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EPISODE · Aug 25, 2026 · 1H

Raising Mixed Race Kids Who Don't Have to Choose with Dr. Jennifer Noble

from That Twin Mama Podcast · host Lauren Berty

Raising mixed race kids means handing them language nobody ever handed you. Lauren was raised on the rule that if you're a little bit Black, you're all Black. It was pride and it was survival. But her three kids are mixed, her twins look nothing alike, and the binary she inherited doesn't stretch to fit them.She was five or six the first time a kid made her race a punchline. On the school bus, in front of everyone, a boy asked whether she was Black because she'd rubbed poop on her face. She laughed along, went home, closed her bedroom door, and never told a single person. Not her babysitter. Not her mother, who is hearing this story for the first time on this episode.Her family talked about race constantly. That wasn't the gap. The gap was that it always came as a comparison, one side up and one side down. And her kids are literally both.Dr. Jennifer Noble is a licensed psychologist and the founder of Free To Be Collective, an organization dedicated to helping interracial couples and non-traditional families raise mixed race children with a secure, confident identity. She works specifically with mixed race teens and their parents, and she knows this territory personally as well as clinically, because she's mixed race herself.Dr. Jenn tells Lauren what's missing from identifying her kids as solely black and what happens the afternoon a classmate says "but I saw your white dad drop you off."YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT• What "monoracial parent" means, and why naming yourself is the first step toward closing the gap • Why saying "mixed race" out loud matters more than any speech you're planning • Adding "and mixed" without subtracting an ounce of Black pride • Phenotype, white presenting kids, and why siblings in the same house move through the world differently • How early to start, and how to talk to a five-year-old about race without dropping the whole history on them • How to turn a stranger's double take at the restaurant into your kid's lesson • The family drawing where Lauren's daughter gave her dad an X, and what Dr. Jenn says to do before you react • "That's your white side" jokes, and the question that tells you whether they're coming from connection or ignorance • Why racial identity resurfaces hard at fourteen, and why teenagers rebel against it the same way they rebel against church • The thing Dr. Jenn stops the conversation to correct at the very endTAKEAWAYSName it to close it. If you're monoracial, say so, out loud, to yourself first. You could walk into either grandmother's house and know the rules. Your child cannot.Add, don't replace. "You're Black" grounds a kid. "You're Black and mixed" grounds them and arms them for the day someone tries to disqualify them.Your discomfort is the assignment. Feeling like an outsider in a room is a small taste of what your child navigates constantly.MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE"Chocolate Me" by Taye Diggs https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250068010/?coliid=I39N3HPSJ4NNP0&colid=PWBSW17T2J62&psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_lstpd_FVHVKNAKAE6F5A66XKR2Dr. Jenn's book list, 30+ Books You Need for Your Mixed Race Kid: https://freetobe.myflodesk.com/booklist30Chicago Non-profit for Hair Lessons https://styles4kidz.org/joinWITH THANKSCold open footage featured with permission from @dennyelizabethwalker.FIND DR. JENNIFER NOBLEInstagram: instagram.com/drjennpsych Website: FreeToBeCollective.com If this one landed, send it to the person you thought of while you were listening. A rating and a review puts this episode in front of the parents searching for exactly this and finding nothing good.Stay Connected:Podcast Website: www.thattwinmama.comFollow on Instagram: @thattwinmamapodcastEpisode Credits:Production: Berty ProductionsEditing: Nomadic OrcaPhoto: Birch ThomasDesign: Erin Fox CreativeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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