“Race and Gender Bias As An Example of Unfaithful Chain of Thought in the Wild” by Adam Karvonen, Sam Marks episode artwork

EPISODE · Jul 3, 2025 · 7 MIN

“Race and Gender Bias As An Example of Unfaithful Chain of Thought in the Wild” by Adam Karvonen, Sam Marks

from LessWrong (Curated & Popular)

Summary: We found that LLMs exhibit significant race and gender bias in realistic hiring scenarios, but their chain-of-thought reasoning shows zero evidence of this bias. This serves as a nice example of a 100% unfaithful CoT "in the wild" where the LLM strongly suppresses the unfaithful behavior. We also find that interpretability-based interventions succeeded while prompting failed, suggesting this may be an example of interpretability being the best practical tool for a real world problem.For context on our paper, the tweet thread is here and the paper is here.Context: Chain of Thought Faithfulness Chain of Thought (CoT) monitoring has emerged as a popular research area in AI safety. The idea is simple - have the AIs reason in English text when solving a problem, and monitor the reasoning for misaligned behavior. For example, OpenAI recently published a paper on using CoT monitoring to detect reward hacking during [...] ---Outline:(00:49) Context: Chain of Thought Faithfulness(02:26) Our Results(04:06) Interpretability as a Practical Tool for Real-World Debiasing(06:10) Discussion and Related Work--- First published: July 2nd, 2025 Source: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/me7wFrkEtMbkzXGJt/race-and-gender-bias-as-an-example-of-unfaithful-chain-of --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Jul 3, 2025

Embed this episode

Summary: We found that LLMs exhibit significant race and gender bias in realistic hiring scenarios, but their chain-of-thought reasoning shows zero evidence of this bias. This serves as a nice example of a 100% unfaithful CoT "in the wild" where the LLM strongly suppresses the unfaithful behavior. We also find that interpretability-based interventions succeeded while prompting failed, suggesting this may be an example of interpretability being the best practical tool for a real world problem....

Distinct summary based on available episode metadata or transcript content.

Ready to play

“Race and Gender Bias As An Example of Unfaithful Chain of Thought in the Wild” by Adam Karvonen, Sam Marks

0:00 7:56

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of LessWrong (Curated & Popular)?

This episode is 7 minutes long.

When was this LessWrong (Curated & Popular) episode published?

This episode was published on July 3, 2025.

Can I download this LessWrong (Curated & Popular) episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!