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Oct 5, 2015 1 hr 48 min

PunkOff Podcast ep_10

from PunkOff Podcast Hosted by Dan Destroyer/Chris Crude

POP Episode #10 We talk with local musician Chris Spradlin about playing music, comic books, Italian horror and past Findlay punk shows. Special guest: Jason

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You want to go to war? You got a war? You started it? We gonna finish it.

She wouldn't give it to me. Just one cup of shit, bitch. So anyway, hashtag. Funko podcast number 10.

Funko podcast number 10. Yes, right here? Chris crude. We will be having a guest today, we'll be running all the way.

So I want to go over a couple things really quick. First of all, I want to thank all the responses we've been getting from people that have been rather impressed. And I want to just personally thank you all. So I'm coming to every one of your houses to shake your a heads.

I'm just going to come to all your houses and shake my dick. In, difficult risk group form. You know, like, what you do when you get out of the shower and you're chasing your wife around and you're just sitting there shaking your hips and making it, like, that's slapping noise. Yeah, I remember that years and years ago.

I remember that yesterday. Yeah, well, well, that's, I mean, all your houses, something right longer, something like that. So, what's going on? Thanks for everyone that's been spreading the word.

Check it out. We appreciate it. We'd probably still be going in if we were to the only two more on listening to it at this point, but Bill's thinking we said you're talking about wrestling. But, it's cool.

I appreciate it. Indeed. All right. So, if I think I finalized, I think I hinted at it at the last episode, we are going to do Halloween Special.

Halloween Special is the, I can't know what some really dumb names are. I can't think of it. They tell them how we would expect them. That might be it now.

Um, and it was like the whole, the punk off podcast movie horror trivia spectacular or some shit. Yeah, basically we're going to do like a Dunglove's movie style of a trivia show. So we're having three guests come back on and I want to make sure that all of them wanted to come back on before I really announced it. Andrew's coming back.

The people's champion. I dumped him to people's champion because at least I've looked at the numbers again very recently, but they're for a long time and probably didn't hurt yet two episodes. But his was the most popular within a short amount of download time. So apparently everyone wants to hear stories about someone who did you trace as a strip look.

Or you do. Or you do. So, so there's that. So either that or because I don't know we might have, I got interested in the longer we got into it.

So the more alcohol was consumed. Badly about nonsense. So Andrew's coming back. Sam Ponce is coming back.

Alright, and Paul P is going back. We're actually going to get Paul P his own on a last name because I think we're going to end up making him the unofficial official punk off podcast movie critic. Kind of John Lovitz where the character of the critic and everything. It's thanks.

It's thanks. That's what it kind of falls down. So Paul's coming up with an alias for his last name. So we'll have him back on his phone.

But I figured the three of them would be really good for this type of format. So first we're going to do what Doug Bunch calls last man's stand, which is we pick an actor and everyone keeps going, naming a movie they were in until that person runs out movies and under out. And then of course we're going to do the letter molten game with the horror theme to it. So that'll be coming up for our Halloween episode.

That'll be getting done. So we also have a new logo that will probably be popping up in the next time when this episode gets loaded. Yeah, probably be at the time we need that new host, which show when we do the new host and we upload all the new pretty shiny pictures and everything. Not a probably new logo by Sean Chock.

Hey, that's so unprofessional. That's so unprofessional. I don't get no love. But yeah, no buy my buddy Sean Chock.

Looks pretty awesome. We'll be probably going to some stickers for him and those out as we see people a long way. So that's going on. And yeah, as you would mention, I'm about 95% sure we're probably going to be on a plot B.

Because after looking at all the other providers, it just made the most sense for the money. So I'm going to have to be showing out money that I at least want something that's going to work for us pretty well. Also, by now you've heard it, we have a new upro. I kind of felt like we needed something to just carry and bumper the way out when we got on the podcast.

So the big way is that I didn't need that records. And I'm like, hey, we need a song. And they're like, hey, choose anyone you like. We don't care.

So after going through, I decided that my buddy's welfare soldiers are song and a whiskey nap time. It would be a good fit. So we may switch them around down the road before right now. So we can hear music on the way out.

Welfare soldiers, whiskey nap time. I'm going to edit that records. Please buy CDs from them. It helps us out as well.

So advertising and religionizing. I guess last thing I want to talk about real quick, we'll get some quick wrestling stuff in. Because I'm not sure how fan-sproutling is wrestling and we'll probably get in a little bit. Yeah, you and I talked about this a little bit.

The whole divas thing is coming out. It's pretty strong as far as the two teams of the bellas and... Oh, man, I just grabbed a ring. You remember the other chick is on the bellas team now?

Didn't she used to be the dancer for the big funky... Yes, for the focus horse. Yes, son of... That's right.

Yeah, her. And then Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch and Paige. Of course. But you and I were also talking about where most of press by Charlotte using her dad signature figure four and then turning it into the figure eight.

Yeah, I've already started having you route a fan of secrets today. Actually, no joke. That looks like that fucking hurts. I mean, this is cool.

I guess you can do the better recreate. There you go. Well, you know, they don't have the secret. What's that?

You know how to reverse a figure four. You know, you just roll over. How do you reverse a figure eight? And eight is endless and eight is infinite.

Exactly. It becomes a loop. And even if you roll over, you're still stuck because it's infinite. Yes.

That's got to be about the best finishing move because nobody's ever had infinite move before. Is this true? So, yeah, I thought... I'm just talking about how fast I figured it was actually a very interesting pairing for a change.

You can't make a pair of doing this indeed. But I just mean they seem to just randomly throw people together a lot on WWE or make stuff. Boobs! That was the most hilarious thing because Raw was on and I was watching it and actually went out.

And the kids should have done something else that was going on. And I thought, oh my God, are you kidding me? Dude, if I know a demographic they're going for with this, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm like, they're shameless about it. What did your wife turn into the nanny?

He's your friend, right? You got that voice. You're not doing a very flat impression. I've only got about one feminine kind of voice.

That's feminine voice. That's close to the second. So, friend, dress your back and your spine technique is pretty hot. I don't know about the nanny that you've had.

You've had a lot of ladies early nineties dresses. She was my wife, at least. I'm not that funny. Last thing, if you don't have to go to the old-timey wrestling, I need to get on their website.

I've still got that newspaper you gave me at home, but it looks pretty fascinating. Which I still find a little, it is a little bit of an odd thing that old-timey wrestling has a website. But the wife was reading in, she's actually like, I'm not going to do a impersonation. This type of vibe is bad.

So, actually she's like, this is kind of cool. I actually went and I go to this. I'm like, all right, well then we're going and I'm going to the area. So, that's why I was like, I really just want to sit in the audience and yell, HOGWASH!

All the time, so. Tom Foolery. Actually, what was that? It was science that it was- Huzzah!

Huzzah, yeah. It was Huzzah, Hoggwash, and there was one other. I don't remember. I don't think it was Tom Foolery, though.

You can start that. I think I'm an exciting fan. I think I'm a crowd fan. There'll be the two-person side.

You can hold one side to Tom and I can hold the one that says Foolery. As long as they're standing on the correct side or anything, they're like, what is Foolery Tom? I don't. Are they Morons?

Yes. Okay. Well, that sometimes, yes. At this point, I guess we'll go ahead and stop it.

At all. No. You were listening to the cast and we crossed your soul. No.

Alright, we're rolling. We got our guest. Again? Yes, again.

We did our intro to our intro. So now we've got, I guess we've got surprise guests who came right along. Would you like to introduce them since it's kind of from your, your side of the- That's the Jason, uh, Gabriel, Longdick, you know, whatever. That Longdick's the best one.

And then Chris Bradovis with us now. Uh, Chris, what we met? TD 47, you know. Uh, really terrible job, but a great career experience.

You get to guess it was. Uh, Chris and I kind of once we discovered, you were starting to kind of discover other music at that point. And I don't know, you're kind of like, hey, that weird dude over there. I think he might want to say that.

Yeah, you and I would use it because we got working at the TV station, you would get these odd weird breaks. Cause usually we do the news and then we're doing, they'd be like, we're doing stories and bumpers afterwards. We need two people staying over and they seem pretty randomly when they chose them. Like, usually you and I would go out and just cruise around or walk around or do something, just get out of the building for a while.

Cause, uh, yeah, there was a lot of yelling as far as the boss, boss and other things. Insane. Yeah. So Chris and I kind of knew each other from then and then I kind of disappeared for a while.

And then I'm trying to think, was it, through Doug Anderson we kind of ran into one another again? Yeah. Yeah. So Chris was playing shows.

Chris does a really interesting, I have to put this, covers. He's not, I wouldn't put it as a typical cover made like if you feel free bird at it, he's going to give you a finger. But he'll do a lot of songs where you're sitting there going to be like, I know that song. Is that Floyd?

That's not like Floyd. I've heard of it. That's kind of cool. So that's usually kind of Chris's shows a lot of times.

So, um, you've actually got some stuff on, I know you've got a few on the internet. You've got YouTube, don't you? Yeah. You've got some stuff on that.

So I remember watching a few things. And then on, uh, 419, uh, video, there's, uh, you do a cover up, uh, a pair of, uh, poorly. Poorly, I might get it. I know it right away, but that was me.

So, that's one of my favorite songs from that era, like the pre-punk movement. Yeah. That show was an interesting show. My wife and I were first like, yeah, you have a few drinkers in the crowd that night.

And a lot of people sit in seats until you start playing the blues. And Judy and I, you just sit on anyone that goes to Chris's shows or anything. But there are some white people in Finlay who, uh, have the more they drink, the better dancers they think they are. So there was one woman who, I don't remember what blues was, but you launched into it.

And she like rocketed out onto the floor. And then this, this move, my wife and I call, push it down the floor. Which I, anybody listening to this thing can appreciate this, but it was kind of this whole knee thing and just almost enhancing down, doing circles around the floor. Yeah, that's exactly.

Exactly. Black, white. You know what I'm saying? So yes, we have all iconed out forever, have pushing down the floor.

It's gonna be alright. It's alright. It's alright. So yeah, we actually kind of started talking about a few things before we started recording and we're gonna have to try and see if we can recasture that.

But, uh, I'll go ahead and let you kind of watch what you were telling me before about what you've been doing recently. I was trying to do some original music. Let me preface this with the Finley scene as it used to be is no longer. Yeah.

Which I'm sure it's that way everywhere now. There's not many places that employ musicians to do any sort of work. It's just a handful. We have to play the stuff everybody wants to do.

Hang the DJ. Yeah, same man. Never thought I'd hear a morcy. You're gonna come out of your mouth usually it's big.

Sorry. Well, that's the thing. I want to bring music that people haven't necessarily noticed before because it's out there. I fucked her.

Yeah. So, and I do search around for a lot of different new things when you're talking about 47. It shot me back. And I remember thinking he looks like the dude from the Sonic Youth video.

I bet he knows cool music. Yeah, that time I really kind of had the whole person more thing and wardrobe going. So yeah, that's fair. But it's, you know, the scene's dominated by the pop radio airway.

If it's not, now you don't even hear much rock anymore. It's pretty much country and, well, your 80s hair metal stuff. Yes. I like to call it pop music with electric slide in the background.

You know, the country doesn't even sound like country music. The same amount of pop radio with the country and slide guitar behind it. Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate to say this, but all those 80s hair metal guys just moved over into the country.

Yeah. Yeah. We got it here. And it got a real.

Yeah. George, the roof. I mean, if it wasn't for a seven hex, then it could have been an alternative song. I mean, like the chorus itself, you know.

And then that kind of moved the rock into the hands of the folkies again, where, you know, well, we got to compete with countries. So let's push this folks out. And that's the machine moves. Yeah.

So, damn you need to go back. Yeah. So you were also talking about, because someone's got a lot on this podcast is movies. You are, at least to me, because you know more about the 90s.

I know a little bit about it. You know a lot about that horror, especially. Tell me more. Tell me more.

Tell me more. Tell me more. Tell me more. Tell me more.

Tell you. Tell you. You got to wear. Yeah.

Yeah. I've enjoyed them since I was pretty young. I think the first time I remember being grabbed by Italian horror films was the box for Mario and Bay of blood. Okay.

I wasn't old enough to get it. My parents saw that box. Fuck you kid. You know, there's a guy's head.

He has a guy's head underwater and a fucking machete in it. Yeah, I don't think they liked that. Because I'd wait until I was 14 or 15 to really be able to see any of these video stores. And I just made it my goal to see as many of them as I can and find out as much as I can about these.

Because they're not very stylistic and not like American films. They're really different. And it reminds me a lot of when I lived in Europe. He's talking about commercializing music before things like that.

Like, you know, I'd most video stores now are corporate owners. It's not like it was bad. Yeah. I had VCR, VCRs, you know, before DVD when it was like a weird guy that just had a lot of movies and they had like this rap with stuff you've never heard of before.

Like now you go to a video store now and there's just everything that's mass far. You can't even ask for Cara Sawa anymore. People are like, no, what? You know, is there a shame or anything?

Yeah, yeah. So she's done this for you. Some of them I ran it from Netflix and then did it. I'm not quite sure exactly what the copyright laws are.

But since I am only keeping for personal use in that distributing, I think it's safe to say that you know I've kind of acquired some of them for the home library. Yeah. So they're great films. To me, they showed what I think people really, when it breaks down to it, people aren't very nice and good.

You know, people are fucking mean and rotten and will step on you if they can. But these, the nihilistic side of life, what these movies really kind of showed. People are truly shitty and you know, they sometimes they are. They say fucking Disney.

Like, I'm sorry, I don't know how familiar I was with this. Are you familiar with the band, Electric Wizard at all? Yes. Because that seems to be a lot of where they've been pulling their inspiration from, especially the last couple of hours.

So Disney? Yes, Disney. Well, didn't you say that? Did you hear Electric Wizard's Aladdin?

Now, they pulled from town horror and they've kind of seen, because there are a lot of fans now, that try and sync up songs to montages of movies from. Because that is also how I ended up becoming more and more familiar with it as years ago. I always know about that a little bit, but never to extend. But once I start this in a band, I'm like, why don't you check this out a little bit more.

So, but yeah, they're, well, sounds like the old videos for Skinny Puppy. Yes. You know, they used the Italian horror stuff, not just. Yeah.

But they used a lot of the images for them. A lot of the Dari Argento that you were talking about. And that's really the first one I actually saw was the Spirit, which is probably the best. One of the best.

One of the best. It should. It might not be one of the best, but it's one of the most famous overseas and around the good old Midwest, Ohio. The belly of the beast.

Right. So yeah, I really enjoy the Italian horror. I try to find out as much as I could. And then I open that up to a white Roy.

It's like exposing people to it. And it's in the face and chains all the fun. Yeah, whatever. Really, really got a sweet like this.

You don't like the fooled. I'm not sure. What about you, Jason? Like any of them Italian horrors?

No, I mean, I never got in a horror stream, which I enjoy a good movie, though, you know? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? We start talking about South Park the movie, though.

Yeah, it's South Park the rest. They're good there. Well, I had to tie it in with music, though. The music.

and you know what I cone a goblin stevio sipriani broona glotti and do go through my yeah those guys did these incredible soundtracks you know modern instruments synthesizers get you know electric guitars drum sets rock drumming it's really really inspiring stuff and you know I use that and I know works queen soundtrack flash so we talked about some of the things we talked about a little bit about modern movies on this podcast every so often so what's your opinion of? well for horror the french a french order is really making its way martyrs the genre torture porn kind of info there's a little bit of torture in this but it feeds the story the french are no don't use the cinema they're gonna use it to the frontiers the same your chance directed it and moved to the american films that's Michael Bien really yeah it's a I've actually heard of that because you mentioned that name I'm an old tiny fashion tiny guy I actually read newspapers and things like that and where's the Dixieland jazz? they have film festival in Cleveland every year which is one of the best and they actually like the friday section of the newspaper you know what's going on the weekend they always they have like their regular movie reviews but they also have like the cinematique and the different underground movies you know they make sure they show like some kind of foreign film or review something besides you know Adam Sandler's part six they still do they still advertise all the mainstream stuff but they actually have a couple pages devoted to you know non-poly wood yeah take movies and things like that and that's what I heard about it I've not seen it for you you say in your pet neighbor right now back like a flash like a tidal wave running from my brain what's a post apocalyptic story the beginning of the film is these people are in a building and they're all running down steps because jets are flying it looks like New York flying New York dropping nuclear weapons bombs huh everything's going up so beginning of the film I'm gonna check that out yeah it's pretty neat we lost a guest and barely that's working so probably five push higher stops but I'm still gonna point it out one way or another so I'll just talk about pie cash first yes get something up and leave right in the middle of the cast station so I actually did not come prepared at least as far as I might well with Chris I know well to sit there and talk about it so okay well then study back from horror a little bit what do you think about the other end of the movie industry anymore I don't see much really the last thing I saw theory road course okay that's the second I was trying to steer the story a little bit well George Miller thank God you know can still make a great science fiction film yes you know and speaking of that I want to get back to your book George has the honest list of credits for directions for movies babe I don't guess I love that no it's kind of like it's a very psychotic swing from one to the other because he also did 70s movie Lorenzo's oil very yeah yeah go ahead your phone cuz I'm just gonna sit here and flounder and something hold up I actually kind of was I was trying to remember to list the other day because he'll have a long stretch where he'll do no movies and then but yeah it's who we talked about George Miller okay you brought it to the store to see Scott wrong wrong since we're talking about some Georges a friend just sent me this age 70 for each other Australia yep I don't be but yeah for just the swing of what he does for movies is yeah George Romero and then there's a scare fest down the top of the game okay oh yeah mad Max fear he wrote in happy food yes happy that was yes Lorenzo's oil the witches of Eastwick Twilight Zone the movie second for I think that was the Vietnam no that was land this because that's right right right I remember I'm gonna check it out I'll let you out in the morning wasn't it it might have been it's been so long since you that movie I probably still have my VHS somewhere but I have not it's not one of those things I bought on the blue race now all right so I said that terrible I had this great collection of VHS and then DVD and I fucking blue-ray I said fuck I want to buy it again there was a few I recently did buy because I had a mug Hs and I realized I didn't have one on you and I was me I bought and they actually Amazon deliver in this week creeps on to which is I was it was one of my favorites for some reason and then they live especially so we pass it in a pipe or a stick yeah I watched it in a memorial I'm never typing here but Plex TV Piper did hell go hell come from town yes they made a sequel that to find really yeah nowhere near five words for no no alright so alright go ahead I did a kind of back theory road okay yeah I just thought that was great I'm anxious for the way to waste the way since the sequel really yes I didn't know that yeah now I am yeah I say anxious for a Tarantino's film hardly or hopefully yeah another Western Kurt Russell Samuel Jackson everybody is usually how is yeah oh Kurt Russell has them yeah he was in oh yeah yeah yeah it's not me I might yes right it's right about that actually like that death race is I always go no that's that's the long yeah death race is a thousand yeah I know because I was I don't like it but I don't like Tarantino really is in the feet but watch and then did you see the theater no I did not okay see that was experience I was gone after I saw on TV I was kind of wish I'd seen this day as it was and seeing the two together with Planet Terror Rodriguez and then the stuff in between like the fake trailers they you know oh my gosh those those are so hilarious and it was that grindhouse experience yeah they you know you don't find that anymore close to you come it's the dry yeah so true and there's they're showing you know first one pictures now yeah good exploitation not some more good exploitation no it's still you know it brings us back to an earlier podcast subject is that like revenge of the nerds where you get your girl where he gets the girl in the moon house who takes advantage of her that are all free senses but that's good exploitation I love it loves the nerds I'm only in a movie it's not really yeah you know you're like yeah yeah prisons calling then it's okay you know so Fury Road was one of the few films I actually seen in a theater all time because I kind of give up to you films theater unless it was really something special because after a while I'm kind of this is not worth wasting my money to go see it's okay as a rental to go watch it at the theater it's not it's not anything more spectacular than now you're a change that for me now doesn't mean I'm still going to go see every movie unless George Rex it now I will say when Star Wars comes out I will see that I want to see what he was yeah it's free work of a Star Trek is pretty good I still have not gotten around to see us but I everyone I know that especially Star Trek band lonely so did you see yes yes I said I liked it more than most people at least but I kind of knew it was going to be a little off and time all into the alien story just a little bit yeah so I like it I hate it a lot my friends are like a sock so about her singing it we can be honest with each other it did suck but there were some pretty cool sequences that yeah to me that will opening sequence yeah it's fantastic yeah fantastic makes more sense what you get further in the movie yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I think was a little bit of a let down it wasn't as bad as the little bit not I'm sorry what else does I interstellar I want to see that rather than going to see fury the rapid yeah World War II vehicle I would see interstellar which was okay I rather got it on video and it just was yeah yeah yeah to be honest I went there and it made me miss my kids already know yeah yeah yeah I guess I don't see that I guess I'm a space opera like savers yeah like savers and new women yeah I was actually kind of impressed with that I was kind of like a rap head might do just another offshoot of his character in the glory that's very good but he really did kind of play it I like for working movie it was okay I didn't mind it I wasn't expecting a lot of it so I was I was alright I never liked it no penny left movie I went to a theater and seemed to my kids at Toy Story 3 in 3D wow see as being a guy where's last this three movies are the stuff yeah I don't wear fucking glasses I don't wear glasses on top glasses that's like the inception of glasses I get great story about that movie I went to the theater with my wife to see that and I'm watching it yet it's movie about fucking sleeping like boils down to it yeah you're just sleeping you're fucking out I'm watching this movie and there's a sequence where nobody's asleep but I keep hearing snoring and I'm watching I turn and look at my wife it was her wow that was really surreal and awesome it wasn't great I'm probably over from the vortex and warm hole right there outside of the theater no dog like sleeping it's not your sleeping that way you can stay up indefinitely and all the hallucinations well just be normal in my sleep didn't we write that down we can make a movie oh it is more so actually yeah my greatest at least theater story is I've heard the sixth sense for several people I'm kind of that bitch bag though I don't do it on purpose but I'll be sitting there with my life yeah one shot with me came on sitting there watching it wait wait spoilers I see for a movie that's fucking over 15 years old now that's fires no seriously oh poor so I'll sit there and I'm like wait you never really see Willis actually cover he's fucking dead there are some kids these dead people goes like I turn my life over referrals dead what you never see recover you know everybody else they showed in the hospital should ever never see him recover and you can I go to go what's that you're supposed dead so you can get walk out dead why my watching this he's dead so yeah I'm that so that's not the first time I've done that movie theater that was the most memorable at least for me so I tried because anymore of all my gosh oh boy so what now I'm not gonna tell you you're gonna add you know to redeem my wife she she went with me to up in Detroit to go see human centipede to while she's pregnant she loves me obviously yeah human centipede to pregnant you know do the whole movie people get her heads bashed in a weird fucking just weirdness out of that film yeah the only time the crowd went ew is when the baby was born your wife no no in the film how does that feel that this lady has a baby in a car and it just kind of pops out and you can tell it's fake there's people getting their heads bashed in and when baby pops out everybody in the theater went ew I thought what the fuck I just stepped through the back door I guess we're gonna credit you why I gotta get my wife credit she went and saw I'm sure worse I'm like she liked it but she wasn't like I'm the only female I guess you probably are everybody else in the theater was sitting right around you ten people in the theater I know we're in the back but it's just a don't worry most common words are kind of afraid of my wife was it kind of afraid of most women anyhow not to offend anyone it's listening but then it's kind of I have noticed that because you know I'm I'm nerd I don't bother behind that I'm into what I'm into so we'll go to comic book shops because I'm always down just checking out whatever you know independent comic book shop is because all they're different so we'll go in there and my wife walks in and there's these guys are like just kind of coloring or they're just completely fascinating like there's a woman in here I'm gonna get it we paid a good money for that so yeah I just figured that you put that out there although my wife knows it's not what they say so what you break it's okay so what's your favorite comic book ever ever you know I mean a lot of ways I probably first inclination to say Penisher there's a really terrible runs on the pot sure because there was a punishment wrong where they decided oh now he's an Italian mobster he's related to the Italian mob for one person so he grew up ponytail then there was demon hunter Frank Castle which he got this weird spiritual gun and hunted demons for like six years and then the worst was not long after Disney had acquired part of Marvel and they turned Frank Castle into Frankenstein and had these weird sewer creature friends that helped put him back together and I think they even got away from punishing criminals and that was I quit reading it for a long time at least for two years after that so the current one they're doing where he's kind of a desert storm bed really good it's a lot more realistic he wears body armor like actual body armor now and paints a symbol on so first inclination to go with that but I had to say probably longest running and even though the when I keep bringing it back it still seems pretty good it's actually G.I. Joe okay I've always been kind of impressed with the writers they've always brought on and I know that's one of the girl noise not the panel I'd probably have to kind of go with you because that's kind of what I'd have to kind of go with the writing and it's always good it's always they've never dunked it down too much yeah that's kind of the problem I discovered but also revisiting some of the overcomic books I like when I was younger is writing in this pure trash yeah it's just terrible even somebody over the Spider-Man it's not like somebody writing I mean Spider-Man has had these really good points like Mr.

Lightning Farland was heading up that was really good you know Chris is really bored he's checking his messages were his chain facts yes alright since you asked me how you got one probably Conan alright actually probably because of the the Robert Howard influence they were all Howard stories but they used his style mmm just bad I already know I was okay the first one second I was a for I think yeah damn what is best in life he's a little bit of limitation of the minute crush on enemies I'm gonna run before you my course a little bit off it's pretty close so alright so brought comes I don't really a lot anymore but there are a few titles I still check out and there's one I really recommend everyone called sex girls okay the writers are awesome the premise is when you first hear about what the fuck but there's people that have discovered that when there's it's I think they figured out it's about one out of every 15 when I have an orgasm time freezes they can move about so two people finding discover one another they can do this well the one woman she also works at a library that a corporation is by going to the building over in the library so her boyfriend come up with scheme to go have sex in the bathroom go to the bank that's two doors down steal the money they need from the bank but things kind of go horribly awry so not the spoilery the other basic premise of where it starts from so it's become so popular now that I actually have a hard time let's like reorder it getting it anyway so I got into a what the preacher series oh yeah that was really awesome like they're making a many series yeah I heard they're gonna do that not be in our sense yeah I'll do that of course it'll help way that I can know that stuff yeah it's incredible all right I guess we'll put more people comments in the film while we're on movies last night last time I had was art was from the 70s and was the size of this table it was from like a Star Wars movie oh yeah they had a special name for those we're usually combine several things in one huge magazine size no it was decided that was the table no seriously wasn't well Disney is probably going to start doing that again on say like they make huge things the size of the table let's mark the things yeah I think I still have it home somewhere how much you think that'd be worth any day I'd take it on how much it's worth and then how much it get true since it's worth three grand people be like I'm not a man it's like three months and I get it you know this is a broad Disney and I haven't mentioned they are pimping the shit out of since they bought Star Wars rights I can't turn around on them having making more more merchandise yeah which I mean it was always kind of big before but it's they need I don't know if you guys know but when they released the toys for the force of wakes they made a huge deal out of it on the internet target everyone every chain got at least a few things some other chain didn't target was really telling that so it's more more than else than what's worse is because I am kind of the nerd that buys the action figures but after a while I got fucking stops without having to do it so unless it's something really really really cool that really catches my eye I don't bother anymore I look into the camera's got me I'll move on but I might even just check out the key mark here in town and erect and empty well it's probably anything like wal-armed hit was the same way the people just went and I mean this is I'm not just talking about there was like a 12-inch gap this was like a four-foot gap of Star Wars shit they got ready for and it's gone I think it was like they're making a huge like 12-inch action it's a lot of it's spot stories probably still stuff from Empire on the shelf the original boxes yeah we found this was going down pretty fast before I noticed that that's point of I know I know but I'm gonna feel like that next week or close because it's gonna store really I'm up to tell me more besides all the yeah yeah I know what happened to the foster you this job to go on what more that is basically what comes down to I mean yeah they go that one of the old that was crankshot building they can act somebody knew is going in there now that's been the biggest news down for a good one so George we really brought it down next lock res people well back in comics and stuff like that we think about the passing of the author oh yeah that's right we're doing this out and I'm a dude the guy that you passed away I think you said it best when we were talking about this once before and I wrote a song that's our Mar-a-do what the fuck and you said the only person and then turned into a song all right here is our Ode to the passing of the new name we don't remember the department Bill Anderson see because you said and I actually kind of predicted this I think he's supposed to be the brother of the guy that does go in the service right no key I believe this no brand Anderson I was wrong okay I wrote down Brandon I was happy to know it's pause here yeah sure for the song oh yeah we did I'll stop that okay now back if you want to all stop here you can engineer oh no no it'll fit go by the CD do people still YCD besides us I'm not much I don't depends on what it is I did recently by I realized this is one I have I feel like I should be ashamed for admitting this but I still like the exploited there are some people that are like you dumbing her fuck and it is kind of a dumb down but there are some stuff on the exploited I really like I mean song sex and violence very dumb but very catchy you know it's three minutes of sex and violence but they're really cool drum beat and a little bit of our soul in it but I realized that I have four epics on CD at some point I'm actually set years ago and or ethics always like that had a really dark sound yeah that is a weird thing I don't know if I've been special since being different very fans I was figuring out how they did that either through production or through their gear so once again I'm nerd so I think you should kind of come up whether it's music or comments so you guys don't know my CDs anymore I don't know anymore if you buy any music yeah I just remember I paid ten a month I'm gonna download I probably like 5,000 songs on here and I just Bluetooth my car so I don't need the CD yeah I just download but up till I started going down I was still not in CDs with the car and shit like that you know just like driving jam I still buy CDs every once in a while if I really if I need that physical media yeah but yeah that's I bought a CD I bought a copy of the secret cows CD so literally there you go I don't know I didn't even have concerts but that but since you brought that up I do kind of notice that as long as I'm not anymore it's just other independent artists that I was talking about too but so how do you how do we how do we foresee music like for us how do guys like us make make our mark make our mark you know I thought I actually thought about that I mean what's it what's our our motivations have always been the same right we love music yeah playing love now I'm like kid rock I got into the punk rock for the chicks yeah I actually got the chicks I watched I don't know and he's being interviewed by somebody and I said something about well you know as bands you know usually get in this for a lot of the music fuck no anybody every guy gets into the music for the chicks they get in a band for playing chicks I'm like what is wrong cuz I start playing pump bands and especially in this area there were yeah there's there were no chicks in the punk rock if they were at the show it's cuz usually I'm not trying to be an asshole about this but usually their boyfriend played in a band yeah or somebody's mom taking it to the pump show mentor I step in great towards the middle family well that's I go back your original question the size of it smart ass about it um I have kind of thought about that I guess at least that maybe the only thing that might be to our band just since everything's on a digital media on a lot of us are putting it out somewhere we either be on YouTube or some then at least maybe here's not a road someone will discover it and be like hey I heard this before that's not the advantage we have started out now what's going to be maybe forgotten like V-trex once 30 years past or whatever but that's kind of like by then we'll be able to pipe it's a limited leaf straight into a brain we will need a physical storage this is true I've been noticing that there's a lot of how I say it's going straight image where they're gonna have to be good singers yeah I'll complain about that last night with Saturday Night Live is replaying their it was Dave's Frank on Nicki Minaj and that was you know I don't really watch but I was sitting watching Nicki Minaj I'm like there's nothing to this yeah she's something I always thought like 30 40 years ago like all the classic Rocky here on the radio and they all played their own instruments and an ugly dude there's lots of ugly do I got famous mr. Justin the jammers kind of that he was you know now now you have to be since everything's programmed you have a backing track behind you and a band really doesn't play live unless you're at a hundred seat venue support your local music see everything's polished so you know it's it's not musical ability anymore it's the image yeah yeah that's like actually going off that a little bit we have something else where one of those quote of like the pop country county line I think their name is he's going to Georgia line something like that yeah these guys are very much all image actually they set song that's an arrest only game is it I think this is different because I recognize the song but I do know the one you're talking about now this is a different song but yeah I mean really except these guys had you can tell they had stylists work on their hair before they came out before him and the guy had the revisited 80s slash jeans and just I'm like there was a time when I don't give a shit what doing junior fucking smack you yes I fell fucking clip or some shit like that my face and stylist for your hair but that was the thing they were playing guitar they were just kind of dancing around the microphone at the exact angle where the camera could still get their face in the microphone wasn't in the way I just wanted to make a real microphone and that it said yeah for both yeah I mean it's got wireless mic so give time and they start getting their dance moves down you know once they hire that choreographer then I have to go to that sense that's that's that upper echelon yes exactly I mean we're talking chairman or is dead I mean he couldn't sing when you watch your mouth that part of the valley but yeah that's actually something I think about that a lot recently just recently a time where yeah but it looks to not matter as much and yeah that was thing with making like even not she had some woman on stage I don't know who it was I was kind of curious actually it was it was pointy you know and singing most of the actual vocals and then she come in and do this really hamfisted rap that had I don't have anything against rap but I still think you should have a style or flow to it yeah and it was just it was just so rammed in there it just it hurt I just I really wanted to hurt and that brings me back to the formula you're talking about rap and you're talking about the other Chris's ability to take cover songs and change the style and turn them into something else I still think mixing like NWA and old-timey barbershop quartets that kind of have like the barbershop guys and like the four octaves rapping both the bullies yeah actually the chorus of fucks that'd be awesome maybe not barbershop maybe like the do-up style because you can have your fingers to the beat snap to the beat easily yeah approach the microphone because I ain't no joke tell you my momma to get up on my dick I got no time to give it then okay that's the only snap you can do that hey I'm always open to try new things as far as music goes so if you want to give it a go I'll be right there with you go down and play it's over really well in this area I went to do a happy death metal oh my flowers pretty much have you ever seen on YouTube the Disney versions of cannibal corpse and slayer yes those are awesome I have nothing brings as much joy to me as watching the Disney cannibal corpse version of hammer smash face this is just awesome yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah if those are listening if you have not seen these yet you are missing out just Disney version of the cable corpse here's my face just you're awesome and there's some band that played the summer festival that found out called cannabis no I did not know I said yeah what I'm joking I suck you're stealing the popularity of legalization unfortunately I got my own subject wrong they've been around for almost as long as it's like four years after cannibal corpse started I think like some star for everyone so dude dude dude you know what they need to do do a band like you know that's too fast yeah you ever seen cannibal corpse on me they're still real fast that dates as whoops yeah I was reading something about it because they're throwing up there's gonna be like a death metal fest and knowing actually oh that is it like for the yeah I have these bands but I want to name down the list have you guys listen to any newer I try it some while I skin through some stuff and it's pretty awful I kind of like well listen to the college station and you know Saturday nights they have their metal thing and I know I know it is one as I am need old because I was a lot of bands who screamed but it wasn't the same it was like they were angry and frustrated about something these guys are just like they're just screaming just because it's a thing to do there's no emotion because that's not the same part is the best band the best music to come out of that scene in the longest time with a period death clock cartoon no you're right yeah the whole all the songs are good I don't care who you are it's like a show heavy drums and I think it was the birthday song I got you but you're right I kind of brutal I mean I was thinking you know why not just go ahead and start a metal act for children doing children's songs you would sell more music than metallic probably check please double boom boom check me what I hate this but yeah there's sorry sorry I get from back into the pin yeah you know you're hungry no spin kicks we don't put up with that shit here elbows here's something from left field you remember in I think it was the is like 80s or early 90s when the daycare in California I think there was a lot of talk about it was a satanic they take the kids do these tunnels and then take them and take them and sit on a rituals and stuff like that weird stuff like that research yeah just a little just and there's some people that have come out and said you know what they found it was all quoted but hopes their never any tunnels or anything I found some people saying that yes there were tunnels they've been covered over and in these subsequent investigations there's a book that was written by Senator what it's called the Franklin cover-up and it's about this credit union in Franklin Nebraska and this guy that ran the same American so this guy named Larry King was taking kids and basically prosecuting them out was flying to Washington he was in this Larry King I was headed like the conservative Republican conservative party in Nebraska and he's flying these children out to Washington DC doing midnight tours at the White House and then big influential people actors senators business people were all coming and schooling kids and doing satanic rituals with them that one of the diaries of the kids described how they went to it's time they didn't know what it was looking and went there and saw them murder a child that they they were forced to have sex with and then they were forced to have sex with a bunch of other guys as this kid's head just got them in sex with them and they were all famous rich and re-tempered himself okay is because that kind of stuff is very you know you have to think this is my future or not yeah well the author of the book had to go to court because he was sued and so they would record and they had to drop the case because the court found out it's fucking true working at the library thought I gotta get this book I gotta read this book it's not available to but just trying to find you know things like that can you imagine just that whole system that's so screwed up and this is all identified with conspiracy theories you break it down and you have to take this book to court to prove that it's fucking true and it ends up being true yeah and why isn't that you know why isn't that in our news why isn't that sorry no no actually ties in with also something that I posted two days ago it kind of ties in there was a skit on Saturday night live that got here once that was it exposed what corporations what TV companies yeah and he did it in style school half rock okay so it got played once and I got game completely off the air so well that's Dave Chappelle yeah his whole against the system of power and I don't know if you've seen any of the interviews with him where he's talking about this this line of power or this is power structure that there's people crazy I mean look at look at the systems I mean we love rock music we love comic books and movies and a lot of that shit is just it boils down to it is a lot of weirdness people that push out those are pushing out American Idol yeah you know because it all comes back to the same company the same yeah and everybody owns everything and so then everything just becomes homogeneous now and that's why you know it's tied in with as underground artists you know as we try and form our way into their I've always wanted to bring down that whole system of image pull the fail down look over there that's a wizard of Oz not that big yelling thing and I think that it's bringing down that that fail differences you know we're sitting here talking about all these great things that we enjoy and we love and I just met you too Dan and I've been friends for a while but you know this is what it's about this is this is movements this is how we well that was one I had several reasons I've started podcast and I've kind of talked about something fast but one of the podcasts I was into a lot is Kevin Smith some hits largely a lot of entertainment he doesn't get too political but he didn't say something one day that kind of struck true with me because he's always encouraging people who go start podcasts he goes I'm serious do this now while you still can't do it for fun just basically meaning that the government's not getting involved no one's telling you well if you have a podcast this is your criteria you have to have so yeah that was kind of one of the factors where it was that's kind like yeah it makes sense just do it and I kind of like having an open format because who knows what we're gonna do I mean I got to keep kind of few core things we usually rest yeah no that's right that's our total sphere now macho man actually I kind of dressed out a little bit because we've had a class that's why is macho man here and I kind of I was a kid in the 80s I was a little bit fascinated by humanity but as I got older I'm like I kind of realized the ridiculousness of rainy savage is he calling himself macho man from the start and he wore the biggest sequin cape anyone had ever seen at the time but yet he still had this very macho persona despite sequence and being bedass like so I just I just got a ring and he's balding so we were more band-in and he just I don't know just there's no such a business just a big boy oh yeah anybody they can pull off the band and glitter roll you gotta have a little bit extra on another level so exactly well that's time so that's how he takes was our senior yeah but yeah he was just such a larger than my character so I just don't know and then when he got in the accident the killed him and then my favorite thing that happened was four days after he got that accident the supposed to opaculate my apocalypse was supposed to happen and then the internet just kind of went and ran with the fact that macho man dropped the flying elbow on Jesus to be a bocalice I still have that picture saying on my phone I have this film to my computer since just cuz whoever did that photo that picture did was such a loving care it was like Michael Angel himself painted it so yeah I guess that was kind of a three-way for look but I have thought about that before but yeah we've always personally talking about the Illuminati is just my biggest disappear one day I think that's part of our job being underground musicians artists and what not is to speak in the underground today today we all celebrate the first day of football go local team what's your favorite football team their day and my favorite is go local sports team you know we are missing out on all the one o'clock Sunday games right now because we're here yeah I know and I'm going to talk about them like they're my team my team is going to or we that's my favorite is when we press it with we we we are going to take Super Bowl is like like I was ever on the fucking team start with that that's always kind of annoying I always had this one thing I didn't understand like why would you like brand yourself another person's name like like where like where the jersey I own one jersey it's kind of like as a joke oh yeah I remember this one some guy from the Browns that kind of ruined their team they only 30 years ago yeah one that was married the chick from that girl TLC oh yeah yeah Andrei Christ and yeah and he was like just that name was like an encapsulation of all the fail around the Cleveland area and so that's the one jersey I own why do they wearing the jersey is also kind of what they call a troll yes exactly that is the point so but there's something to that because even I have a what's not a jersey but it's a I'm called hockey song and I have a blue jacket what's okay for talking thanks hey Ray even I did not put somebody else's name on the back of it I put destroyer 92 on it so I was like I'm not putting somebody else's name on this one. I'm paying actually one of the original like when there was 14th there out in Canada destroyer was a goldie I got nothing. Yeah I know it's like desperately reaching for that joke and it just was you're just kind of grabbing air after a couple seconds.

That was a good effort though. I only put names on my underwear. Yeah me too. Names on inside outside.

I mean I named the stains in my underwear from Max. I tried to jump in before I got to that it didn't make the same. So rolling back a little bit to where you're talking about underground artist you think you need to dress that little bit. That is kind of one thing in the Sacred Cals I do kind of focus a little on the humor but I be trying to point out things without being people with a headline.

So I try to find a happy medium without you doing humor. Yeah so not being people with a head but things. Yeah there's like five words of one song. Family circus is not funny.

Well yeah five words. I'm not really getting somebody with a headline. What would you scream really? I didn't from a distance.

It's in the wrong way. Yeah yeah point. So I mean you know about the worst idea about shoving something and people say it's probably the song technology. But it is just more of a statement of just kind of pointing out to people that they're constantly hunched over looking at their phones walking around and not kind of paying attention to everything else that's around them.

And we as a society kind of just accepted it as a whole. Well there is one person guilty on the face. What is it? But it is the only we've gotten since I'm a little fart.

I'm always a star. So far in the technology that it is. I mean when Reagan heard it, when he was the old man voice for this. But we used to go to an emphasis there's something wrong with it.

We all kind of went to the mall at some point. At least to go interact with other people around our age whether it was a good or bad interaction. Still an interaction. Still learn something from it.

I don't think I'm kind of pointed out to people is we have nothing but the mall. Growing up in Philly you kind of just it was we didn't have so many divided factions as far as I'm a skateboarder, you ride DMX we need to fight. There was never that huge interaction. So first time I was kind of facing back because even growing up as kind of a skate punk kid in a fiddly the things that were metal heads still didn't feel the need to fuck with us.

Because for those that don't know and because I guess we never really talked about this we are in Ohio. Actually we need to point out JP the one guy that's brought it from. I guess you did not realize because we never actually said we are in Ohio. We kind of mentioned some places that are near.

We don't know where Dan is from now that I think about it. So we are in Ohio. But where the area we're at in Ohio is kind of the furthest from everything as far as any sort of real culture Ohio has. Columbus is far away.

Cleveland is a trick. Toledo is the closest thing. Toledo is probably the worst thing to pull from. I don't want to feel anything about people who have been very friends but Toledo their friends.

It's kind of a bad pull as far as a cultural pull. I mean they have to go pump bands that came out there and how the networks came out of Wyoming. But they still don't have quite the scene. Now there's been a fledgling scene for as long as I can remember.

They borrowed a lot of it from Troy. Really? Or Ann Arbor. Yeah.

So it was kind of weird for me because we were all kind of least united and at least for even if we're not the same I'm not going to fuck with you a whole lot. Because Finley was so conservative and we're public in and there was a lot of old oil money in the area that where if you were kind of a different kid you'd just kind of be able to get it together or you'd be tolerated when others don't stand. Because I remember getting exposed to the first time going to Toledo walking around at skater and then there's a whole group of metalheads who wanted to kick me in my friend's ass. I'm like what the fuck?

I was in my talic, I'm Jesus. So you know my mom made me come here like this. So long hair was cool. That's right.

That's probably in a metalhead group too. But yeah it was just kind of a cultural shock and I don't know. I talked about it before. We kind of made just a really weird tight group of weirdos no matter what you're in.

We would all go to what for a long time was the anchor center would have shows. So that disappeared. They did Finley try as much as they could to disparage any sort of freedom. Yeah.

They really use it for art for its. And I even got to go to people like James Powell, correct. He really tried to get something going in the early 90s as far as Finley considered when nobody else could. Because even I had kind of thought about it at some point.

But I'm like there's no place that's really willing to let us have shows. Because as soon as you went to somebody like hey we have shows here whether it was a VFW hall or something. Which was kind of the traditional places where all the older art core are just around Finley. They're like what kind of show are you playing around half?

Rock and roll show. Like well what age group are we talking about? And yeah they didn't want the liability. They didn't want the hassle.

So yeah and that was at least something I'd give James Powell for his heat least forged his own way to start having shows. And I think even once he started the anchor shows to taper off for a while there I think the people that ran it didn't really want that element there anymore. But I have a lot of really good memories and stories from the anchor. But we'll get to those.

But then again at some point again in the mid 90s because I kind of dropped out of view for a while. They'd start having a few shows again there because I know there were bands like Night in My South. A few other little pump bands that started playing shows here. I did I actually with the noise band I had did two shows in Finley.

One was at the, I forget what they even called it. Very simple. Yeah. And I had a little scene that showed that.

They mentioned 13. Okay. It was one of the best because there was I maybe a hundred people there. And as soon as I started they all left.

And there's like eight or nine people just standing there and that was it. And because it was it was. I called it Art and Oysterism. All right.

That's how Doug was in it. And he ate a bunch of fucking mushrooms and then flipped out and then ran on somebody's porch and grabbed her pumpkin. And it's this huge fucking pumpkin. And he smashed it on his head.

But he had to do it a couple of times and made him even littier. Okay. I don't know. I don't remember that.

And Doug played this baritone but he played slide. It was great. But he's trying to wear that pumpkin and he ate mushrooms so you know he's not doing so well. He's like, is that?

Pumpkin head was just too much. Okay. Because I'm all about to hear his thing. Where's that world of shows?

I was, my, what's that? What's that? Was this the same show that did you have someone on stage reading these papers while considering cigarettes? No.

Okay. And that had to be because there was the guys from Satan's, Fortia. That sounded very similar. I remember the name they went by but I remember they took up the whole wire with a band name.

So, I must have had to work that much because I would have remembered that show as far as. And then the next show I did was two weeks later and my band didn't want to do it anymore. Doug had to work or something. I don't remember Doug just couldn't do it.

And the only guy that showed up was the conga player. I was like, awesome dude. Like a conga player. Ed Volley, you know, I had these guitar players and a keyboardist.

I didn't want to go to the show up and conga players showed up. This very, I just, I grabbed people from another band. This is here, do this. So just take my direction.

That was kind of the great thing about the Aries is that a sporadic band could just start playing. Because I remember at one show I was at. You know, everyone there was pretty familiar with me and some former and other. And they had a band that canceled and I think Disney Invasion played that night.

Because I remember it was part of Disney Invasion and one of the other bands I don't remember which. We were like, well we need to feel some time. We're like, we need to sing. I mean, someone's vocal.

So like, well, what do we all know? Well, we all know, we all know, we all know, we all know, we all know, we might have some kind of threatened like, who knows. Damn. Yeah, no minor for it though.

Yeah. Get up here. Alright. So I did some weird combo version of minor for X version of stepping down in the sex pistols where I kind of, and yeah, we did that.

We went that one out and I think about two other songs. But the thing, I was, that was a great moment of my life and it was also when I really discovered how much I love just being on stage performing. And also, you know, I was trying to tie my shoes together the entire time I was on stage, but fortunately I was moving around and I actually got to do that. I mean, he's a pretty notorious person.

He's a good dude. I kind of know, knows with a lot of people kind of know what, I haven't tried to put this, what state of mind he was in when he met him also reflects it. How do you think about that? So is there any, how do I say underground music that you listen to now?

Beyond, like, levels or just in general? In general. I'm sure there is, because I'm always finding stuff on the internet. That is the one thing I got to say is it's great about the internet.

It's great. As long as you are kind of out there looking, you can always kind of find something you're kind of out there. I picked up on the band's hella. It's a drummer and a guitarist.

And since I had the one band, I still be signing my drums and guitar. I really got into them, but they were singing. It's just a drummer from the guitar. And the other band is Don Caballero.

Okay. They've been around for a while. Yeah, 90s. They're open up for some.

I think they open up for clutch or something. Okay. They were, I've just been finding them now. I think, you know, why didn't I ever hear this stuff?

This is great stuff. The music I hear and stuff I get to is still stuff that's on like playlists for the actual clubs. Okay. Like Bowling Green has their Wednesday night, Goth night, the I-nation.

Up in Detroit, they have like the city club that opens up a warehouse on Saturday nights and all the freaks go there. I have a story that just reminds me and this is really funny. This is how goofy. This is how goofy Kevin Patterson is.

Yeah. Him and I met at a skinny puppy show one night because we were the only two fucking people in that whole band. That whole place is wearing white t-shirts. This is in Detroit, you know, we're some little club and I'm thinking as we're driving up here and I see this whole line of people.

You know, they're all this dog and I'm thinking shit, I wore a white t-shirt. I'm wearing my shorts and a white t-shirt. And I get up there and we get into this place and I saw some dude and I'm like, look, I don't feel so bad. Some other guy in this whole band plays it.

Kevin Patterson, holy shit. Two family guys. White t-shirt. It's a skinny puppy.

Just as we were saying this, that image, you know, why couldn't I have learned of Don Capillero in the 90s when they were really going? It's like, what the fuck? Why isn't our distribution systems better? No.

You know, one of the things that soured me to Metallica and he grew up with Metallica is during the whole Napster thing. I was kind of pissy because those guys met together in tape traders and as tape traders. What's wrong with Napster? You know, you could train their music.

Getting music out there. No, you're going to be an asshole. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, they're really kind of mad.

I think in the long run, I've been in the ass. And just, I don't know. On one hand, I kind of saw their point about their bigger band. That's how they make their money out.

On the other hand, yes, that was also how they came to be and get known was through tape training which was just basically the early version of Napster. You can use your music. Yeah. So, sneaker trading instead of online trading, you sneaker method to transfer your data around.

That's right. That's a guy who was, you know, impersonally I just met him because he was on a work detail. Anyway, he would sell drugs that way. He used this bicycle.

So you never get pulled over and he would always use a pay phone. Right. And that's how we did it. And why did I see him in work detail?

Dumbass. Well, that was after they got rid of the pay phone. Yeah, it was too. Yeah, that's the sort of an alternative.

I guess, I don't know, as far as the new run around me, I've heard one day I called World of the Owl. I've been talking a lot recently. Usually it's just kind of local vans. The old breed, one of them, it's like a man, they're doing kind of the boy pump thing.

They're advertising show at the end of the month. It's that same place that if we got our stuff together. We probably got to stay filled with them. Yeah, I know.

We really need to get organized. Yeah, because AUS is about that. Chris and I have kind of been working on another side project. But we haven't gotten a lot done.

Trust me. I know. We really probably should focus more on cows because we have had been a second wave of interest kind of coming up. We have people in CDs and people asking for your company shows.

I'm just kind of, oh yeah, eventually. But yeah, the hard part was just trying to get everybody together at the same time practice. Yeah, so that's usually kind of what plays really well. Now I'm just looking, you're talking about the secret part.

But yeah, I also have to speak a little bit about what we did. I've been doing a lot of rediscovering older stuff once again. Some other other pump bands I was going to do have a lot of other stuff. And of course we're going to stuff I don't take that.

Yeah, but yeah, I'm always kind of on the internet. Just trying to check out. What's up there? Some of it on the internet.

Yeah, can I have this covered if it's a band where they sell a t-shirt at Hot Topic? Yeah, I'm having a blanket. They got a really long name like Blood on the dance floor. This is my underground, not really underground anymore.

Do you ever do it? D.A.ward? It's a related riff ref? No, it's south.

South Africa. Or South America. Oh, rap. Is this actually where you got into that Mongolian throat thing?

That's just great, isn't it? You found it, guys. Oh, you found it right on it. That's what does that happen.

I'm going to throw it. I think you might found it. I don't remember. Standing in a typical mongo kind of dress and he's doing lots of hand.

And now I've known that. It's interesting watching times. I've never done that. You're like, okay, I'll probably find that.

I was looking up how the monks used to go to an eagle for hunting. You know, like actual hunting, hawks and everything. It's not the way you control the eagles. And the birds say maybe some people have their dog for ducks and coon dogs and things like that.

The only thing you have to eat is eagles. So I think they went, yes. They went. That's the thing.

I was saying everything. It's just odd. The way I've been talking to the three of us come across things is by a whale and other things. It's not even a way.

I came across my bollion throat singing when I was thinking about how they use eagles to hunt. And yeah, I just go over to Tayan Horror by listening to the band Electric Wizarding. It's not. Actually, I was introduced to the singing through.

I didn't open this door. Oh, it's just a cheesy band that plays all the freak in summer concert, outdoor theater circus. It's a fleck tone. That's the best band in general.

I'm actually playing. Jam band. I watch with songs. Yeah.

Well, some of their music they had. Okay. I think it's like the Tibetan monk singing with them. Then they go up and they're a little ten minute deep.

They're a little rambled. Actually, I thought something was not completely related but since I talked about Electric Wizard. I do want to point out, I don't know. I've seen it because I posted a few times.

Have you seen the video called The Chosen that they did? It's part recreation and part real film from Columbine. Wow. It is one of the most, I wouldn't say moving because that's kind of wrong.

But it really kind of just opens up your mind too. I guess it's being freaked. I always kind of, not exactly understand where these kids come from but I knew how it happened. Because I remember after that, and after that was the other thing for years.

It's eight years after the tragedy of Columbine. We're back here to see how everyone's handling it. You're only kind of further into the end. They're legends by doing this.

It's a really interesting video to watch. Especially when they throw in real clips from some of them after it is very chilling to watch. Because it does become much more real for you. Even I discovered as much of the tragedy it was.

Watching it on the news talk about it can still kind of disconnect yourself. Oh yeah. But once you're kind of seeing some of the footage, it's very, it's not broken. I'm just joking about that.

I just thought about that since the sun is brought back up. I kind of recommend anybody just check out The Chosen. Hopefully YouTube still doesn't make it off. But this point, but what it is, it's part recreation where they got two kids.

They've shared a part. But I think that was a song they probably wrote about something else. And it kind of like how John rewrote Candlelin the Wind. It's originally about Harold Monroe.

And it's about Princess Diana. That song is Biz Markey singing many of the best. And this is why he's my co-hosts. There's a lot of things that he just, he might derail it.

Sometimes he did it right into the swamp. I think he literally lives in it right now. I think I won't bring up revenge on the nerds for a while. It was kind of like, we have to talk about rape every episode.

No, it was getting that bad. I was like, I just talked about how much I love that movie. You got to talk about it. I forgot how much I loved it.

You're like, yeah, well, there's also it's a double rape. Yeah, that's true. You kind of, you know, you kind of black that out of your mind. And then you brought it up again in the next episode.

And I think he's one more. I wanted to find the drop. You know, as a feminist, I'm highly into these issues. I don't have anywhere else to go from here.

It's all downhill. We're getting close to 80 minutes. So I guess we probably ought to wrap it up. Usually I have a movie quote, but Chris is really from me once again with the prevention of nerds rape thing.

I went right on my head again. So I'll see if Chris has a movie quote. He told you on the spot. How about the first?

Usually I can actually let me know. I usually don't reference the movie. So that way people have to go search it. Okay.

I'm going to go ahead and reference the movie. Because the first, I'll say any film that's really good. I say the first 10 minutes, there is no talking in it. So we'll go with, I really noticed this in first.

Okay. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Okay. The whole opening sequence.

And then it's talking by leaving a cleaf. And it moves the whole film forward from there. And I think that's my quote is going to be. That's a tiny little song.

Please offer money to kill his employer. I think that would not work. I think that would not work. I think that would tell you something.

Awesome. Could have been there. Because otherwise that would have just been something from here. It would have been like, wait this way!

Yeah! Alright. Dan's story here once again. I thought I should be a quick follow-up.

That would be good. That would be good. That would be good. That was my follow.

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