Pursuing a North Star Through Cloudy Skies with Leonard Burton

Let’s begin with a middle school stage play in Detroit. The lights are dim, the demerits are high, and a boy named Leonard has just been kicked off the production. Enter Miss Liggins, a teacher with a different script. She doesn’t erase the consequences—she rewrites the role. “You’ll be our stage manager,” she says. And with that, a seed is planted: that someone’s belief in you, especially when you don’t believe in yourself, can change everything.This is how Leonard Burton’s story begins. But it’s hardly where it ends.This week, Carrie Fox sits down with Leonard—now President and CEO of the Center for the Study of Social Policy—to trace the arc of a life lived in service to justice, from the east side of Detroit to the deserts of Saudi Arabia, from family hardship to national leadership. It’s a story that defies neat narrative structure. Because Leonard’s journey isn’t linear, it’s layered—built on memories, mentors, and moments of moral clarity that refuse to fade.Leonard talks about the indignity of a two-tiered chemotherapy room—one for Medicaid patients, one for the privately insured. He recounts the sounds of Scud missiles in Desert Storm, and the sight of a paraplegic neighbor who gave him his first view of the world outside his block. He shares the transformative experience of sitting in a village in apartheid South Africa, watching democracy unfold not with slogans or soundbites, but with silence, patience, and consensus.And through it all, he makes the case—not with urgency, but with gravity-that that justice is not an abstraction. It is food on the table. It is health care with dignity. It is family autonomy and the freedom to imagine a better future.Now, as the leader of CSSP, Leonard is advancing a bold North Star strategy grounded in three pillars: health justice, economic justice, and family autonomy — all threaded through with racial justice. His is a call to hold fast when others are retreating, to keep the lights on when the grid is under attack.Leonard’s message is clear: This is not the time to shrink. This is not the time to compromise on values in exchange for comfort. This is the time to light candles if the power fails, to widen the circle, and to remember — in the words of his mentor, Collins Ramusi — “Forward ever, backwards never.”Links & NotesLearn more about the Center for the Study of Social Policy (00:00) - Welcome to Mission Forward (02:36) - Introducing Leonard Burton (12:46) - Center for the Study of Social Policy (17:28) - The Tides of Injustice (23:54) - The Preemptive Pull-back (29:14) - Call to Action