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Rachael Clinton Chen (Part 2): Harmers and Healers

Episode 21 of the The "Surviving Saturday" Podcast podcast, hosted by Chris, titled "Rachael Clinton Chen (Part 2): Harmers and Healers" was published on July 30, 2025 and runs 29 minutes.

July 30, 2025 ·29m · The "Surviving Saturday" Podcast

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As our lives grow more complex, so does our faith. The black-and-white answers we once held tightly often lose their grip when we find ourselves sitting beside hospital beds, walking through grief, or holding space for the pain of others. In this second half of our conversation with Rachel Clinton Chen, we talk about what it means to grow a faith that's big enough to hold suffering — our own and others'. If you've ever felt shaken by disillusionment, unsure how to trust again, or wondered what love really looks like when power has been misused — this episode offers story, clarity, and hope. Healing doesn't always come through having the right answers. Sometimes, it begins with letting go of certainty and choosing to stay curious about who God really is. Connect with Rachael: @rachaelclintonchen [https://www.instagram.com/rachaelclintonchen/] theallendercenter.org [https://theallendercenter.org/author/clintonr/] Learn more about Nurture Counseling: @nurturecounselingnc [https://www.instagram.com/nurturecounselingnc/] nurturecounseling.net [https://www.nurturecounseling.net/#home]

As our lives grow more complex, so does our faith. The black-and-white answers we once held tightly often lose their grip when we find ourselves sitting beside hospital beds, walking through grief, or holding space for the pain of others.

In this second half of our conversation with Rachel Clinton Chen, we talk about what it means to grow a faith that’s big enough to hold suffering — our own and others’.

If you’ve ever felt shaken by disillusionment, unsure how to trust again, or wondered what love really looks like when power has been misused — this episode offers story, clarity, and hope. Healing doesn’t always come through having the right answers. Sometimes, it begins with letting go of certainty and choosing to stay curious about who God really is.

Connect with Rachael:
@rachaelclintonchen
theallendercenter.org

Learn more about Nurture Counseling:
@nurturecounselingnc
nurturecounseling.net

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