fighter pilots, but that's all it says. Someone did this wrong. Okay. Top Gun, where were you when you saw it?
Where did you see it? Impact? Whatever. I definitely specifically remember seeing it where we saw it.
When we saw it. Some of the people I saw it with. Oh, I do too. It is a very specific memory.
I don't have that often. Yeah, I know. This one stands out likely because our age we saw it. So we were in, this was 86, seventh grade, eighth grade, summer of summer in between.
This was, for lack of a better term, this was a group date for our class. I was in a small Catholic grade school in Southern California and we had a class of 35 kids or whatever it was. And something like 15 of us went to go see this, you know, half and half, probably boys and girls, different take. So in no way it wasn't a date, but it felt like a date because we were all 12 years old or 15.
So that's how I saw it. It was at the local mall we always went to. There was an orange Julius right by the figure. There was an arcade across the way.
Wow. It was like best for my life. Yes. It was very like Marty McFly 80s.
Wow. That was great. I did not see it in the theater, but I was at a friend's house and her name was Jesse and I, she was the third of four girls. She had two sisters who were in high school and they wanted us all to watch it for what soon became obvious reasons to us.
But we watched it. You're in her living room. I can, I could draw the layout of this living room. Yeah.
Watching it. And we, they ended up. So this was like early on with VHS too. It was one of the first kind of commercially available by to own videos and they stopped and rewound the volleyball scene about 13 times.
The older girls are older girls. Yeah. And so we're, you know, seventh grade like started like we're just in our coming of age thing and, but it was so distinct. And I was like, Oh, God, like it was so gratuitous.
And so whatever that, yeah, I mean, I just remember that whole, it was like a defining day. I remember of my middle school. I want to come back to that in a second. Eric, where were you?
When did you first see it? I'm sure it was not in the theater. It was definitely not in the theater. It was also in VHS.
Like Alison said, this was like one of the first sort of like by to own VHS movies that you could buy and dad bought it. It's actually on spec, you know, never he never saw before either. But dad is always a big aviation guy. And that was a big movie that was all about fighter jets.
And he bought it and brought it home one day and one day on the weekend. And I remember we were watching it and this was before PG 13. The movie wasn't quite our, but it was so good. But it was so PG with the bullets swearing all over the place.
And I remember making a comment to my mom because I was, I was, I guess, I guess 11 at the time, ish. So I was actually almost like excited about how much swearing was it because I never heard that much swearing before. And I made some. Except for when dad was working in the garage.
Right. A tapestry of obscenity. But I made some comment to mom about how much swearing there was in it. And after that day, it was, I think it was for like a couple of weeks afterwards.
Mom would not allow us to watch that movie without a grown up present. Wow. Wow. So we were, for weeks after that, we were hounding, like Jill, Susan and I were hounding mom or hounding, not hounding dad.
That would never go down to flight. That's a mistake. Yeah. So we would hound mom and Johnny was living at home at that time.
So I remember we would hound Johnny too because he was a grown up. But if he'd be home with a grown up there, then we could watch the movie. And I don't understand what that was supposed to accomplish. I don't know either.
You're anything different when there was a grown up present? But when you heard you had already seen it. Right. Right.
The horses out of the barn at that point. Right. What's going to happen? But yeah, after a couple, I think it was a maybe at the most, it seemed like a lot longer when you're living here.
But it must have been only maybe a weaker two at the most. Mom finally got the first time. I don't even know if you want to do some pilot shoot. I said, okay, you guys, you guys could just watch.
Yeah. On the third viewing, they really let the F-bomb fly. Right. The first two times, no way.
Yeah. Yeah. Shortly after seeing this movie, it was the same summer, it was just after. I snuck into my first radar movie.
And that was, it's a funny name throughout there, but I wish I had chosen my first radar movie better. I mean, my first movie, I snuck in and saw alone without an adult was Cobra with special one. Wow. Excellent.
Or a fake ladies movie. I love the movies and these made many. It might be the worst. It's up there.
Bravo. Yep. Worth the risk. So you mentioned this volleyball scene.
Yeah. And that scene in particular, but also throw in the locker room scenes. Yeah. Throw it all into one batch.
I don't know if it was thought of this way at the time. We were all too young. But in the years after, and certainly seeing it now, my question is, is that scene? Is that scene or those scenes?
And is this movie the most homoerotic movie of the 80s? Because that's a vibe I got from this. It was very, it was very. I did not at all.
I did not at all. It was like so over the top beef cake that it swung the other way to me. I'm like, wow, this is like, yeah, I did not get that. I did not get that.
I did not get that. I took it the other way that this was. It was a movie intended to be basically a recruiting film for guys to join the Navy or the Air Force. And this is a way to get the women to go with them to the movies.
There's that. Okay. Good. Eric in my off face.
I've heard a lot of those theories too. And as watching it, I can see it even when it's like just Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer getting each other's face of the locker room. Yeah. Oh, it's all like weird.
Yeah. It's very strange. It gets so close to each other. It's not text or not, but it's, I'm sure it's not purposeful or anything.
But, you know, through a older, different lens, that was like, oh, this is, if you wanted to see that, you can see that. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that.
No, I know. But it's so, it's over the top. Yeah. I guess for me, I really kind of thought about it.
It was the way to get women to go to see movie. Yeah. Because that was, that's the draw in, in my opinion. Yeah.
So we'll talk about the Navy or. I will just say in general, though, watching this movie again, everybody is sweaty all the time. Yeah. Everybody is glistening at a minimum and at a maximum, they're dripping sweat all the time.
Everybody needs to shower all the time, not just, not just Maverick. Everybody needs to shower all the time. Even Baldi Stinger is always sweating. Yes.
Tony Scott, give me one second here. But I found it almost distracting this last time. I'm like, gosh, everybody's sweaty. I noticed that too.
Like, where's the air conditioning in 1986? Well, then I'm like, wow, that sub must be like the, they're like in a submarine or like aircraft carrier is like just a stink machine. Okay. I'm looking at it now.
Yeah. I think it's a, I don't do that. It's not exactly a calling card, but I think it's a regular occurrence in both Tony Scott movies and give me his name, Braheimer. Jeremy?
Yeah. Jerry. Jerry. I think it's in both of their movies.
You see a lot of that. A lot of sweating. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. I can be wrong. Okay. Yeah.
That's the point I'm right. Okay. Top down, where's the top performing box office movie of 1986? What do you think it pulled in in 86 dollars?
Hmm. Domestic. Domestic? It's, yeah.
I want to say 175. Almost all the time when I pull these numbers are domestic. Yeah. I'm going to say 175.
That was going to be my number two, but also 150. This to be different. All right. Well, let's go with your first choice and the number was 176 million.
Alison's been on a tear of guessing lately and and. Only on these things. Where the game doesn't count. I'm doing well when there's no pressure.
In the last podcast, she nailed the Rotten Tomatoes scores for the audience in the critics. Wow. Yeah, 175 million for Top Gun. So rounding out the Top 10, I love just the who's who love the 80s movies.
Top Gun number two, Crocodile Dundee, the 160. The first one? Oh, the 160 movie. This is a noise.
That movie was terrible and a phenomenon. Yeah. It took over the 80s for it. It's unwatchable.
It's unwatchable now. It's not great. No. That guy, Ludovis.
Number three, Karate Kid Part 2, 115 million. Good soundtrack, though. That's cool. 91 million.
Was that your? Yeah. What I thought I was older? Number five, Aliens.
Oh. Nice. Number six, The Color Purple, 83 million. Number seven, Star Trek 4, The Boyage Home.
Simple? Yeah. Number eight, Ruthless People. Yes.
Yeah. Classic 71. Number nine out of Africa. I'm robbing you.
Something million. Around the top 10, Ferris Bueller's Day off with 70 million. Wow. Top 10, 70 billion.
I mean, it's $86, but still. What is that now, 120? Yeah, maybe. That's not exactly Murderers' Row, but that's a pretty solid year.
That's pretty solid. I mean, the cost of making top gun was $15 million, and it made $176 million in the US. I can't imagine it. Oh, why don't I load it internationally?
But I didn't do that well with it internationally. So, Ra Ra, USA. Yeah. So, all right.
Rotten Tomatoes score. Audience, what do you think the audience gave it? In 1986? Or, well, now we're done.
Well, I hate knowing what it was, I'm going to say 93. 93? Eric? I'll say 83.
And the audience score for Rotten Tomatoes for Top Gun was, or is, 83. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. The critics score for Rotten Tomatoes. 87. I'm going to say that the critics liked it more.
I think they're going to like the camera work, the editing of the fighter scenes. I had not looked. I couldn't even have guessed what the critics would have put this. I don't know if they liked it or disliked it.
I don't remember. I don't have no idea. Eric, critics. I'm going to say that the critics selected a little bit less.
Usually we're 100% wrong on this, but I think this is going to be the case where the critics selected a little bit less. I'll say 77. So, I said 87, you said 77? Yeah.
The critics gave a score of 54. Really? Wow. Wow.
I think you did it. Yeah. That is a Rotten score. Yeah.
Does that fall into the Rotten area? Yeah. 60 is the cutoff. 50.
Yeah. So I thought critics liked it a little more than that. Clearly not a critical darling movie, but it's a popcorn movie, but still. Yeah.
I would have thought they would have liked it more, not for the script, but for the fighter scenes and stuff like that, the editing. Well, where? I'm right. Where is it?
Where is it? I have it in Trivia somewhere. No. I don't have it here.
Okay. Great. I'm somewhere. I can't find it.
It won three Oscars. And they worked for editing. Sound. Sound mixing and sounding.
Yeah. I'll figure that out. Yeah. So those categories are always one by an action movie of some type.
Yeah. Best sound mixing, best sound editing, best film editing. Yep. The original title of the film was Top Guns.
Cleral? Yeah. Fine. Right.
I'm not going to go into a lot of the details of like, that was based on the fighter town, you know, the real pilot school and all this sort of stuff. We all get it. Director Tony Scott's original vision for the film was Apocalypse Now in an aircraft carrier. I don't think that.
He later realized it was a definite popcorn movie and it was quote unquote rock and roll stars of the sky. So he made it a little more of the Maverick, Tom Cruise, you know, type of movie. The original script called for Goose. Let's try Goose Goose.
His death to be a result of a mid-air collision. Oh, yeah. The Navy wouldn't approve that. So he changed that to a scenario that was more plausible.
The big thing, an accident that actually happened in real life, but that didn't result in someone dying. Yeah. In order for them to get access to using these fighter jets that the Pentagon required sign off on the script and everything to make sure that it did not in any way tarnish the the military. It did not decrease.
There's time to listen. All of that stuff. Yeah. Kelly McGillis, the character Charlie was originally supposed to be an officer, but the Navy wouldn't approve a script involving two officers, frat nighting, frat, and the police.
And then she was based off of the actual civilian person, call signed legs. Apparently. Yeah. And I guess the story goes that woman retired as like the deputy secretary defense, like the highest ranking woman in the defense department ever.
But she used to wear heels and stockings all the time too and like clacked around the halls and people always knew she was coming and would be prepared because she, yeah, because she, I mean, she's a civilian. So you don't salute her, but her, she always had heels on and she clicked on the hallway legs legs. But this obviously is essentially a recruiting propaganda film for the Navy in many ways. In many ways, this was the obvious and the Navy had to sign off on everything.
And reports are that enlistment in all branches of the military, including the Navy, but not only the Navy. After this film came out spiked like 500% of the Navy actually set up recruiting stations in movie theaters, catching people coming right out of the movie. It's unbelievable. It's like setting up a boxing recruitment gym outside of Rocky or something.
Yeah. A bunch of stuff here. The so-called top gun award for which the pilots in the film compete does not actually exist in the Navy. There is no big competition for the thing.
I did see at the actual facility that apparently they have a thing where you have to pay a $5 fine if you quote anything from this movie, which is awesome. I love that. Val Kilmer, ad lib the moment when he caught the line in the hangar scene. So that's always good.
Well, ad lib. One pilot did die in the filming of all the stunts. He was intentionally doing a flat spin or some sort of spin to get on a dash out of camera. But the plane failed to recover.
He couldn't recover out of it and crashed into the Pacific Ocean. When I read about that too, it surprised me the most. I don't know if it's still the case, but it said that he and the plane were never found. Like he splashed all the ocean and was gone forever.
Couldn't even find that. That's to me. That's the crazy part. That seems unusual.
Maybe he would remove the train. That's my aliens. The famous love scene was shot after filming wrapped. I didn't realize that.
The movie was effectively done. They did reshoots all the time, but this wasn't part of the main filming plan. Kelly McGillis' hair was different at that time. That's what I did, silhouettes and all the dim lighting.
Her hair was wrong in the elevator sequence with Tom Cruise. She wore a hat in that because they were doing later reshoots with people's hair grew up. They didn't do all the other prep. They just said screw it.
We'll just hide it with the hats and lighting and whatever. That's interesting. What is that movie without? How do you sell that relationship without that scene?
That was, I guess, what the screening audiences were saying. How is there no climax to an independent of... You mean quite as? That was why.
It was filmed in Chicago. They weren't even near where the original film was done. It was kind of a rush also. Do you guys have any other trivia?
I've got a couple things. Then Eric, I'll let you say something. If you don't catch mine, then I'll come back. The older guy at the bar that she was on a date with or that's what Maverick thought was actually the consultant on the film whose call sign was Viper and was based on...
I was going to put together a game that involved call signs and made up call signs and whatever. I couldn't figure it out and I didn't want to spend all that time for it. Speaking of, apparently an early version of the script, Merlin's real name was supposed to be... The last name was supposed to be Merlin and his call sign was going to be Wizard.
But they thought it was going to be too complicated. His first name was Magic. It's just Merlin unexplained. I think one goofy name is good enough.
I'll do one other piece of trivia in one comment. One of the things that I saw was that the song, the Kenny Logins song, which was just... Danger Zone? Yeah, it was the song of the movie, top of the charts kind of thing, but it was passed on by two other bands of that time of Toto and Arios B.
I wonder if they were recorded versions of it that aren't used and they're floating around like in the internet. That happens with the Jane Bond song a lot. That could be. And the last is something that I literally learned finally after decades of watching this movie and always trying to listen really closely to understand the word and I've never understood it, which is what Goose's position is called.
Rear. No. Real. RIO.
RIO. I always thought it was rear or real. Like rear, I was like, oh, they're in the rear, like rear view mirror kind of thing, or real, but I would hear, but it didn't make sense. And it's RIO, RIO, radio intercept officer.
And so I did not know that until this afternoon while I was preparing for this podcast. Did anybody look up or Eric, do you know what is that person? What is that job? What are you doing in that point?
Exactly what the acronym, radio intercepts, it's radio and radar. Yeah, like it's all about like where everything is around here. It's communication. It's finding the enemy planes.
It's all of that stuff. Yeah, I thought a lot of that was in the front cockpit with the pilot though. I don't know. I have no idea, obviously.
But yeah, I mean, granted in the movie, all we see those guys do is look around real quickly and say, hey, he's on your six or what's about it. Okay, great. So that was, yeah. And I'm so glad you made me feel that better that I had.
I definitely thought it was rear. I had no question that was rear for sure. Yeah. So you all learned something today, except for Eric Eric.
All right. Eric, what what tribute do you have? The, see, there's the bar that they were all hanging out at for the long time. It was an actual bar out there in California that had a lot of memorabilia from the movie on display there.
But then sometime, I think in the late nineties or early 2000s, there was a grease fire in the kitchen and the majority of the place burned down later. Yeah. Yeah. Some of the stuff I think, and I want to say, I think Chrissy Rufeder took Susan there because she lived in San Diego and Susan Bissner and they went out there.
They went to that bar and like they still had Maverick, one of Maverick's helmets on display, but it had been damaged in the fire. So like the plastic visor was warped from heat or something. Yeah. Did they play you lost that loving feeling on the two bucks?
I hope not. Are great balls of fire on the piano? Yeah. Good job.
All right. I have said for a couple of casting things before you have that. I'm sorry. Before you do that, one other thing that I saw was that Meg Ryan and Anthony Edwards actually started dating after the film.
They played, you know, obviously played a very couple on the film. And I just think it's funny when this happens is Kelly McGillis is five foot 10. Yeah. And Tom Cruise is not.
Yeah. So he had to wear like cowboy boots with a stacked heel and she couldn't wear shoes in scenes where they were face to face. Yeah. And so it's funny.
So then you think about when she walks in and she's in heels, she's six one easily as she's going up to present in front of all those guys. And then the last thing I saw, which was kind of interesting is that scene where she's like chasing after him and I'm going to finish my sentence. Tom Cruise after she like yells at him or whatever, he was supposed to say something and he forgot the line and he kisses her instead of the line and the director liked it so much that I kept it in. Right.
Right. So the height thing with Kelly McGillis is one thing that this is obviously before Cruise hit his peak or his his. His cruising is. Yeah.
The peak of his powers and Zenith or whatever. Cause that's not happening now. It would never happen after this movie because he's green lighting every female lead and any of the movies that they all got to be a certain shortness, not even hyper. It can't be above whatever number.
And he's famous for wearing lifts and everything he's doing constantly. So let me ask this question because I've heard this from a couple of people. That was not as obvious to me up until recently, I guess, of the considered age difference between Tom Cruise and Kelly McGillis. Was that like a big thing that everybody noticed and I just was completely oblivious to?
Yeah. Okay. That's all. Even seeing it in seventh grade, we're all like, oh, he's going for the older woman.
Like, yeah, that's a thing that's meant for whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It was purposeful in the script. I know. I just, I didn't really think about it. I guess.
Yeah. So I saw. But looking back at it, he's like a child in this movie. Like he is so young.
He's 24. Yeah. And she was 29. So I saw a couple of different things with casting Maverick.
I saw the names that were either turned it down or were considered and then there's a bunch of rumors and the rumors were kind of bullshit, but I'll throw them out there anyway. But I also saw something that contradicts all of this stuff, which are maybe not contradicts, but is inconsistent with these other names. The idea that the role was written for Tom Cruise. I saw that somewhere.
If that's the case, these other names make no sense then. Like, was it written for him and then he said no, and then they just had these other backups or? Well, I did see that he was pretty resistant to the role for a long time and it took basically they had they convinced him to get in a plane because they wanted, they wanted him to see what it's like because they had the actors in a lot of the planes. They just weren't in the galaxy.
They were. And it was the plane ride that got him to say yes, but for a while he was resistant. So knowing that I've got two people that supposedly turned the role down and then three people that were considered. I don't know what that means.
The first considered or not. So turn it down includes Scott Beow and Mickey Rourke Scott. Yeah. Oh my gosh.
But Scott Scott. Beow. He was career was long. Like his career was long dead by then, wasn't it?
Or he was Nick deep and Charles in charge. 86. So maybe shooting an 85 is probably even before Charles in charge, right? I don't know.
But yeah, so I saw that those guys turned it down. And then the three I saw that were considered in some way included Matthew Modine, Charlie Sheen and John Travolta. To what degree they were considered. They'll know.
I think I saw the John Travolta and he might have been too expensive. And he, well, he, I don't think he was. I think it was he was at downtime where he wasn't a factor. He wasn't a movie star.
He wasn't anything. He was really working. Maybe I'm confusing on something else that could be. And I'll give you the list of rumors.
I'm still reeling from that one list of rumors that I saw. I think they're all bullshit. Okay. Some don't even work with the timeline of their careers or ages or any.
These are nonsense. I'll throw them out anyway. So get ready to not be impressed. Okay.
Tom Hanks. For. Maverick? All this is Maverick.
So that's just the first of the stupidity. So it's great. Tom Hanks. Jim Carrey.
Was Jim Carrey even a thing? I don't think so. When was it living color? Not men.
Patrick Swayze. Rob Lowe. I can see Rob Lowe. Maybe.
Sean Penn. Emilio Estebes. Maybe. Michael J.
Fox. Right. I don't like so many of these. I'm feeling the need for speed, but you stop at 88 miles an hour.
Yeah. You're playing on takeoff. Just go in the water. Yeah.
I don't know about that. Need roads where they're going. You definitely don't need roads. Okay.
So here's one, two, three, four. Scott Baio is still got me as a. Mickey Rourke. Okay.
One, two, three, four people supposedly turned down the role of Charlie. Okay. Before it was given to me. And that was Linda Fjorentino.
Yeah, I saw that. Tada Monile. Allie Sheedy. And Brooke Shields.
I also saw Deborah Winger. I saw Deborah Winger is under my list of considered that she made out of head of chance to turn it down or not, but she was considered. She could actually work in that role too. I don't know what I love.
Any of those in there. I don't know. I love to speak with you in this role either, but whatever. Anybody see any new gap though of 29 and 24.
That's not that. But she, I guess, portrayed somebody. I was going to say I thought she looked older than 29. Okay.
I have one other. I have one other character who I saw as a potential cast. I don't know if it was considered or offered and decline. I think it was offered and decline was John Voigt for Viper.
John Voigt. I can't believe he declined it. Maybe it was a scheduling issue or something. Yeah.
He would jump. He would love to be in a military movie like that. I think he's a good guy. He's a good guy.
Okay. Let's do recast rebate. Better close the door. It's time to make us go bait.
You ready, Eric? I'm ready. Should we start the talk with Maverick? This is your game show, man.
I don't like any of my names though. Let's start with Tom Cruise Maverick. I have two people. I don't know what I like him, but I'm going to throw him out there.
One is Ty Sheridan. Okay. Who is the guy from Ready Player One. We just watched part of it yesterday.
And we'll have a run of movies. And I think my number one, the only other guy I have is Taren Egerton. Oh, he's on my list. He's my Maverick, I think.
The end of list. I don't have anybody else. So all I was thinking about when I was thinking about this character is who's going to pull off an ego that is so big. So I had Taren Egerton.
I was constrained by the age two. I was trying to shoot for 24-25. He's probably a little bit too old, but I have Dave Franco. And then number one, I thought was Michael B.
Jordan. I am somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. For me, I ended up casting this movie a little bit older than what they did originally because I know guys that young in that school is 100% bullshit. Like that school is not meant.
First of all, there's not pilots that young and second of all, pilots that young aren't going to that school. So I'm glad you said that because we are watching it. I had questions about it too. Like what?
How does that work? Yeah. So I'm still on the young side, but definitely not that young. But I had a couple of choices for Maverick.
Michael B. Jordan is pretty much my number one. And then the other name that I had was Scott Eastwood. Oh, I have him somewhere else.
Yeah, I considered him. I did. All right. I'll go first for Goose as well because I only have one name.
Okay. Just for the sake of ages, I'm going to run down the age roster of the top five characters. Tom Cruise was 24. Anthony Edwards, 24.
Kelly McGillis, 29. Tom Skaritt, 53. Val Kilmer, 27. So that's the range we're sort of figuratively shooting for.
So my goose, I didn't know where to go with this guy. And I had a hard time casting this entire movie. I don't know what my deal was, but my only guy was Miles Teller for Goose. That's it.
All right. I don't feel even good about it. Yeah, I didn't realize that at the time, but looking back on it, the casting of Top Gun Maverick has severely affected my recasting of Top Gun. I'll touch on more on that later, but yeah, I mean, Miles Teller plays Goose's son in Maverick.
So the casting of the new movie coming out is recasting the new movie. Right. All right. Oh, so Eric, did you give your goose?
I have not. I had a couple of names. One name that I threw out there because I really, I think he's definitely too old compared to even getting back to my other conversation before. But I like this actor and I would want to be, if I was casting this movie, I'd want to put him in there somewhere, Randall Park.
Who's that? He plays, he plays Agent Wu in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Like he's in WandaVision. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Oh, I like him a lot. Yeah. I want him in this movie somewhere.
Yeah. But their names that I had Ezra Miller was one name that I had. Yeah. And then I think I would go with Donald Glover.
I've got him somewhere else. We were just talking about him because the marching was on and this is the problem I always had with him when we do these recasting things. I always want to include him for these roles where the previous actor or the role is played by a 25 year old, a 26 year old, I'm like, oh, Donald Glover, that's my guy. And then I look and Donald Glover is 37 years old or whatever he is.
I'm like, oh, he's too old for it. He can certainly play younger. I mean, no problem there, but I always get caught up in the age factor with all these. Yeah.
Especially with him. So I had Ezra Miller also for Goose. I then also had Nick Robinson. What do you mean?
He was in Love Sign In. He was just in that show teacher. Oh, yeah. But the number one person I have in this role is Rylarsson.
I think you changed it up and it's a woman. Okay. That changes a lot of things. I know, but I kind of like it.
I don't think you're making this movie now. You're not going to have a zero female. You'll have one. And I like that it's going to be Maverick's Rio.
Rio. Yeah. I considered making that move. I thought it affected too many parts of the movie.
So I didn't do it. All right. I had one other like backup. Logan Lerman.
Oh, and also in. What's the Nazi hunter? The hunters or whatever it is on. Oh, yeah.
With the. Chino. Yeah. The Jew killer or the Jewish Nazi killer.
Yeah. Yeah. That show. Okay.