Radio 3CR interview: 'All you need is a post hole digger and an Allen key and you can tap into the world's cheapest and cleanest energy' - Smart Energy Council CEO John Grimes on 3CR

An exasperated John Grimes (pictured) suggests during an interview with Vivien Langford on Community Radio's 3CR that post hole digger and an Allen key will allow us to access the world's cheapest and cleanest energy. John, the Climate Energy Council's CEO, was talking with Vivien about the inadequacies of the media when covering the climate crisis and its failure to address the issues of real concern to many Australians. It was during the interview that Vivien mentioned Saul Griffith and his book, "The BIg Switch". Enjoy "Music for a Warming World".