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Welcome to the Stripes episode of the Pope Cast, joining me or Allison, Eric, and newcomer Patrick Keene to break down another 80s classic comedy with Bill Murray and Hail Remus. Stripes is one of those movies, it's actually two separate movies combined into one, and there are obvious comparisons to another military movie that was released just six years later, Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket. This episode is chock full of our favorite scenes and quotes and features maybe our most difficult attempt at recasting a movie with today's actors. We really struggle with the recastor based section and you'll see we played a bit fast and loose with the rules with the ages of the actors, but it turned out pretty good.
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Boosh! Okay, Stripes, 1981. This no-nonsense plot is not the shortest one ever. We did Money Pit last week and that was the shortest one ever.
Ten words. This one is not a-it doesn't rank up their in brevity but does rank up their in stupidity. Two friends who are dissatisfied with their job decide to join the army for a bit of fun. We're a bit of fun.
Is that what they were doing? I don't remember. I don't remember a bit of fun. No.
They got their shit beat out of them by the army for six weeks and then went on some hair-brained mission. Alright. Let's start with Patrick with my first little question and that is, when and where did you see it? What impact did it have on you or what do you remember it having on the community?
What do you think of Stripes when it came out if you remember it? Yeah, I would have been, let's see, nine I guess. And that is I think third grade or fourth grade? Yes.
Which is way too young to see that much brass I think. It's like so much to it is. Patrick, I have the same reaction. I'm like, I don't remember this many boobs in this movie.
It's such a perfect pointless 80s gratuitous nudity movie. Yeah. Yeah. And I use that word when I wrote my note, gratuitous nudity.
Yeah. It was fun. Yeah. So this was a script written by a couple of other guys, but I think then punched up by Hill Remus, which he is wanting to do.
Oh, I'm sorry. Patrick, I just touched you off. No, no, no, no, no, I just remember it being so silly and perfect. Like that and meatballs were like really, really free rein for Bill Murray and just, you know, how much of a script they had to go off.
No, that was one of the things I saw and noted here and there was that they definitely obviously had a script and they went on the script. But a majority of what Bill Murray was doing was he had the opportunity to improv and it was clear. I mean, he went off script a lot throughout the movie. And I think it shows and that's why he's fucking Bill Murray.
Yeah. I want to say I was maybe in high school when I eventually saw it. Like I didn't, I don't think I was in, I even saw it in middle school. Like I don't know if it hit my radar because it would have been kind of in like this lull period of like it would have been an older movie by the time I would have been older.
I think I saw it in junior high and my reference point and it's perfect that we have Patrick on here for this. We were talking about our pop Warner football and one of the things his team, the 49ers, just to do in their warm up. So all the stupid teams do and get in line as you do whatever sort of calisthenics things hitting your helmets and your pads and you know, jumping down push ups, whatever. One of the things your team did Patrick was you would somebody would yell razzle dazzle and you got to take your pads and come up in some sort of routine.
We're like, whoa, they have their shit together. How they do that? That's from stripes. I can't like that blew us away.
We're like, oh, we're not prepared for this game. I was going to be that or boom shot a lot. You're doing a for you're going into formation and you go boom, check a lot of boom, check a lot of boom. Yeah.
I had that done that. We would have walked off the field. Forget it. Yeah.
That was fantastic. All right. Patrick, that was a missed opportunity. Oh, no.
Yeah, that was the 49. Didn't we play in preseason then again during the regular season, Brendan? That sounds about right. And I think you kicked our teeth in both times.
Yeah. So we talked about the gratuitous nudie and this is so these scripts are written by other guys, I believe, and then Harold Ramis came into the end and sort of tweaked it to make it what it was as we saw in a bill. Harold Ramis and scripts, early Harold Ramis scripts. We did Ghostbusters a while back and then I think he was involved in Meatballs, too, if I remember.
Early Harold Ramis scripts. I'm not sure if this holds up in his late stuff, but there's absolutely, and it shows in this movie, especially when you have the Ghostbusters in the back of your mind, free of us, do it for sure. There's absolutely zero effort in developing female characters. Oh, no.
You haven't even tried to write dialogue. No, correct. It's like it kind of is like shopping. It's amazing.
Like why? Why? Maybe no, why? I had written a similar note kind of rewatching.
I'm like, the women in this movie are ancillary kind of things and I'm using word things intentionally because it's not treated in a dignified way at all. No, no. Transition from their downtown getting in trouble to, oh, we're just going to watch the general's house. Right.
Right. We just become these sex background characters for you. Yes, but also like the John Larroquette scene of him looking the shower. Zero point to that other than the show.
But apparently that him, all of his dialogue there was totally improvised. He was making it up as he goes the loofah. Perfect. That dude is super underrated.
Not just in this movie in general. Yeah. Okay. This is, there are a few well-known movies out there like this, but this is one that is obvious.
This is two completely separate movies. The first movie is about the two losers go to boot camp and they're in boot camp for the whole time. It's an hour and 14 minutes of boot camp. And then the last, you know, the mission of Italy and all the, all the real stuff that happens is the last 30 minutes of the movie.
The last time I remember the biggest example of this kind of to me is good fellas. The first, you know, hour 40 of the movie or whatever it is, 75% of the movie is a different movie than the last 20 minutes. You know, him being on drugs in the 80s and the cocaine and the black helicopters, that whole manic thing is a completely different movie than the rest of it fellas. In a good way it has to be.
Right. It's crazy. It's like another example of that and it's weird how much it almost actually kind of mirrors the two stories mirror each other and it actually predates the other movie is full metal jacket. Yeah.
It's like basic training is completely separate movie and then they go to Vietnam and it's like a completely separate story. Right. Well, watching, at one point, watching John Candy run through the obstacle course in the mud and the rain and stuff. And rut go off course.
Of course. Of course. Yes. When they have like a rain ponchos on and like he's going through, I was like waiting for the scene where it's in slow motion and they're picking him up and he's coming out of the rain and dragging him.
I'm like, no, that's in full metal jacket. That was private pile with private joker picking him up. Oh my God. Those scenes are almost interchangeable.
Yeah. It's partially the same movie. Yeah. Yeah.
When did that movie come out? 87. I think. So full metal jacket stole footage from.
Just kidding. Go over it. Go over it. The other way around you would have been like, okay, stripes is parroting for metal jacket, but I like that it's the other way around.
Fucking two bridges biting off the corner. Right. Well, have you ever, do you remember from dust till dawn at all? That that was weirdly kind of too separate.
They're on the road in Texas and they go to Mexico and then they come across it all night bar where vampires. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
It's kind of, it's a strange little movie, but it was 80s and a lot of these movies were kind of have asked. So Eric, as the only person on this podcast that was actually in the army, what do you think of what you saw in this movie? Oh my God. I didn't even, I didn't even why I watched the movie.
It's like I lived it. Tell me, tell us more. What do you mean? Oh my God.
I, of course, I've been completely sarcastic. Nothing. Nothing about that movie is remotely even close to anything resembling. What it's like being in the military.
Yeah. Other than there's one scene where they're, when they're walking in a line picking up trash. Yeah. Or, you know, doing push up like that.
Otherwise none of it is even close. Nobody's making wise cracks in the sergeant. No. The company commander does not have a live grenade.
So they get his best. Yeah. When he orders the guys to fire the weapon, no coordinates just fire well. Yeah.
Shoot this water, son. What we don't know where it's going. I love that that was Timothy Clustfield by the way. Yeah.
God almighty. So I had a question watching this. Again, we can't, I can't at least put too much stock in the reality of this as we were talking about the script is whatever. So when they go in the beginning, when they go between when John winger goes to enlist in the army and his buddy drives him, they're sitting in the car.
He turns to Russell and says we come in and is that right then like Russell decides, oh, I'm joining the army too. Like, had he not said come in, he would just sat in the car and then not join? I think that's the takeaway, which is mind-voggling. So he has some sort of a life outside of that car.
He has an apartment. He has whatever. And he's just like, okay, I'm going to go out and list today and we're gone. I don't know.
Yeah. If he wasn't struggling like winger was. Right. So why is he joining?
He had a good career as an English teacher. Yeah. Right. He was on a way to becoming a professor, I'm sure.
Yeah. That was confusing to me. And then one of maybe the most, arguably the most memorable thing from this movie is the theme song. I think.
Oh, yeah. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, like that whole thing. Fantastic. I constantly.
I whistle it with the movie for sure. It's in the back of my mind more often than it should be. Well, we used to say. What?
When you're not watching the movie, I mean, I mean, previous to today. Wow. Wow. Patrick, what?
We used to say coming home from football games on the bus, we would sing the doo I did. He saw. It was clearly from that. Oh my God.
Where is. And I wrote down one little note with no details, but simply saying that Sergeant Hulka, the actor Warren Oates is great in this movie. Yeah. He's fantastic.
Yeah. I didn't go through his IMDb, but he is, you know, he was a talented, well-known actor previously and did a lot of sort of, I think like John Wayne type parts or gangster type parts, tough guys. And he's got a little bit of that in this movie. He's got a little gravitas to him.
I saw something that was sort of in trivia, but just kind of reacting to what you just said. So in the scene when they're all kind of sitting around, like the first night or two that they had enlisted and they're telling their stories, he is laughing and smiling during those conversations. And they're, he's not supposed to be doing that, but because the actors were cracking him up, like he couldn't get his laughing under control at all. And so they tried to edit around it, but they couldn't quite do it.
And they tried doing retakes and he couldn't keep a straight face. But it finally, like he got it under control when it came to the Bill Murray scene. But I remember catching that kind of early on. I'm like, how do you supposed to be a badass?
Like why is he kind of laughing at these smiling and laughing at these stories? And then turns out it was an error. He and Bill Murray, I got along well. I think he was just amused by him.
Okay, box office for 1981. I don't think we've done this year before. So this is a good one. Get ready.
This is, this is, oh, we did, I can see the third movie. We definitely did this one of course. Number one, Superman two with a hundred and a million. Number two, stripes, 85 million.
Wow. Wow. Had a budget of 10 million to make 85. That's a fucking blockbuster.
That is number three, Cannonball Run. Cool. I know Patrick, you listened to a number of these episodes. I don't know if you've heard the Cannonball episode.
It is a shit show from start to finish. Oh, I haven't heard that one. Damn it. It's so hilarious.
It's kind of a problem. It's really out of control. Okay. It's just because what recasting or what?
We did it on the road. We did it in person, which is fine with a couple of our friends. And then we had a few people in the audience who were just, they were going to be on the episode, but they didn't watch it. So they just were sitting around.
And the peanut gallery was just, they wouldn't stop talking. And then another guy came in and so the audience was larger and it just kind of spiraled out of control and the drinks were flowing. If you want to hear me get angry inside my head, that's a good one. It was great.
It was very funny. It was very funny. There's one in particular. I'm not going to ruin it for you.
That is spectacularly funny. Yeah. There's one recasting suggestion that will knock you on your ass. It's so great.
I love it. I will definitely have a listen to me. Okay. So the Cannonball Run number three.
All right. Number four for your eyes only. By the way, I do like the Cannonball Run derails every conversation. It does.
Just because that pop is so bad. Listen. You have something that traumatic in your life that has to. Number four for your eyes only.
54 million. Number five, the four seasons. 15 million. Six, Excalibur, 34.
Number seven, history of the world, part one, 31 million. Number eight, bust and loose. Number 31. Or 31 million.
I don't know what that is. The Great Muppet Capre comes in at number nine. Hell yeah. And list love number 10 with 31.
So stripes. Number two for the year and a massive, massive hit. I remember it was on the cover of time or news week. I'm surprised it did that well at the box office.
Yeah. And this was before Ghostbusters, but after Meatballs. Right. Yeah.
This was when K-Shack come out. I believe K-Shack, yeah. It was the year before. Yeah.
So K-Shack sort of cut it off to the middle. He's a super small role. He was coming off of SNL though. Bill Murray.
But wasn't, I mean, K-Shack was a pretty big movie though too. It is interesting that Vietnam joke he makes when he's at the bus station. You're like, isn't it way too soon? Yeah.
Yeah. At that time Vietnam officially is over for six years, but really kind of sevens the troops were back. But my God. He makes a Vietnam joke there and he says, you know, we've been kicking ass for 200 years, you know, we're 10 and one.
We're 10 and one. And you know what one is. Right. I don't know.
Prepare for this. I read something about how Harold Ramis like deliberately puts that into a lot of his scripts, like some sort of commentary about Vietnam. Yeah. That sounds right.
Okay. Rotten Tomatoes. What do we think Stripes scored with the audience on Rotten Tomatoes, Allison? This came in number two.
This is the audience. Yeah. I'm going to say 89. 89 Eric.
I'm not going to go that high critics. No, this is audience. Oh, this is audience. Yeah.
Audience. I'll say 80. Eric. Yeah.
I mean, if it's at the time, I would say it's a lot higher, but Rotten Tomatoes is recent. So I got it. I got to say, I'm going to say as low as like 75. The audience score was 79%.
Wow. So Eric was right upon it. And I had to write that too. I was like, you're way off man.
I get confused by the whole, like where it went to the box office. Like it had to have gotten a lot of people to go. Audience is always off. I think the critics are a little more close.
So the critics then, the critics were run to me. Tomatoes. Tomatoes. I like Tomatoes.
I had a bowl in this morning. The critics score Allison. I'm going to say 68. 68.
Eric. 60. And Patrick. Oh, God, you guys got.
Wow. I'll just, I'll go. Oh, man. I'm right there with you.
I'll say, sorry, 65. Does that mean? Right. He kind of prices right at both of you.
Awesome. The critics gave stripes and 88. Shut up. Wow.
Critics liked it 9% more than the audience. That's unreal. That's kind of, that is a different time. So I did see something and it was an IMDB and it made my brain hurt, but it was something like, it made the 2000 list of the top 500 of the 100 best comedy.
I'm like, what the hell does that mean? I saw that. That's like saying 60% it works every time. What does that mean?
I saw that too. I think what they were saying is it was nominated for the top one top 500 funniest list. Yeah, but then there was 100 list. Yeah.
500 movies to that they were going to submit to wheel down to the 100 funniest list. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That is the word of the first time I've ever heard. It's the best time to be.
So it's like, I guess it's all the nominees of, like, that's picture. It's but okay. It's not going to be financiers. What I'm sorry.
Okay. Stripes. This is the trivia part. Stripes was released six months after Ronald Reagan's inauguration.
I don't know why that matters, but that was, I saw it in multiple places as a big deal. What? Good, great. It was originally a vehicle for Cheech and Chong.
It was written for Cheech and Chong. The reason this fell through is because their manager insisted without their knowledge. but he insisted that they get a 25% share of item right men's next five films as well. He's like, yes.
What? I bet they were smoking something. So the script was then rewritten for Bill Murray and Hail Rammus. And most of the stoner humor was shifted to the Elmo character played by John Trinehold.
And the new script was pitched as Animal House joins the army, which is exactly what it is. Essentially. Yeah, she's in John. I have no idea.
Yeah. I don't know. It makes sense when you think about it. Right.
I mean, she's in Chong, join the army. Right. And you definitely have two characters whose lives are a mess, not just wingers. Exactly.
Right. Yeah. That's when they both, yeah, they ditch the car in the old and list. Bill Murray and PJ Sol's the MP that he went with.
Was supposed to do two weeks of boot camp and it lasted three days. Two years, point. Yeah. It's kind of insane.
Were they in the beginning? Were they in Chicago or New York? I think New York. Yeah.
It's funny you bring that up because don't they make a joke about Chicago later on? Yeah. When they meet at the Russian, they meet the right or the Soviet at the gate at the border. Yeah.
Bill Murray pulls a gun on him. He's like, Chicago like the mob reference. Yeah. PJ Sol's who plays the role of Stella also played private Wanda Winter the year before in private Benjamin.
All right. And actually wore the same uniform in both films. Wow. That's how they made that movie for $10 million.
And now we've had two PJ Sol's piece of trivia. I didn't know if I did that. Uh, Shocker of the day, Bill Murray and Sean Young did not get along. Yeah.
Uh, young didn't like Murray's method of ad-libbing. Uh, and Murray vowed to never work with her again. Nice. I think we kept that up.
Yeah. He didn't necessarily probably didn't really have to try that hard. So that either. Unfortunately for her, she, that's probably just, you know, one more name on a very long list.
Yeah. I don't, I think Murray's a little demanding and he's a little tough to work with. Um, the EM50, Urban Assault Vehicle, was a 1976 GMC 26 foot long Palm Beach motor home. Wow.
Uh, run out and get one. Sure. They're reasonably crazy. Um, Eric, you'll appreciate this.
The army recruitment, uh, went up 10% after this. Oh my God. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. The movie attracted the, uh, criminal crumb. Yeah. Yeah.
How about the haircut? I mean, like conveniently, conveniently leave some of the guys with regular haircuts. Right. John Candies was kind of close to what it actually is like everybody else was a joke, especially, especially Harold Remus.
Right. And the guys got to keep their haircuts because they were the bigger stars. Right. Everybody else.
Uh, Ivan Reichmann did not tell the actors that real army barbers were going to give them real haircuts. Uh, I think specifically talking about John Candy and a couple of guys with the crew cuts. Uh, so when they said that Jackie was genuinely depressed. Yeah.
Yeah. Uh, crew cut doesn't work on Candy. No. No, that hairline is ridiculously funny though.
That little peak is insane. Yeah. It's good. Anytime you can expose a widow peak.
I'm all for it. Come on. That's great. Uh, let's see.
Okay. Okay. That the Czechoslovakia scenes were filmed at the Jim Beam-owned Chappissi Chappissi distillery in Claremont, Kentucky. That's right.
Uh, Remus. Harold Remus said that the third act was set in that country in Czechoslovakia, uh, Natalie Czechoslovak, because Reichmann's family were Czech refugees. Oh. They all, they all, they all.
I don't say just in general. I was a little surprised that they're the bad guys in this, the quote unquote bad guys in this movie. I mean, they are part of the CCCP. Right?
I know. I mean, I guess it's sort of like they're the dopey outliers of that regime or whatever. I mean, they're trying to drive from Italy to Germany and they even long turned. So I know, but it was just, I kind of forgot that part.
I'm like, that's weird. I always, going into the movie, I thought it was the Russians. I mean, it's happy to be kind of is. Right.
Yeah. Uh, please mute your phone. How dare you? It was me.
I don't like that. I love that those two, uh, those two guys at the blockade still have their jobs after they let them. Yes. And other guys in, they're not like stationed somewhere else.
They just have coffee now. Nope. Uh, okay. We'll get there in a minute.
Only, only John Candy and the guy who played Psycho knew the lyrics to do oddity. They had to teach everybody else before the movie, or the movie. I mean, it definitely goes deeper into the song than the average person probably know. So if it goes one word beyond do oddity, then yeah.
After the first line or two, I'm out. Yeah. Um, the character nicknamed Psycho is actually named Francis. We all know that Francis is Norman Bates's middle name in Psycho.
Oh, I like that. I like that a lot. How do we not see that guy in more movies? I know.
He's a perfect character actor guy. And what happened to him? Uh, Sergeant Hoka Warren Oates died a year after this movie came out. I saw that.
Yeah. I didn't see what it was. That's young too. Cause I, when we were, when you were, uh, sent the list for the, uh, recastor, baby gave his age a sec.
He was early 50s. Right. Fifty more. Oh my gosh.
Wow. The last sentence, the platoon shouts during the performance of graduation. The quick brown box jumps over the lazy dog is a sentence that was popularly used to test typewriters and telegraph machines because it contains every letter of the alphabet, at least once. Yes.
Wow. I don't know why I found that so fascinating. But I didn't. So you've never heard of that?
No. Oh my God. How would I hear that? In like, if you took it like a keyboard in class or anything like that, that would be a sentence that she would be.
Really? Yeah. Do type it because it makes a test every, every letter, every letter, every letter. Uh, okay.
Finally, uh, near the end of the film, an image of an army newspaper indicates that Captain Stillman was transferred to the Arctic command. And that's mentioned earlier in the film too. If you don't accomplish this, we're going to send you to an arctic. This is later referenced in an episode of Night Court in which Dan Fielding, played by John Larricut, reveals he is a Captain of the US Army Reserve and by the end of the episode, his commanding officers ordered, uh, ordered, uh, officers, ordered him to be transferred for duty in the Arctic Circle.
So his role in Night Court, the little Easter egg for, uh, his role in strikes. Larricut twice. Nice. And that is more tribute about Larricut than the perspective.
Um, anybody else have any tidbits? They want to throw in? I've got a couple of casting things. But other than that.
I don't, I wish I know this is a casting thing, but, uh, I think Frank Oz would have been great for the screening. Marine. He's asking those questions. Of course.
That was a good question. Yeah. We can all go for more Frank Oz. Agreed.
Yeah. Uh, okay. A couple of quick casting issues. Kim Basinger was offered the part of one of the MP women, uh, but was turned down because her agent asked for too much money.
Great. Dennis Quaid read for the role of Russell. He was actually PJ Sol's husband of the time. Oh, yeah.
And he, you can see him in the background of one of the scenes, um, it's like a random, uh, uh, recruit or something. Oh, interesting. Okay. Uh, John Winger, uh, people who were considered for this role, it's kind of the obvious bunch given this crew, uh, Chevy Chase and John Belushi, right?
Okay. Um, Russell Ziske, Dan Eckroyd was considered. So they almost did the whole response. Right.
Right. Interesting. Yeah. All right.
They've got like a little crew of kind of their regular, well, I mean, with Ivan Reitman and Camarilla, so we're going to get a little nervous. There you go. Uh, it's time for recasting debate. It is recast debate.
Whoo. Better close the door. It's time to be consturbate. All right, boys and girls.
This is very difficult. Um, we have, I'm saying we have four main people to talk about. And that is John Winger, Russell Ziske, Dewey, Ox, Oxberger and Sergeant Hulka. Anything beyond that to me is a bonus.
Uh, you can do Captain Stillman, you can do Louise and Stella, the two MPs. I always struggle with that. But otherwise we could just do the top four and then move on. We'll see.
Oh, I did also. I had a special bonus. Um, let's start with John Winger played by Bill Murray. Okay.
Um, I had difficulty with all of these and I'm breaking, I think all of my age issues with everything. So, yeah, this was hard. Yeah. Um, so I have three.
I don't like really, I don't like two of them. One of them is okay. Uh, I go with my third choice, Michael Pena. I looked him up.
He's 45 years old. Everyone, everyone is old. As a new recruit. Every.
Right. So, all right. In this movie, Bill Murray is 31. Harold Ramis is 37.
They do address it a little bit in the movie saying like guys are age. Totally. Right. What is the oldest you can enlist?
Oh, is there an age? Um, it's somewhere, it's somewhere between 30 and 35. I can't remember exactly where it is. Yeah.
I have a problem with Bill Murray for sure. They would have led in Harold Ramis. I don't think they would have led him in the list. I knew guys, I knew people that enlisted when they were in their 30s.
Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah.
So I said, everybody I looked up is older than I thought they were. And this because I am older and I believe we are still living in 2005, apparently where everybody's in the 30s. So I said Michael Pena, I didn't like it. I said Max Greenfield from New Girl.
Yes. Maybe doing a John Linger. The one I like the most, he's way too old, but I'm sticking with it and it's Bill Hader. Oh, I thought of him.
He is definitely in the 40s. Oh, definitely. I won't say my turn now, but he's also old. Alison, John Linger.
I don't like any of mine. That's a theme of our show today. I don't like what I did. So, okay.
Tony Revolori who plays zero in Grand Budapest. Okay. I've got Ben Platt who is the main guy in the politician. And he's also in like pitch perfect and stuff like that.
I guess my least hated on the list is too old, but it's Jack Johnson. Oh, yeah. Yeah. From New Girl.
From New Girl. Yeah. Very often we're just recasting the new girl cast. Let's go.
I could superman the world backwards. I would be casting Ryan Reynolds in this. Right. That's what I did with Joe Spencer.
And I said, I wanted to time machine. Yeah. Let's go to Patrick. Give us your John Winger.
John Winger. I was thinking either, you want old, I'm going to go old. I was thinking either like Jack Black or Paul Rudd. Yeah.
Well, he's internally young. He can still go it off. Good point. Or I was going to go, do you know Michael Costa from the Daily Show?
Oh, yeah. He's a smart ass. He's hilarious. I like that one.
Yeah. I do like that one. I consider Jack Black for ox. Yeah.
Yeah. A hundred years old. Yeah. All right.
I like that. I like that. I like that. Well, I like that.
I like that. Eric, give us a give us a winger. I absolutely struggle on this, I came up with one name. He's too old, but he can still, I think it still kind of works.
Andy Samberg. Ah, yes. Yes. Well, one person, I didn't put down.
I'm going to say it because I don't think it'll come up again, hopefully Jason stickeths but. Oh, yeah. I thought I wanted to do a guy to old. He's 50 something.
I mean, honestly, if, if we were casting this movie 15 years ago, I would have been set, and he echoes under the age of 37. Chris Pratt from like Parks and Rec doing it would have been perfect. Other guy from Parks and Rec too. He was in, I forget.
Let's move on. Russell Zisky. We've got a little more age options here because he's older. Lip.
All right, now. Since you're laughing, let's go with Allison first. Oh my god. I've got three names written down.
And they're all awesome. They are terrible. So I've got Nolan Gould, who plays the sun in Modern Family. OK.