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EPISODE · Jun 12, 2026 · 59 MIN

Purpose Meets Profit: Building a Mental Health Practice That Sustains

from Organizational Sherlocks, a Business Psychology podcast · host Organizational Sherlocks with Morgan Ashworth and Dr. Elizabeth Fleming

There is a story that runs quietly through the mental health field — and through purpose-driven organizations of every kind: that caring too much about money, growth, or business systems makes you less committed to the people you serve. That profit is the thing you reluctantly manage, not something you can build with intention. Dr. Elil Yuvarajan has spent over a decade proving that wrong. In this episode of Organizational Sherlocks, Dr. Elizabeth Fleming sits down with Dr. Yuvarajan — core faculty in the PsyD program in Counseling Psychology at Saint Mary's of Minnesota and founder and CEO of Stepping Stone Therapy — to explore what it actually takes to build a practice that is both profitable and purpose-driven. Dr. Yuvarajan lives this tension from two sides at once: he is training the next generation of clinicians in the classroom while running and growing an insurance-based private practice in the real world .This conversation is for anyone building or leading an organization where the mission and the bottom line are supposed to coexist — and where that balance never feels quite settled.Topics Covered:Why purpose and profit are not opposing forces — and what it costs to treat them like they areThe money stories clinicians (and people in helping professions broadly) carry — and how those stories quietly shape pricing, boundaries, and burnoutWhat building a sustainable private practice actually looks like operationally: hiring, pricing, systems, and the decisions most practice owners avoidEthical considerations in pricing and service delivery in mission-driven fieldsHow to balance direct clinical work with the demands of running and growing an organizationThe rise of AI and value-based care — and what it means for the future of psychology and behavioral healthWhat organizational leaders and HR professionals can learn from the mental health field about sustaining people without burning them out

There is a story that runs quietly through the mental health field — and through purpose-driven organizations of every kind: that caring too much about money, growth, or business systems makes you less committed to the people you serve. That profit is the thing you reluctantly manage, not something you can build with intention. Dr. Elil Yuvarajan has spent over a decade proving that wrong. In this episode of Organizational Sherlocks, Dr. Elizabeth Fleming sits down with Dr. Yuvarajan — core faculty in the PsyD program in Counseling Psychology at Saint Mary's of Minnesota and founder and CEO of Stepping Stone Therapy — to explore what it actually takes to build a practice that is both profitable and purpose-driven. Dr. Yuvarajan lives this tension from two sides at once: he is training the next generation of clinicians in the classroom while running and growing an insurance-based private practice in the real world .This conversation is for anyone building or leading an organization where the mission and the bottom line are supposed to coexist — and where that balance never feels quite settled.Topics Covered:Why purpose and profit are not opposing forces — and what it costs to treat them like they areThe money stories clinicians (and people in helping professions broadly) carry — and how those stories quietly shape pricing, boundaries, and burnoutWhat building a sustainable private practice actually looks like operationally: hiring, pricing, systems, and the decisions most practice owners avoidEthical considerations in pricing and service delivery in mission-driven fieldsHow to balance direct clinical work with the demands of running and growing an organizationThe rise of AI and value-based care — and what it means for the future of psychology and behavioral healthWhat organizational leaders and HR professionals can learn from the mental health field about sustaining people without burning them out

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